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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2014.09.10 09:52:00 -
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Hello everyone,
We would like to remind the EVE community of our stance regarding the usage of EVE Online and assets, characters and items from within the game environment as leverage for the purpose of real life harassment.
As outlined in our previous announcement, this type of behavior lies in clear breach of our End User License Agreement, and as such we have a zero tolerance approach when dealing with these cases.
Our stance regarding this type of behavior has not changed since the last announcement, and any individuals who are found to be engaging in such behavior will be met with disciplinary action against their game accounts in accordance with our Terms of Service.
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CCP Falcon || Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2014.09.11 02:22:00 -
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Titus Tallang wrote:can we expect some clear-cut rules on what you would classify as 'real life harassment'?
It isn't our job to dictate to people how to maintain a base standard of human decency toward one another, and we're not going to do so.
The bottom line is that it's down to members of the community to know where the line crosses from common decency to harassment. We will not draw a line in the sand so that people can skirt on the edge of it and bend the rules as much as possible.
This isn't a debate about what constitutes "harassment". If you're not familiar with the word, find the definition in a dictionary and that will satisfy your question.
What we will do, is continue to use best judgement on a case by case basis to ensure that real life harassment is kept out of the game, and ensure that those who choose to involve themselves in such activities are no longer permitted to be part of our community.
Cut and dried, that's all we have to say on the matter.
CCP Falcon || Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2014.09.11 16:57:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Of course, it is easier to whine about the 'grey areas' then to actually help CCP remove them.
It also seems that it's very easy to whine about being banned rather than using a shred of common sense to maintain the most basic level of decency and etiquette when interacting with people in EVE.
Yes, EVE is designed to be harsh and unforgiving, but there's a blatant difference between that and outright harassment.
It's quite clear to anyone with even half a brain that those people who're saying that the lines are blurred and they don't understand the definition of harassment are looking for clarification so that they know how much they can bend the rules and push the boundaries before we'll take action, with a view to using any statement we make as ammunition for an appeal should they fall foul of the rules and be slapped with account action.
Sorry, but my original statement still stands. CCP will use best judgement on a case by case basis to ensure that real life harassment is kept out of EVE Online.
CCP Falcon || Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.09.11 17:40:00 -
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Closed for a quick clean.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
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Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.09.11 20:29:00 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Closed for a quick clean. Quick he said! Tsk,,,,,
Anyway, ISD Dorrim Barstorlode had to do some RL things and as to not harass him, I volunteered to take over.
I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them (and edited some others). As always I let some edge cases stay.
Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The Rules:
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
11. Discussion of warnings and bans is prohibited.(Only applied to specific named bans in this case. ISD Ezwal.)
Such matters shall remain private between CCP and the involved user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through email or private messaging. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including support ticket responses and emails) received from any member of CCP staff.
27. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster.
30. Posts that distort the forum layout are prohibited.
Posts that are deliberately designed to distort the layout of the EVE Online forums, or character names that are of an inappropriate length and stretch the forums will be removed. This kind of behavior is deemed as being in opposition to the community spirit that CCP would like to promote, and posts of this nature will be deleted. Users who engage in this type of behavior may face temporary suspension or permanent revocation of their forum posting privileges.
31. Abuse of CCP employees and ISD volunteers is prohibited.
CCP operate a zero tolerance policy on abuse of CCP employees and ISD volunteers. This includes but is not limited to personal attacks, trolling, GÇ£outingGÇ¥ of CCP employee or ISD volunteer player identities, and the use of any former player identities when referring to the aforementioned parties.
Our forums are designed to be a place where players and developers can exchange ideas in a polite and friendly manner for the betterment of EVE Online. Players who attack or abuse employees of CCP, or ISD volunteers, will be permanently banned from the EVE Online forums across all their accounts with no recourse, and may also be subject to action against their game accounts.
Thread re-opened.
ISD Ezwal
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Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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ISD Ezwal
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Posted - 2014.09.11 22:30:00 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.
The Rules:
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
ISD Ezwal
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ISD Ezwal
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Posted - 2014.09.11 23:14:00 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.
The Rules:
2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
ISD Ezwal
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ISD Ezwal
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Posted - 2014.09.12 00:09:00 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.
The Rules:
12. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited.
The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a petition under the Community & Forums Category.
31. Abuse of CCP employees and ISD volunteers is prohibited.
CCP operate a zero tolerance policy on abuse of CCP employees and ISD volunteers. This includes but is not limited to personal attacks, trolling, GÇ£outingGÇ¥ of CCP employee or ISD volunteer player identities, and the use of any former player identities when referring to the aforementioned parties.
Our forums are designed to be a place where players and developers can exchange ideas in a polite and friendly manner for the betterment of EVE Online. Players who attack or abuse employees of CCP, or ISD volunteers, will be permanently banned from the EVE Online forums across all their accounts with no recourse, and may also be subject to action against their game accounts.
ISD Ezwal
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.09.12 19:54:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:La Rynx wrote:There is no roulette.
Yes, lets talk about a Senior GM dictating that telling people your alt is you will get you banned. Wrong.
ISD Ezwal
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.09.12 21:29:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:But this is all wildly off topic, and I would have thought that the ISDs wouldn't dive into a discussion solely to engage in an off-topic tangent.  Even worse, deleting posts to make it seem as if they never happened. If you delete posts, you should certainly post that you are doing so and why to at least maintain some semblance of transparency. You know, just like every ISD does always (or at least, I hope). True on both accounts, my apologies.
Yes, I am in the process of cleaning this thread and forgot to post as such as we normally do.
Thread temporarily locked for some cleaning.
ISD Ezwal
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.09.13 15:26:00 -
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If reading and moderating this thread has shown me one thing it is that having very specific rules for defined circumstances is disregarded as irrelevant by at least a part of the community, regardless which side of the fence they are on in this discussion.
Please people, if you find someone breaking the rules you can not use that as excuse to break the rules yourself! Concerning the forum, report the rule breaking posts to us!
I can assure you, each and every reported post is looked at and acted upon by CCL. Each and every reported post that contains (very) offensive personal attacks or other severe breaches of the forum rules is then brought to the attention of CCP, including links, explanations and context. Do you always see the result of that later? No. But rest assured we do not take such matters lightly and neither does CCP.
I am locking this thread as for a long string of pages, nothing new is brought to the discussion and the majority of posts are rule breaking in one way or the other.
That said, reported or not, all posts posted since the last moderation post on page 42 will be reviewed and if deemed necessary, acted upon in the way described above.
As I am aware some will not like or endorse this course of action: If you are perceiving a problem with ISD behaviour on the forum or are disagreeing with the way (your) posts are being moderated, please feel free to read the CCP policies and follow the procedure found under the header 'Complaints'.
Thread locked.
ISD Ezwal
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