How is it a huge private isk fauset when literally everyone has access to them in high sec?

I think I'm going to have to agree with baltec1 on the logistics thing. Logistics in combat turns todays combat almost into a 'winner-takes-all' scenario. A smaller force does not engage the larger group because they know the damage they can cause is minimal since the logistics can rep beyond their dps. Its the same reason that carrier fleets are so powerful; huge amounts of reps over long distances, relatively high ehp, higher-end dps compared to subcaps and unsieged dreads. its a very versatile ship performing well in all of its roles.

We can take one hypothetical situation and see the predicted outcomes when you remove or reduce logistics (assuming both fleets decide to engage and all other things equal/constant):
Fleet A has 250 members with 40 logistics
Fleet B has 100 members with 20 logistics

Scenario 1
Fleet A has enough dps/alpha to destroy every ship in the enemy fleet
Fleet B does not have enough dps or reps to destroy enemy ships or stay on the field

Result 1
Fleet A destroys Fleet B with minimal losses
Fleet B suffers massive losses and loses the strategic objective

Now lets reduce the effectiveness of logistics directly on the combat site.

Scenario 2
Fleet A has 250 members with 40 logistics
Fleet B has 100 members and elected to leave logistics behind in an attempt to maximize impact

Result 2
Fleet A destroys Fleet B while losing an almost equivalent amount of ships (90-110)
Fleet B is destroyed entirely, but manages to damage enemy fleet in a meaningful way

The first scenario makes a victory almost entirely binary and causes fleet commanders to make decisions such as not even showing up since they know they will lose without much impact. Bored attacker grinding a structure and a blue-balled defender.

The second scenario ends with a heavily damaged attacker, leaving them vulnerable to other entities lying in wait or a second fleet reformed to fight again with a better comparative advantage. This also means a fleet very far away from a base of operations is going to suffer from loss of ships without ability to easily re-ship. It doesn't remove the advantage of numbers and improves the effect of smaller fleets intending to do damage to their opponents before going down in a blaze of glory.

I think that logistics still has a role in fleets, just not on the battlefield itself. I imagine logistics on subcaps and carriers can be repurposed to be used elsewhere.

But what happened to

Not only was the system they died in cyno jammed, the entire constellation was cyno jammed from an Incursion.

There were no enemy capitals or supers on those dreadnought killmails. And for all the talk of being able to crush the goons and keep them out if it wasn't for jump drives and titan bridges, we still got in and killed some capitals.

We hellcamp systems for a week, setting off 2 hours before a timer is up is no issue for us. Hell, we played movies in the fountain war in which fleets spent 12+ hours attacking towers.

So we fix EVE by getting the 80k people in null who won to quit and move on to another game? Great plan.

Personally, I would *love* to see capitals as part of roaming fleets.

You claim to want to help the small groups in null... Why not listen to them?

Check out those who have responded.. and what size of alliance/corp they belong to.. see what they suggest.

If I could ask for just one thing.. don't mess with logistic ships. jump freighters specifically. no one will hop drop in a freighter anyway. so why not keep them as is. so people can keep the life blood of small alliances moving?