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Karynn Carrion Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.19 13:46:00 - [31] Edited by: Karynn Carrion on 19/06/2007 13:51:16 Hello.Here is a set up I use.It is a bit on the expensive side compared to T2 mods but I needed to cut CPU and PG. 1x250mm Rail Gun II 1xDrone Link 2xSmall Nos 1xLarge Cap Battery II(more cap but same recharge time) 1xShadow Serpentis 10MN AB 3xDark Blood Cap rechargers 2xShadow Serpentis MAR 3xDark Blood Hardeners(mission specific) Atm I have not fitted rigs but I am thinking about Speed thingys. ps I do not use this ship against anything which deals Exp damage.Angels Grrrrrr!
Kruel Save our Souls	Posted - 2007.06.19 15:47:00 - [32] Originally by: twit brent High: Med nos Small nos 3 frig guns Med: Large peroxide cap battery 1 named AB 3 cap recharger II's Low: 2 medium armor rep II's 3 hardeners. I approve of this setup. You can use a Large Cap Battery II instead of best named. Plus, armor amount rigs will help. It's a fully sustainable setup with AB and both reps running constantly (you don't even need the nos).
Tuea	Posted - 2007.06.19 17:12:00 - [33] The problem with large cap batts is cpu, even the best named one uses 60 cpu which nerfs enough to make fitting high slots/low slots v difficult. I'd rather use 4 cap recharger II and a CCC so as not to sacrifice fitting. This setup has neutral cap without the highslots running: Heavy Ion Blaster II Heavy Ion Blaster II Heavy Ion Blaster II Small Tractor Beam I Salvager I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 10MN Afterburner II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor EM Hardener II Rigs : Capacitor Control Circuit I \ Auxiliary Nano Pump I \ I don't think a drone link is needed, you get 65km with lvl4 Heavy assault skill. Obviously swap out the active hardners depending on the mission. Unfortunately I don't think there's alot the ishtar can do better in missions than a myrmidon can do much cheaper. The myrm's higher hp/cap more low slots and repair bonus surpass the ishtars higher resists imo.
Malynin	Posted - 2007.07.14 13:29:00 - [34] Is passive shield tanking even an option on the ishie?
Itcharo Wu Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.27 08:57:00 - [35] Originally by: Malynin Is passive shield tanking even an option on the ishie? Actually yes, and that is what I do. Fielding 3 LSE2, 5 SPRs and Rigs with decent skills wield a whooping 200 Shield Regen which is enough even when tanking EM/Therm Rats. Against Kin/Therm Rats, this is basically overkill as you get easily 85% in both resistances, then you can even go with less shield regen.
GenShadowfawx	Posted - 2007.08.01 15:04:00 - [36] Realize that by passive tanking the Ishtar you are handicapping one of her most useful attributes. Sig Radius. You'll be fitting a nicer tank, but you'll also be taking quite a bit more damage than a normal HAC.
Audelia Boozebandit Gallente Dragonian Freelancers Academy	Posted - 2007.08.02 15:41:00 - [37] Here is an expensive build I drew up.... but it makes me drool and dream, wetly. The Ishniper! [1x] Dark Blood Adaptive Nano [1x] Thermic Hardener II [1x] Kinetic Hardener II [2x] Gallente Navy Med Reps [1x] Medium AB II [4x] Cap Recharger II [3x] 200mm Rail II's w/ Spike M [1x] Drone Link Augmentor [5x] Garde II's Comes out to a 71.3% EM, 88.9% Thermal, 94.5% Kinetic, 35.3% Explosive for Armor Tank 259 sustained defense, 538 DPS, -45.6 consumption +48 recharge. 607m/s top speed :D This is just a dream though... and about 20 mil SP away :( /cry
BrownVixen	Posted - 2007.08.10 20:10:00 - [38] Ok lets see I just got it and this set up still needs to be tested. Highs -3xmed 200mm Rail t2 -2xmed nos Meds -3x cap recharger t2 -1x after burner t2 -1x Med cap battery t2 Lows -Dam controll t2 -Exp armor hardener t2 (I feel the gap needs to be closed in the armor. -mission specific passive hardener -Armor rep t2 -Armor rep t2 Rigs -exp pump -capacitor rig I have been thinking to drop the cap rig add an armor repair amount right and see how that would go, in effect freeing up a low slot for another armor booster. What do you guys think?
