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Prince Kobol 2089	Posted - 2014.08.29 07:41:00 - [1] - Quote Atli Mar Sveinsson (aka CCP Pretorian, Creative Director of Dust 514) has resigned from CCP Yesterday was is his last day https://twitter.com/atarimar/status/505179924672827392 Another one bites the Dust (Sorry couldn't help myself )
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 6718	Posted - 2014.08.29 07:43:00 - [2] - Quote In other news, the guy whose desk was opposite mine has left my workplace. He was a workshy idlefop so he was "managed out of the business" Coincidence, or something more sinister? "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
Lothras Andastar Associated North American Lovers of Dolphins 90	Posted - 2014.08.29 07:47:00 - [3] - Quote With all the CCP staff leaving for better jobs, how long before EA buys out CCP? Because the Legacy Code has too much Psssssssssssssssh, nothing will ever get fixed until CCP stop wasting money on failed sparkle MMOs and instead rewrite the entire backend of EvE from scratch.
Sentamon Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 2154	Posted - 2014.08.29 08:10:00 - [4] - Quote Lothras Andastar wrote: With all the CCP staff leaving for better jobs, how long before EA buys out CCP? Purchase a $5 DLC pack to complete your jump to Jita. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~
Hicksimus Torgue 280	Posted - 2014.08.29 08:30:00 - [5] - Quote Sentamon wrote: Lothras Andastar wrote: With all the CCP staff leaving for better jobs, how long before EA buys out CCP? Purchase a $5 DLC pack to complete your jump to Jita. AK-47 wood grain Anshar is coming to get j00. $5 to get the teabag taunt for CQ, as an added bonus get a second nut for your Thorax. $5 to turn your Ark into a Kirov from C&C, as an added bonus get tesla coil nipple clamps for the missus. I welcome our EA overlords. Edit: You know when the Ark Kirov Edition undocks it says Kirov Reporting. Do you have it?
Prince Kobol 2090	Posted - 2014.08.29 08:30:00 - [6] - Quote Purchase a $20 DLC pack to be immune from ganks Now that would sell...
Zero Sum Gain FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM Silent Requiem 101	Posted - 2014.08.29 08:31:00 - [7] - Quote Sentamon wrote: Lothras Andastar wrote: With all the CCP staff leaving for better jobs, how long before EA buys out CCP? Purchase a $5 DLC pack to complete your jump to Jita. Purchase a $5 DLC pack or we'll hire Liam Neeson to go after YOUR daughter.
Electrique Wizard Mutually Lucrative Business Proposals Market and Contract PVP 392	Posted - 2014.08.29 08:33:00 - [8] - Quote Sentamon wrote: Lothras Andastar wrote: With all the CCP staff leaving for better jobs, how long before EA buys out CCP? Purchase a $5 DLC pack to complete your jump to Jita. 1 Week invulnerability in highsec for $15 1 Year mining permit for 10M isk Double your skillpoint gains for only $1 per day Buy the Nullsec Expansion for $20 Limited time offer: Build your own towers anywhere for only $10 per tower I am the Zodiac, I am the stars, You are the sorceress, my priestess of Mars, Queen of the night, swathed in satin black, Your ivory flesh upon my torture rack.
Prince Kobol 2093	Posted - 2014.08.29 08:47:00 - [9] - Quote I think we should stop, we are probably giving Hilmar idea's
Grimpak Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance. 2336	Posted - 2014.08.29 08:56:00 - [10] - Quote I think this guy wasn't in the list of people you should be worried if leaving. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet 6555	Posted - 2014.08.29 09:06:00 - [11] - Quote Grimpak wrote: I think this guy wasn't in the list of people you should be worried if leaving. But isn't he they guy responsible for the huge success that is DUST 514 and all the highly praised and creative new mechanics that put it a step above all the competition like... crickets
Yang Aurilen The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 382	Posted - 2014.08.29 09:36:00 - [12] - Quote Hicksimus wrote: Sentamon wrote: Lothras Andastar wrote: With all the CCP staff leaving for better jobs, how long before EA buys out CCP? Purchase a $5 DLC pack to complete your jump to Jita. AK-47 wood grain Anshar is coming to get j00. $5 to get the teabag taunt for CQ, as an added bonus get a second nut for your Thorax. $5 to turn your Ark into a Kirov from C&C, as an added bonus get tesla coil nipple clamps for the missus. I welcome our EA overlords. Edit: You know when the Ark Kirov Edition undocks it says Kirov Reporting. New Catalyst Rocketeer skin only for $1 per 3 run BPC. ONLY AVAILABLE ON THE NEW EDEN STORE!
