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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
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Posted - 2014.08.27 20:42:00 -
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CCP said they couldn't promise another medal after the last time. But they never said they wouldn't give one.
Gallente should get another medal but no high five.
If the caldari take a system and gallente immediately snatch it back they should get the high five.
And if that keeps happening where caldari takes one system and gallente take it back they should get a high five each time.
Who should be on the receiving end of these high fives?
I think ccp fozzie but if he is too busy, then I say they should all get a high five from Ankhesentapemkah.
Because awesome! Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
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Posted - 2014.08.28 19:28:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:staryed wrote:Just another "retired" QCAT here i cant help but notice all the butt hurt being aimed at us on a few of these threads. I guess after half a decade of FW. Years of dominating black rise. Having previously captured all the systems and reaching #2 on battleclinic. Now that we are putting FW in the rear view all of a sudden " GalMil will be better off without us" which is a bit disrespectful but then again, I don't have anything ill to say about anyone cause unlike most people on these threads i don't take myself to seriously, but good luck to Gal Mil hope you get your medal.. we sure did not. Maybe you missed the 'galmil leadership are a bunch of polesmokers' post? ...
Are you denying the allegation?
Is it even disputed? Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
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Posted - 2014.09.06 18:57:00 -
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Tinu Moorhsum wrote:Jo TwoTimes wrote:What Galmil did by conquering the whole WarZone is impressive, and it should be recognized by CPP
Can someone enlighten me? I know nothing at all about faction warfare but I have the impression that it's a hybrid form of PVP and PVE where you can "win" a war or a system essentially by ratting. Is that right? T-
Pretty much. You enter a deadspace complex and wait for a timer to run. If the timer runs then you gain 20 vp for your side/ally. Once the non-occupying force has @ a net 3000 vp in a system it becomes vulnerable. And it can then be flipped to the other side by busting a bunker, before the defending side captures plexes to bring it non vulnerable.
People can fight for plexes but you won't know where they are running plexes until you enter the system. When you enter the plex the plexer - much like ratters - will just warp off and do more ratting/ plexing a system or two over.
edit: And yes Gallente should get a medal for their accomplishment. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
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Posted - 2014.09.17 17:43:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:I for one got 900 'ratter' kills last month. Amazing since they all warped away. Right cearain you clueless ******* *****? That's only 30 kills a day - slacker. In Eve you should be on a kill every 3 minutes, so if you play for two hours that should be 40 kills a day.
Play for 2 hours a day? If you look at his killboard in August you will see that doesn't apply to him- not by a long shot.
There are several other problems with just counting the number of overall kills one player gets in a single month and concluding that plexing mostly involves pvp. That is obvious to most people, so I will just state that point and leave it at that. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
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Posted - 2014.09.18 15:36:00 -
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Someone: It seems this is a hybrid form of pve where you can win a system by essentially ratting.
Cearain: Pretty much.
Crosi and XG: Look at my awesome killboard! I am sooo seeexy, its much better than Cearain's killboard so only my opinion should matter, and not his!
Sorry if I don't keep responding to you two but I have had my fill.
Back on topic: As far as medals I think CCP should officially add them to the game. They could then give clear conditions of when a medal can be awarded. So for example if Gallente let Caldari take one system and then just took it back they shouldn't get a third medal - I think we would agree. But players should be able to get multiple medals. The conditions should be thought out and added.
The militia medals they get should show up on the miltia uniforms they sell in the lp store.
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
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Posted - 2014.09.18 18:14:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Cearain wrote:Crosi and XG: Look at CROSI'S killboard! HE IS sooo seeexy, its much better than Cearain's killboard PERIOD. Fixed. Seriously, why would you take advice from somebody (Cearain) who is not successful at something (getting pvp out of FW), when you could take advice from somebody who is (Crosi)?
Yeah of course "getting pvp out of faction war" whatever you might mean by that, has a dubious connection with occupancy, and medals. Anyone can look at the top vp gainers for a day and see how much pvp they get that day.
Perhaps we should look at the killboard of your alt for the time period when he closed over 100 plexes in 2 weeks.
