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Tippia
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Posted - 2014.09.12 11:27:00 -
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Cebraio wrote:Even worse: This "creative use of game mechanics" (read: exploit) only hurts the small entities. That's the most nonsensical GÇ£think of the childrenGÇ¥ I've ever heard.
Exploits hurt everyone. If you think otherwise, you haven't actually made any thinking at all.
Oh, and exploits do not automatically lead to reimbursements (or bans), so that's not really any evidence in either direction.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.09.12 11:47:00 -
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Diivil wrote:This kind of exploit doesn't hurt everyone because who is going to drop 15 titans to bump out a NC. or CFC or PL titan? It hurts everyone because it is an exploit.
It hurts everyone because exploits work the same for everyone.
It's really that simple.
Quote:If there are no bans or reimbursements from using an exploit then CCP must GǪnothing. Exploits and any investigations thereof are entirely between CCP and the (supposed) exploiters.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Tippia
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:04:00 -
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Diivil wrote:I have some trouble understanding this so would you clarify. It doesn't get any clearer than what I already wrote.
Quote:Are you saying that using exploits is fine Try reading what I actually wrote.
Quote:Of course it's CCP's job to inform the playerbase if the players are doing something that is not allowed No, it is not. In fact, their own rules pretty much prohibits them from discussing the outcome of an investigation.
They can occasionally give players a courtesy warning that they will consider some tactics as exploits, but that is something completely separate from explaining why there were or weren't any bans or reimbursements after any given case.
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Tippia
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:50:00 -
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Cebraio wrote:If that's the most nonsensical you've heard, you are blessed. I've had to put up with worse **** in real life.
Also thanks for the ad hominem, just because I have a different opinion. I tend to just laugh whenever someone brings up a GÇ£think of the childrenGÇ¥ argument so I tend to not hear much in that category of nonsense to begin with. And it wasn't an ad hominment because you have a difference of opinion GÇö it was (at most) a reductio ad absurdum because it's such a silly misrepresentation and miscategorisation of the problem.
Quote:What I meant to say though is that this exploit hurts small entities in particular. Our Titans are in no danger of being bumped by small entities, but the other way around very much. Also we have APEX FORCE (TM TMC) to provide at least a threat against bigger entities. That would have been a (slightly) better thing to say, but it's still a pretty silly argument.
Exploits are inherently bad GÇö whether or not they hurt some class of players more than others is pretty much completely irrelevant. Sloppily drowning the argument in GÇ£think of the childrenGÇ¥ rhetoric only lessens the impact of why it needs to be fixed.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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