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BlackDragonShadow	Posted - 2006.08.03 19:23:00 - [1] I'm really interested in my leaderships skills and I've been learning a lot of them recently. I like the way it makes the whole team harder to kill. I've been thinking about gearing up to get a command ship and the agument that with an implant later down the road. The only thing is that to simply even GET the Command ship would take me roughly four months, not to mention getting all my leaderships skills to level 5 and possibly the advanced ones as well. So I'm asking the general EVE puplic what do you guys think? Is it worth it having a skilled command ship piolt or not? I run a lot of level 4's with friends so that's why I'm learning the leadersihp skills in the first place. Should I go all the way? Touched by his noodly appendage. Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
Crackfarmer Turbulent Subversion	Posted - 2006.08.03 19:36:00 - [2] It's worth it, yes. Both for yourself and for any gangmembers you happen to fly with. They are absolutely brilliant. Don't let this be you
Micia N.A.S.A. Cobra Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.03 20:10:00 - [3] 4 days left 'til I can fly them. They'd better be worth the training. _______ Experience the good life in pirate-free Empire Space
Verone	Posted - 2006.08.03 20:39:00 - [4] Originally by: Micia 4 days left 'til I can fly them. They'd better be worth the training. They Are. VETO RECRUITMENT
HappyKitten Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.08.03 20:52:00 - [5] Bah, I can only fly the caldari command ships Lucky other race bastards
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.03 20:52:00 - [6] So what race commandships would you say are the best? Gallente? --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
uberaltscout	Posted - 2006.08.03 20:53:00 - [7] sleipnir ftw tbh - I am an alt.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.03 20:54:00 - [8] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/08/2006 20:54:51 Originally by: uberaltscout sleipnir ftw tbh I hear its very good yeah. But is it the best? =) Edit: And yeah, im sure there is no best. But still I would like to hear your opinions. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.03 20:54:00 - [9] Originally by: HappyKitten Bah, I can only fly the caldari command ships Lucky other race bastards My question was genuine actually... is the gallente the best? I have no idea. :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
HappyKitten Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.08.03 20:57:00 - [10] Edited by: HappyKitten on 03/08/2006 20:57:25 I don't know who has the best, but 3 races have very good ships. IMO, gallente have the best fleet command (with the Eos) and tie for the best general PvP fleet command (Astarte and Absolution). Sleipnir wins for gatecamping, but not quite as awesome (at least IMO) as the other two. That isn't to say it isn't awesome though. There are just my opinons, of course. (boost the nighthawk!) (eagle/moa/vulture need another turret a piece)

Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.03 20:58:00 - [11] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/08/2006 20:58:57 Originally by: HappyKitten Edited by: HappyKitten on 03/08/2006 20:57:25 I don't know who has the best, but 3 races have very good ships. IMO, gallente have the best fleet command (with the Eos) and tie for the best general PvP fleet command (Astarte and Absolution). Sleipnir wins for gatecamping, but not quite as awesome (at least IMO) as the other two. That isn't to say it isn't awesome though. There are just my opinons, of course. (boost the nighthawk!) (eagle/moa/vulture need another turret a piece) ' Thanks :) Edit: Im very bored, thats why i ask these spamming questions... --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
SengH Black Omega Security E.R.A	Posted - 2006.08.03 21:01:00 - [12] lol @ gallente having the best fleet command. Eh but what do I know.
Micia N.A.S.A. Cobra Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.03 21:02:00 - [13] Of the two Minnie command ships, I'm going for the Claymore over the Sleipnir. Running three warlinks at once sounds like good support. I believe that the Sleipnir can only activate one at a time. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong about that) _______ Experience the good life in pirate-free Empire Space
HappyKitten Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.08.03 21:04:00 - [14] Originally by: SengH lol @ gallente having the best fleet command. Eh but what do I know. Well, what do you think is?
