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Leaveme Alone To'Mine
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2014.09.06 15:34:00 -
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It took how many years for them to find a wormhole and transverse it in Star Trek? 35 years? Yet we have wormholes in our system every freaki'n day!
I am not sure I will continue to support CCP by actually paying CASH, or PLEX for that matter, for my 3 accounts just to log in and spend the day sitting in a pos bubble.
Some people actually love to mine. |

LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
507
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Posted - 2014.09.06 15:47:00 -
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Leaveme Alone To'Mine wrote: It took how many years for them to find a wormhole and transverse it in Star Trek? 35 years? Yet we have wormholes in our system every freaki'n day!
I am not sure I will continue to support CCP by actually paying CASH, or PLEX for that matter, for my 3 accounts just to log in and spend the day sitting in a pos bubble.
Some people actually love to mine.
Safety of high sec is just a few jumps away.
Safety of D-scanner and aligned ship is just a few mouse clicks away.
Rolling battleships, orcas, hics, carriers are a few million isk away.
Plenty of options.
If none are acceptable to you, consider this: 95% of wormhole space is empty. So all those connections? Mostly empty, too. |

Leaveme Alone To'Mine
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2014.09.06 15:55:00 -
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Ahh, life before wormholes. You talk like wormholes have been an EVE feature from day one. Sorry, but the frequency of wormholes now is just too often. |

Alundil
Isogen 5
659
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Posted - 2014.09.06 16:16:00 -
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To many exclamation marks.
I'm right behind you |

LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
507
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Posted - 2014.09.06 16:19:00 -
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Leaveme Alone To'Mine wrote:Ahh, life before wormholes. You talk like wormholes have been an EVE feature from day one. Sorry, but the frequency of wormholes now is just too often.
I like it. More stuff to do. |

Leaveme Alone To'Mine
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Brothers of Tangra
0
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Posted - 2014.09.06 16:24:00 -
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Don't get me wrong, wormholes have their place in EVE now. But the frequency of wormholes randomly appearing is just crazy. Not only that, CCP has tried to make real life physics a part of the game, yet I bet that even Stephen Hawkings would agree that for wormholes to appear as often as they do now would rip space/time. |

Mister Tuggles
Faceless Men
94
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Posted - 2014.09.06 17:34:00 -
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Leaveme Alone To'Mine wrote: It took how many years for them to find a wormhole and transverse it in Star Trek? 35 years? Yet we have wormholes in our system every freaki'n day!
I am not sure I will continue to support CCP by actually paying CASH, or PLEX for that matter, for my 3 accounts just to log in and spend the day sitting in a pos bubble.
Some people actually love to mine.
Stop your complaining you god damn nullbear. I hope you get WH residents raping your bots every ******* day. |

Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
458
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Posted - 2014.09.06 17:41:00 -
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The more connections the better!!  Blue-Fire Best Fire |

Leaveme Alone To'Mine
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2014.09.06 18:00:00 -
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Mister Tuggles wrote:Leaveme Alone To'Mine wrote: It took how many years for them to find a wormhole and transverse it in Star Trek? 35 years? Yet we have wormholes in our system every freaki'n day!
I am not sure I will continue to support CCP by actually paying CASH, or PLEX for that matter, for my 3 accounts just to log in and spend the day sitting in a pos bubble.
Some people actually love to mine. Stop your complaining you god damn nullbear. I hope you get WH residents raping your bots every ******* day.
I guess they all learn to fly. |

Experiment 32423
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.06 18:29:00 -
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Let me get this right, you are complaining about one, maybe two wormholes on occasion, leading into your local-protected safety bubble somewhere deep in null?
That's pretty amazing, and slightly pathetic.
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Leaveme Alone To'Mine
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2014.09.06 18:36:00 -
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Experiment 32423 wrote:Let me get this right, you are complaining about one, maybe two wormholes on occasion, leading into your local-protected safety bubble somewhere deep in null?
That's pretty amazing, and slightly pathetic.
Please read my post. We are having them EVERYDAY. ALL DAY ! |

Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
852
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Posted - 2014.09.06 18:41:00 -
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Here's a thought, try rolling the holes and closing them and then go about your daily mining. Or if it's a frigate hole, mine where you're in dscan range on the holes so you can see if anything comes in, if you're aligned then it's not a problem is it.
You're in Brothers of Tangra, if they can't field enough people to close the damned wormholes I'd suggest you find another corp and alliance matey 
You seem to be complaining that you can't now go AFK and mine all day in your little pocket of otherwise, bubblecamped safety and complaining that people have a back door past the camps. Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |

Mizhir
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
67585
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Posted - 2014.09.06 19:11:00 -
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Nullsec is supposed to be dangerous. HTFU! One Man Crew - Collective solo pvp |

Leaveme Alone To'Mine
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Brothers of Tangra
0
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Posted - 2014.09.06 19:24:00 -
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So far nothing but wormhole PvPers that have nothing but their own interests in mind have replied. I am giving my opinon of the Hyperion release and that within it is the increased frequency of appearing wormholes. I "as a non-wormhole PvPer", do not approve. |

Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
853
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Posted - 2014.09.06 19:39:00 -
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Leaveme Alone To'Mine wrote:So far nothing but wormhole PvPers that have nothing but their own interests in mind have replied. I am giving my opinon of the Hyperion release and that within it is the increased frequency of appearing wormholes. I "as a non-wormhole PvPer", do not approve. Which part of field a fleet to roll the holes did you not understand? You realise you don't have to PvP to jump through a hole right. Yes of course you do, you're just being finiky because you can no longer AFK 23/7 by the sound of it...
Yes, I PvP in wormholes and K-Space, does that mean I should start commenting on mining in nullsec, a topic I know very little about, because you are doing vice versa. You have other options than run away, hide or log off.
I was trying to find Cobexx's post about wormholes and virgins but alas, I could not find it. Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |

Pro TIps
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2014.09.06 20:09:00 -
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Why are these wormholes bothering you? If a neutral shows up in Local just go to your POS until you can investigate where they come from. That should be SOP for a nullbear miner anyway.
If you're suggesting it's less safe to AFK mine now, well, don't AFK mine then; or better, keep on doing it, and just replace mining ships when you lose them from time to time. Big deal. |

scorchlikeshiswhiskey
interstellar initiative Incorporated
248
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Posted - 2014.09.06 20:20:00 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:Leaveme Alone To'Mine wrote:So far nothing but wormhole PvPers that have nothing but their own interests in mind have replied. I am giving my opinon of the Hyperion release and that within it is the increased frequency of appearing wormholes. I "as a non-wormhole PvPer", do not approve. Which part of field a fleet to roll the holes did you not understand? You realise you don't have to PvP to jump through a hole right. Yes of course you do, you're just being finiky because you can no longer AFK 23/7 by the sound of it... Yes, I PvP in wormholes and K-Space, does that mean I should start commenting on mining in nullsec, a topic I know very little about, because you are doing vice versa. You have other options than run away, hide or log off. I was trying to find Cobexx's post about wormholes and virgins but alas, I could not find it. --- Edit: For the record I have a fair few miners in the corp who all know how to roll open holes before they start mining. 90% of them, have very little PvP skills but will do so if neccessary... To play devil's advocate, I am of the opinion that their are far too many frigate holes spawning. From the little bit I have seen, it seems that a large number of holes get 1 at least every other day, if not more holes or more frequently. And, since these are non-closeable, provide a very real security risk that is hard to manage for someone off-TZ or in a small group to start with. As for other holes, rolling holes that are actually closeable is covered in WH-101 and, even with Hyperion, is quite manageable for a semi-competent small group of 2 or more. It might take some time, but learn to roll and you will be fine until a frig hole opens. |

umnikar
Fishbone Industries
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Posted - 2014.09.06 20:20:00 -
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Are there really more spawns in null now? I just checked my alts alliance wh-intel. It looked to be the half like before hyperion...not to say they are mostly harmless ;) |

Jessica Duranin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
128
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Posted - 2014.09.06 20:35:00 -
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What exactly is the difference between someone coming through a gate, and someone coming through a wormhole to shoot your ratting carrier? They both show up in local well before they even had a chance to load grid and that warpout bot that half of bearsec uses certainly doesn't care either. |

