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Amarr Citizen 000001 Lazerhawks 1	Posted - 2014.09.18 03:06:00 - [1] - Quote ---Classified--- This is an invasion post, we're invading someone! Greetings fellow spaceship pilots. We're going on an invasion on the weekend of the 6th September. The target? Quebec United Legion's C6 Pulsar. "Why?" They have over 50+ SMAs on 4 Large Towers, with no hardeners online. ---End Message--- On September 6th we started our siege of Quebec United LegionGÇÖs home wormhole. Despite QUL hiring both Surely You're Joking (SYJ) and Disavowed, they couldnGÇÖt regain system control and ended up self destructing over 42 billion Isk in ships. By the 8th we had pillaged all their towers for almost 35 billion Isk and setup log-on traps to catch the loot-filled carriers they logged off in. After just a couple weeks, weGÇÖve further destroyed just under 77 billion Isk; catching 3 of their carriers trying to escape. 37 Hours until The Harvest After a few weeks of intel gathering and preparation; we decided to start the siege. With only 4 towers and 53 SMAs, the QUL system was a ripe target. It took only a few days to seed over a dozen capital ships into the QUL home system, for which they were none the wiser. On the 6th of September our wing of dreadnoughts logged in and began reinforcing their towers. Without any hardeners online, all four of the QUL towers were reinforced during the first hour. Once the towers were reinforced, large bubbles were onlined canvassing the perimeter to prevent ships inside the shield from warping of. With our tackle on standby, it would be incredibly difficult for them to evacuate anything during the siege. The first QUL members that logged in, immediately logged off. During the first few hours, a single Kronos did try to escape with a MJD. The pilot made it to a safe, but without probes or a cloak, and all outgoing connections firmly under our control, they didnGÇÖt get far. 23 Hours until the Harvest Quebec United Legion declined our 100 billion Isk ransom when we contacted them. Later on, when they saw the full force of the fleet sieging them, they asked for more time to come up with the ransom. We declined their offer, and proceeded to camp them inside their towers. While normally the most boring part of the siege, we were lucky enough to have the Alliance Tournament to watch all weekend. The sleepover wasnGÇÖt without kills however, as a pair of Paladins running C5 sites didnGÇÖt see our Sabre until it was too late. Some of our pilots decided to take the GÇ£time offGÇ¥ to practice their graphic design skills, creating wonderful portraits for our leadership. Only a few QUL members tried to keep us busy during this time; sending out scanners that never made it to k-space. Others QUL pilots attempted to vacate their towers, but our ships were quick to intercept them, pushing them back into their force fields. One brave QUL pilot did, however, decide they wouldnGÇÖt be held hostage and lost their Tengu in glorious combat. 3 Hours until the Harvest As the timers on the towers ticked closer to zero, a massive squad of interceptors came through the mass-crit static we were guarding. A few interceptors were shot down and podded, but most made it into the safety of the QUL towers. We assumed that QUL h...
Amarr Citizen 000001 Lazerhawks 1	Posted - 2014.09.18 03:06:00 - [2] - Quote 2 Hours until the Harvest As we closed up holes and repaired bubbles around the towers, we noticed one of their ships was named GÇÿasdfrewqGÇÖ. The name didnGÇÖt follow their normal naming convention and we thought one of the pilots might have accidently changed his ship name to the towerGÇÖs force-field password. We loaded a couple T3s into a carrier and tried jumping into their towers with our pods. We successfully landed right in the middle of their ejected ships and immediately liberated 2 Moro and a Phoenix. After attempting to bump out the hostile capital ships that were still piloted by hostiles, QUL frantically changed the passwords. This caused many ships, (including a piloted Moros who was fired hundreds of 100kms away from the tower), to be ejected from the shields. After grabbing what we wanted, and shooting what we didn't, our dreadnoughts were warped up to where our tackle was holding the Moros hostage, (now several hundred kms away). The Moros pilot didn't want to trade his pod for the ship, so we graciously accepted the killmail of both. 1 Hour until the Harvest Once QUL had finally accepted their fate, the fireworks began. Billions and billions of Isk in ships were triggered to self-destruct. Frigates, tech-3 cruisers, Bhaalgorns, and capital ships, all felt the warm embrace of Bob. It was difficult to track QULGÇÖs self inflicted carnage. Because QUL didnGÇÖt put aside enough time to finish self-destructing their ships, they had left us a sizable number to take home. As the timers ticked closer to 0, QUL loaded up what they could into carriers and safe-logged inside their crumbling towers. Our final estimate of QULGÇÖs self-destructions, (which didnGÇÖt even include destroyed modules), was over 42 billion Isk. The Harvest Once the towers were out of reinforce, destroying them wasn't a problem. Tower modules were unanchored, wrecks were looted, and ships were consolidated inside towers `we set up. Nearly 10 billion Isk of ships and 14.6bil in modules were recovered out of the destroyed towers. Knowing that QUL still had several loot-filled carriers logged off