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LauraBalls
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:32:00 -
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Yesterday evening a CCP employee (Sharkbait) encouraged web defacements on a website EVE Information Wiki as an attempt to try to shut down this wiki with EVE technical information.
He then proceeded to abuse a customer on the forum by editing their post and then tried to cover up this by removning it but on the site attacked there is an image of his abuse.
What does CCP have to say about his support and active encouragement of web defacements? CCP has been notified and awaiting a response and so has the various ISP's involved.
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Ediz Daxx
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:35:00 -
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huh?
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LauraBalls
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Ediz Daxx
huh?
Yup, website defeced and encouraged by developer Sharkbait. Sad sad state of affairs when a company has to abuse customers who take a technical interest in the game and post it on a website.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:36:00 -
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Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 30/07/2006 08:38:35
IBTL
'Space Gurl', hmm, why does that name set my troll-detector off?
edit: That link is pathetic.
'Cyber vandalism'? God, that site's author is a freaking moron.
I'm curious to know what sSpace troll said before it got modded, because as you can see from the pre-'vandalism'( ), a beatdown was incoming.
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Omber Zombie
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:37:00 -
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am i missing something? Where in the picture that you have there is sharkbait encouraging cyber vandalism?
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Yesterday evening a CCP employee (Sharkbait) encouraged web defacements on a website EVE Information Wiki as an attempt to try to shut down this wiki with EVE technical information.
Posting eve technical info to an eve info site? This is bad?
Sorry, but you're not making a huge aount of sense here.
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LauraBalls
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 30/07/2006 08:36:45
One thing to say:
IBTL.
'Space Gurl', hmm, why does that name set my troll-detector off?
edit: That link is pathetic.
'Cyber vandalism'? God, that site's author is a freaking moron.
Your personal views does not mean you have the right to attack somebodys site. Are you actually saying you support such actions?
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Ediz Daxx
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:40:00 -
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Proof proof proof.. where is it hiding? Under a rock? Under my desk? In the woods perhaps?
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Merv Tring
GeoTech
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:40:00 -
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Do you have any evidence that Sharkie did anything but ban a ridiculously annoying troll? Any evidence at all? The tiniest little scrap will do.
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LauraBalls
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:42:00 -
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Edited by: LauraBalls on 30/07/2006 08:42:40
Originally by: Merv Tring
Do you have any evidence that Sharkie did anything but ban a ridiculously annoying troll? Any evidence at all? The tiniest little scrap will do.
As you can see clearly on the website an image of his immaturity on the forums by editing customers posts to make them say something they did not say and encouraging childish behaviour by defacements which soon followed from various IP's which have been reported to CCP and the appropriate ISP abuse contacts.
I do expect many people who are fans of Eve will stand out in support of such attacks. Sad day for the EVE community I think when such defacements take place in the name of "support".
Everybody is entitled to their views but enforcing them by WEB DEFACEMENTS is not to way to go about it.
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HappyKitten
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:42:00 -
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I have no idea about the other situations involved, but have a look at Space Gurl's posting history, and you will most likely totally agree with Sharkbait's modification.
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Ediz Daxx
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:43:00 -
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I still dont see any evidence!
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SengH
Black Omega Security
E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:44:00 -
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i wonder if eve search stores unedited and undeleted threads... ill go take a lookie.
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Merv Tring
GeoTech
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:44:00 -
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Sharkbait edited the text of that post to be very much in line with SpaceGurl's previous trolling history. Nothing wrong with that.
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LauraBalls
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ediz Daxx
I still dont see any evidence!
The history logs and the image of Sharkbait encouraging "editing" of items to make somebody say "I suck" (in the image at the bottom of the web site and the first post). He also removed the thread to cover it up so he does not look so IMMATURE. I think it says alot. Ofcourse if you want to be blinkered, that is up to you. The appropriate action has been taken.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: LauraBalls
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 30/07/2006 08:36:45
One thing to say:
IBTL.
'Space Gurl', hmm, why does that name set my troll-detector off?
edit: That link is pathetic.
'Cyber vandalism'? God, that site's author is a freaking moron.
Your personal views does not mean you have the right to attack somebodys site. Are you actually saying you support such actions?
You do know what a wiki is right?
You do? Good, then I don't have to explain to you how pathetic whining about a puublicly modable site is.
Or are you going to try and argue that I 'vandalized' wikipedia when I edited the scientology entry to include links to articles dealing with people their members have killed (which got modded at an insane speed).
Do I support the idea of a publicly editable site being edited by anyone? You bet I do. I think public wikis are nothing short of retarded, and people don't realize most entries in wikis are biased and often inaccurate.
I'm curious, is Sharkbait 'zorck' and if so, how do you know this? That website's 'history' is about as clear as a lead shield in showing his 'guilt'.
