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Pehova Mindtriq Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.08.05 11:03:00 - [181] Originally by: putukas Edited by: putukas on 05/08/2006 10:50:37 Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq You shoot POS'es for fun? Anyways I like RA more and more every day. I dont think any alliance out there could survive the odds they are facfng. Too bad the RA's enemies ran and hid when CELES came to GW, really wanted to help the underdog in this conflict. thats just lame what you just said. Come back to GW all mighty CELES!!!112 then maybe we get something to shoot at other then 250km range + wcs¦s Actually we got a similar invite from your alliance 3-4 months ago and accepted it. We came, had like 2 fights and after that e02 and m-m got empty of enemies. Suggesting for CELES to go to GW again will prolly get me kicked out of the corp for the worst idea ever Celes vs Xelas
welsh wizard	Posted - 2006.08.05 11:08:00 - [182] I'm sure they had real reasons to leave Pehova. But yeah Jenny, we were told by your own guys it'd be fun and it wasn't. Now its the same in Fountain. Sigh....
Evil Thug Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.05 11:19:00 - [183] Actually putukas is well known "bad-mouth". He also invite us to GW. We came, get 11 : 1 killratio, ganked LD in his dred, and he shut up on forums. I guess he`ll never learn. Rage and Terror - making people quit EVE.
welsh wizard	Posted - 2006.08.05 11:21:00 - [184] We've always had great respect for LD which is part of the reason we came down. A great pvp'er and still the best killer of celes after all this time.
putukas Enterprise Estonia Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.05 11:23:00 - [185] thanks for the compliment Evil Thug
Devoras2 Amarr Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.05 11:41:00 - [186] Originally by: CEO Pyrex Originally by: Mj Pronin Originally by: CEO Pyrex Great night, lag was a pain but in all an amusing bit of fun for this game we play Well said m8. We all need learn to respect the ones we play with. But some people just dont know how to do this. Please ASCN guys stop posting hostility, if gets you nowhere and the community is on its knees already dont add to the percieved image of eve being a game of whiners. CEO Pyrex "kill our titans, then you can boast...." I really wanted to comment back, but fine! Fine! Dev And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
Beyond Horizon Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.05 12:01:00 - [187] Originally by: putukas We got the job done what we came to do and i think thats primary. Every war has casualties its normal. So your plan was to loose 4 capital ships just to get a POS into reinforced mode? Okay, gratz then - BH
Khayman33 Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.08.05 12:36:00 - [188] Originally by: Devoras2 Originally by: balrog LOL Can you guys plz stop crying about lagg. We al have problems with lagg. Lagg, exploit, login traps, bla bla bla. Adapt or fit mininglasers im sure the asteroids belts are lagg free and the roids dont logg off on you RA FTW !!! Cause it seems that log-in traps and logg off during high pressure its what you guys are only good at. I consider this the weapon of the weak. And guess what distinct group shares this commen trait. Dev Weapon of the weak is the blob ... sry :)
VonKaplanek III Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.05 13:52:00 - [189] Originally by: CEO Pyrex Great night, lag was a pain but in all an amusing bit of fun for this game we play Stop with the hate on the forums please, ascn loosing capital ships is like you loosing a battleship and dont forget that - we threw ours into the fray and had a real blast doing it, not hide them at a pos. You wont hold onto your home if you dont take risks and im fellin risky :) ASCN are here to have fun, not get wrapped up in some epeen war, its a game after all and means absolutly nothing in real life so go play and try to have fun. Respect to RA, keep it civil :) What he said...
putukas Enterprise Estonia Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.05 14:14:00 - [190] Originally by: Beyond Horizon So your plan was to loose 4 capital ships just to get a POS into reinforced mode? Okay, gratz then take it how you like but c-j is lost for you anyway

Amthrianius Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.05 14:26:00 - [191] More people needed in the coalition makes baby jesus cry :( ---------------
Minevra Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.05 14:41:00 - [192] Originally by: putukas Originally by: Beyond Horizon So your plan was to loose 4 capital ships just to get a POS into reinforced mode? Okay, gratz then take it how you like but c-j is lost for you anyway Ok lets go to math. To get all our poses to reinforsed mode you need about...80 cap ships and 1200 BS's. Good with us.
