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Meesoohorny
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Posted - 2006.07.25 15:09:00 -
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Prob a newb question but how come next to 0 of the setups for pvp involve stabs?
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 15:12:00 -
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Ship setups are generally more suited to surviving than running away. But if you think you will be up against a blob of people, you can put some wcs in there if you want. It will make you do less damage/tanking, but thats the price you pay.
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2006.07.25 15:17:00 -
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WCS in combat setups are for wimps. Posting a setup with them is like publicly stating 'I am a wimp' and so you don't see too many. :D
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wierchas noobhunter
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 15:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Leandro Salazar
WCS in combat setups are for wimps. Posting a setup with them is like publicly stating 'I am a wimp' and so you don't see too many. :D
not realy
atm wcs is only way to pvp solo 
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 15:20:00 -
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I normally use between 3-5 WCS and I am proud of it. 
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Kilael Jaase
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2006.07.25 15:20:00 -
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Edited by: Kilael Jaase on 25/07/2006 15:20:35
They aren't necessarily for wimps, but the fact is; if you have one on your ship, you will need it. You will need it because you're forsaking one (or more) of your lows for a WCS, instead of tanking / damage boosting / speed, etc...
That's why you don't see any from experienced PVP'ers.
If you're new to the whole PVP thing, you might want to put one (or more) on your ship, just to get the feel of combat against another human, but don't expect to win any combat unless you're against a newbie.
Edited for spelling.
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Deja Thoris
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2006.07.25 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
Originally by: Leandro Salazar
WCS in combat setups are for wimps. Posting a setup with them is like publicly stating 'I am a wimp' and so you don't see too many. :D
not realy
atm wcs is only way to pvp solo if you suck
Edited your post for accuracy.
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Sunetra
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Posted - 2006.07.25 15:36:00 -
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People keep bringing this us, that if you use WCS then you must suck. This doesn't strike me as logicial. Surely if you PVP with WCS fitted instead of tank or more damage then you must be better than the people your killing. Logically anyone who gets killed by a pilot using WCS must be much worse than them because the WCS using pilot was effectivly fighting with a less than optimal setup.
Personally I'm not a good enough pilot to field fully effective ships whilst sacrificing my lowslots to fit WCS. It strikes me that everyone bemoaning WCS must not be good enough to either use the tactic or counter it and hence see it as unfair.
Sunetra
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wierchas noobhunter
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
Originally by: Leandro Salazar
WCS in combat setups are for wimps. Posting a setup with them is like publicly stating 'I am a wimp' and so you don't see too many. :D
not realy
atm wcs is only way to pvp solo if you suck
Edited your post for accuracy.
plz dont edit me 
iam right
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Sunetra
People keep bringing this us, that if you use WCS then you must suck. This doesn't strike me as logicial. Surely if you PVP with WCS fitted instead of tank or more damage then you must be better than the people your killing. Logically anyone who gets killed by a pilot using WCS must be much worse than them because the WCS using pilot was effectivly fighting with a less than optimal setup.
Personally I'm not a good enough pilot to field fully effective ships whilst sacrificing my lowslots to fit WCS. It strikes me that everyone bemoaning WCS must not be good enough to either use the tactic or counter it and hence see it as unfair.
Sunetra
It isnt only about skills. Ships like Moa can hardly fit anything useful except 2-3 WCS in lows. I see no reason to tank with 4 slots and cant really snipe with T1 guns.
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Sarmaul
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.07.25 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Meesoohorny
Prob a newb question but how come next to 0 of the setups for pvp involve stabs?
1) Because when you post a setup that involves stabs, the entire thread turns into a massive flame war which tends to expand into all the other currently active threads
2) The Shame, Oh The Shame!
3) They are getting nerfed soon
4) Because any setup can be modified to use stabs (generally less damage mods, more stabs or less tank, more stabs)
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Deja Thoris
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2006.07.25 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Sunetra
People keep bringing this us, that if you use WCS then you must suck. This doesn't strike me as logicial. Surely if you PVP with WCS fitted instead of tank or more damage then you must be better than the people your killing. Logically anyone who gets killed by a pilot using WCS must be much worse than them because the WCS using pilot was effectivly fighting with a less than optimal setup.
Personally I'm not a good enough pilot to field fully effective ships whilst sacrificing my lowslots to fit WCS. It strikes me that everyone bemoaning WCS must not be good enough to either use the tactic or counter it and hence see it as unfair.
Sunetra
I think you are missing my point. All things being equal the stab ***** will engage and then run away when he gets his arse kicked. No stabs and he has to face the consequences of his actions. It's a mindset thing. The dev's are addressing it anyway
It's the old catch 22. "Waa, you never engage me solo and always blob me!!".
Well it happens because they pack low slots full of stabs. It takes a mini blob to hold em still. It's a vicious circle.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Well it happens because they pack low slots full of stabs. It takes a mini blob to hold em still. It's a vicious circle.
World of WCS. 
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Sarmaul
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.07.25 15:49:00 -
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Actually, it takes 1 Interdictor 
In 0.0 anyway...
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wierchas noobhunter
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Sunetra
People keep bringing this us, that if you use WCS then you must suck. This doesn't strike me as logicial. Surely if you PVP with WCS fitted instead of tank or more damage then you must be better than the people your killing. Logically anyone who gets killed by a pilot using WCS must be much worse than them because the WCS using pilot was effectivly fighting with a less than optimal setup.
Personally I'm not a good enough pilot to field fully effective ships whilst sacrificing my lowslots to fit WCS. It strikes me that everyone bemoaning WCS must not be good enough to either use the tactic or counter it and hence see it as unfair.
Sunetra
I think you are missing my point. All things being equal the stab ***** will engage and then run away when he gets his arse kicked. No stabs and he has to face the consequences of his actions. It's a mindset thing. The dev's are addressing it anyway
It's the old catch 22. "Waa, you never engage me solo and always blob me!!".
Well it happens because they pack low slots full of stabs. It takes a mini blob to hold em still. It's a vicious circle.
yeah it is and tbh last time i find myslef triing to atack someone alone, **** load of his friends jumped and owned me 
so atm i only blob or if i ever try to fly in real pvp solo
i think i gona use wcs ..... ( yeah i know )
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wargallow
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Posted - 2006.07.25 17:32:00 -
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To WCS or to not WCS.
It's almost like the whole ECM thing.
I never fitted WCS, then I got ganged 11 vs 1 and I lost my ship.
I had ECM but couldn't jam the scrambling ships fast enough. 1 - 3 of them.
Now I've replaced my ship and I have 2 x WCS fitted. I sacrificed lock-on range and power, caps & shield for it.
I don't think that's being a wimp. It's just part of the game. Gonna take more to scramble me now, same way my ship doesn't have the long range and sensor strenght like before.
And remember winning a fight isn't about destroying the other ship per say.
Suppose I attacked a ship and started to take a beating, and then I warp away. The other guy has won and I've lost.
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Ismern
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.25 18:28:00 -
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Generally fitting WCS is a bad idea in PvP unless you plan on being blobbed.
This is why every random ganker that enters our space tends to have many WCS fitted because they know it's the only way they can survive past one gank.
I'm looking forward to seeing them get nerfed so that I can actually get some combat action as opposed to just watching guys run away scared anytime more than one ship enters the area.
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