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Dem Bones
Drunken Angels
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:46:00 -
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Sharkbait, on the grassy knoll, with the lead pipe
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Ediz Daxx
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:47:00 -
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I dont care about the post.. youre accusing CCP of "Cyber Vandalism"(of Doom?).. so evidence please.
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Splagada
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:47:00 -
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Edited by: Splagada on 30/07/2006 08:47:53
chill a bit serious, i dont see the huge freaking thing there... he edited a post of a troll, that's it
or am i missing the point?
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LauraBalls
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:47:00 -
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Edited by: LauraBalls on 30/07/2006 08:47:08
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: LauraBalls
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 30/07/2006 08:36:45
One thing to say:
IBTL.
'Space Gurl', hmm, why does that name set my troll-detector off?
edit: That link is pathetic.
'Cyber vandalism'? God, that site's author is a freaking moron.
Your personal views does not mean you have the right to attack somebodys site. Are you actually saying you support such actions?
You do know what a wiki is right?
You do? Good, then I don't have to explain to you how pathetic whining about a puublicly modable site is.
Or are you going to try and argue that I 'vandalized' wikipedia when I edited the scientology entry to include links to articles dealing with people their members have killed (which got modded at an insane speed).
Do I support the idea of a publicly editable site being edited by anyone? You bet I do. I think public wikis are nothing short of retarded, and people don't realize most entries in wikis are biased and often inaccurate.
I'm curious, is Sharkbait 'zorck' and if so, how do you know this? That website's 'history' is about as clear as a lead shield in showing his 'guilt'.
A Wiki yes for editing for the topic, clearly in the LOGS it shows NEGATIVE DEFACEMENT for the purpose of HARASSMENT. Thank you. Nice try but no dice.
The wiki was locked down at a later point so nobody could edit but they continued to hack it via whatever means and tried to remove the history logging.
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LauraBalls
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: Splagada
chill a bit serious, i dont see the huge freaking thing there... he edited a post of a troll, that's it
Which prompted the defacement of the wiki as it openly encouraged tampering and negative editing. He should be more careful of his actions in a community if minors who see such actions as a way to release their tantrums.
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d0omer
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:48:00 -
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I think your missing the point... nobody cares...
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Ediz Daxx
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:49:00 -
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Edited by: Ediz Daxx on 30/07/2006 08:49:53
Pew pew pew!
Edit: Anonymous edit not permitted Damnit =(
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LauraBalls
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: d0omer
I think your missing the point... nobody cares...
That is your opinion, CCP has been informed and the relevant ISP's have been notified of the offending IP's.
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Merv Tring
GeoTech
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:50:00 -
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I LOKED AT TEH PARTITIAL RESTOR AND ZOMG HOW WILL I HAXOR EVE NOES OH NO :( :( :( :(
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Omber Zombie
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:50:00 -
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wait, let me get this right, modding a post on the forums you run is 'encouraging cyber vandalism'?
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HappyKitten
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:51:00 -
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The original post read as simply a link to the site, now taken down.
The site contained information about the deconstruction of the eve client, in a way which, if used for any purpose (or maybe even by just existing) is a breach of the EULA.
Also, I wholeheartedly support the banning of the person responsible for thest posts:
Linkage
Linkage
Linkage
Linkage
Linkage, removed from the official forum
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:51:00 -
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Where does he encourage web defacements? And I felt editing that post was funny. Sorry if my maturity level is not up to your standards. 
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d0omer
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: LauraBalls
Originally by: d0omer
I think your missing the point... nobody cares...
That is your opinion, CCP has been informed and the relevant ISP's have been notified of the offending IP's.
Do you really think CCP care what you think? Wow you must really be important?
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: LauraBalls
Edited by: LauraBalls on 30/07/2006 08:42:40
Originally by: Merv Tring
Do you have any evidence that Sharkie did anything but ban a ridiculously annoying troll? Any evidence at all? The tiniest little scrap will do.
As you can see clearly on the website an image of his immaturity on the forums by editing customers posts to make them say something they did not say and encouraging childish behaviour by defacements which soon followed from various IP's which have been reported to CCP and the appropriate ISP abuse contacts.
I do expect many people who are fans of Eve will stand out in support of such attacks. Sad day for the EVE community I think when such defacements take place in the name of "support".
Everybody is entitled to their views but enforcing them by WEB DEFACEMENTS is not to way to go about it.
You know what, ignore my previous posts.
You LauraBells, are a moron. I'll leave it at that.
SpaceGurl is nothing but a trolling alt, and while I have stron reason to believe that you're SpaceGurl, with a bruised, troll-like ego, I honestly don't care anymore for your opinion about him.
SpaceGurl's a moron and a troll, and that site you link to has no proof of any damage done to it by CCP.
You're doing nothing but slandering Shark and CCP. I completely support any modding shark did to Spacegurl's forum post, and TBH, I wish the forum mods would do it to trolling alts to make them look like the asses they are.