inside the towers, we set up log-on traps. Scouts had the pilots watchlisted and waited mobilize whenever a QUL carrier logged on. When hostiles did log on, they immediately bounced off the force fields of our tower and were dragged through our bubbles. Post Harvest Celebration Several empty industrials, a Bhaalgorn, a Nidhoggur, and a Rattlesnake were the first few ships that bravely failed to escape after the siege had ended. A few days later, one of their loot carriers had logged on and fell into one our traps. The Chimera did not survive. We knew that this first Chimera wasnGÇÖt their only loot carrier however. As luck would have it, one of our scouts was poking around a C6 that belonged to La Division Bleue when they noticed a QUL tower with no hardeners (again), low shields on the tower (indicating a recent onlining), and a Chimera (with the same name as one that logged off full of ships). Upon noticing the easy kill, we formed up and sieged the new tower. The Chimera desperately tried to get out of the bubbles our interdictors were dropping so it could warp away before itGÇÖs tower was destroyed. The pilotGÇÖs desperation prompted us to think he had not put any stront inside the tower to reinforce it. When the tower did turn out to be fully stronted with a full 36-hours of invulnerability, we started getting ready to go back home. As soon as our bubbles had expired the Chimera unexpectedly warped out of the tower. Our hero scanner hastily probed his signature and landed right on top of him, forcing him to lose his cloak. After the pilot was locked down, bubbled, and had no where to go, they decided to self-destruct. This second Chimera kill topped us off just shy of 77 billion Isk destroyed. Kudos to Disavowed and SYJ for trying to bring a fight. We hope to see QUL back in wormhole space soon. Our final estimates for the operation: Isk Destroyed: >76.9 billion Isk Assets Stole: >34.4 billion Isk Ships Sacrificed to Bob: >42.1 billion Isk kawkaw
Amarr Citizen 000001 Lazerhawks 1	Posted - 2014.09.18 03:07:00 - [3] - Quote reserved
Hidden Fremen Lazerhawks 492	Posted - 2014.09.18 03:20:00 - [4] - Quote GÖÑ Snipped signature for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne
Sith1s Spectre Rolled Out Triumvirate. 1218	Posted - 2014.09.18 03:30:00 - [5] - Quote Another active group gone from WH space. GG Have a cookie Rolled Out 2.0 is back. -áBut not in the way you're probably thinking-á
Aquila Sagitta Blue-Fire 486	Posted - 2014.09.18 03:36:00 - [6] - Quote What do you care? You moved out of wh to null XD Blue-Fire Best Fire
Sith1s Spectre Rolled Out Triumvirate. 1220	Posted - 2014.09.18 03:39:00 - [7] - Quote Just because I'm not living in WH space doesn't mean I don't care. Last night I was in TLC's hole. The night before brought an Ishtar fleet to HK's hole. Anyways, have fun with more empty space. GÖÑ Sith Rolled Out 2.0 is back. -áBut not in the way you're probably thinking-á
Bhane Celesto Future Methods 0	Posted - 2014.09.18 03:42:00 - [8] - Quote Sith1s Spectre wrote: Another active group gone from WH space. GG Have a cookie As dumb as it is, this is the truth of the matter. Amazing read-up, excellent presentation and well played on the eviction, but the sad fact is that's just -1 wh group roaming the unknown.
Seraph Essael Devils Diciples League of Infamy 876	Posted - 2014.09.18 03:46:00 - [9] - Quote Never tangled with them myself, but if they actively PvP'd then it seems evicting them for the sake of evicting them is pretty dumb, considering the sparseness of players in wormholes. If they pissed you off however and this is a plain old revenge eviction then fair one. Either way, I enjoyed the write up even if you are somewhat tooting your own horn or doing it just to rub salt in the wound. Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Hidden Fremen Lazerhawks 492	Posted - 2014.09.18 03:51:00 - [10] - Quote Sith1s Spectre wrote: Another active group gone from WH space. Hahaha, active? You're out of touch, dude... Snipped signature for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne
KeeganWaffle Lazerhawks 11	Posted - 2014.09.18 04:00:00 - [11] - Quote Seraph Essael wrote: Never tangled with them myself, but if they actively PvP'd then it seems evicting them for the sake of evicting them is pretty dumb, considering the sparseness of players in wormholes. If they pissed you off however and this is a plain old revenge eviction then fair one. Either way, I enjoyed the write up even if you are somewhat tooting your own horn or doing it just to rub salt in the wound. They made themselves a massive target by not setting up their towers correctly and flaunting 50+ smas. Also, wormhole space is already dead, all corps failscaded immediately after the patch
Slicedndiced Dropbears Anonymous Brave Collective 1	Posted - 2014.09.18 04:16:00 - [12] - Quote QUL are stupidly inactive for a 500+ person alliance. I personally don't like using killboards to measure activity, but they're at the absolute bottom of these comparisons, behind much smaller entities. At that point, killboards can tell you something. Edit: One of our cap pilots got really drunk one night and RFed a tower of theirs several jumps out of our hole. We then left without doing any hole control. They had the entire RF timer to get people in to defend (no one was even watching the entrances) and the only people that showed up to defend were 5 cerbs. About 10b in stuff dropped and they even left a freighter for us to haul it out.
