What Galmil did by conquering the whole WarZone is impressive, and it should be recognized by CPP: the best thing you can do in a sandbox game is when you leave a persistent trace in the world.
Here GalMil made history, and it should reflect in the world itself : whats the point of a war if nothing changed when you won it ?
Maybe some highsec system could change hand or something...
For example the monument that CPP left after the big battle of BR-5B was a cool idea i think, if maybe a tad impersonal

Here there could be some kind of monument in space, maybe some kind of cpp backed player event, or maybe some nice gift such as a "Victory Edition" Comet, a victory edition military shirt... or something for all GalMil pilots, maybe all of the above.
They deserve it

Disclaimer: i am not part of GalMil, actually i have an alt in .. CalMil, so i have no stakes in the proposal,

CCP isn't giving out another medal for something that's already been done before. Nice try though.

Not everyone can be a neckbeard.

Where does it say that in the rules? IIRC they said we wouldnt get one last time, which is better chances than the 'may not get one' nest time.

Easy to tell who you have been hanging around with, but you arnt nearly old enough or close to good enough to be a bitter vet yet. Sad really.

Well it must be true because Crosi said it. It really is my fault I am not skilled enough to fly a Keres everywhere and damp my opponent to 0 lock range. I know that now. I don't have the skill to lock a target, orbit at 20, and activate my damps and then call for backup. It is simply too much for me to manage on my own. Thank you for the wake up call on how to be a skilled pilot, Crosi. What will I do without you?

The keys to obtaining victory in FW are a number of things but above all is the ability to neckbeard. Far too many CalMil have lives and jobs. They need to take a serious look into the mirror and ask themselves, how can I better the Militia. CalMil needs a serious batch of unemployed basement dwellers if they are to compete with GalMil.

CCP isn't giving out another medal for something that's already been done before. Nice try though.

I admire the QCats from all the things I've read about you over the years but this reply is just disappointing...

you are outright saying that, for a fact, us newbs don't deserve it (medals) since bittervets (like you) already done/achieved it.

Well they just gave out medals for caldari prime fight. So I don't see why they can't use that same code to give gallente a medal for doing nothing.

I think at this point we should get the right to rename all the FW systems in Black Rise.

Nisuwa becomes Crosiberg
Nenn becomes New Villore
Eha becomes The Hall of Justice

I admire the QCats from all the things I've read about you over the years but this reply is just disappointing...

you are outright saying that, for a fact, us newbs don't deserve it (medals) since bittervets (like you) already done/achieved it.

Just another "retired" QCAT here i cant help but notice all the butt hurt being aimed at us on a few of these threads. I guess after half a decade of FW. Years of dominating black rise. Having previously captured all the systems and reaching #2 on battleclinic. Now that we are putting FW in the rear view all of a sudden " GalMil will be better off without us" which is a bit disrespectful but then again, I don't have anything ill to say about anyone cause unlike most people on these threads i don't take myself to seriously, but good luck to Gal Mil hope you get your medal.. we sure did not.

Just another "retired" QCAT here i cant help but notice all the butt hurt being aimed at us on a few of these threads. I guess after half a decade of FW. Years of dominating black rise. Having previously captured all the systems and reaching #2 on battleclinic. Now that we are putting FW in the rear view all of a sudden " GalMil will be better off without us" which is a bit disrespectful but then again, I don't have anything ill to say about anyone cause unlike most people on these threads i don't take myself to seriously, but good luck to Gal Mil hope you get your medal.. we sure did not.

Maybe you missed the 'galmil leadership are a bunch of polesmokers' post? .

Wait, so galmil aren't getting a medal for this?

Rofl.

Maybe you missed the 'galmil leadership are a bunch of polesmokers' post? ...

Are you denying the allegation? Is it even disputed?

It shouldn't be made public!

The remaining bitterness is QCATS trying to find a reason to break up with Gallente Militia. Hence, the "Gallente Militia is bitter against us for no reason" posts and all that. It wouldn't feel right if you shot your former militia without thinking they unjustly criticized you. Apparently somebody saying the militia is filled with polesmokers doesn't really qualify as a reason.

And the rest of Militia saying "Go ahead, leave us. We don't care!" (but we really do, QCATS are a foundation of our militia)

And Crosi as well, but he's just a bitter dude. :)

Anyways, o/ and Mew!

Thread Iink?

Congratulations on being the second faction to complete a sweep of a warzone ladies and gentlemen of the the Gallente.