Chris Stormrider	Posted - 2007.08.10 22:46:00 - [39] 57km (max is 60 afaik) drone range from skills has always been enough for me, so dump the augmentor, never liked the omnidirectional either. ps. it shouldn't be a problem to train 2 skills for a hac pilot, to save a slot or too ps2. btw npc BS orbit range doesn't matter for a cruiser with AB ps3. take my suggestion's with a grain of salt, i usually fly a domi ;)
fugimi	Posted - 2007.09.08 15:14:00 - [40] Edited by: fugimi on 08/09/2007 15:13:59 with EW drone interface skill u will have 54-60km range just from skills. the ishtar range bonus dosnt apply to sentry drones though and those r great in missions so i think a drone link is helpful if u gonna use sentry drones. as for passive shield tanking, it will be 2-3 times stronger then armor tanking and the sig radius will be higher but it will still be half that of a BS or passive tank drake. with 2xfield purger I rigs , 3xLSEII , 5xbeta SPR's and 2xDG inv fields i get 891 omni defence in EFT and an amazing 1931 vs guristas, with a sig radius of 252 with shield rigging skill at lvl 3. thats quite a tank. if u dont mind putting shield regen rigs on ur ishtar, and u dont care about AB and manuvering, and just wanna be a turtle shell like the drake, then by all means go passive shield tanking.

Gligan	Posted - 2007.09.09 01:45:00 - [41] Edited by: Gligan on 09/09/2007 01:47:31 Right - posting without reading leads to the exact same setup as the one already posted. On a side note don't forget to kill all the webbers first and then fly around some BS with 500 m/s so you don't get hit.
Darth Felin	Posted - 2007.09.13 14:06:00 - [42] Is it possible to use this setup for l4 missions? high: 3x 250mm Prototype 2x empty slots (maybe salvager+tractor beam) medim: 1x AB II 1x Dron Nav Computer 3x Cap Rech II low: 1x MAR II 1x DC II 3x Active Hardener II Rigs: CCC,Anti-Exposive. It can permarun everything except guns.
Aegis Celestis Gallente Hell's Horsemen	Posted - 2007.09.16 02:29:00 - [43] Edited by: Aegis Celestis on 16/09/2007 02:30:06 3x 200mm Railgun II 1x 10mn AB II 4x Cap Recharger II 2x Dark Blood/True Sansha MAR 3 hardeners to taste, i use 1x EANM II and two actives for rat spec, and 2x EANM II and one active for omni tanking. 5x Hammerhead II 5x Hobgoblin II 5x Ogre II 5x Bouncer II 2x Capcitor Control Circuit i might not need all the cap mods, but this setup can run everything at once, and tank every level 4 mission that doesnt dish out explosive damage in stomach turning amounts pretty much afk. also, im not sure about how tight the fitting is, but its no problem with AWU 4 and a 3% pg implant. with faction hardeners and A-type reppers it could probably do any mission. beyond the grave.
Fuazzole	Posted - 2007.09.30 10:12:00 - [44] An odd but working set up.. 3x Heavy Neutron Blaster II 2x Small remote reps (or whatever u want) --------- 1x 10mn AB II 1x Medium Shield Booster 2x Hardners 1x LSE --------- 1x MFSII 2x Nano II 2x Overdrive II --------- 1x Auxilary Thruster I 1x Polycarbon Engine Houseing I for me, this AB's at 1161m/s with 216dps from the 3 guns
demonfurbie Minmatar Covert Nexus Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium	Posted - 2007.10.08 01:39:00 - [45] here is what i use for my missioning setup Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Large Peroxide I Capacitor Power Cell 'Palisade' Cap Recharger I (wont fit with out) Cap Recharger II Eutectic I Capacitor Charge Array Eutectic I Capacitor Charge Array Dual 150mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon Dual 150mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon Dual 150mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon Small Tractor Beam I Salvager I [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] it all fits w/ wep upgrades to 5 and awg to 3 and ele to 5. everything perma runs q/ both cap skills to 4 so no need for ccc's in the rig slots im still debating on if i should put 2 nano pumps in.