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 4402	Posted - 2014.08.29 10:56:00 - [13] - Quote Grimpak wrote: I think this guy wasn't in the list of people you should be worried if leaving. Relevant =][=
Mithandra Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep 127	Posted - 2014.08.29 11:39:00 - [14] - Quote Prince Kobol wrote: Atli Mar Sveinsson (aka CCP Pretorian, Creative Director of Dust 514) has resigned from CCP Yesterday was is his last day https://twitter.com/atarimar/status/505179924672827392 Another one bites the Dust (Sorry couldn't help myself ) So someone working on DUST has resigned. Meh it's dust. Worry when senior programmers of eve head for the lifeboats. Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
Prince Kobol 2098	Posted - 2014.08.29 11:54:00 - [15] - Quote Mithandra wrote: Prince Kobol wrote: Atli Mar Sveinsson (aka CCP Pretorian, Creative Director of Dust 514) has resigned from CCP Yesterday was is his last day https://twitter.com/atarimar/status/505179924672827392 Another one bites the Dust (Sorry couldn't help myself ) So someone working on DUST has resigned. Meh it's dust. Worry when senior programmers of eve head for the lifeboats. CCP Soundwave - Lead Designer CCP Unifex - The man who saved Eve CCP Zulu - Np Big Loss but he was Senior Lead Producer Craig Scott Design Director (i have no idea if he has a CCP xxxx tag) and of course the odd one or two other guys who have left in the last 12 months
Amanda Orion Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance 24	Posted - 2014.08.29 13:08:00 - [16] - Quote Lothras Andastar wrote: With all the CCP staff leaving for better jobs, how long before EA buys out CCP? I was an Ultima Online player. I saw what they did to it. Heaven, seriously, forfend!
Felicity Love Imperium Galactic Navy 2116	Posted - 2014.08.29 13:30:00 - [17] - Quote So ? ? ? ? DUST has been a waste of time and resources since "Day 1"... "EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.-á-á ( Pick four, any four. They all smell. -á)
BuckStrider Nano-Tech Experiments 414	Posted - 2014.08.29 13:34:00 - [18] - Quote Lothras Andastar wrote: With all the CCP staff leaving for better jobs, how long before EA buys out CCP? 5 days before the servers go dark. Mine smart. Mine safe. Purchase your mining permit today...... www.minerbumping.com
Felicity Love Imperium Galactic Navy 2117	Posted - 2014.08.29 13:42:00 - [19] - Quote Grimpak wrote: I think this guy wasn't in the list of people you should be worried if leaving. Between write-offs of "dead product" and the layoffs (nevermind those that leave), I'm still putting even odds on a buyout within a year. Can't wait for the usual omens (BARDABUNGA ! !) and portents (remember that ECLIPSE that is coming up next year ?) that add such joy to a new owner's inaugural press release: ".... blah, blah, blah... blah, blah... business as usual... blah, blah..." This will not end well... "EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.-á-á ( Pick four, any four. They all smell. -á)
Belt Scout Thread Lockaholics Anonymous 662	Posted - 2014.08.29 13:51:00 - [20] - Quote Prince Kobol wrote: Atli Mar Sveinsson (aka CCP Pretorian, Creative Director of Dust 514) has resigned from CCP Yesterday was is his last day https://twitter.com/atarimar/status/505179924672827392 Another one bites the Dust (Sorry couldn't help myself ) It's the end of the Summer. Kids go back to school. /tinfoil. They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.