Kniht Fleet-Jump 67	Posted - 2014.09.18 04:17:00 - [13] - Quote Amarr Citizen 000001 wrote: This caused many ships, (including a piloted Moros who was fired hundreds of 100kms away from the tower), to be ejected from the shields. After grabbing what we wanted, and shooting what we didn't, our dreadnoughts were warped up to where our tackle was holding the Moros hostage, (now several hundred kms away). The Moros pilot didn't want to trade his pod for the ship, so we graciously accepted the killmail of both. I was piloting that Moros. I was less than 10 seconds away from safe logoff counting down when they ejected me -- in their own Moros. When I realized what was happening, I hit siege at 8km/s. Since they bowled me directly into the hostile ships, I would have landed smack in the middle of 3 or 4 dreads (can't recall) without sieging. If I had been siege green before someone panicked and changed the tower, I would have gone much further. It was fun. :) I was invited because dread/carrier pilots were lacking. I flew in with a ceptor and no implants. I'm not sure what was up, but while we were waiting, bouncing at safes, for them to decide if they should trust us because "it was fishy" we came in through the crit static instead of through a K162, I used my ceptor to scan out 2-3 statics before anyone else from inside. I kept providing the J#s to the fleet, who checked existing chains for that system. Amarr Citizen 000001 wrote: Kudos to Disavowed and SYJ for trying to bring a fight. I'm former Disavowed, and was invited on the condition I did not mention it to my current alliance for reasons of opsec. SYJ didn't join in, just myself; though that would have been more fun, it wasn't my call. o/ fly crazy
Seraph Essael Devils Diciples League of Infamy 876	Posted - 2014.09.18 06:23:00 - [14] - Quote KeeganWaffle wrote: Seraph Essael wrote: Never tangled with them myself, but if they actively PvP'd then it seems evicting them for the sake of evicting them is pretty dumb, considering the sparseness of players in wormholes. If they pissed you off however and this is a plain old revenge eviction then fair one. Either way, I enjoyed the write up even if you are somewhat tooting your own horn or doing it just to rub salt in the wound. They made themselves a massive target by not setting up their towers correctly and flaunting 50+ smas. Also, wormhole space is already dead, all corps failscaded immediately after the patch Evicting people because their tower isn't set up right. Oh god, you should go remove every PvE wormhole corp in C4's and down then. Just today i was in a C4 that had 7 bubbles around it all on the single plain, with barely any guns and an XL SMA with a Phoenix floating, unmanned, in the FF. Sure it was set up pretty as hell, but those bubbles couldn't stop or decloak a damn thing for the guns to shoot... I have checked QULs killboards, majority of their recent kills have been whoring on Jita gankers etc so they haven't been very active in wormholes so I guess it's not a major loss persay. As for no people since Hyperion, I know a couple of corps (small time, no name corps) that have thrived moreso than before and one of them corps is a C4 carebear corp turned PvP'ers. But I can agree I have seen my fair share of people moving out... Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Kadm Catfish Gumbo Try Rerolling 30	Posted - 2014.09.18 06:29:00 - [15] - Quote I'm surprised. We actually got some decent fights when we tried to evict a QUL C1 we assume was solely for PI. Guess it just goes to show where people's priorities are.
Nelly Uanos Quebec's Underdog League Quebec United Legions 23	Posted - 2014.09.18 07:52:00 - [16] - Quote Finally some answers... guess I can give some too! Nice write-up btw appreciate the efforts you put in there. Yeah I can confirm, alliance numbers are TOTALLY NOT representative of active players. I'll leave the bomb here... we struggled to have a full alliance tournament team. So if you catch the drift most of our active member where still in Jita when you seeded your caps in... So yeah our last months of activity is kinda relied to these 2 things. (Except the lone guys who like to blap flashy thing in Jita) Also 50s SMA was a legacy of being a lots of people in a 4 moons system... guess the offline hardeners... Amarr Citizen 000001 wrote: We hope to see QUL back in wormhole space soon. As for the future and wormhole, we're still somewhat in disarray after this... some "active" member already went elsewhere... other are in questionning mode... Sith1s Spectre wrote: Another active group gone from WH space. GG Have a cookie I'll probably sound biased about this... but this guy might not be far from the truth. We were not the biggest active group in wormhole but we still had thing going on... Sill I dunno we might bounce back... Only the future will them! o7 P.S.: I totally know you did this for revenge because we stole an Orca from one of your member who was rolling a C3 static solo!
Borsek Incertae Sedis 249	Posted - 2014.09.18 08:19:00 - [17] - Quote Nice report, C6 has another empty hole now. Maybe QUL get back on its feet, maybe not. GG
Jessica Duranin Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 138	Posted - 2014.09.18 08:29:00 - [18] - Quote Thanks Lazerhawks. Wormhole space is soo crowded - I'm glad that you guys are thinning out the herd a bit. One more empty wormhole to scan through.
Glyndi Doom Generation THE H0NEYBADGER 249	Posted - 2014.09.18 08:32:00 - [19] - Quote More 'content' removed from WHs...gj. The whole eviction thought process still confuses me..."They only pvp a little, toss em out!" At least when BU evicted us its because they wanted our hole.
Winthorp 2715	Posted - 2014.09.18 08:38:00 - [20] - Quote So to get this straight you found a group living in WH space that are weaker then you and didn't pvp as much as you and had a lot more bling then you and thought yes they must be cleansed from WH space? Like you clearly didn't even try to get a fight if that was even an intention by stoping whatever backup they were trying to get in. And 100B ransom is just absurd, who cares if they SD'd 42b and lost more in eviction close you were never getting 100b LOL. Well another empty WH for you to scan through instead of having a corp with some pvp activity. I close with top kek, top kek indeed.
calaretu Honestly We didnt know Unsettled. 204	Posted - 2014.09.18 09:34:00 - [21] - Quote It is not the number of pilots behind a forcefield that attract new people to wormholespace but the stories that are told and that people want to be a part of. And if the pilots in QUL who were active still enjoy wormholespace they will reform and head back out. ~Bringer of happiness http://collapsedbehind.blogspot.no/
Hidden Fremen Lazerhawks 494	Posted - 2014.09.18 09:49:00 - [22] - Quote I guess we should just maintain the status quo and rot away until nullsec sounds like better space. All you nerds here complaining about "one more empty system" as if you actually give a **. Who noticed while we were evicting them? No one. Save your *. We're not going to sit back and wait for content delivery. There's enough of that going on, which is the very thing killing wspace. Half of you don't even know what you're complaining about. More of you don't know what to do with a populated wspace. The victims didn't even cry. Other people's tears in here instead. Lazerhawks just told a story. I hope you're right, calaretu, but it seems like people just want things quiet... Snipped signature for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne*
Rek Seven Probe Patrol Ixtab. 1869	Posted - 2014.09.18 10:11:00 - [23] - Quote Cool story, invasions are still a thing i guess. People shouldn't complain, it's not like there is any other goal, other than wiping a system out, when invading. #We need more conflict drivers. +1
Jay Joringer United System's Commonwealth 394	Posted - 2014.09.18 10:15:00 - [24] - Quote Does this mean it's too late to jump on the "oh noes, more empty systems" bandwagon? Always bet on stupid http://smug-bastard.blogspot.co.uk
Winthorp 2717	Posted - 2014.09.18 10:35:00 - [25] - Quote Hidden Fremen wrote: I guess we should just maintain the status quo and rot away until nullsec sounds like better space. All you nerds here complaining about "one more empty system" as if you actually give a **. Who noticed while we were evicting them? No one. Save your **. We're not going to sit back and wait for content delivery. There's enough of that going on, which is the very thing killing wspace. Half of you don't even know what you're complaining about. More of you don't know what to do with a populated wspace. The victims didn't even cry. Other people's tears in here instead. Lazerhawks just told a story. I hope you're right, calaretu, but it seems like people just want things quiet... To be fair i did enjoy the story telling ability in the OP, he should right more of them. I just find personally that your idea of creating good content for your members odd sitting around all weekend shooting structures while they entertain themselves with other media formats and to then take other measures to ensure your members get no actually fight out of them. But whatever floats your space boat man.