Sol ExAstris	Posted - 2007.10.11 01:41:00 - [46] lows, 2 MARII and 3 mission specific hardeners II mids, 1 ABII and 4 Cap Recharger II high, whatever you want to fit. rails for damage at range, or blasters to finish heavy rats/stations faster, just as long as you have at least one turret to get aggro, rest is all your play style. rigs, 2 ccc's with skills at 4 and/or 5, this setup runs the tank and afterburner indefinitely. I put in a pair of explosive hardeners and a thermal hardener, got some 3% armor implants, did some decent driving, and soloed the AE bonus room in it.
Talos Munjab	Posted - 2007.11.23 18:26:00 - [47] this my fitting for my ishtar, can solo all lv4¦s cept for worlds collide(second stage) highs. 3x 250mm compressed (working on getting gal faction) 1 drone link agumentor (would like to but not enough cpu yet) 1 salvager (rarly used but fitted cause i hate empty slots) MED. 1 f90 sensor booster (so i can tell the sentrys to hit at 94km) 1 drone tracing range link (so the drones can HIT at 94km) 3 true sansha cap rechagers low. 1 corpum a type med rep (worth every penny) 1 true sansha cap relay (only need eng mang 5 to lose this and still perma run) 3 faction/t2 energised amour plating (rat specific, note only use a hardner on angel) rigs nano acc and pump. i use racical drone types one every mission fitting 5 of each size ( light,med,heavy and sentry) sentry drones are great for shotting down the long pulls, especially kin and explosive, tho the others still hit out to 50km, i do not have t2 sentrys and only t2 besrkers at them mo. my amour rep gives 554 rep every 7.42 secs (2 implants 3% ones) which means i very very seldom have to warp out and thats only on angel missions. but as notted i still cant manaage second stage of worlds collide (but only had it 2 times) have fun with it if you can afford it, its very cpu tight so t2 in most places is a big nono.
MrLobster Clawstrawphonebeer	Posted - 2007.11.24 14:24:00 - [48] It not mine, but its damn good... -Highs- 1x tractor 1x Salavger 1x Med Nos 1x Small Remote Armor Repper (good for in mission repping) 1x Small Weapon to get agro. -Mids- 1x AB II 3x Cap Rechargers 1x T2 Cap Battery -Lows (T2)- 2x MAR II 1x EXP Active Hardy 1x Therm Active Hardy 1x EANM II (Instead of a damage control as i see a few people use) -Rigs- Cap Recharge Aux Nano Pump (boosting those MAR up) Now the best place to save on CPU is in the lows 2x Shadow Serp MAR (40-50 mil each, or 2x True Sansha MAR for 100mil each) 1x Shadow/TS/Navy EXP Hardy (10-20 mil) 1x Shadow/TS/Navy Therm Hardy (10-20 mil) 1x TS/Ammar Navy EANM (22.5% resists for about 40 mil) My thoughts are if you fit a Damage control the added bonus to shield/hull resist isnt gonna help if you trying to armor tank, you might as well use a EANM which give better resists for armor tankers (Damage Control ->15%, EANM -> 22%). Damage Controls are very good for PvP, but not PvE. _________________________
demonfurbie Minmatar Covert-Nexus	Posted - 2007.12.12 16:54:00 - [49] Originally by: MrLobster It not mine, but its damn good... -Highs- 1x tractor 1x Salavger 1x Med Nos 1x Small Remote Armor Repper (good for in mission repping) 1x Small Weapon to get agro. -Mids- 1x AB II 3x Cap Rechargers 1x T2 Cap Battery -Lows (T2)- 2x MAR II 1x EXP Active Hardy 1x Therm Active Hardy 1x EANM II (Instead of a damage control as i see a few people use) -Rigs- Cap Recharge Aux Nano Pump (boosting those MAR up) Now the best place to save on CPU is in the lows 2x Shadow Serp MAR (40-50 mil each, or 2x True Sansha MAR for 100mil each) 1x Shadow/TS/Navy EXP Hardy (10-20 mil) 1x Shadow/TS/Navy Therm Hardy (10-20 mil) 1x TS/Ammar Navy EANM (22.5% resists for about 40 mil) My thoughts are if you fit a Damage control the added bonus to shield/hull resist isnt gonna help if you trying to armor tank, you might as well use a EANM which give better resists for armor tankers (Damage Control ->15%, EANM -> 22%). Damage Controls are very good for PvP, but not PvE. dcs dont stack so a dc would be better off and ive gotten drone aggro and barely warped ouot a few times the dc saved my *** more than once for a very$$$ faction fitted ship