Ssabat Thraxx Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project 395	Posted - 2014.08.29 13:53:00 - [21] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: Coincidence, or something more sinister? ...because... ALIENS Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1230	Posted - 2014.08.29 14:04:00 - [22] - Quote BuckStrider wrote: Lothras Andastar wrote: With all the CCP staff leaving for better jobs, how long before EA buys out CCP? 5 days before the servers go dark. By the time CCP gets sold,EVE will already be on it's way to the grave and selling will be Hillmar trying to get some of his eggs out of the falling basket. If EA buys it, it will be for 2 reason. 1- Get the IP for potential future games. 2- Try to pull it out of the hole with investment few company beside EA are able to dump in a game. Most likely number 1.
Mina Sebiestar Mactabilis Simplex Cursus 722	Posted - 2014.08.29 14:18:00 - [23] - Quote Its nothing just business. *covers her ears, Lala, lalala, lala http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
Nico Laitanen Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2014.08.29 15:38:00 - [24] - Quote Hicksimus wrote: Sentamon wrote: Lothras Andastar wrote: With all the CCP staff leaving for better jobs, how long before EA buys out CCP? Purchase a $5 DLC pack to complete your jump to Jita. AK-47 wood grain Anshar is coming to get j00. $5 to get the teabag taunt for CQ, as an added bonus get a second nut for your Thorax. $5 to turn your Ark into a Kirov from C&C, as an added bonus get tesla coil nipple clamps for the missus. I welcome our EA overlords. Edit: You know when the Ark Kirov Edition undocks it says Kirov Reporting. I WANT KIROV ARCS!!!
Thatt Guy Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 110	Posted - 2014.08.29 15:44:00 - [25] - Quote Laying off people, other just leaving... Like rats from a sinking ship. Haters gonna hate, Trolls gonna troll.
Soldarius Deadman W0nderland Test Alliance Please Ignore 769	Posted - 2014.08.29 15:50:00 - [26] - Quote People are used to the Eve-model of failcascade. RL company is not Eve-O. That being said, things need to change. Real effort needs to be put forth to fix the major underlying issues with CCP or it will fail. Note I have said CCP and not Eve-O. GÇ£I personally refuse to help AAA take space from itself so it can become an even shittier version of itselfGÇ¥ -Grath Telkin, 2014. Free PASTA!
Vyl Vit 703	Posted - 2014.08.29 15:57:00 - [27] - Quote I'm really interested in CCP's employment woes. Anyone know anything about their cubicle situation? Anyone with any sense has already left town.
Robby Altair 114	Posted - 2014.08.29 17:28:00 - [28] - Quote Thanks to Atli Mar Sveinsson, those who went before him, and those who will go after him for working at CCP Games. Good luck in your future endeavors. Room 3420 Boelter Hall UCLA
DaReaper Net 7 The Last Brigade 864	Posted - 2014.08.29 17:40:00 - [29] - Quote Honestly, I don't think CCP will be bought by EA anytime soon or ever. Frankly Westwood was absorbed because EA wanted Command and conquer. Once they had that they killed EnB. The only IP that could maybe entice EA is WoD. I doubt eve has the traction to base other games on if eve and the like was killed. Until you see valk and legion launched and how they fair that's when you should worry. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766
Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation RONA Directorate 918	Posted - 2014.08.29 17:44:00 - [30] - Quote EA would never buy CCP, Icelandtic government would never allow it and I'm sure the Volcanoes of Iceland would destroy the world in retribution and the Vikings would come back from the dead and raid all of Europe in anger.
Tam Althor Ill Tempered Sea Trout Brothers of Tangra 48	Posted - 2014.08.29 18:03:00 - [31] - Quote Felicity Love wrote: So ? ? ? ? DUST has been a waste of time and resources since "Day 1"... Now if only they announce that the China office has closed and all development on Dust/Legion has been stopped.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 2503	Posted - 2014.08.29 18:51:00 - [32] - Quote I sure hope this nursery rhyme is not apt : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0ooQv7oHvw This is not a signature.