Myal Terego PAX Interstellar Services Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.05 15:20:00 - [193] Originally by: Minevra Originally by: putukas Originally by: Beyond Horizon So your plan was to loose 4 capital ships just to get a POS into reinforced mode? Okay, gratz then take it how you like but c-j is lost for you anyway Ok lets go to math. To get all our poses to reinforsed mode you need about...80 cap ships and 1200 BS's. Good with us. I truly hope the devs read this and nerf pos really hard, it makes battling in 0.0 ridiculous atm. If they nerfed reinforced to a max of 8 hours, and doubled fitting costs of hardeners and guns, and cut shields / armor by 1/2 maybe it would be more feasible, but atm its quite ridiculous to try and fight a POS spamming entity for both sides. You guys should realize it after your failed attempts in f2a / n7-. Its ridiculous. Im not saying I want to see the 6 hour flip flops we saw in catch with fix / whoever else held its space that day. But currently they are ridiculous. 30 min to put up, and weeks to take down, and the force reqd, is worth about 100 times the cost of the spammed pos. Something needs to be done about it.
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.05 15:23:00 - [194] Originally by: Myal Terego Originally by: Minevra Originally by: putukas Originally by: Beyond Horizon So your plan was to loose 4 capital ships just to get a POS into reinforced mode? Okay, gratz then take it how you like but c-j is lost for you anyway Ok lets go to math. To get all our poses to reinforsed mode you need about...80 cap ships and 1200 BS's. Good with us. I truly hope the devs read this and nerf pos really hard, it makes battling in 0.0 ridiculous atm. If they nerfed reinforced to a max of 8 hours, and doubled fitting costs of hardeners and guns, and cut shields / armor by 1/2 maybe it would be more feasible, but atm its quite ridiculous to try and fight a POS spamming entity for both sides. You guys should realize it after your failed attempts in f2a / n7-. Its ridiculous. Im not saying I want to see the 6 hour flip flops we saw in catch with fix / whoever else held its space that day. But currently they are ridiculous. 30 min to put up, and weeks to take down, and the force reqd, is worth about 100 times the cost of the spammed pos. Something needs to be done about it. lol. How many dreads do you need? Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Fargas Minmatar RUS Academy Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.05 15:26:00 - [195] ^^ whiner ALERT !!!!!11111 well, BoB captured EC outpost and killed 20+ poses during siege. Why you can't do it? Oh wait, you can't klik, .... davno pora
Myal Terego PAX Interstellar Services Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.05 15:48:00 - [196] Originally by: Fargas ^^ whiner ALERT !!!!!11111 well, BoB captured EC outpost and killed 20+ poses during siege. Why you can't do it? Oh wait, you can't Lil different when they barely fight back, and we all know you guys are the pos masters, noone will dispute that.
HatePeace LoveWar Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.05 15:52:00 - [197] Ultimatley it boils down to the cold hard fact that this game cannot handle large amounts of people in one system and especially on the same grid. An issue that CCP has been trying to tackle for years and something i can't really imagine will ever get sorted. What worries me the most is CCP is trying to encourage these sort of fights with capital ships, pos's and soverignty. http://members.lycos.co.uk/snailbrain/hateme.jpg signature removed (max size 24000 bytes) - please email us (with the signature URL) if you want to know why - Pirlouit([email protected])
HatePeace LoveWar Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.05 15:54:00 - [198] Ultimatley it boils down to the cold hard fact that this game cannot handle large amounts of people in one system and especially on the same grid. An issue that CCP has been trying to tackle for years and something i can't really imagine will ever get sorted. What worries me the most is CCP is trying to encourage these sort of fights with capital ships, pos's and soverignty. http://members.lycos.co.uk/snailbrain/hateme.jpg signature removed (max size 24000 bytes) - please email us (with the signature URL) if you want to know why - Pirlouit([email protected])
Kilpelainen FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.05 15:59:00 - [199] Not to underestimate the losses but I doubt RA would have much more luck if they would be fighting deathstars. But for months, if ever, have they been in a position where it would be worth the effort. This might be because they don't have the numbers nor the will to fight in our terms which as I see it cannot be avoided if they want us out of their home - east.