Feyd Darkholme Caldari	Posted - 2007.12.15 10:27:00 - [50] Edited by: Feyd Darkholme on 15/12/2007 10:35:59 Originally by: Paula Roscarai Edited by: Paula Roscarai on 30/05/2007 20:48:40 this setup will EASILY tank the entire (yes entire) first level of "world collide" highs: one med nos and whatever else fits (highs arent important here, you wont use them, your drones are) meds: 4x large shield extender 2's, 1x invul field lows: 5x shield power relays t2 rigs: 2x purge try it on test if you dont believe me. You can just warp in, aggro everything and let your drones kill stuff while you watch a movie or something I tried out a setup very similar to this passive shield tank tonight. Although I used 3 LSE2's instead of 4. Also my drone skills aren't 100% done and I only have the HAC skill to 3 so far... .:Highs:. 1 Dual 150mm Railgun II (offline) 1 Tractor Beam (offline)* 1 Salvager (offline)* 1 Gistii SRAR (for repairing drones obviously) 1 Drone Link Augmentor I .:Mids:. 1 Drone Navigation Computer I 1 Omnidirectional Tracking Link 3 Large Shield Extender II .:Lows:. 5 Shield Power Relay IIs .:Rigs:. 2 Core Defense Field Purger I = I only online the salvaging modules for when I'm on a storyline mission or otherwise far away from home base so I can salvage during or after the mission if there isn't too much to salvage, without having to trek all the way back and forth to get my salvaging ship. I was getting 11,601 total shield HP with a recharge of about 190 hp per second (per the passive shield tanking formula)*. It did pretty well once I relaxed and realized the tank was going to hold out. It's very hard to get all the aggro though without some sort of weapon, but CPU is really tight and I like my drone modules. I figure if the drones are my only real form of DPS then I had better make them as good as possible. I did about six missions tonight and never ran into any trouble. My shield never went below 2/3... It's kind of boring though, just sitting there turtling, and with no AB or MWD you fly really slow. [Edit] Forgot Rigs ---------------

Raspp	Posted - 2007.12.27 06:18:00 - [51] Edited by: Raspp on 27/12/2007 06:19:11 [Ishtar, L4] Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Armor Explosive Hardener II Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator 10MN Afterburner II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Drone Navigation Computer I Regulated Neutron Phase Cannon I, Antimatter Charge M Regulated Neutron Phase Cannon I, Antimatter Charge M Regulated Neutron Phase Cannon I, Antimatter Charge M Drone Link Augmentor I [empty high slot] Polycarbon Engine Housing I Polycarbon Engine Housing I Orbit closest target 70+k my skills just around 1k/ms under AB drones deal with the room, dont take it into any mission with a Stasis tower obviously, no need to adjust setup other than that
Kartetse Basso	Posted - 2008.02.06 06:16:00 - [52] Edited by: Kartetse Basso on 06/02/2008 06:20:36 Hi! Another passive shiled rig and would be keen to hear your thoughts. High Slots >3x Blasters >2x Drone Link Augmenters Med slots > Invulnerability Field II > Large shield extender II > Large shield extender II > Sensor booster > AB II Low slots 4x Power Diagnostic System II 1x CPU booster Mods >Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I >Capacitor Control Circuit I (Thinking of changing this to another Shield booster) So I've turned it into a shield tank. This gives near 9000HP shield and shield percentages up between 70%-90%. Have 4 X Power Diagnostic System II on low slots so shield recharge quick enough any way. Even though higher damage per hit comes through your shield, the shield has more than 3 times the HP. Happy to hear your thoughts!