AnotherUseless Alt Caldari Provisions Caldari State 32	Posted - 2014.08.29 19:09:00 - [33] - Quote How much longer can you kids ignore the facts? You can't keep losing players at the rate CCP is. Player numbers down to 2008 levels, does anyone really believe there isn't a problem? http://www.eve-offline.net I came back on a plex to give my toys away to deserving friends. They may as well have a little fun before they have to find another game. "Self help is all in your head"
Tassin en Lone University of Caille Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2014.08.29 22:23:00 - [34] - Quote The biggest obstacle for CCP to overcome during its 'second decade' will be CCP itself and its lack of focus (EVE, Dust 514, Legion, Valkyrie, WoD) or willpower to finish what they start (ambulation, PI, relevant interaction between Dust and EVE, again WoD). CCP needs decisive leadership, a unified vision for the future, goals that can be achieved with the skills they have at their disposal, an awareness of skills they don't possess, a strict time schedule in which to achieve milestones, competent responsible managers that know how to motivate a team, ... All of the aforementioned will be prerequisites for EVE to make it into its third decade. Carebear Extraordinaire
Zero Sum Gain FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM Silent Requiem 103	Posted - 2014.08.29 22:24:00 - [35] - Quote AnotherUseless Alt wrote: How much longer can you kids ignore the facts? You can't keep losing players at the rate CCP is. Player numbers down to 2008 levels, does anyone really believe there isn't a problem? http://www.eve-offline.net I came back on a plex to give my toys away to deserving friends. They may as well have a little fun before they have to find another game. Goodbye, farewell, adios, and so long.
DaReaper Net 7 The Last Brigade 867	Posted - 2014.08.29 22:35:00 - [36] - Quote AnotherUseless Alt wrote: How much longer can you kids ignore the facts? You can't keep losing players at the rate CCP is. Player numbers down to 2008 levels, does anyone really believe there isn't a problem? http://www.eve-offline.net I came back on a plex to give my toys away to deserving friends. They may as well have a little fun before they have to find another game. And you show why the internet makes people stupid. All that shows is less people logging in at the same time, that proves nothing about subscriptions and the like. For example, I can easily set a month skill on my three accounts, and either hardly touch eve or not log on at all and still pay a sub during that time. eve-offline will show -3 people for the month. Does that mean my account is unsubbed? no it doesn't. In addition, ccp released there finances for the first 6 months, if you ignore the issue about WoD closing, ccp lost around 200k (off the top of my head) if you break that down to its simplest form 200k/6 month = ~$33333.33 / 15 = 2,222 so they are down 2,222 subscriptions. 500k(last year)-2k is nothing. The issue however, is it could be more. As we do not know what % of the total game revenue is subscription and what % is dust/plex/whatever. Nor do we know if sony pays CCP on the back end. I.e. at the end of the year they get a lump sum from sony for all the AUR sales. Plus, you had this thing going on in dust after the Rouge Wedding where people were demanding refunds. So depending on if and how much sony refunded that also could of impacted that as well. Based on raw numbers, CCP has barley lost anyone. Granted they could be down on TQ but way up in plex and other sales, or way up in china. But as I can only prove ccp lost about 2k players in 6 months... shrugs OMG Comet Mining idea!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766
DaReaper Net 7 The Last Brigade 867	Posted - 2014.08.29 22:51:00 - [37] - Quote AnotherUseless Alt wrote: How much longer can you kids ignore the facts? You can't keep losing players at the rate CCP is. Player numbers down to 2008 levels, does anyone really believe there isn't a problem? http://www.eve-offline.net I came back on a plex to give my toys away to deserving friends. They may as well have a little fun before they have to find another game. One more piece to note, while the average players online are down to 2008 levels, if you look at the daily numbers they are hitting near 40k every day, and some, on the 24th for example topped out at 42k, which is 12k more then the average. So again, this doesn't really show anything OMG Comet Mining idea!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766
Belt Scout Thread Lockaholics Anonymous 662	Posted - 2014.08.29 22:54:00 - [38] - Quote Thatt Guy wrote: Laying off people, other just leaving... Like rats from a sinking ship. Go back to bed. :P They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.
rogue Aldebaran Rogue Fleet 7	Posted - 2014.08.30 00:27:00 - [39] - Quote I heard CCP Hamster thinks about leaving to.