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.03 21:06:00 - [15] Originally by: HappyKitten Originally by: SengH lol @ gallente having the best fleet command. Eh but what do I know. Well, what do you think is? Its a trend to not back up claims in these forums. :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
SengH Black Omega Security E.R.A	Posted - 2006.08.03 21:08:00 - [16] Edited by: SengH on 03/08/2006 21:08:35 Originally by: Micia Of the two Minnie command ships, I'm going for the Claymore over the Sleipnir. Running three warlinks at once sounds like good support. I believe that the Sleipnir can only activate one at a time. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong about that) you dont run 3. You run 6 Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: HappyKitten Originally by: SengH lol @ gallente having the best fleet command. Eh but what do I know. Well, what do you think is? Its a trend to not back up claims in these forums. :) LOL.. check ships and mods
Deja Thoris Contraband Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.03 21:08:00 - [17] Originally by: HappyKitten Bah, I can only fly the caldari command ships Lucky other race bastards I can fly amarr and caldari, 3 weeks to a t2 sleipnir
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.03 21:10:00 - [18] Originally by: SengH LOL.. check ships and mods I know. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Micia N.A.S.A. Cobra Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.03 21:12:00 - [19] Originally by: SengH Edited by: SengH on 03/08/2006 21:08:35 Originally by: Micia Of the two Minnie command ships, I'm going for the Claymore over the Sleipnir. Running three warlinks at once sounds like good support. I believe that the Sleipnir can only activate one at a time. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong about that) you dont run 3. You run 6 Dang! Six at once? I guess the description for Claymore is off, in Item Database. Quote: Role Bonus: 99% reduction in Warfare Link module CPU need. Can use 3 Warfare Link modules simultaneously. Sleipnir the same, too? _______ Experience the good life in pirate-free Empire Space
SengH Black Omega Security E.R.A	Posted - 2006.08.03 21:13:00 - [20] Originally by: Micia Originally by: SengH Edited by: SengH on 03/08/2006 21:08:35 Originally by: Micia Of the two Minnie command ships, I'm going for the Claymore over the Sleipnir. Running three warlinks at once sounds like good support. I believe that the Sleipnir can only activate one at a time. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong about that) you dont run 3. You run 6 Dang! Six at once? I guess the description for Claymore is off, in Item Database. Quote: Role Bonus: 99% reduction in Warfare Link module CPU need. Can use 3 Warfare Link modules simultaneously. Sleipnir the same, too? No +3 command procs in your mids.

Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.03 21:23:00 - [21] Originally by: SengH No +3 command procs in your mids. Edit: Eh what do i know about gang mods. It doesnt matter anymore anyways since im not renewing my sub at the end of this month. And no you cannot have my stuff. Would love to know the reasons for it... but maybe you dont want to share. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Eximius Josari Shadow Reavers	Posted - 2006.08.03 21:38:00 - [22] Originally by: SengH Edited by: SengH on 03/08/2006 21:18:13 Originally by: Micia Dang! Six at once? I guess the description for Claymore is off, in Item Database. Quote: Role Bonus: 99% reduction in Warfare Link module CPU need. Can use 3 Warfare Link modules simultaneously. Sleipnir the same, too? No +3 command procs in your mids. Edit: Eh what do i know about gang mods. It doesnt matter anymore anyways since im not renewing my sub at the end of this month. And no you cannot have my stuff. **** your stuff, can I have your corpse? Victory is the weakness of the enemy.
Cadman Weyland Millennium E.R.A	Posted - 2006.08.03 21:58:00 - [23] U leaving game SengH that sux mate Director of Bubbles and Noobs
BlackDragonShadow	Posted - 2006.08.03 23:59:00 - [24] Wow thanks for the imput guys. Would you say that there are any moduals that would be better then others? Touched by his noodly appendage. Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
gfldex	Posted - 2006.08.04 00:59:00 - [25] Originally by: Jim McGregor Its a trend to not back up claims in these forums. :) That's because of all those Caldari. They try to play the forum in easy mode too. -- $ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill\|lost my ship\|gank\|gate camp\|Verone/;'
Nerd Rage	Posted - 2006.08.04 01:07:00 - [26] Claymore for a 5000 dps tank
LUGAL MOP'N'GLO	Posted - 2006.08.04 03:01:00 - [27] Yea command ships are awesome. But I think they need a boost. /me strokes freshly waxed Vulture