Balamesh	Posted - 2008.02.06 09:08:00 - [53] Edited by: Balamesh on 06/02/2008 09:09:53 I'm pretty noob-ish in guns but i have some good drone skills so for level 4 missions i use this: Hi: 2x t2 med nosferatu Med: 10mn t2 afterburner, 3x t2 cap recharger, 1x omnidirectional tracking link Low: 3x t2 active hardeners, 2x t2 medium armor rep Rigs: Capacitor control circuit I Auxiliary nano pump I Drones: Either t2 wasp with t2 vespa or t2 ogres with t2 hammerhead + 5 t2 heavy armor or shield maintenance bots (support for others if its needed) Been fine with that in many lvl 4 missions. I've got about 1 mill sp in gunnery and 4 mill in drones.. so if u lack in gunnery skills like me, try that.. Im using 312/256 cpu and 808/875 powergrid and there are still 3 hi slots left (yea, tried guns but id rather fit drone link augmentors or another t2 small nos.. i didnt really need it yet though)
ElBurro	Posted - 2008.02.06 10:25:00 - [54] Edited by: ElBurro on 06/02/2008 10:28:23 Edited by: ElBurro on 06/02/2008 10:27:57 I used to use this for Lvl 4's until I saw the EOS which could do the same thing but better until it got nerfed so hard, then I moved onto the Kronos as I had finished Large T2 Rails. The only issue with this is its a bit slow, relying solely on drones for damage, which can be a pain if there are nasty trigger spawns. Its a full T2 fit with perma tank, which needs good skills to run, but is worth training for. Most of it is obvious and the Armour resists make it virtually an omni tank for any mission. The only mission I lost this on was when I ran Recon 1,2 & 3 AFK and came back to a pod on Part 3 Punch it into EFT and see what you think [Ishtar, Tank] Lows Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Armor Explosive Hardener II Meds Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 10MN Afterburner II Highs Medium 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction Small Tractor Beam I Salvager I Salvager I Medium Beam Laser I, Radio S Rigs Auxiliary Nano Pump I Capacitor Control Circuit I Drones Ogre II x5 (Slow, but Wasps are cool too) Hammerhead II x5 Obviously fit faction/complex kit as you can afford it, with the Armour Reps being first target. The only problem I had with this fit is how far the Armour bar sways back and forth under heavy attack, which can some times be a little scary!
Schnitzar	Posted - 2008.02.07 01:00:00 - [55] Right, the original post is pretty old now so I'll post my fit with faction gear. Highs: 3x Dual 150mm Rails Meds: 1x Domination 10mn Afterburner 1x Large Capacitor Battery II 3x Cap Recharger II Lows: 2x Dark Blood MAR 3x Active Hardeners / Dark Blood EANM Rigs: 1x Auxiliary Nano Pump 1x Capacitor Control Circuit At least one of the 3 hardeners needs to be faction because CPU is so tight. I sacrificed using bigger guns and filling my last two high slots so that I could get the cap battery on, it makes a much bigger difference to my recharge rate than a cap recharger does. I use tech II drones for whatever damage type is needed. EFT says I deal 505 DPS and when Drone Interfacing V finishes in a few days that should be a shade over 550. As for the tank... I worked it out at about 1250 DPS for kin/therm which is the most common for me. It gets a bit harder when Explosive damage is involved hence I fitted the armor rig even though it is overkill for most missions I do.
