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Dr Bluntman
Automata Labs
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:14:00 -
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I introduced several friends to EVE Online. They loved it at first. They loved it up until they realized the game doesn't spoonfeed you things to do, and then they all ended up going back to WoW for those flying mounts and to repeat the same exact dungeon instances over and over again.
Pretty sad. I need friends that know how to HTFU.
How the hell do you get people to play this game and stick with it? Not being elitist, but this game seems to only appeal to people who enjoy carving their own path.
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4441
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:15:00 -
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You try smarter friends. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4208
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:15:00 -
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Dr Bluntman wrote:I introduced several friends to EVE Online. They loved it at first. They loved it up until they realized the game doesn't spoonfeed you things to do, and then they all ended up going back to WoW for those flying mounts and to repeat the same exact dungeon instances over and over again.
Pretty sad. I need friends that know how to HTFU.
How the hell do you get people to play this game and stick with it? Not being elitist, but this game seems to only appeal to people who enjoy carving their own path.
Yes, exactly....what's the problem again?
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Journies End
269
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:17:00 -
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Who you have for friends says a lot about you too you know. Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak.
http://tinyurl.com/YarrFace |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4277
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:18:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dr Bluntman wrote:I introduced several friends to EVE Online. They loved it at first. They loved it up until they realized the game doesn't spoonfeed you things to do, and then they all ended up going back to WoW for those flying mounts and to repeat the same exact dungeon instances over and over again.
Pretty sad. I need friends that know how to HTFU.
How the hell do you get people to play this game and stick with it? Not being elitist, but this game seems to only appeal to people who enjoy carving their own path.
Yes, exactly....what's the problem again? Well, apparently this is somehow an 'Eve is dying' thread. |
Dr Bluntman
Automata Labs
9
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:19:00 -
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Not an EVE Is dying thread at all. Reading comprehension people! |
Paranoid Loyd
1531
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:25:00 -
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Have them try Sativa instead of Indica "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4209
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:26:00 -
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Dr Bluntman wrote:Not an EVE Is dying thread at all. Reading comprehension people! I got it don't worry, Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and the weak willied. Don't take it to hard (lol).
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Oliver Delorean
Dark Fenix Rising The Volition Cult
1
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:27:00 -
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I know what u mean, I also don't understand people who play WoW, but people like different games, different beer, different everything...
Best solution is: Find some friends in the game!
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Raviel Oxidans
Numeri Praetoria
1
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:28:00 -
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My friends barely play candy crush and all that crap, at least my brother plays Eve when i introduced him into the game.
I got into this game because the pvp, maybe you should look for people with interests focused into the diferent aspects of this game. |
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
914
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:33:00 -
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Remind them that they havent had any new raids in nearly a year now. |
Metalcali
17
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:35:00 -
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Mine left due to the skill training and combat not being as simple. They comment how they hate that skills take months to train or how you can't get kills without blobbing people. There is one that loves to complain saying you will never kill another player who has X amount of sp because they will be better than you from the start. When it comes to enjoying EVE, I'm sadly alone in that no other friends play, corp wise I'm quite happy. |
De'Veldrin
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
2941
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:37:00 -
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Tell them we have purple gear too, and if they work really hard, once they have it, they will be able to do the end game content against the Goons. De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7764
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:42:00 -
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Dr Bluntman wrote:I introduced several friends to EVE Online. They loved it at first. They loved it up until they realized the game doesn't spoonfeed you things to do, and then they all ended up going back to WoW for those flying mounts and to repeat the same exact dungeon instances over and over again.
Pretty sad. I need friends that know how to HTFU.
How the hell do you get people to play this game and stick with it? Not being elitist, but this game seems to only appeal to people who enjoy carving their own path.
The bolded sentence is two things:
#1. The Truth
#2. The reason why you need better friends
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4277
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:44:00 -
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Dr Bluntman wrote:Not an EVE Is dying thread at all. Reading comprehension people! Reminds me... We need a sarcasm emoticon. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4211
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:53:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:Dr Bluntman wrote:Not an EVE Is dying thread at all. Reading comprehension people! Reminds me... We need a sarcasm emoticon. We need a sarcasm font in all honesty. =][= |
Xercodo
Vector Galactic The Big Dirty
3738
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Posted - 2014.08.25 18:15:00 -
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I say simply give them the lore and then point them in a direction relevant to their interests.
Also having a proper teacher to help them learn stuff helps keep it from being too overwhelming. The Drake is a Lie |
Charax Bouclier
Emerald Drama Theatrics
8
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Posted - 2014.08.25 18:20:00 -
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Honestly, I like that EVE doesn't appeal to the general sludge. OK, so I won't be playing with most of my WoW internet friends anymore. Oh well. I'm sure there are a bunch of fine people to meet here.
As a new player, I am happy to set my modest goals for myself as opposed to worrying about where the eight year vets are at. Maybe I am not maximizing my ISK/hour or fitting my ships perfectly at the get go. Who cares. It's fun to gradually get more knowledgable and better at something.
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Jur Tissant
Unreal Darkness
187
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Posted - 2014.08.25 18:20:00 -
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Dr Bluntman wrote: then they all ended up going back to WoW for those flying mounts and to repeat the same exact dungeon instances over and over again.