I honestly did not think we were going to be able to do a medal when I was investigating our options, since all the staff involved with the Caldari one left the company some time ago. However thanks to CCP Greyscale's research, CCP Eterne's writing and CCP Creber Cattus' programming we were able to get it completed.

I do want to make clear that we cannot guarantee medals for any future warzone captures for any militia. We'll do what we can time and workload permitting, but we cannot make promises about future cases at this time.

When gal mil first took the warzone CCP said they got some people and found the old code for the caldari medal to use it for the gallente medal. I don't recall CCP outright saying "no future medals" but they did say they cannot guarantee any more in the future...

I was talking about the forum about polesmoking. Thx for going the extra mile though!

Fighting for Jita actually can make Caldari militia much more motivated, IMHO...

That was actually one of the other threads where a QCAT opened the discussion with a fairly bitter sounding post, not to be confused with them doing the same thing in this thread.

When i first joined gal mil, i recall someone being banned from comms by qcats for using a gay slur. Now their ex player\ceo uses them openly on the forums in response to other people having fun. Times change.

Rageposting

lol u mad bro? XDD

crosi stop being awful

Yes I called the entirety of Gal Mil leadership a bunch of degenerate pole smoking retards. Deal with it, don't let it make you so mad, as you said we are irrelevant since we took a few months off to focus on RL and sit out this push to kill the WZ. We have members buying new homes, new cars, getting new jobs, having kids, etc. We all don't live in our mom's basement, sorry about that

Crying for help.

The ultimate evidence that you have lost an argument in EVE, and have to pretend your argument foes also have no rl

Uh oh someone is reaching. You are really bad at this trolling thing aren't you?

It's all good, you might find something at the bottom of that bottle :p

I don't think he's pretending at all!

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Thanks for the uplifting posts Nexx!

You always seem to find the right mix of positive energy and vision that is needed to help pull people up out of the depths and get them to focus on creating a better tomorrow.

I apologize for my bluntness, I'll wrap everything in unicorns and sparkles from here on out.

Ahh the way the bickering is going on, it reminds me of caldari some months ago. I also remember how well that turned out for caldari.

Gallente are turning into caldari.

Seeing as PvP is my main focus, and I'm sure a great many of you as well, it always seemed counter productive to run your enemy out of the warzone. Zerging 2 or 3 ppl in plexes with 20-30 man gangs just seems silly.

Now that you've run your enemy out of town there's nothing left to do but chest thump on the forums. Also, are people really so vain that they need a medal to say they were there ?

Congrats to the people who were driving the effort while there were fights to be had. Those people know who they are.

As for why the Gal's generally have more success in these efforts over the last few years, it has everything to do with the shared comms. They promote a closeness and collaborative effort, it makes it easier to communicate, organize and rally.

The fact that the Gals have had this in place for 4 years or longer gives them a foundation and advantage that is hard for the other faction to compete with.

Not that my corp is relevant in any manner but we left Gallente because we could see Cal were in their death throes. Generally I don't find any enjoyment in kicking someone when theyre down.

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Not everyone can be a neckbeard.

CalMil should get a medal for being in a militia with no home system.

This is a fair post on all points bar one. As a matar cop killing gallente i assume you find enjoyment kicking someone while they dont even see you on their overview? Semi-rhetorical question since we all know the answer.

I'd also wager that you've shot and will continue to shoot most Minnies you come across. I'm just on the other side of the fence now.

Sorry, I'd have responded to this sooner but I've been away for the weekend.

It's a fair point but, no different than when I was a Gal and shot Minnies indiscriminately. It's pretty much a given that Gal's shoot Minnies and vice versa, most veteran corps in FW have an NBSI towards their allied faction, so there's no hypocracy in my actions.

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[quote=Crosi Wesdo]I'd also wager that you've shot and will continue to shoot most Minnies you come across. I'm just on the other side of the fence now.

CCP said they couldn't promise another medal after the last time. But they never said they wouldn't give one.

Gallente should get another medal but no high five.

If the caldari take a system and gallente immediately snatch it back they should get the high five.

And if that keeps happening where caldari takes one system and gallente take it back they should get a high five each time.

Who should be on the receiving end of these high fives?

I think ccp fozzie but if he is too busy, then I say they should all get a high five from Ankhesentapemkah.

Because awesome!

You would lose that bet.

I fly with the assumption they are hostile and stay out of scram range, and engage if they yellow box me.

Usually only if they have a proven track record of shooting Gallente Militia.

Shooting allied militia in your own warzone = being a Minnie living in Gallente space shooting Gallente.

This should be good, did anyone let Adolf know about this line of defence?