Minevra Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.05 16:05:00 - [200] Originally by: Myal Terego Originally by: Minevra Originally by: putukas Originally by: Beyond Horizon So your plan was to loose 4 capital ships just to get a POS into reinforced mode? Okay, gratz then take it how you like but c-j is lost for you anyway Ok lets go to math. To get all our poses to reinforsed mode you need about...80 cap ships and 1200 BS's. Good with us. I truly hope the devs read this and nerf pos really hard, it makes battling in 0.0 ridiculous atm. If they nerfed reinforced to a max of 8 hours, and doubled fitting costs of hardeners and guns, and cut shields / armor by 1/2 maybe it would be more feasible, but atm its quite ridiculous to try and fight a POS spamming entity for both sides. You guys should realize it after your failed attempts in f2a / n7-. Its ridiculous. Im not saying I want to see the 6 hour flip flops we saw in catch with fix / whoever else held its space that day. But currently they are ridiculous. 30 min to put up, and weeks to take down, and the force reqd, is worth about 100 times the cost of the spammed pos. Something needs to be done about it. Or maybe they should make way for RA members NOT to login during your battles? When the game isn't going your way you try to change the rules? Be a man, not a little crying girl.

Minevra Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.05 16:10:00 - [201] Originally by: Kilpelainen Not to underestimate the losses but I doubt RA would have much more luck if they would be fighting deathstars. But for months, if ever, have they been in a position where it would be worth the effort. This might be because they don't have the numbers nor the will to fight in our terms which as I see it cannot be avoided if they want us out of their home - east. Your last fight yesterday was near the station, your forces fleed and your carrier...logofski not to get captured. But omg RA used scan probe exploit and found him.
LTD THOR Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.05 16:35:00 - [202] "..and the low award goes to.." My 1st video : =RED WARS-The Beginning= ;)
HatePeace LoveWar Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.05 16:38:00 - [203] Edited by: HatePeace LoveWar on 05/08/2006 16:41:45 triple post :\| http://members.lycos.co.uk/snailbrain/hateme.jpg signature removed (max size 24000 bytes) - please email us (with the signature URL) if you want to know why - Pirlouit([email protected])
Kilpelainen FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.05 16:54:00 - [204] Originally by: Minevra Originally by: Kilpelainen Not to underestimate the losses but I doubt RA would have much more luck if they would be fighting deathstars. But for months, if ever, have they been in a position where it would be worth the effort. This might be because they don't have the numbers nor the will to fight in our terms which as I see it cannot be avoided if they want us out of their home - east. Your last fight yesterday was near the station, your forces fleed and your carrier...logofski not to get captured. But omg RA used scan probe exploit and found him. I dunno about yesterday since I've been in empire for couple of days but in general my last post is true right?
Fargas Minmatar RUS Academy Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.05 17:10:00 - [205] Originally by: Kilpelainen Originally by: Minevra Originally by: Kilpelainen Not to underestimate the losses but I doubt RA would have much more luck if they would be fighting deathstars. But for months, if ever, have they been in a position where it would be worth the effort. This might be because they don't have the numbers nor the will to fight in our terms which as I see it cannot be avoided if they want us out of their home - east. Your last fight yesterday was near the station, your forces fleed and your carrier...logofski not to get captured. But omg RA used scan probe exploit and found him. I dunno about yesterday since I've been in empire for couple of days but in general my last post is true right? too many ifs =) quoting Pastora's signature If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants. klik, .... davno pora
Crellion Art of War	Posted - 2006.08.05 17:12:00 - [206] Originally by: RichThugster when i read the first half of the post i assumed it was a coalition guy. After that i had to actually look it up in game, since i thought it was some sarcastic post by Red Alliance. Simply put WOW. numbers already far outblobbing red alliance, they start celebrating that ASCN are getting involved. ASCN are probably getting involved due to the coalitions incompetance. over 6 months ago the coalition started pushing on RA, sure the numbers may not have been as they are now, but RA im pretty confident have always been outnumbered. I used to despise RA for their Logoffski tactics whenever u entered their local, now however i have nothing but respect for them, and the superb job they have done in holding out so long. Xiaodown, that scorp setup, you should be ashamed. The nos i can understand, to put on any ceptors that get close, but the target painter? the cap recharger? seriously WTF, the shied hardener, as the shinra guy said, if your primary it wont save you. Unless this is all a cunning scheeme, so RA dont call you primary, since they think "he cant even rig a scorp for fleetbattles, next target" Think again. We were killing them with 10 kill per loss ratio or better with 300 v pilots v 3000 RA pilots at the beggining of the war and getting a station per week. You need to learn better history As to whats happening these days I have an idea but I d rather refrain from posting since I dont belong in this conflict any more.