Hidden Fremen Lazerhawks 496	Posted - 2014.09.18 10:57:00 - [26] - Quote The worst part of our times is that the biggest voices in wspace are from nullsec... Snipped signature for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne
pubway Shi Lazerhawks 2	Posted - 2014.09.18 11:08:00 - [27] - Quote Winthorp wrote: Hidden Fremen wrote: I guess we should just maintain the status quo and rot away until nullsec sounds like better space. All you nerds here complaining about "one more empty system" as if you actually give a **. Who noticed while we were evicting them? No one. Save your **. We're not going to sit back and wait for content delivery. There's enough of that going on, which is the very thing killing wspace. Half of you don't even know what you're complaining about. More of you don't know what to do with a populated wspace. The victims didn't even cry. Other people's tears in here instead. Lazerhawks just told a story. I hope you're right, calaretu, but it seems like people just want things quiet... To be fair i did enjoy the story telling ability in the OP, he should right more of them. I just find personally that your idea of creating good content for your members odd sitting around all weekend shooting structures while they entertain themselves with other media formats and to then take other measures to ensure your members get no actually fight out of them. But whatever floats your space boat man. If it makes you feel any better i make googly eyed people on a daily basis, i dont need structure bashing to heighten my MS paint ability's.
Senn Denroth Lazerhawks 210	Posted - 2014.09.18 11:37:00 - [28] - Quote Sith1s Spectre wrote: Another active group gone from WH space. GG Have a cookie Active? No. Gone? No. Because of us they are a bit more active perhaps. I did expect a bit more from you though. Jessica Duranin wrote: Thanks Lazerhawks. Wormhole space is soo crowded - I'm glad that you guys are thinning out the herd a bit. One more empty wormhole to scan through. Removed from one wormhole, to another. Idiot. And we're set up in it now. So it isn't an 'empty' wormhole so to speak. But you being completely detached from this know everything right? Because, internet. Winthorp wrote: So to get this straight you found a group living in WH space that are weaker then you and didn't pvp as much as you and had a lot more bling then you and thought yes they must be cleansed from WH space? Like you clearly didn't even try to get a fight if that was even an intention by stoping whatever backup they were trying to get in. And 100B ransom is just absurd, who cares if they SD'd 42b and lost more in eviction close you were never getting 100b LOL. Well another empty WH for you to scan through instead of having a corp with some pvp activity. I close with top kek, top kek indeed. Yea idiot, we set the 100b ransom because we didn't want them to fight. We wanted our lulz content all weekend, and it was awesome by the way. Now we're set up in the system and they're already set up in another system getting ready to blueball people for the rest of their days. So you keep preaching from your high tower, because your corp has had great success with providing content to it's members. Anchor. Winthorp wrote:* To be fair i did enjoy the story telling ability in the OP, he should right more of them. I just find personally that your idea of creating good content for your members odd sitting around all weekend shooting structures while they entertain themselves with other media formats and to then take other measures to ensure your members get no actually fight out of them. But whatever floats your space boat man. Works great for us. We do whatever we want. Wormhole space has no rules. If you had the nads to actually take up the challenge you would find that it's actually quite fun. The world is your oyster kido.
Winthorp 2718	Posted - 2014.09.18 11:54:00 - [29] - Quote Hidden Fremen wrote: The worst part of our times is that the biggest voices in wspace are from nullsec... I am still in WH space by the way, feel free to waste a weekend on my jew corp too. I like that i hit a nerve with all your corp mates.
Andrew Jester Origin. Black Legion. 686	Posted - 2014.09.18 12:03:00 - [30] - Quote Hidden Fremen wrote: I guess we should just maintain the status quo and rot away until nullsec sounds like better space. All you nerds here complaining about "one more empty system" as if you actually give a **. Who noticed while we were evicting them? No one I was aware it was happening, but it's not like I'm going to no-life for hours just to save some random corp I knew was being evicted. Hidden Fremen wrote: the very thing killing wspace. Well you hit what this eviction was right on the head. Now if only you'd come to this conclusion earlier. Not sure why this calls for this much dickstroking because either since apparently QUL are some inactive scrubtier entity, and thus no one gives a ** that they're evicted. I'm glad you guys could no life for like 37h, and if that's the content you want, then you might as well pretend it's the start of summer again and get to evicting. If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
KeeganWaffle Lazerhawks 13	Posted - 2014.09.18 12:12:00 - [31] - Quote 1 less corp in wormhole space? And I thought I looked like a drama queen...