That is quite the qualifier "Usually". I'd offer the same wager I did Crosi, screenshot your TLIB standings. Being hypocritical only some of the time doesn't make someone any less of a hypocrite.

What Galmil did by conquering the whole WarZone is impressive, and it should be recognized by CPP

Can someone enlighten me? I know nothing at all about faction warfare but I have the impression that it's a hybrid form of PVP and PVE where you can "win" a war or a system essentially by ratting.

Is that right?

T-

I for one got 900 'ratter' kills last month. Amazing since they all warped away. Right cearain you clueless ******* *****?

That's only 30 kills a day - slacker. In Eve you should be on a kill every 3 minutes, so if you play for two hours that should be 40 kills a day.

Play for 2 hours a day? If you look at his killboard in August you will see that doesn't apply to him- not by a long shot.

There are several other problems with just counting the number of overall kills one player gets in a single month and concluding that plexing mostly involves pvp. That is obvious to most people, so I will just state that point and leave it at that.

Like I said, Crosi is a slacker. The fact that he plays more than two hours a day makes it even worse! Obviously he should be at 2k kills a month at the very minimum.

This "FW pvp thing" is SO BROKEN.

Crosi and XG: Look at my CROSI'S killboard! HE IS sooo seeexy, its much better than Cearain's killboard PERIOD.

Fixed.

Seriously, why would you take advice from somebody (Cearain) who is not successful at something (getting pvp out of FW), when you could take advice from somebody who is (Crosi)?

Yeah of course "getting pvp out of faction war" whatever you might mean by that, has a dubious connection with occupancy, and medals. Anyone can look at the top vp gainers for a day and see how much pvp they get that day.

Perhaps we should look at the killboard of your alt for the time period when he closed over 100 plexes in 2 weeks.


Anyone who wants actual data instead of bad logic can look up these guys and see how they did yesterday, (9/17/14) as they were the top vp gainers that day:

1)DARK68

2)Jl0PD CAYPOH

3)Mikle Student

Edit: I just want to get in before we hear the tortured reasoning that vp has nothing to do with occupancy.

I mean pvp fighting for occupancy - like Crosi does.

Hey look, if you don't want pvp and you don't want to fight for occupancy then by all means keep whining nonstop. Go somewhere that you can farm to your heart's content and let the professionals like us take the warzone through pvp.

Occupancy has to do with vp. Crosi could get all those kills and nothing would necessarily change regarding occupancy. He could get that many kills and not even be in a militia.



What I am saying are just the facts. It is the rules of the game and the facts regarding who is actually capturing the most plexes for their militia. If you think my posting these facts is whining, that is your problem.

As far as winning through pvp. There was some pvp, no doubt. But as you admit your alt captured more plexes than your main. Do you want to post your alts name so we can see his killboard for that time? The people I posted were the players that captured the most plexes for their militias on September 17th 2014. So yeah any reasonable person can look at their killboards for that day and decide for themselves how much pvp is involved in the occupancy war.

Surely there must be a Caldari sponsor out there who would love to hire you as an Occupancy Warfare General (Think Hannibal of Carthage for example) who will inspire an alt army of Caldari plexers to take back the warzone and liberate Eagle Rise from those evil Gallente.

I think going forward you have three choices:
1. Admit your wrong,
2. Put your Occupancy Warfare theories to the test win the Occupancy War with your alt army, or
3. Keep yammering away on the forums.

Surely there must be a Caldari sponsor out there who would love to hire you as an Occupancy Warfare General (Think Hannibal of Carthage for example) who will inspire an alt army of Caldari plexers to take back the warzone and liberate Eagle Rise from those evil Gallente.

While you were busy looking up everyones killboard did you look at the killboards of those players who captured the most plexes of anyone in faction war on 9/17/14? If so what was their killboard like for that day? If I really wanted to gain the most for my militia in the occupancy that is what I, and anyone else would do. But its not fun.

Where is the medal ?

Parrently Fozzie said we dont get one because BNANA didnt win the alliance tourny. Which, clearly means, we are getting a medal as they would never have dared bring up the subject otherwise! If that was the real criteria, we would have put our best alliance in the event rather than our worst!!! Since we had important things going on at the time BNANA was really all we could spare :)

Also, cearain, you are terrible at eve, why expand on that by being a terrible troll on the forums too?

Wha...wha...WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY?!?!?!?!

Sure, having EG as our team captain didn-¦t help.
And having Zeratha doing our fittings didn-¦t help either.

But we-¦re not the worst alliance in Gallente FW! There are still these new kids on the block...Cowboy Bebop? Something like that...