Anyone who wants actual data instead of bad logic can look up these guys and see how they did yesterday, (9/17/14) as they were the top vp gainers that day:
1)DARK68
2)Jl0PD CAYPOH
3)Mikle Student
Edit: I just want to get in before we hear the tortured reasoning that vp has nothing to do with occupancy. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
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Posted - 2014.09.18 22:35:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Cearain wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Cearain wrote:Crosi and XG: Look at CROSI'S killboard! HE IS sooo seeexy, its much better than Cearain's killboard PERIOD. Fixed. Seriously, why would you take advice from somebody (Cearain) who is not successful at something (getting pvp out of FW), when you could take advice from somebody who is (Crosi)? Yeah of course "getting pvp out of faction war" whatever you might mean by that, has a dubious connection with occupancy, and medals. Anyone can look at the top vp gainers for a day and see how much pvp they get that day. Perhaps we should look at the killboard of your alt for the time period when he closed over 100 plexes in 2 weeks. Anyone who wants actual data instead of bad logic can look up these guys and see how they did yesterday, (9/17/14) as they were the top vp gainers that day: 1)DARK68 2)Jl0PD CAYPOH 3)Mikle Student Edit: I just want to get in before we hear the tortured reasoning that vp has nothing to do with occupancy. I mean pvp fighting for occupancy - like Crosi does.
Occupancy has to do with vp. Crosi could get all those kills and nothing would necessarily change regarding occupancy. He could get that many kills and not even be in a militia.
X Gallentius wrote:
Hey look, if you don't want pvp and you don't want to fight for occupancy then by all means keep whining nonstop. Go somewhere that you can farm to your heart's content and let the professionals like us take the warzone through pvp.
What I am saying are just the facts. It is the rules of the game and the facts regarding who is actually capturing the most plexes for their militia. If you think my posting these facts is whining, that is your problem.
As far as winning through pvp. There was some pvp, no doubt. But as you admit your alt captured more plexes than your main. Do you want to post your alts name so we can see his killboard for that time? The people I posted were the players that captured the most plexes for their militias on September 17th 2014. So yeah any reasonable person can look at their killboards for that day and decide for themselves how much pvp is involved in the occupancy war. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
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Posted - 2014.09.18 23:35:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Cearain wrote:X Gallentius wrote:
I mean pvp fighting for occupancy - like Crosi does.
Occupancy has to do with vp. Crosi could get all those kills and nothing would necessarily change regarding occupancy. He could get that many kills and not even be in a militia. X Gallentius wrote:
Hey look, if you don't want pvp and you don't want to fight for occupancy then by all means keep whining nonstop. Go somewhere that you can farm to your heart's content and let the professionals like us take the warzone through pvp.
What I am saying are just the facts. It is the rules of the game and the facts regarding who is actually capturing the most plexes for their militia. If you think my posting these facts is whining, that is your problem. As far as winning through pvp. There was some pvp, no doubt. But as you admit your alt captured more plexes than your main. Do you want to post your alts name so we can see his killboard for that time? The people I posted were the players that captured the most plexes for their militias on September 17th 2014. So yeah any reasonable person can look at their killboards for that day and decide for themselves how much pvp is involved in the occupancy war. I think going forward you have three choices: 1. Admit your wrong, 2. Put your Occupancy Warfare theories to the test win the Occupancy War with your alt army, or 3. Keep yammering away on the forums. Surely there must be a Caldari sponsor out there who would love to hire you as an Occupancy Warfare General (Think Hannibal of Carthage for example) who will inspire an alt army of Caldari plexers to take back the warzone and liberate Eagle Rise from those evil Gallente.
While you were busy looking up everyones killboard did you look at the killboards of those players who captured the most plexes of anyone in faction war on 9/17/14? If so what was their killboard like for that day? If I really wanted to gain the most for my militia in the occupancy that is what I, and anyone else would do. But its not fun.
It's not an issue of figuring out a strategy. It's a issue of having better things to do than trying to convince lots of people they should get alt accounts to orbit buttons day and night. Like you. I have had alts plexing and they were very effective. You have had alts plexing and they were very effective. We all know it is effective.
So why keep up the charade? Unless people are completely new to faction war they know how most plexes are captured.
But by all means keep yammering away how plexing is most effectively done as a pvp activity when all the data, even your own, contradicts that.
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
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Posted - 2014.09.20 15:52:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Cearain wrote: While you were busy looking up everyones killboard did you look at the killboards of those players who captured the most plexes of anyone in faction war on 9/17/14? If so what was their killboard like for that day? If I really wanted to gain the most for my militia in the occupancy that is what I, and anyone else would do. But its not fun.
My side was able to win FW AND get massive amounts of pvp. Sounds like we know how to play this game better than you, doesn't it?
Ok so it seems for being a "won" war your side is still losing systems. So since you had all systems on whatever date that was, your side is now losing the faction war occupancy game.