Hidden Fremen Lazerhawks 497	Posted - 2014.09.18 12:27:00 - [32] - Quote Winthorp wrote: I like that i hit a nerve with all your corp mates. Not sure it's that, per se. I think it's more that you're so unbelievably discontent with the game that we fear you'll poison others with your complaints. Andrew Jester wrote: no-life A bit like never missing a thread? Snipped signature for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne
RudinV Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 400	Posted - 2014.09.18 12:32:00 - [33] - Quote how removing not active corp from wspace affecting it...how dare u shoot POSes without ff damn content killers
Ya Huei Imperial Collective Unsettled. 181	Posted - 2014.09.18 13:42:00 - [34] - Quote Nice to see these forums are going back to normal. As in: We're bashing eachother again, not CCP.
Hidden Fremen Lazerhawks 497	Posted - 2014.09.18 13:48:00 - [35] - Quote And not a single thank you... Snipped signature for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne
chris elliot Yoyodyne corporation Shadow Cartel 400	Posted - 2014.09.18 14:03:00 - [36] - Quote Hidden Fremen wrote: The worst part of our times is that the biggest voices in wspace are from nullsec... Umm.... There's actually stuff to do out there. Unlike in wormholes.......
Powers Sa 1372	Posted - 2014.09.18 14:16:00 - [37] - Quote Cool post about shooting pos. I've never seen anyone post so enthusiastically about pos shots. lol
MooMooDachshundCow Incertae Sedis 51	Posted - 2014.09.18 14:17:00 - [38] - Quote Hidden Fremen wrote: And not a single thank you... Haters gonna hate. I for one think that not defending your POS and overloading it with shinies is basically asking for this outcome. I agree that this reduces WH content marginally for people, but I would guess as others have that QUL will remain in wormholes. With any luck this will inspire them to properly setup and defend their next system. Perhaps not. In a perfect would they would respond to LZHX with some PVP over the coming future, but I think that's unlikely. Sounds like all in all you had a pretty good eviction. Your members had fun which in the end is the most important IMHO. I was wondering what you guys were doing in that C5>C6 Pulsar. Maybe that was staging for the invasion. In any case, I hope you enjoyed the poutine. Keep creating content, whether they like it or not. Maybe you'll get lucky and they'll get REALLY fed up with you and give you the Pell Helix treatment. Then you'd get lots of content. Nicely done.
CivilWars Rolled Out Triumvirate. 191	Posted - 2014.09.18 14:20:00 - [39] - Quote I think almost everyone knows how I feel about LZHX, but I am actually on their side on this one. Keith told me about the eviction, after the fact, in our pub channel, and I was quite happy to hear about it. I will say that in the who knows how many times we connected to QUL while in SKY or RLLO they always ran and hid. I do not recall EVER getting a fight from them. Maybe w-space just needs an old fashioned cleansing to get all the trash out. We did our part by leaving. :) We Re-Rolled. Stop by public channel Rolled Out to join the fun.
Andrew Jester Origin. Black Legion. 686	Posted - 2014.09.18 14:32:00 - [40] - Quote Hidden Fremen wrote: Winthorp wrote: I like that i hit a nerve with all your corp mates. Not sure it's that, per se. I think it's more that you're so unbelievably discontent with the game that we fear you'll poison others with your complaints. Andrew Jester wrote: no-life A bit like never missing a thread? Gotta farm those spacebook likes m888 If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
Saavik Ambraelle Lazerhawks 33	Posted - 2014.09.18 14:51:00 - [41] - Quote Evicting mostly inactive care bears is killing wspace, oh no. The wspace content they provided was so damn riveting, and now its a tragedy that they are gone! End sarcasm. Yeah, great, because now they are more active trying to recover their losses, and are back in wspace anyway, you're all havi Intoxication is the most effective of warp scramblers.
Zara Arran Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred 112	Posted - 2014.09.18 14:53:00 - [42] - Quote wow.. we are living in what is supposedly the most "dangerous" part of New Eden, yet we have more rules than the EULA (don't moderate this out, i still love CCP). What is up with all these guidelines of what you are and are not allowed to do? I don't understand why. ISK is coming out of every pore of WHs so if you are invaded you should be able to recover. If you are evicted, put a POS up somewhere else, build up and come back with a vengence. This non-eviction-rule is making WHs stale imho. In a game that is supposed to be a sandbox where scamming, stealing and spying is allowed or even encouraged. In a part of Eve where you should be the "least safe".. Why do you get a get-out-of-jail card as long as you have the "pvp-entity" tag? Let everybody play their game the way they want it. Want to evict null bears? Go for it. Want to invade a pvp entity in hopes of a fight (or just because they looked at you funny)? Go for it. Want to be that white knight to save all that pvp entity. Go for it. But please, stop complaining... Anyways, I think we need more conflict drivers, more fueds like these, more danger, and less rules. Don't get me wrong. I don't want QUL to leave WHs, I just hope they come back and plan their revenge. /rant

ISD Ezwal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 2282	Posted - 2014.09.18 14:59:00 - [43] - Quote Thread has been moved to Crime & Punishment. If you did not want to have it moved, you should have left out the killmails. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department

Sith1s Spectre Rolled Out Triumvirate. 1230	Posted - 2014.09.18 15:16:00 - [44] - Quote Zara Arran wrote: wow.. we are living in what is supposedly the most "dangerous" part of New Eden, yet we have more rules than the EULA (don't moderate this out, i still love CCP). What is up with all these guidelines of what you are and are not allowed to do? I don't understand why. ISK is coming out of every pore of WHs so if you are invaded you should be able to recover. If you are evicted, put a POS up somewhere else, build up and come back with a vengence. This non-eviction-rule is making WHs stale imho. In a game that is supposed to be a sandbox where scamming, stealing and spying is allowed or even encouraged. In a part of Eve where you should be the "least safe".. Why do you get a get-out-of-jail card as long as you have the "pvp-entity" tag? Let everybody play their game the way they want it. Want to evict null bears? Go for it. Want to invade a pvp entity in hopes of a fight (or just because they looked at you funny)? Go for it. Want to be that white knight to save all that pvp entity. Go for it. But please, stop complaining... Anyways, I think we need more conflict drivers, more fueds like these, more danger, and less rules. Don't get me wrong. I don't want QUL to leave WHs, I just hope they come back and plan their revenge. /rant Ironic coming from NOHO who did the whole NATO bullshit against BU/QEX/LZHX when they invaded Whale Girth (and a group of us counter invaded QEX) and stopped a whole campaign of conflict against multiple sides. Rolled Out 2.0 is back. -áBut not in the way you're probably thinking-á