AnotherUseless Alt Caldari Provisions Caldari State 34	Posted - 2014.08.30 00:27:00 - [40] - Quote DaReaper wrote: AnotherUseless Alt wrote: How much longer can you kids ignore the facts? You can't keep losing players at the rate CCP is. Player numbers down to 2008 levels, does anyone really believe there isn't a problem? http://www.eve-offline.net I came back on a plex to give my toys away to deserving friends. They may as well have a little fun before they have to find another game. One more piece to note, while the average players online are down to 2008 levels, if you look at the daily numbers they are hitting near 40k every day, and some, on the 24th for example topped out at 42k, which is 12k more then the average. So again, this doesn't really show anything You can spin it anyway you want son, but the reality is, average players is the only metric we really have to measure game success/failure. You really think average player numbers have dropped, and more people are subscribed? CCP is a private company, they can make it look however they want to make themselves look better. But keep believing....Lots of people believe in fairy tales.... "Self help is all in your head"
rogue Aldebaran Rogue Fleet 7	Posted - 2014.08.30 00:34:00 - [41] - Quote AnotherUseless Alt wrote: DaReaper wrote: AnotherUseless Alt wrote: How much longer can you kids ignore the facts? You can't keep losing players at the rate CCP is. Player numbers down to 2008 levels, does anyone really believe there isn't a problem? http://www.eve-offline.net I came back on a plex to give my toys away to deserving friends. They may as well have a little fun before they have to find another game. One more piece to note, while the average players online are down to 2008 levels, if you look at the daily numbers they are hitting near 40k every day, and some, on the 24th for example topped out at 42k, which is 12k more then the average. So again, this doesn't really show anything You can spin it anyway you want son, but the reality is, average players is the only metric we really have to measure game success/failure. You really think average player numbers have dropped, and more people are subscribed? CCP is a private company, they can make it look however they want to make themselves look better. But keep believing....Lots of people believe in fairy tales.... You are wasting your time with that guy.
Carlos Brutus Limitless Inc. Holdings 1	Posted - 2014.08.30 00:56:00 - [42] - Quote http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility Daily numbers are not hitting near 40k everyday, and the graph shows the numbers are not at a strong level. Daily numbers hit over 40k on Sundays on occasion. This is not unusual for summer but even so there is a slowdown. But that's not unique to Eve; MMOs are having a bad year according to online sources. Not going to trouble to find links but you can google and see. The last couple of weekends have been better, probably due to Alliance Tournament. You don't have to guess about the numbers, just bookmark this site, which is run by Chribba. 2.5 accounts per player is the figure I have read, so 36k accounts online means roughly 14-15k actual players; though the average number of accounts per player may be lower by now, since recent game changes have lowered the need for multiple accounts.
Cameron Freerunner Four Pillars Brothers of Tangra 101	Posted - 2014.08.30 02:07:00 - [43] - Quote Prince Kobol wrote: Atli Mar Sveinsson (aka CCP Pretorian, Creative Director of Dust 514) has resigned from CCP Yesterday was is his last day https://twitter.com/atarimar/status/505179924672827392 Another one bites the Dust (Sorry couldn't help myself ) The difference in location a link makes https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=370026
Sibyyl Gallente Federation 9263	Posted - 2014.08.30 03:45:00 - [44] - Quote Carlos Brutus wrote: since recent game changes have lowered the need for multiple accounts. I'm curious.. what do you think these changes are? ~ Please support a yellow jumpsuit for me (and everyone else). Thank you! ~
DaReaper Net 7 The Last Brigade 869	Posted - 2014.08.30 04:05:00 - [45] - Quote AnotherUseless Alt wrote: DaReaper wrote: AnotherUseless Alt wrote: How much longer can you kids ignore the facts? You can't keep losing players at the rate CCP is. Player numbers down to 2008 levels, does anyone really believe there isn't a problem? http://www.eve-offline.net I came back on a plex to give my toys away to deserving friends. They may as well have a little fun before they have to find another game. One more piece to note, while the average players online are down to 2008 levels, if you look at the daily numbers they are hitting near 40k every day, and some, on the 24th for example topped out at 42k, which is 12k more then the average. So again, this doesn't really show anything You can spin it anyway you want son, but the reality is, average players is the only metric we really have to measure game success/failure. You really think average player numbers have dropped, and more people are subscribed? CCP is a private company, they can make it look however they want to make themselves look better. But keep believing....Lots of people believe in fairy tales.... Sigh, clearly you did not read or understand what i wrote. As i pretty much said, base doff the info we have, ccp has lost about 2k subscribers. But