SengH Black Omega Security E.R.A	Posted - 2006.08.04 04:16:00 - [28] Edited by: SengH on 04/08/2006 04:19:00 Edited by: SengH on 04/08/2006 04:17:44 Originally by: LUGAL MOP'N'GLO Yea command ships are awesome. But I think they need a boost. /me strokes freshly waxed Vulture You cant honestly say that after looking at the SS I posted. I'd hate to think how overpowered they would be if they got buffed anymore. Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: SengH No +3 command procs in your mids. Edit: Eh what do i know about gang mods. It doesnt matter anymore anyways since im not renewing my sub at the end of this month. And no you cannot have my stuff. Would love to know the reasons for it... but maybe you dont want to share. Not gonna hijack this thread, but I dont agree with the direction that CCP is taking the game. There is no place in EVE anymore at the alliance level/0.0 for a single account person who wants to just log in for 30mins and have fun (no ratting is not fun and solo pvp is pretty fubared with ECM). Grinding hour long missions isnt exactly fun either. I find myself falling asleep halfway through l4s. A game should be fun not a second job. Grinding for a payoff is not an excuse. The "grind" should be fun as its a game, not a monotonus repetitive torture. Fleet movement has become more of a chore as time has passed, a simple 10 jump trip that used to take 20 mins tops now takes almost an hour due to crashes/lagwarps(even with staggered jumpins). The direction CCP is taking Alliance life does not interest me at all. Yes building outposts and colonizing planets is cool. But what about the 0.0 guy who just wants to log on and do something for 30mins besides mining and ratting but just doesnt feel like risking a ship in a solo pvp op as its better used for other tasks. ATM nothing. Oh wait there is POS fueling.... I think the final nail in the coffin was probably the degredation of the community as a whole. When I started playing EVE, I mined pyrox in niyabainen and shuttled between arant/jita/yulai with my probe and there was a grand total of 7 other ppl in the same system. Everyone was pretty cordial to each other in general and it was a pretty relaxed atmosphere and people were relatively friendly. Nowadays if you see jita local, its like watching jerry springer. People are taking this game way too seriously for something thats just supposed to be a lesiure activity. CCP in all their fancy stuff on the drawing board and planned for kali has forgotten that games are supposed to be fun. I dont see any of this changing at all anytime Soon(tm), so im leaving. I expect alot of people to disagree with me but you asked my reasons and here they are.
Bohoba Caldari Draconis Navitas Aeterna Pure.	Posted - 2006.08.04 05:00:00 - [29] Have to say I agree EVE has gone astray and myself have thought about leaving myself, fleet battles are joke and lags out, oh well have to wait and see how I feel in a few days would be 3 accounts leaving eve maybe find a new space game Originally by: SengH Edited by: SengH on 04/08/2006 04:19:00 Edited by: SengH on 04/08/2006 04:17:44 Originally by: LUGAL MOP'N'GLO Yea command ships are awesome. But I think they need a boost. /me strokes freshly waxed Vulture You cant honestly say that after looking at the SS I posted. I'd hate to think how overpowered they would be if they got buffed anymore. Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: SengH No +3 command procs in your mids. Edit: Eh what do i know about gang mods. It doesnt matter anymore anyways since im not renewing my sub at the end of this month. And no you cannot have my stuff. Would love to know the reasons for it... but maybe you dont want to share. Not gonna hijack this thread, but I dont agree with the direction that CCP is taking the game. There is no place in EVE anymore at the alliance level/0.0 for a single account person who wants to just log in for 30mins and have fun (no ratting is not fun and solo pvp is pretty fubared with ECM). Grinding hour long missions isnt exactly fun either. I find myself falling asleep halfway through l4s. A game should be fun not a second job. Grinding for a payoff is not an excuse. The "grind" should be fun as its a game, not a monotonus repetitive torture. Fleet movement has become more of a chore as time has passed, a simple 10 jump trip that used to take 20 mins tops now takes almost an hour due to crashes/lagwarps(even with staggered jumpins). The direction CCP is taking Alliance life does not interest me at all. Yes building outposts and colonizing planets is cool. But what about the 0.0 guy who just wants to log on and do something for 30mins besides mining and ratting but just doesnt feel like risking a ship in a solo pvp op as its better used for other tasks. ATM nothing. Oh wait there is POS fueling.... I think the final nail in the coffin was probably the degredation of the community as a whole. When I started playing EVE, I mined pyrox in niyabainen and shuttled between arant/jita/yulai with my probe and there was a grand total of 7 other ppl in the same system. Everyone was pretty cordial to each other in general and it was a pretty relaxed atmosphere and people were relatively friendly. Nowadays if you see jita local, its like watching jerry springer. People are taking this game way too seriously for something thats just supposed to be a lesiure activity. CCP in all their fancy stuff on the drawing board and planned for kali has forgotten that games are supposed to be fun. I dont see any of this changing at all anytime Soon(tm), so im leaving. I expect alot of people to disagree with me but you asked my reasons and here they are. Get Into the Game it makes it fun for all
Lardarz B'stard Amarr Out Of Exile	Posted - 2006.08.04 06:03:00 - [30] The absolution is probably my favourite ship at the moment. Finally a use for a high charisma attribute. Just a shame it looks like a shiny parrot. Exiles Recruitment



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