Andrew Jester Origin. Black Legion. 687	Posted - 2014.09.18 15:20:00 - [45] - Quote Sith1s Spectre wrote: Zara Arran wrote: wow.. we are living in what is supposedly the most "dangerous" part of New Eden, yet we have more rules than the EULA (don't moderate this out, i still love CCP). What is up with all these guidelines of what you are and are not allowed to do? I don't understand why. ISK is coming out of every pore of WHs so if you are invaded you should be able to recover. If you are evicted, put a POS up somewhere else, build up and come back with a vengence. This non-eviction-rule is making WHs stale imho. In a game that is supposed to be a sandbox where scamming, stealing and spying is allowed or even encouraged. In a part of Eve where you should be the "least safe".. Why do you get a get-out-of-jail card as long as you have the "pvp-entity" tag? Let everybody play their game the way they want it. Want to evict null bears? Go for it. Want to invade a pvp entity in hopes of a fight (or just because they looked at you funny)? Go for it. Want to be that white knight to save all that pvp entity. Go for it. But please, stop complaining... Anyways, I think we need more conflict drivers, more fueds like these, more danger, and less rules. Don't get me wrong. I don't want QUL to leave WHs, I just hope they come back and plan their revenge. /rant Ironic coming from NOHO who did the whole NATO bullshit against BU/QEX/LZHX when they invaded Whale Girth (and a group of us counter invaded QEX) and stopped a whole campaign of conflict against multiple sides. NO DONT YOU ******* DARE INTERRUPT THEIR NARRATIVE If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
Saisin State War Academy Caldari State 143	Posted - 2014.09.18 15:56:00 - [46] - Quote Bhane Celesto wrote: Amazing read-up, excellent presentation and well played on the eviction +1 Bhane Celesto wrote: but the sad fact is that's just -1 wh group roaming the unknown. Some may be disheartened by such an outcome, but I doubt the WH will remain empty. As it was setup, It was obviously too tempting to resist, and they fell due to complacency and as a QUL member pointed out a bad timing in their activity schedule (them being focused on their alliance tournament team..) ... May be they come back somewhere else, creating content, or may be they will hound their evictors, creating other type of content, or may be they will roam from K-space... Mentioning that a WH eviction is participating to lack of content is disingenuous imho.... "surrender your ego, be free". innuendo. solo? There is a new hope http://turamarths-evelife.blogspot.com/2014/05/ok-now-im-betting-man.html
Rob Benson Rolled Out Triumvirate. 89	Posted - 2014.09.18 16:03:00 - [47] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPuJ1xRRFtQ Skyriders, ride on!
Yourmoney Mywallet Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation 83	Posted - 2014.09.18 16:07:00 - [48] - Quote Don't know which I like more: OP; or the tears of all the hole-bears crying over some dudes who couldn't defend themselves getting their a$$es handed to them... ... as it should be, in this game.
Glyndi Doom Generation THE H0NEYBADGER 252	Posted - 2014.09.18 17:06:00 - [49] - Quote I rather enjoyed our fights with QUL, this one was the most recent. Before that fight we engaged them in our Magnetar before the eviction in which they promptly executed two of our Vindicators with 4 Guardians supporting. Mostly I'm with the opinion that evicting someone just cause is pointless and creates a paddling up river effect for all of WSpace. Now, if they were evicted because someone wanted that specific WH for whatever reason: good pi, system affect, static, etc. then I'm all for that as well. To each their own I suppose, if this is how Lazerhawks plays their EVE then so be it. It's my belief it will bite them in the ass eventually. I still <3 HiddenFremen. I do hope that QUL can cut their 'fat' and get back into WSpace promptly with this most recent fire that was so elegantly placed under their rectums.
Alundil Isogen 5 664	Posted - 2014.09.18 17:12:00 - [50] - Quote Sith1s Spectre wrote: Zara Arran wrote: wow.. we are living in what is supposedly the most "dangerous" part of New Eden, yet we have more rules than the EULA (don't moderate this out, i still love CCP). What is up with all these guidelines of what you are and are not allowed to do? I don't understand why. ISK is coming out of every pore of WHs so if you are invaded you should be able to recover. If you are evicted, put a POS up somewhere else, build up and come back with a vengence. This non-eviction-rule is making WHs stale imho. In a game that is supposed to be a sandbox where scamming, stealing and spying is allowed or even encouraged. In a part of Eve where you should be the "least safe".. Why do you get a get-out-of-jail card as long as you have the "pvp-entity" tag? Let everybody play their game the way they want it. Want to evict null bears? Go for it. Want to invade a pvp entity in hopes of a fight (or just because they looked at you funny)? Go for it. Want to be that white knight to save all that pvp entity. Go for it. But please, stop complaining... Anyways, I think we need more conflict drivers, more fueds like these, more danger, and less rules. Don't get me wrong. I don't want QUL to leave WHs, I just hope they come back and plan their revenge. /rant Ironic coming from NOHO who did the whole NATO bullshit against BU/QEX/LZHX when they invaded Whale Girth (and a group of us counter invaded QEX) and stopped a whole campaign of conflict against multiple sides. This. Slightly funny in that sense. Tl;Dr ITT evictions are good when "we" think they are. evictions are bad when "we" think they are Having an opinion on either of the above makes "you" something something fill in the blank This is a choose your own adventure where "we" and "you" are totally up to reader's perspective/preference. I'm right behind you
CivilWars Rolled Out Triumvirate. 192	Posted - 2014.09.18 17:19:00 - [51] - Quote So it seems SKY fought QUL at least 3 times before I joined. Maybe the French just fear me. I guess that is what happens when you declare yourself king of w-space. We Re-Rolled. Stop by public channel Rolled Out to join the fun. Hidden Fremen liked your forum post:...