thats just raw info, not broken down. A good % of that could be AUR/Dust?plex sales/something other then subscriptions. And the daily numbers peak well above average. I'm saying, simply put, if you ignore the write off of WoD, and look at CCP's revenues for the 1/2 a year, its only down 200k. The scary thing though, is that it is prolly telling that Dust doesn;t pull in a ton of money, because the samer period last year had dust 'live' for about a month before the 1/2 year figures were written. Looking at that, CCP is fine. Now if we had subscriber numbers then we could paint a full picture, but we don;t. Eve-offline doesn;t tell you anything about subscriber numbers, just how many accounts are online. And there could be a ton of accounts that are just skill trianing and paid up for months, OR there could be a ton unsubscribed/ At this point, with the data we have currently, we can;t tell for sure what it is. Just that ccp is down form last year 1.8%, which honestly is not a huge deal. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 3078	Posted - 2014.08.30 04:16:00 - [46] - Quote Sibyyl wrote: Carlos Brutus wrote: since recent game changes have lowered the need for multiple accounts. I'm curious.. what do you think these changes are? Multiple Character Training. People no longer need additional accounts to train short-time alts that do not need to be logged on concurrently. (PI, market, manufacturing, etc.) People who train and sell characters no longer necessarily need additional accounts to do so. This does result in fewer concurrent logins and in some cases fewer subs. "i advice you to go spit on the back of someone else because you are fall on the wrong horse." - Meio Rayliegh
DaReaper Net 7 The Last Brigade 869	Posted - 2014.08.30 04:21:00 - [47] - Quote rogue Aldebaran wrote: AnotherUseless Alt wrote: DaReaper wrote: AnotherUseless Alt wrote: How much longer can you kids ignore the facts? You can't keep losing players at the rate CCP is. Player numbers down to 2008 levels, does anyone really believe there isn't a problem? http://www.eve-offline.net I came back on a plex to give my toys away to deserving friends. They may as well have a little fun before they have to find another game. One more piece to note, while the average players online are down to 2008 levels, if you look at the daily numbers they are hitting near 40k every day, and some, on the 24th for example topped out at 42k, which is 12k more then the average. So again, this doesn't really show anything You can spin it anyway you want son, but the reality is, average players is the only metric we really have to measure game success/failure. You really think average player numbers have dropped, and more people are subscribed? CCP is a private company, they can make it look however they want to make themselves look better. But keep believing....Lots of people believe in fairy tales.... You are wasting your time with that guy. He's not wasting his time, i listen to decent arguments. The fact's however, prove that he and the people flipping out over eve-offlines numbers and pulling conclusions out of there ass. If you can give me a fact, like oh idk, an artificial that says eve is down a lot of subscriber then fine. But i look at the same data you are, as well as take into account the financial report, and the picture that is painted for me, is no where close to what is painted for you. Mainly because the 'losses' are not really losses. and when you compare CCP's operational budget of 28m with there revenue stream of 36.5m or whatever it is (i forget what the . is off the top of my head) then you see CCP is making money. The loss would not be a loss if they had not canceled WoD, thus it is more then likly on the books to write off taxes. Also people posting glassdoor.com, where as it is fully admitted that ccp was not sure what to do with WoD and eve was there baby, means that people posting there form the Atlanta office ofc are going to be biased as that was the way it was. WoD was a secondary project and not important. and no, they can;t just post whatever they want to make themselves look rosey. They have to report income and stuff correctly to the Iceland equivalent of the IRS or be audited and shut down if they are cooking the books. If they lie in public statements, it can bite them in the ass later. They can however, omit the raw data, as in what % of revenue is Dust and what % is eve and what % is other. Now, could i be analyzing the data before me incorrectly? Sure i could. Does it mater? Nope. I'll play eve till the lights go off or they pry the keyboard form my cold dead hands. If you don;t like eve, or don;t want to play then why are you here? And if you like eve, then why worry about how well ccp is doing? if you are that worried get more accounts or spend more money. Otherwise, who cares. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766
Spurty V0LTA Triumvirate. 1399	Posted - 2014.08.30 04:24:00 - [48] - Quote I'd pay an extra $5 a month for open access to all stations Probably $20 for a "pos cracker module" :-D Sell the right stuff and I'm buying it *signature is not allowed on the EVE Online forums*
Jenni LaCroix Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 7	Posted - 2014.08.30 15:49:00 - [49] - Quote the next thing to happen is the complete cancellation of Dust 514, lol, will I laugh my arse off if that happens.