Now when Caldari was losing the occupancy war your side claimed it was due to things like lack of organization, and poor strategy even that they were not not mentally tough. Do you now think they have better organization than you and better strategy than your side? Are they now mentally tougher than you? Or does that only apply when Caldari are losing systems and not when your side is losing systems?
Or more likely:
1) You want them back in the game because other wise the rvb style pvp isn't as good. Sort of like people talking about flipping your own system before the tier system change.
or
2) Its really not all that much fun after all and everyone is sort of sick of plexing.
What do you think the reason is for the gallente losing faction war occupancy recently? Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
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Posted - 2014.09.20 21:27:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Cearain wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Cearain wrote: While you were busy looking up everyones killboard did you look at the killboards of those players who captured the most plexes of anyone in faction war on 9/17/14? If so what was their killboard like for that day? If I really wanted to gain the most for my militia in the occupancy that is what I, and anyone else would do. But its not fun.
My side was able to win FW AND get massive amounts of pvp. Sounds like we know how to play this game better than you, doesn't it? Ok so it seems for being a "won" war your side is still losing systems. So since you had all systems on whatever date that was, your side is now losing the faction war occupancy game. Now when Caldari was losing the occupancy war your side claimed it was due to things like lack of organization, and poor strategy even that they were not not mentally tough. Do you now think they have better organization than you and better strategy than your side? Are they now mentally tougher than you? Or does that only apply when Caldari are losing systems and not when your side is losing systems? Or more likely: 1) You want them back in the game because other wise the rvb style pvp isn't as good. Sort of like people talking about flipping your own system before the tier system change. or 2) It's really not all that much fun after all and everyone is sort of sick of plexing. What do you think the reason is for the gallente losing faction war occupancy recently? Can't give anybody credit can you? Can't give us credit for taking warzone. Can't give Caldari credit for putting in the effort to take some of it back. This is why you're an armchair internet spaceship General, and not an real internet spaceship General.
I just want to see if you have a double standard. Do the Caldari have better strategies, better organization and more mental toughness than your side? Or do those traits only win the occupancy war when it's your side that is winning?
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Caldari are putting more effort in, have had a surge in active organised members and are using a non focussed offensive to take systems back. This is the correct strategy for them at this time since there are so many viable targets for them. ..
This is interesting. "Non focused offensive" is the winning way. If I didn't know better that might be code for gallente not bothering to defensive plex so many random o-plexers.
Of course, they had all those targets leading up to the gallente sweep of all systems. Was Caldari leadership unaware of this tactic? Or did they just not have that many people who cared? Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
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Posted - 2014.09.20 23:13:00 -
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ALUCARD 1208 wrote:Cearain wrote:
I just want to see if you have a double standard. Do the Caldari have better strategies, better organization and more mental toughness than your side? Or do those traits only win the occupancy war when it's your side that is winning?
Of course, they had all those targets leading up to the gallente sweep of all systems. Was Caldari leadership unaware of this tactic? Or did they just not have that many people who cared?
They've had a fresh injection from pasta which has lifted squid spirits. I'm not sure if ur familiar with these guys seeing as you don't play eve and just troll a forum but these guys are more organized than ur average squid and from there null sec days are used to grind-fests. They also came in after the campaign when most gals are burnt out but you'll see as they nearer home systems the burnt gals will be refreshed and form up. ....
Why this talk of "grind fests" and being "burnt out"?
I think we may agree more than we disagree.
As for me I would never got burnt out on eve when I was getting lots of great pvp. When that was happening I couldn't wait to sign in. I would get "burnt out" when my time was spent "grinding."
I am not trying to just put faction war down, it's the best part of eve, and eve is a great game. But we shouldn't bury our heads in the sand and pretend no important changes need to happen.
BTW: Yes I am somewhat familiar with Pasta and from what I know they do approach the occupancy war in an intelligent way. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
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Posted - 2014.09.21 00:10:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Cearain wrote:I just want to see if you have a double standard. Do the Caldari have better strategies, better organization and more mental toughness than your side? Or do those traits only win the occupancy war when it's your side that is winning?
?? You're off the deep end dude. It's pretty clear that superior organization, character and dedication only apply to the Gallente. If Caldari ever take the entire warzone it will only be because they blobbed us to death. 
Yes of course your side's strength of character and the others sides lack of it won the war.
I think your off the deep end.
Your strength of numbers due to caldari amarr (and the rest of eve's for that matter) lack of interest had nothing to do with it.  Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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