Amarr Citizen 000001 Lazerhawks 11	Posted - 2014.09.18 18:46:00 - [52] - Quote Powers Sa wrote: Cool post about shooting pos. I've never seen anyone post so enthusiastically about pos shots. FINALLY someone gets it :D ISD Ezwal wrote: Thread has been moved to Crime & Punishment. If you did not want to have it moved, you should have left out the killmails. A wormhole thread without an ISD post isn't really a wormhole thread anyways. <3
ExookiZ The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 293	Posted - 2014.09.18 22:09:00 - [53] - Quote Hidden Fremen wrote: And not a single thank you... Ill thank you Hidden, I know my corp doesn't have a great track record of providing content, but at least were usually honest about fights or no fights. On multiple occasions QUL has told us theyre forming up , and rolling their WH at the same time ( prior to Hyperion). For me theres a difference in " well try to raise a fleet standby" and " we are coming hold on a minute", and I make great efforts to ensure communicating the right one when confronted by groups. After repeated disappointments wed just roll onwards when we saw QUL knowing theres a 0% chance of content. The Wormhole Kid
Mr Omniblivion GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 77	Posted - 2014.09.18 22:23:00 - [54] - Quote Can't you guys use API data to find active whs to get more fights?
Schwa Nuts GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 69	Posted - 2014.09.18 23:46:00 - [55] - Quote Mr Omniblivion wrote: Can't you guys use API data to find active whs to get more fights? nope
Bob Artis Rolled Out Triumvirate. 73	Posted - 2014.09.19 00:26:00 - [56] - Quote Sith1s Spectre wrote: Ironic coming from NOHO who did the whole NATO bullshit against BU/QEX/LZHX when they invaded Whale Girth (and a group of us counter invaded QEX) and stopped a whole campaign of conflict against multiple sides. I was really getting excited about this summer. I thought Wormhole space was about to see a multi-front war with almost every notable WH group at the time. I wanted to see invasions and counter invasions. I thought I might actually get to see my first invasion from the defending side. The night EXIT, Disavowed, and RLLO seeded and took control oh QEX's hole was the most exciting night since I started playing EVE. I thought "This is the end game I imagined when I created my account back in 2008". But no. Instead we get one group bitching out and nothing happening. In other news Lazerhawks and Hidden Freman still think they are the best thing since sliced bread.
Tanzor Lazerhawks 3	Posted - 2014.09.19 00:33:00 - [57] - Quote I LOVE LAMP!
Hidden Fremen Lazerhawks 503	Posted - 2014.09.19 00:41:00 - [58] - Quote Bob Artis wrote: In other news Lazerhawks and Hidden Freman still think they are the best thing since sliced bread. I don't remember thinking anything other than DOING instead of talking... Snipped signature for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne
Tora Bushido EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 1240	Posted - 2014.09.19 07:02:00 - [59] - Quote Quote: Drake belonging to balou2003 self-destructs. This made me happy YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
ChrisLCTR Lazerhawks 149	Posted - 2014.09.19 07:16:00 - [60] - Quote Zara Arran wrote: wow.. we are living in what is supposedly the most "dangerous" part of New Eden, yet we have more rules than the EULA (don't moderate this out, i still love CCP). What is up with all these guidelines of what you are and are not allowed to do? I don't understand why. ISK is coming out of every pore of WHs so if you are invaded you should be able to recover. If you are evicted, put a POS up somewhere else, build up and come back with a vengence. This non-eviction-rule is making WHs stale imho. In a game that is supposed to be a sandbox where scamming, stealing and spying is allowed or even encouraged. In a part of Eve where you should be the "least safe".. Why do you get a get-out-of-jail card as long as you have the "pvp-entity" tag? Let everybody play their game the way they want it. Want to evict null bears? Go for it. Want to invade a pvp entity in hopes of a fight (or just because they looked at you funny)? Go for it. Want to be that white knight to save all that pvp entity. Go for it. But please, stop complaining... Anyways, I think we need more conflict drivers, more fueds like these, more danger, and less rules. Don't get me wrong. I don't want QUL to leave WHs, I just hope they come back and plan their revenge. /rant Couldn't agree more. I miss actual logical posts like this. EVE-O/W forums are basically cancer 98% of the time. Thanks Zara for the breath of fresh air Bob Artis wrote: In other news Lazerhawks and Hidden Freman still think they are the best thing since sliced bread. Never a statement that came from any of us. I think people just jumped on the whole bandwagon that we are the villains, Which is fine. Every good story requires a protagonist. If you can find a statement from any of use proclaiming that we are the best thing since sliced bread or anything to that effect, good on you. I invite you to try, but instead of doing just that, I can expect that there will be a huge negative response from the same 5-7 people that post on every thread in the WH forums. Trolling is pretty satisfying as I understand, but something people seem to fail to realize is nobody in -LZHX- cares, like at all. We are playing a game that we enjoy, in the space that we are still having fun living and operating out of. Sorry some of you lost the spirit to do the same, and feel somewhat vindicated to splurge a bunch of nonsensical criticism towards EVERY post made by us. I think some folks that seem to dislike us are upset that we are still having fun in W-Space, and having some relatively good success. Silly for us to feel compelled to even dignify your comments with any responses. Keep the laughter in Slaughter
Zara Arran Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred 120	Posted - 2014.09.19 08:46:00 - [61] - Quote Sith1s Spectre wrote: Ironic coming from NOHO who did the whole NATO bullshit against BU/QEX/LZHX when they invaded Whale Girth (and a group of us counter invaded QEX) and stopped a whole campaign of conflict against multiple sides. First of all.. I do have an opinion myself as well which might not always be the same as that of my corp or alliance... Second, look at my employment history.. I wasnt in NOHO when that went down. But as I say in my post.. I am not against invasions or for them. I am saying to let everyone play their game their way and stop complaining out of game about their "reason" for invading. If you don't like it, act upon it in game, not on the forums or in chat channels. If we put all the time we spend on reading or posting on forums, reddit etc actually playing Eve, WHs might be a lot busier :)
Jessica Duranin Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 144	Posted - 2014.09.19 09:56:00 - [62] - Quote Of course, they are allowed to play the game their way. That just doesn't mean people aren't allowed to call them stupid when they do stupid things. Because that's exactly what this is. If the big corps start kicking out the smaller ones just "because they can", we'll eventually end up where nullsec is now. You are either part of a large power or you get kicked out. A lot of people are in wormhole space because they hate that sort of game play.