Ezekiel Sulastin Gallente Eve University	Posted - 2008.02.07 01:34:00 - [56] Edited by: Ezekiel Sulastin on 07/02/2008 01:35:29 Omnitanking for missions makes kitten cry. It takes all of five seconds to swap hardeners; just do it! I've run three fits thus far. I've had a great deal of success with two of them, so I'll post my first armor and my shield. Armor: Medium Armor Rep II 3x Rat Specific Hardeners 1600mm RT plate 10mn AB II 3x Cap Recharger II 1x Drone Navi Comp w/e in highs, at least one gun CCC rig Aux Nano Pump You don't NEED the rigs, but they help. Specifically, the CCC rig allows you to drop the Cap Recharger and add the drone mod. With this you draw aggression then orbit a fixed point at 10-20 km to reduce incoming DPS. The plate's there if you get webbed. I've used it in everything - even WC 2nd room both sides - and only had to warp out in the AE bonus room. Shield: 5x Shield Power Relay II 4x Large Shield Extender II 1x Hardener II (With perfect shield skills - and I mean L5 everything - using a passive amp in place of extender helps more ...) 3x 150mm Railgun II 3x Core Defence Field Purgers Throw in cheap hardwirings for fun ^^ This is my AFK mission BBQ boat. With it, I can take about 840 Angel DPS, 1300 Serpentis DPS (woot), and nearly 2000 Guristas DPS (I like big numbers). The guns aren't needed that much, and since you can permatank nearly anything, you can just draw room aggro, release your drones, and come back from homework to a nice, empty room ... (T2 heavies and drone int V help in that regard) I'm plugging away on a sentrydrone setup at the moment that supports both permatanking and 2x drone omni mods ... getting the Meditation reppers from COSMOS helps a great deal for that one!
Isralien United Legion	Posted - 2008.04.16 03:35:00 - [57] Ishtar for deepspace ratting: Hi: 2xSalvager, 1xTractorBeam, 1xCivGun, 1xProtoCloak Med: 10MN t2 AB, 3xt2 CapRech, large t2 cap battery low: 2x t2 Med armorrep, Amarr Navy EAMN, 2x Amarr Navy/DB Expl. Hardeners rigs: 2x t1 armorrep amount can run reps+ab forever, with 4/5(rech/amount) skills in capacitor possible to use tractor+salvagers "on the fly" hardeners can be swapped to npc-specific. without fatcion stuff can't be fitted due lack of cpu, maybe possible with cpu implant. primary tactic is: you can rat everywhere, you don't need to set up any towers, coz you have cloak to hide from enemies, loot only meta4/faction/officer items, salvage all. possible improvements: install better armorreps(meditation or better), maybe better hardeners, but with current setup it tanks best resps in angel space(3x serafim + hacs), so i can't see reason to improve it
Nakamura San Caldari Das Duesburg ATATAT Corp	Posted - 2008.04.16 14:21:00 - [58] ishtar has small signature and good native armor resists, also it has good speed with AB. it has perfect cap recharge time if you fit at least medium cap battery. cap is enough to run 2 reppers non-stop in that case but armor amount is not so good so we have to fit some plate med: AB, med cap battery low: 2 reppers + 800 plate that is the core of mission-ishtar. Fit any other modules according to your skills and wishes but modules described above is a must.
Dearest Wish State War Academy	Posted - 2008.04.16 15:04:00 - [59] Edited by: Dearest Wish on 16/04/2008 15:05:47 True Sansha Armor Thermic Hardener True Sansha Armor Thermic Hardener True Sansha Armor Kinetic Hardener Armor Kinetic Hardener II Centum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Domination 10MN Afterburner Medium Capacitor Battery II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Drone Link Augmentor I Salvager I Salvager I Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Nanobot Accelerator I Nanobot Accelerator I Only worth using the Ishtar for Guristas/Serpentis missions. For all other missions use a domi with T2 sentries, it'll be quicker and much less painful. This tanks 1450 DPS (Kin/Therm). It's what I use for breezing through Lvl 4 Guri/Serp missions. Everything perma runs except the tractor/salvagers.


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