The (not so) small set of instances which WoW players run every day beats EVE's boring mission grind hands-down. WoW PVE is a mile ahead of EVE's.
This is a sandbox game. There's nothing wrong with wanting a game with more direction or a clearer path of progression. There's nothing wrong with not liking a game and it certainly doesn't make you "stupid". |
Spurty
V0LTA Triumvirate.
1383
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Posted - 2014.08.25 18:24:00 -
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You're in the correct place to upgrade your friends.
"Birds of a feather, flock together"
or just "Wallys of this World, Play Warcraft in that World" *signature is not allowed on the EVE Online forums* |
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1037
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Posted - 2014.08.25 18:25:00 -
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Dr Bluntman wrote:They loved it up until they realized the game doesn't spoonfeed you things to do, and then they all ended up going back to WoW for those flying mounts and to repeat the same exact dungeon instances over and over again.
Pretty sad. I need friends that know how to HTFU. Maybe you need to realise that not everyone wants the same things out of games? [witty image] - Stream |
Miomeifeng Alduin
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.08.25 18:26:00 -
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Jur Tissant wrote:Dr Bluntman wrote: then they all ended up going back to WoW for those flying mounts and to repeat the same exact dungeon instances over and over again.
The (not so) small set of instances which WoW players run every day beats EVE's boring mission grind hands-down. WoW PVE is a mile ahead of EVE's. This is a sandbox game. There's nothing wrong with wanting a game with more direction or a clearer path of progression. There's nothing wrong with not liking a game and it certainly doesn't make you "stupid".
This can't be emphasised enough. Just because someone has a different idea for a hobby, doesn't make them stupid or lazy or anything like that. It's a game, a hobby, which you use to relax. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7769
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Posted - 2014.08.25 18:27:00 -
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Jur Tissant wrote:Dr Bluntman wrote: then they all ended up going back to WoW for those flying mounts and to repeat the same exact dungeon instances over and over again.
The (not so) small set of instances which WoW players run every day beats EVE's boring mission grind hands-down. WoW PVE is a mile ahead of EVE's. This is a sandbox game. There's nothing wrong with wanting a game with more direction or a clearer path of progression. There's nothing wrong with not liking a game and it certainly doesn't make you "stupid".
It does if you keep paying for something that doesn't have what you like.
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Pix Severus
Mew Age Outpaws
1298
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Posted - 2014.08.25 18:29:00 -
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If they can't play without being spoonfed, you either have to let them go or spoonfeed them yourself.
If you had a clear goal in mind for what you wanted to achieve with your corp and if you gave your friends specific tasks you wanted them to complete over days/weeks/months, you'd probably still be playing with them. My lord. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
7947
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Posted - 2014.08.25 18:33:00 -
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Gee, I wonder if these people know what their "friend" thinks about them..
~ we're flying high, we're watching the world pass us by ~
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Paranoid Loyd
1534
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Posted - 2014.08.25 18:37:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote: Gee, I wonder if these people know what their "friend" thinks about them..
Forest Gump wrote: Stupid is as stupid does
I have plenty of people I consider friends that are stupid (They earn this designation by constantly doing stupid things) but that doesn't mean they are not my friends. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Yarda Black
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
382
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Posted - 2014.08.25 18:38:00 -
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Didn't want those friends anyway
We are all you need |
BoBoZoBo
Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team
461
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Posted - 2014.08.25 18:51:00 -
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Nothing elitist about it. Just different gameplay desires.
I have a lot of smart gamer friends who could "handle" EVE, they just don't feel like "handling" a game. EVE does have to be managed to a larger degree than most games and some perfectly capable people just do not feel like doing with their limited game time.
Someone here on the forums one called EVE not just a game, but a hobby, I think that is a pretty accurate way to view EVE in many regards. It is a good way to explain the game to people, and a good way to understand why some do not want to devote time to it.
With that being said... yes, it does require a certain level of... ability. Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
657
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Posted - 2014.08.25 18:55:00 -
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Jur Tissant wrote:Dr Bluntman wrote: then they all ended up going back to WoW for those flying mounts and to repeat the same exact dungeon instances over and over again.
The (not so) small set of instances which WoW players run every day beats EVE's boring mission grind hands-down. WoW PVE is a mile ahead of EVE's.
But in EVE someone can aggress you in that warm feel good PVE bubble at any time. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5360
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Posted - 2014.08.25 18:57:00 -
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I wonder if the ratio of autistic to neurotypical gamers could be matched up to people who play Eve and those who "went back" to WoW?
The spectrum has a wide range though, and I would even wonder if say someone who only scores high 20s on the Aspergers test (not as typical as your average sponge you find in a sports bar) is a casual gamer compared to a total 50 score player who min-maxes 10 hours a day and goes into explosive frothing rage if they are disturbed.
Yeah I know these would be hard questions about the player base, and fraught with potential for trolling and such, but I seriously wonder this as often the "kind of player" we deal with often is a subject on these forums. In a solipsistic manner we tend to think that everything we are after in the game personally is the same thing that everybody else is after but in practice the results are not what we expect. Surely there's a conflict between those who think "PVP game means blow sh!t up" versus those who go total blogarrhea mode if some module gets nerfed and their stats/ISK drop one percent.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
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