Hidden Fremen Lazerhawks 503	Posted - 2014.09.19 09:58:00 - [63] - Quote IIRC, QUL was double our size... Snipped signature for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 872	Posted - 2014.09.19 12:23:00 - [64] - Quote Great battle report. Sounds like these guys got fat, lazy, and stupid and paid the price. Wish I coulda been there to steal me some pimp boats...:) Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Serendipity Lost Repo Industries Chelonaphobia 485	Posted - 2014.09.19 12:45:00 - [65] - Quote Hate and love are such closely related emotions. It's not like I have to tell you guys to ignore the 'poo poo on you' crowd - you've pretty much owned that for a few years. It's a tough game. It sux to lose. It also sux to worry that you may be next to lose. Through all the moral finger pointing, can anyone give an update on the guys that got womped? Did they rebuild? Did they implode? What is the actual long term result of the fight? I'd just like to point out the only true eviction is when you stomp them AND set it up as your new permanant residence. Anything less than actually moving in is just and @55kicking. If Fremen isn't living there, it's not an eviction it's a beatdown. They only feel the same until Fremen and the boys move on.
Constans Macob Lazerhawks 5	Posted - 2014.09.19 12:46:00 - [66] - Quote ChrisLCTR wrote: Bob Artis wrote: In other news Lazerhawks and Hidden Freman still think they are the best thing since sliced bread. Never a statement that came from any of us. I think people just jumped on the whole bandwagon that we are the villains, Which is fine. Every good story requires a protagonist. If you can find a statement from any of use proclaiming that we are the best thing since sliced bread or anything to that effect, good on you. The protagonist is the good guy, the antagonist is the bad guy. A good antagonist is the protagonist of his own story. Except this f*ing guy. We are the best thing since sliced bread at being grammar ***.
Ghenghis Kralj Big Johnson's 29	Posted - 2014.09.19 15:34:00 - [67] - Quote Hidden Fremen wrote: IIRC, QUL was double our size... lol!
Amarr Citizen 000001 Lazerhawks 14	Posted - 2014.09.19 20:57:00 - [68] - Quote Ghenghis Kralj wrote: Hidden Fremen wrote: IIRC, QUL was double our size... lol! what is math?
Made NChina II Quebec's Underdog League Quebec United Legions 0	Posted - 2014.09.20 02:44:00 - [69] - Quote Quebec's Underdog League Corporation Founded 2008.03.01 We never kicked anyone since. just wiping off r+¦le, until we meet again :D I don't care about it, and i'm not replying to complain Lazerhawk just cut some fat off of our corp, Those who can live with it deserve their places in the corp. Others complaining they know what to do :D That not our first time, and it will not be our last time. Hope next time we going to get enough active members cause we missed a good fight there. We never had to engage any mercenary before, And i think it would be the last time even if we get stock again with least then 10 guys against more then 30 We'll always get back. Cause We were always there ! Since the beginning ! FlySafe ALL
Steppa Musana Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 118	Posted - 2014.09.20 07:15:00 - [70] - Quote So this is what they meant by WH dwellers are whinier than even the high-sec carebears. Kudos to QUL for taking it on the chin. Odd state of affairs when the victims are giving props to the hostiles while 3rd parties whine on their "behalf".
Winthorp 2732	Posted - 2014.09.20 07:18:00 - [71] - Quote Steppa Musana wrote: So this is what they meant by WH dwellers are whinier than even the high-sec carebears. Kudos to QUL for taking it on the chin. Odd state of affairs when the victims are giving props to the hostiles while 3rd parties whine on their "behalf". I don't feel your eyes are really "open" on the issue....
Ghenghis Kralj Big Johnson's 29	Posted - 2014.09.21 22:26:00 - [72] - Quote Amarr Citizen 000001 wrote: Ghenghis Kralj wrote: Hidden Fremen wrote: IIRC, QUL was double our size... lol! what is math? Math is hard. Especially subtraction.
Powers Sa 1376	Posted - 2014.09.22 18:43:00 - [73] - Quote Schwa Nuts wrote: Mr Omniblivion wrote: Can't you guys use API data to find active whs to get more fights? nope then how do you explain your repeated cap welps? lol
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 263	Posted - 2014.09.22 20:53:00 - [74] - Quote Great story, was extremely fun to read. I am a bit surprised and shocked by the tears about the whole thing in this thread. I did not know w-space had a carebear problem. the Code ALWAYS wins
Mallak Azaria GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 6195	Posted - 2014.09.22 21:31:00 - [75] - Quote Wormhole drama is almost as amusing as incursion drama. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.

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