Now, unless you have more than a very funny edit to a troll's thread, or a wiki whose color scheme hurts my eyes and a usless history, to show CCP 'vandalism', STFU.
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SengH
Black Omega Security
E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:52:00 -
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umm if you click on the other links i actually think thats a decompiled blue.dll ....
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LauraBalls
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:52:00 -
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Edited by: LauraBalls on 30/07/2006 08:52:36
Originally by: Omber Zombie
wait, let me get this right, modding a post on the forums you run is 'encouraging cyber vandalism'?
He could have easily just added his comment and locked it. That is what normal people do. Why did he cover it up after? His actions sparked a spate of wiki defecements from various sources as they seen his actions.
We await the response from CCP on this matter.
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Ediz Daxx
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:53:00 -
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I still dont know what "defecements" mean.. little help please? =(
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ediz Daxx
I still dont know what "defecements" mean.. little help please? =(
It means to hack a web server so you can change the start page to what you want. Hence, change its "face" to the world.
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d0omer
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:54:00 -
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Lol you had a post modified and now your crying about it??
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HappyKitten
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ediz Daxx
I still dont know what "defecements" mean.. little help please? =(
defacements means vandalism.
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HappyKitten
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: LauraBalls
Originally by: Omber Zombie
wait, let me get this right, modding a post on the forums you run is 'encouraging cyber vandalism'?
He could have easily just added his comment and locked it. That is what normal people do. Why did he cover it up after? His actions sparked a spate of wiki defecements from various sources as they seen his actions.
Uh... no, posting a thread on the forums, which is pretty much a guide to hacking the game (unless you can think of another reason) all over a forum of those who love the game and don't want it hacked probably spurred the attack. Sharkbait removed the URL for obvious reasons. As for the replaced post, pretty immature, pretty funny, entirely accurate.
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Ediz Daxx
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:56:00 -
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Cool.. i got a little smarter by this thread. ty
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d0omer
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:56:00 -
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Edited by: d0omer on 30/07/2006 08:56:25
Originally by: Omber Zombie
maybe because the link that was there was pointing to a website that is breaching the EULA ?
please go away now, you're making yourself look like an idiot.
LOL i think its gone way past that already !
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HappyKitten
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:56:00 -
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Here is an example of a defacement to the portrait of a moderator.
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Omber Zombie
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:56:00 -
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maybe because the link that was there was pointing to a website that is breaching the EULA ?
please go away now, you're making yourself look like an idiot.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: HappyKitten
Here is an example of a defacement to the portrait of a moderator.
Yeah, better put the guy who did that in jail huh....
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Michiyo Daishi
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:58:00 -
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somebody tell me this is real...
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HappyKitten
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: HappyKitten
Here is an example of a defacement to the portrait of a moderator.
Yeah, better put the guy who did that in jail huh....
He's banned
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: HappyKitten
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: HappyKitten
Here is an example of a defacement to the portrait of a moderator.
Yeah, better put the guy who did that in jail huh....
He's banned
You mean a player did that and got banned? That I dont believe.
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HappyKitten
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.30 09:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: HappyKitten
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: HappyKitten
Here is an example of a defacement to the portrait of a moderator.
Yeah, better put the guy who did that in jail huh....
He's banned
You mean a player did that and got banned? That I dont believe.
Independent events. Still, the player who made that picture is banned from the forums. Bitterness maybe 
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.07.30 09:03:00 -
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Originally by: LauraBalls
Edited by: LauraBalls on 30/07/2006 08:52:36
Originally by: Omber Zombie
wait, let me get this right, modding a post on the forums you run is 'encouraging cyber vandalism'?
He could have easily just added his comment and locked it. That is what normal people do. Why did he cover it up after? His actions sparked a spate of wiki defecements from various sources as they seen his actions.
We await the response from CCP on this matter.
If that wiki site contained information talking about how to mod the client, as a post higher up mentions, then I have a feeling the response will be something like:
"Due to your breach of the EULA, your account(s) have been terminated."
Hell I'd ban you for such insolance in this post if it were my call.
You come and make a thread bashing Sharkbait(who I'm guessing is new since he's still a '!' in the forums) basing some 'OMG CCP IS THE DEVIL WE SHOULD BOYCOTT AND SUE THEM' campaign on Shark modded a troll, who is long overdue for a permban for several posts, and then you also claim he attacked some wiki site, which anyone can modify freely, without any proof at all. That 'history', again, is as clear as a lead shield.
And your creation was solely to post this absurd thread. Maybe you think you're hiding from reprisal for your actions, but you aren't. Even if you went through the trouble of using a trial account, you'll be dealt with if you've crossed the eyes as far as CCP is concerned.
The person that needs to grow up is you/Spacegurl (the same person I'm sure).
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