Mizhir
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
67595
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Posted - 2014.09.06 20:42:00 -
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Leaveme Alone To'Mine wrote:So far nothing but wormhole PvPers that have nothing but their own interests in mind have replied. I am giving my opinon of the Hyperion release and that within it is the increased frequency of appearing wormholes. I "as a non-wormhole PvPer", do not approve.
And so far nothing but your own nullbear interestes is against the WHs. One Man Crew - Collective solo pvp |

Mizhir
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
67598
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Posted - 2014.09.06 20:43:00 -
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Jessica Duranin wrote:What exactly is the difference between someone coming through a gate, and someone coming through a wormhole to shoot your ratting carrier? They both show up in local well before they even had a chance to load grid and that warpout bot that half of bearsec uses certainly doesn't care either.
The difference is that the guy going through gate has been spotting over 10 systems out and reported in the intel channel so the bears got plenty of time to dock up. One Man Crew - Collective solo pvp |

Leaveme Alone To'Mine
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Brothers of Tangra
0
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Posted - 2014.09.06 21:25:00 -
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Why does everyone ASSuME that I would be AFK mining? From those type of responses I gather that only gankers are replying. I never AFK mine, NEVER.
This character may only be a year or so old but my two mains have been in the game since 2003. I am only saying that the increased frequency of wormhole appearance is much to frequent since Hyperion!
Sheezzz, get over yourselves already. |

Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
853
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Posted - 2014.09.06 21:36:00 -
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Leaveme Alone To'Mine wrote:I am only saying that the increased frequency of wormhole appearance is much to frequent since Hyperion! No. You where complaining and threatening to quit. Which is why you wont recieve much of a reception here...
Leaveme Alone To'Mine wrote: I am not sure I will continue to support CCP by actually paying CASH, or PLEX for that matter, for my 3 accounts just to log in and spend the day sitting in a pos bubble. Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |

Chicken Exroofer
Regional Assault and Recon
80
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Posted - 2014.09.06 21:51:00 -
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So...... you have instaneous intel that someone has entered the system with local chat. And yet you say you have too many wormholes to work.
How do you think us wormhole guys feel? Starting to understand yet yet why we don't like the changes? |

Jake Loki
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.09.06 22:19:00 -
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true |

Experiment 32423
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.06 22:25:00 -
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Leaveme Alone To'Mine wrote:Experiment 32423 wrote:Let me get this right, you are complaining about one, maybe two wormholes on occasion, leading into your local-protected safety bubble somewhere deep in null?
That's pretty amazing, and slightly pathetic.
Please read my post. We are having them EVERYDAY.
Oh no, everyday?
In that case, let me help you out. Contact the people in charge of logistics in your alliance/corp, and use their JF services to haul a couple of probe launchers from Jita to you. There are plenty of videos on Youtube that will explain how these mythical devices work so I won't get into that. Once you find the devious wormhole, you will be able to enter it by right clicking - now, don't be afraid, you may return to the safety of null immediately after.
Repeating the above process will eventually kill the evil wormhole and restore the peace your asteroids deserve. And no, your little mining barge is not big enough to collapse the hole.
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Winthorp
2691
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Posted - 2014.09.06 22:41:00 -
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You whine about too many WH's yet you have a completely OVERPOWERED local chat mechanic that warns you and your intel channels of a pilots arrival INSTANTLY within your system/region.
Just wait until local chat is removed and you have to actually use some form of active intelligence gathering to live in your space, i know that seems dangerous but you are living in the most dangerous place in eve right? |

Hans Bonderstadt
Codename-47
42
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Posted - 2014.09.06 22:56:00 -
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This thread makes me laugh so hard and get so mad at the same time Srs tho, fk local, I cant tell you how many ratters I've landed in the site of to have them warping off you kids get it easy 1-2 wormholes in your system shouldn't make you cry uncle |

Leaveme Alone To'Mine
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Brothers of Tangra
0
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Posted - 2014.09.06 23:26:00 -
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OK then, let's bring back the "can't be targeted once warp is engaged" and see if that would even it out. I doubt that many of you even remember that. |

Experiment 32423
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2014.09.06 23:59:00 -
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Leaveme Alone To'Mine wrote:OK then, let's bring back the "can't be targeted once warp is engaged" and see if that would even it out. I doubt that many of you even remember that.
Sure, but can we remove warp to zero as well then?
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