I meant worst 'at the time' :p

Point taken though.

What Galmil did by conquering the whole WarZone is impressive, and it should be recognized by CPP: the best thing you can do in a sandbox game is when you leave a persistent trace in the world.

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Troll-

I got my freighter/forum alts providence ganked in low sec sec, thats how a real pvper rolls

We can only aspire to your greatness!

I'm sorry but FW is what ex- mission runners do if they want to continue shooting little red crosses and PRETEND that they are actually PVP'ing.

...

Now that I"m on the topic, I am acutally curious about faction warfare. The impression I have from the very little exposure I've had to it is that it's about plexing and seems to have a strong element of role play. Is that right?

T-

I'm the world's worst troll. -

My side was able to win FW AND get massive amounts of pvp. Sounds like we know how to play this game better than you, doesn't it?

Ok so it seems for being a "won" war your side is still losing systems. So since you had all systems on whatever date that was, your side is now losing the faction war occupancy game.

Now when Caldari was losing the occupancy war your side claimed it was due to things like lack of organization, and poor strategy even that they were not not mentally tough. Do you now think they have better organization than you and better strategy than your side? Are they now mentally tougher than you? Or does that only apply when Caldari are losing systems and not when your side is losing systems?

Or more likely:

1) You want them back in the game because other wise the rvb style pvp isn't as good. Sort of like people talking about flipping your own system before the tier system change.

or

2) It's really not all that much fun after all and everyone is sort of sick of plexing.

What do you think the reason is for the gallente losing faction war occupancy recently?

NOPE Cearain holds that honor

Ok so it seems for being a "won" war your side is still losing systems. So since you had all systems on whatever date that was, your side is now losing the faction war occupancy game.

Now when Caldari was losing the occupancy war your side claimed it was due to things like lack of organization, and poor strategy even that they were not not mentally tough. Do you now think they have better organization than you and better strategy than your side? Are they now mentally tougher than you? Or does that only apply when Caldari are losing systems and not when your side is losing systems?

Or more likely:

1) You want them back in the game because other wise the rvb style pvp isn't as good. Sort of like people talking about flipping your own system before the tier system change.

or

2) It's really not all that much fun after all and everyone is sort of sick of plexing.

What do you think the reason is for the gallente losing faction war occupancy recently?

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I have no interest in fact or what anyone is telling me, im just going to make ignorant assertions from the comfort of my station 18 jumps away.

Can't give anybody credit can you? Can't give us credit for taking warzone. Can't give Caldari credit for putting in the effort to take some of it back.

This is why you're an armchair internet spaceship General, and not an real internet spaceship General.

Caldari are putting more effort in, have had a surge in active organised members and are using a non focussed offensive to take systems back. This is the correct strategy for them at this time since there are so many viable targets for them. ..

I just want to see if you have a double standard. Do the Caldari have better strategies, better organization and more mental toughness than your side? Or do those traits only win the occupancy war when it's your side that is winning?


Of course, they had all those targets leading up to the gallente sweep of all systems. Was Caldari leadership unaware of this tactic? Or did they just not have that many people who cared?

They've had a fresh injection from pasta which has lifted squid spirits. I'm not sure if ur familiar with these guys seeing as you don't play eve and just troll a forum but these guys are more organized than ur average squid and from there null sec days are used to grind-fests.

They also came in after the campaign when most gals are burnt out but you'll see as they nearer home systems the burnt gals will be refreshed and form up.
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I just want to see if you have a double standard. Do the Caldari have better strategies, better organization and more mental toughness than your side? Or do those traits only win the occupancy war when it's your side that is winning?

?? You're off the deep end dude. It's pretty clear that superior organization, character and dedication only apply to the Gallente. If Caldari ever take the entire warzone it will only be because they blobbed us to death.

Yes of course your side's strength of character and the others sides lack of it won the war.

/thread, now can we bicker about cats vs puppies?

/thread, now can we bicker about cats vs puppies?

/thread, now can we bicker about cats vs puppies?

This is interesting. "Non focused offensive" is the winning way. If I didn't know better that might be code for gallente not bothering to defensive plex so many random o-plexers.

PUPPIES OR GTFO

Puppies.

Blasphemy. And people wonder why Quantum Cats Syndicate left Gal Mil!

http://youtu.be/QZfkRsRxxgA?t=40s

/thread, now can we bicker about cats vs puppies?

Google dog saves person vs cat saves person and you will have your answer.

edit - oops I'm posting against the party line. Please XG don't expel me

Fozzie, give me my Medal... NOW !!!