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Sentamon
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Posted - 2014.08.28 02:59:00 -
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Hopefully they completely ruin drones again so everyone can resume bitching about ECM being too powerful .. after it's counter has been wrecked completely. 
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Sentamon
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Posted - 2014.08.28 03:07:00 -
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Phaade wrote:
If it was such an effective counter, why don't people do it? Probably because by the time I get through even half the drone bay, I am dead. Competent drone users laugh at you when you try to kill their drones.
Out of curiosity, do those drones cost more then your ship?
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.28 08:06:00 -
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https://zkillboard.com/
Ishtar isn't even top ship. Yeah it's good but nowhere near out of control.
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.28 22:49:00 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:Sentamon wrote:https://zkillboard.com/
Ishtar isn't even top ship. Yeah it's good but nowhere near out of control.
Top Ships 1.Crow 8,090 2.Sabre 7,177 3.Ishtar 5,626 4.Stiletto 5,597 5.Proteus 4,915 6.Loki 4,764 7.Malediction 4,569 You are trolling right? If not read about interceptors , missile one especially. Then check what is sabre , when and where people are using it. Do not forget about Tech 3 cruisers This illustrates perfectly why sentry drones are bad.
My point is the complainers are making it seem like everyone is using an Ishtar. Facts don't back your claims at all.
If CCP gives and you destroy the Ishtar you'll just move on and ***** about some other ship that you can't handle.
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.28 22:55:00 -
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Icarus Able wrote:
DId you just argue that its not OP because you can run away from it? Cant tell if trolling or an idiot.
Why? Is any maneuver besides warping on top of a target, web/scram, and applying massive close range damage too complicated for you?
The only unbalanced ships are the ones that can perform the stunt outlined above.
The ships that drops drones and burns away is no threat unless you're blind.
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.28 23:08:00 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:There is very simple fix for sentry drones :
New sentry drone tracking speed = Current sentry drone tracking speed /2 (or even by 3)
Why?
Sentry drone will be less viable as their tracking against any small signature target will be very bad.
You're proposing nerfing the #4 most common PvP ship (using kil/loss mails as metric) to make #1, #2, and #3 more powerful.
Why exactly?
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.29 01:40:00 -
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Alcorak wrote:w3ak3stl1nk wrote:Raven fleets can't take them out from range with the high sig shield tanking? Never tried it, just wondering... Ravens: missile damage is based on sig radius and speed of the target. Due to the speed of ishtars and reduces sig penalty, no, ravens can't deal sufficient damage. T2 precisions at max skills w/ 3BCS will deal ~1300 BASE dmg per volley (204dps). 277dps with precision rapid heavies. (assuming ishtar w/ mwd and 1 nano). Also, ishtars can drop sentries that would match the ravens' range w/ rapid heavies. Cruise missiles arent effective from range b/c it takes 10+seconds for volleys to reach the targets - long enough to warp away once you see yourself redboxed and then come back, at which point 2 volleys have been wasted on a target that isnt there.
It's more then ironic that an Ishtar warping out of danger is a viable strategy but other ships warping out of danger from Ishtars isn't.
Ships warping around is a huge achilees heal for Ishtars.
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.29 01:42:00 -
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Alcorak wrote:Zan Shiro wrote:[quote=Sentamon] FC going aww man...I know you can fly falcon and we need them because of Ishtar...can you run that instead.
Falcons don't counter ishtars because of assist, and because drones keep shooting as long as the falcon gets locked at all.
No but Ishtars counter ECM ships that can ruin pretty much everyone else. For this reason alone nerfing the Ishtar furhter would be a terrible idea.
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Sentamon
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Posted - 2014.08.29 19:01:00 -
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Maybe the one trick MWD jockeys in the crazy amount of frigates all over the place need to learn how to fly their ships instead of suggesting nerfs to everyone else.
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