Crellion Art of War	Posted - 2006.08.05 17:30:00 - [207] Also @ Welsh Wizzard the fact is that Celes did come to GW when all -v- but a few npcers were fighting in SP and N-rael area. Celes came to m-m and e02 area. They came so that -v- pvpers would amuse themselves with them and let RA breathe at a very difficult time for them. We didnt bite this bait and told them that if they wanted fights other than ganks of npcers (who ultimately were too good at running so CELES got bored and left) they would have to move up to 1v- > N-rael corridor. CELES chose not to do this. I cnat blame them. They were doind a job in e02 and they didnt have the numbers to come to 1v-. Fair enough. But posting e-peen augmentation posts like "we came to GW and didnt get fights" doesnt become you WW. Not to mention the few times the N-rael ganags were sent down to give you a fight you withrew rapidly (again wisely not that I blame you or anything.) Moving on to ET. his gang of merry wethermen also limited themselves to GW and npcer hunting. 3 exceptions. (1) Once they attacked an POS at 1v- while 80 -v- BS and support were off ganking others. LD logged in 1v- saw them and warped to their 20 BS gang alone (more or less) in a Dread. thats usual LD stuff and props to him. Then some more -v- were assembled and an almost equal numbers BS fight followed (equal numbers but our main BS gang was away so 5-6 of us had tech II long range ammo and all RAT BSs had long range ammo engagement at 190kms). RAT got more kills. Soon after they logged and during the night went back down to e02. (2) They brought a small BS long range fleet to a system 4-5 jumps from 1v- where an RA station was being taken over. They were engaged by equal numbers BS and Cruiser gang mainly short range and won convincingly. The long range BS gang of equal numbers wa scrambled from 1v- and we sat on the gate waiting for them (previous gang retreated in the station system). RATs came twice at 160km lost 4 BSs killed 1 and then logged. (3) They were engaging LDs Dread (another dread :) ) in e02 with their fleet. They were getting a lot of tech I frigs kills that were being used to paint for the Dread and losing almost nothing. Stalemate. 12 of us in BCs and cruisers jumped them coming down from 1v- and we killed a lot of their BSs. I more or less soloed one in a Brutix lawl. Thats RAT. Very good at some things but by no means uber and avoiding equal fights or losing them as often as not. The "I am ubar" posts by ET are usually more fubar than ubar.
Beyond Horizon Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.05 19:06:00 - [208] Originally by: Myal Terego Originally by: Fargas ^^ whiner ALERT !!!!!11111 well, BoB captured EC outpost and killed 20+ poses during siege. Why you can't do it? Oh wait, you can't Lil different when they barely fight back, and we all know you guys are the pos masters, noone will dispute that. So it settles it then - you admited we have better skills than you and that's why we are the winners. Why whine about nurfage and disbalance then? Excuse? - BH
Pr1at Bunny Caldari Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.05 20:23:00 - [209] Ive every now and then in me old days took out a ship with whatever was available but that scorp .. ____________________ * KIA - The Clash * http://www.kia-clan.org/ Were currently recruiting for BF 2 / ET : QW .
Myal Terego PAX Interstellar Services Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.05 20:28:00 - [210] Its just not fun, I could care less about losing ships, Space ninja wars with pos, quit being fun a long time ago(never was). Its the prime reason noone likes you guys, that and your complex ninjas are lame too. Quit fighting Timezone pos warfare, and then chest beating on the forums, and well probably have more fun. You guys almost always lose fleet fights because without a pos to back you up, you guys lose. Look at the last few fleet fights you guys brag about at forums. WHOA! I think all of them are at your pos. GG guys! You wtf pwn with 10 x-large artillerys and carriers to fight battleship gangs! So before you post cry more nub replies, why dont you guys actually show up for a real fight instead of logging out.



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