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Jugernauth
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Posted - 2014.09.04 19:26:00 -
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Some time ago the mineral juse to build large medium and small bubbels went up allot. After the next patch they went down again.
The minerals for a large build went up form about 10 mil to 62 mil then down to 10 again.
I taken a 14 bil loss because i was under the impression that the mineral chance was for ever after the first update. There where no post to be found anywhere that it was not ment that way and ccp would go chance it back. The mineral price chance was a bug and i think ccp should reimburst my loss.
Hope you can fix this ccp.
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Jugernauth
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Posted - 2014.09.04 19:37:00 -
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Made petition and was told to make a forum thread because gm can not handle these kind off reimburstments. so lets see what they answerr |
Jugernauth
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Posted - 2014.09.04 19:39:00 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:Jugernauth wrote:Some time ago the mineral juse to build large medium and small bubbels went up allot. After the next patch they went down again.
The minerals for a large build went up form about 10 mil to 62 mil then down to 10 again.
I taken a 14 bil loss because i was under the impression that the mineral chance was for ever after the first update. There where no post to be found anywhere that it was not ment that way and ccp would go chance it back. The mineral price chance was a bug and i think ccp should reimburst my loss.
Hope you can fix this ccp.
So you speculated on minerals and took it in the shorts.
There was no speculation because the BPO's told that the price was good. Thats the point! BPO where's bugged. |
Jugernauth
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Posted - 2014.09.04 19:52:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Jugernauth wrote:Made petition and was told to make a forum thread because gm can not handle these kind off reimburstments. What they meant was, post a thread so we can all laugh at you instead of just the GMs.
Yes ofc they did |
Jugernauth
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:18:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Jugernauth wrote:I taken a 14 bil loss because i was under the impression that the mineral chance was for ever after the first update. No changes in EVE are permanent. You speculated that a massive, unannounced increase in mineral costs out of line with any other changes in the patch was intentional. You got burned nice and bad. You'll have about the same luck as the guy who speculated by buying billions of ISK worth of station containers and got laughed at in a Dev Blog.
massive increases in mineral costs are never announced.
Do not know the container storie. |
Jugernauth
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:30:00 -
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BuckStrider wrote:What's a 'bubbels' ?
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=25ew679&s=7#.VAjMFWOXNuY
spoken as a threu high sec carebear..... |
Jugernauth
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:45:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:But that meme is about 'bubbles' not 'bubbels'
Maybe ppl did not noticed yet but my english is bad,,,, ty for pointing this out |
Jugernauth
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:59:00 -
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Absolutely Not Analt wrote:Jugernauth wrote:Made petition and was told to make a forum thread because gm can not handle these kind off reimburstments. so lets see what they answerr That, quite frankly, is bullshit. No GM is going to redirect you to the forums for a reimbursement request. There is precisely **** all anyone on the forums can do for you.
Will posf the message tomorrow off the gm |
Jugernauth
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:00:00 -
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Chad Ramsbottom wrote:Absolutely Not Analt wrote:Jugernauth wrote:Made petition and was told to make a forum thread because gm can not handle these kind off reimburstments. so lets see what they answerr There is precisely **** all anyone on the forums can do for you. But look at all this constructive criticism!
This is eve ppl like to help |
Jugernauth
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Posted - 2014.09.05 04:07:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Jugernauth wrote:Absolutely Not Analt wrote:Jugernauth wrote:Made petition and was told to make a forum thread because gm can not handle these kind off reimburstments. so lets see what they answerr That, quite frankly, is bullshit. No GM is going to redirect you to the forums for a reimbursement request. There is precisely **** all anyone on the forums can do for you. Will posf the message tomorrow off the gm Posting GM correspondance is against the forum rules
Then i will first send petition to gm iff its oke to post his answer. |
Jugernauth
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Posted - 2014.09.05 04:59:00 -
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Damon Messer wrote:so you took a gamble on the market and lost isk? is that it OP?
Nope |
Jugernauth
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Posted - 2014.09.05 07:13:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Jugernauth wrote:Damon Messer wrote:so you took a gamble on the market and lost isk? is that it OP? Nope Fine, we can be technical about it. You took a gamble on patch speculation and lost ISK.
There was no speculation. Speculation iff you try to predict the future. This was a bugged display off needed materials.
So why did ccp reimburst the ppl that paided the wrong starting price for starting jobs (was also a bug in that same patch)? Same problem it seems to me....... |
Jugernauth
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Posted - 2014.09.05 12:43:00 -
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Grog Aftermath wrote:Tippia wrote:Jugernauth wrote:There was no speculation. Speculation iff you try to predict the future. This was a bugged display off needed materials. It was just a bugged display of needed materials, you won't have lost anything. He would have made a loss if he stockpiled the finished products paying more than they were worth (at 10k material costs) expecting to get more than he paid back once they were at 62k material costs. But he would have to have stockpiled a huge amount to incur a 14 billion loss. He doesn't say if the 14 billion loss is actual loss or actual loss and projected profits as part of that loss.
its not 10k but 10 mil. I bought around 500 and exspect to make loss off 30 mil a pice. That is around 14 bil. So i stockpiled good yes. Bought at 40 mil average. So its not projected profit loss but actual isk that i had loss |
Jugernauth
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Posted - 2014.09.05 12:47:00 -
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Rab See wrote:You made isk when the price went up, all those bubbles you had built beforehand.
Please hand the isk back and we can talk about it.
In the original reimburstment requist to ccp i calculated everything that i made and lost. That ammount i asked. So think that would be fair. |
Jugernauth
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Posted - 2014.09.05 13:58:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Jugernauth wrote:Rab See wrote:You made isk when the price went up, all those bubbles you had built beforehand.
Please hand the isk back and we can talk about it. In the original reimburstment requist to ccp i calculated everything that i made and lost. That ammount i asked. So think that would be fair. You speculated & lost, you won't get anything back.
I jused data from in game that i think i could have jused because i could not know they where presented by a bug.
Again ppl that payed the wrong amount whit the startingcost did geth reimburst. Same thing bug whit wrong number leads to a loss for a player. |
Jugernauth
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:21:00 -
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Grog Aftermath wrote:Jugernauth wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Jugernauth wrote:Rab See wrote:You made isk when the price went up, all those bubbles you had built beforehand.
Please hand the isk back and we can talk about it. In the original reimburstment requist to ccp i calculated everything that i made and lost. That ammount i asked. So think that would be fair. You speculated & lost, you won't get anything back. I jused data from in game that i think i could have jused because i could not know they where presented by a bug. Again ppl that payed the wrong amount whit the startingcost did geth reimburst. Same thing bug whit wrong number leads to a loss for a player. CCP is at fault to some extent with the bug as you based your decisions on that bug. However, you are also at fault for trying to take advantage of that bug (even though you didn't know it was one), by paying more than the normal market price to secure your stockpile. You took a risk that the information was correct even though it must have seemed suspiciously incorrect. That's the way I see it anyway. Yes ccp bugged thats the point. Agree that i should have been more suspicious would take a 50/50 deal om the loss du to split responsibiletie I'll be surprised if you get anything back.
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