DaReaper Net 7 The Last Brigade 874	Posted - 2014.08.30 16:06:00 - [50] - Quote Jenni LaCroix wrote: the next thing to happen is the complete cancellation of Dust 514, lol, will I laugh my arse off if that happens. uh you are behind on the times, thats already in works, and will happen once Legion is made, if it is. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766
Zimmy Zeta Lisa Needs Braces. 46186	Posted - 2014.08.30 16:19:00 - [51] - Quote Domanique Altares wrote: Sibyyl wrote: Carlos Brutus wrote: since recent game changes have lowered the need for multiple accounts. I'm curious.. what do you think these changes are? Multiple Character Training. People no longer need additional accounts to train short-time alts that do not need to be logged on concurrently. (PI, market, manufacturing, etc.) People who train and sell characters no longer necessarily need additional accounts to do so. This does result in fewer concurrent logins and in some cases fewer subs. Also the changes in invention mean that several additional characters that do nothing but copy blueprints all day long are no longer mandatory. I welcome these changes, but I am afraid they may lead to less subscribed accounts. I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan 6778	Posted - 2014.08.30 16:21:00 - [52] - Quote Zimmy Zeta wrote: I welcome these changes, but I am afraid they may lead to less subscribed accounts. And EvE will be dyingTM! "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
Dinsdale Pirannha Pirannha Corp 3409	Posted - 2014.08.30 16:26:00 - [53] - Quote People come and go from a company, so yet another high profile name leaving is not in and of itself news. The key is to look at the trends. Is CCP shedding more quality people than they are hiring, even with the WoD and Dust disasters factored in? First half 2014 financials were released. Income was essentially flat from the previous year (down I think 200,000 dollars) compared to the same 2013 period. And looking at the summer login numbers, things look grim for the 2nd half numbers, which we will see in Feb 2015. I think that set of financials will be far more telling as to what the fate of Eve and CCP is. But hey, in the meantime, the propagandists and ISD can, and will, shut down any conversation about this, because "it is non-constructive".
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 4452	Posted - 2014.08.30 16:33:00 - [54] - Quote Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: People come and go from a company, so yet another high profile name leaving is not in and of itself news. The key is to look at the trends. Is CCP shedding more quality people than they are hiring, even with the WoD and Dust disasters factored in? First half 2014 financials were released. Gross revenue was essentially flat from the previous year (down I think 200,000 dollars) compared to the same 2013 period. And looking at the summer login numbers, things look grim for the 2nd half numbers, which we will see in Feb 2015. I think that set of financials will be far more telling as to what the fate of Eve and CCP is. But hey, in the meantime, the propagandists and ISD can, and will, shut down any conversation about this, because "it is non-constructive". thats because it generally is non-constructive ill informed "theskyisfallingweareallgoonadieeeee" rumourmongering, or is quickly usurped for that purpose. =][=
Sibyyl Gallente Federation 9305	Posted - 2014.08.30 16:40:00 - [55] - Quote Thanks Dom, Zim.. I did not realize Multiple Character Training is less than a year old. I've always taken it for granted, having started in Feb, and I assumed that it was a legacy feature. ~ Please support a yellow jumpsuit for me (and everyone else). Thank you! ~
Erika Tsurpalen SoulFire Gaming 5	Posted - 2014.08.30 17:44:00 - [56] - Quote Hicksimus wrote: $5 to turn your Ark into a Kirov from C&C I welcome our EA overlords. You know when the Ark Kirov Edition undocks it says Kirov Reporting. Man i'd pay $20 for that I dont even care.

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