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Xiaodown
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Posted - 2006.08.04 05:41:00 -
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Whelp...
The coalition has started a new offensive against RA. We're currently camping C-J6MT. See:
This pic!
Right now, we have -V-, KOS, Chimp, LV, and whoever-owns-cache-this-week in the Coalition.
But, we've just received word that ASCN are tired of RA running their complexes every day, and are sending a scouting fleet up to help, in preparation for a possible ASCN full deployment.
According to the alliance statistics, that's roughly 10,000 pilots vs. RA's 870.
Hopefully, this time, we can evict them from all their stations. There have been lots of pretty heavy blows against RA recently - I know that we in -V- have tried to lock down our 10/10 complex; losing the f2a station was a big blow; and now, recently... they lost something like 10 billion worth of POS gear (by leaving it unanchored at a safe spot). See:
This picture =)
And now, with the full weight of the coalition closing down complexes and interrupting their mining, putting pressure on C-J, and the addition of ASCN to the group... maybe we can kick them out for good.
It really boils down to RA have made too many enemies in EVE, and they can't sustain losses like this for too much longer.
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Xiaodown
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Posted - 2006.08.04 05:48:00 -
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ERA.
ERA owns Cache region. Sorry, it's been a fluid situation up there. |
Tao Han
Caldari
Crucial Electronics
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Posted - 2006.08.04 06:05:00 -
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Good luck with that
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Ravsen
Caldari
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 06:27:00 -
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Tbh ... This didn't need its own topic about it.. 
But Good fight yesterday in 8-WYQZ RA .. long time since i've had that much fun with you ! :)
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 06:31:00 -
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Well unless the op puts up his corp and alliance I think my post here will simply vanish pretty soon :)
GL on the new offensive though 
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Obivan Efa
The Machines
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Posted - 2006.08.04 06:46:00 -
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Edited by: Obivan Efa on 04/08/2006 06:47:53
Coalition + ASCN = 10000 vs. RA's = 870?
I think it's fair enough now...
According to RA's killboard they have 287 active pilots.
I don't know how much active pilots have Coalition..
And according to Coalition statistics - Coalition has not much action in other not RA wars.
OMG Coalition using "Human Wave - Cannon Fodder doctrine" 
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Gor Manufacturer
Minmatar
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 06:50:00 -
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Edited by: Gor Manufacturer on 04/08/2006 06:50:09
It is more than 10 to 1
You are the REAL MEN with STEEL BALLS
Director R.N
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 06:56:00 -
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Nice setup on that scorpion.
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Farscape Hw
Solidline Enterprise
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Posted - 2006.08.04 06:58:00 -
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 Originally by: Xiaodown
Whelp...
The coalition has started a new offensive against RA. We're currently camping C-J6MT. See:
This pic!
Right now, we have -V-, KOS, Chimp, LV, and whoever-owns-cache-this-week in the Coalition.
But, we've just received word that ASCN are tired of RA running their complexes every day, and are sending a scouting fleet up to help, in preparation for a possible ASCN full deployment.
According to the alliance statistics, that's roughly 10,000 pilots vs. RA's 870.
Hopefully, this time, we can evict them from all their stations. There have been lots of pretty heavy blows against RA recently - I know that we in -V- have tried to lock down our 10/10 complex; losing the f2a station was a big blow; and now, recently... they lost something like 10 billion worth of POS gear (by leaving it unanchored at a safe spot). See:
This picture =)
And now, with the full weight of the coalition closing down complexes and interrupting their mining, putting pressure on C-J, and the addition of ASCN to the group... maybe we can kick them out for good.
It really boils down to RA have made too many enemies in EVE, and they can't sustain losses like this for too much longer.
and im sure RA cant sleep at night knowing your maxx 0 of 3 drones in space, 17 bubble and a whole 2 jammers on your SCORP will completly destroy thier alliance. the FEOR of the coalition has been struck in thier red hearts for the sight of your ALL POWERFULL enertia stabalizer.
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Stella Centauri
Spontaneous Defenestration
Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 06:59:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar
Nice setup on that scorpion.
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 07:02:00 -
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Edited by: Darkrydar on 04/08/2006 07:04:07
I woulda put the obligitory  in, but I didnt want to hurt his feelings.
If you were to take a screenshot of an npc's scorpion, I'd imagine it would look similar.
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Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2006.08.04 07:03:00 -
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you can only hope u never have to fight with that scorp.
good luck camping RA tho, its not like they dont deserve it.
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Tiffany Jesuit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2006.08.04 07:04:00 -
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indeed, wonderful scorp setup
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Smith
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 07:15:00 -
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Did you get that Scorp from the RA safespot aswell and didnt have time to change it?
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Major Tarsis
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 07:24:00 -
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You know Scorpions are a very versitile Ship and can use a wide variety of setups for a wide range of roles.
This is ust one such setup however we are still looking for the role.....Answers on a Postcard and Evemail to Smith.
He loves collecting Scorpion setups from what I hear.
MT
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Orest
Cataclysm Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.04 07:27:00 -
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Originally by: Xiaodown
According to the alliance statistics, that's roughly 10,000 pilots vs. RA's 870.
well in this case all I can say is: Give'em hell RA 
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Randay
Band of Builders Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.04 07:29:00 -
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post with your main
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Logan Williams
Fate.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.04 07:36:00 -
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Yeah, a Griffin could have done about as much as the scorp.
Nice post though, not too smackish. Dry and informative....decent. |
Pastora
Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 07:42:00 -
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Edited by: Pastora on 04/08/2006 07:42:34
Originally by: Randay
post with your main
They are too weak for that. Ough, and the OP >> give your friends some credit, it is not 10000, but something like 13000+ now. As 10+ to 1 was not enough, they had to bring even more people in, to make it 15+ to 1. Does it make us equal now?
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Drilla
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 07:44:00 -
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How to fix your fitting:
Remove cap recharger (if you need cap use cap power relays on a scorp)
Remove shield hardener (err why would you want to have that? If you are primary in a fleet combat it wont save you)
Remove target painter (your ship is only there to supply eletronic warfare, not damage, remove that module)
Remove nos (You have 3 sensorboosters so you can lock at 200+ km and you have a nos?)
Regarding low, as I see it there's multiple solutions, personally I like this one best:
1600mm Rolled Tungsten, Damage Control, 2x Cap Power Relay.
There you have a useful scorp
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Vailan
Catalyst Reaction
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Drilla
How to fix your fitting:
Remove cap recharger (if you need cap use cap power relays on a scorp)
Remove shield hardener (err why would you want to have that? If you are primary in a fleet combat it wont save you)
Remove target painter (your ship is only there to supply eletronic warfare, not damage, remove that module)
Remove nos (You have 3 sensorboosters so you can lock at 200+ km and you have a nos?)
Regarding low, as I see it there's multiple solutions, personally I like this one best:
1600mm Rolled Tungsten, Damage Control, 2x Cap Power Relay.
There you have a useful scorp
What are you talking about? He has a wonderful scorp setup :P
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ZaKma
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 08:00:00 -
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That is a .... interesting setup. 
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Obivan Efa
The Machines
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Posted - 2006.08.04 08:01:00 -
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A strange situation we have here...
One of the biggest Coalition in EVE ever with a great supply and resource basis and huge capital ship fleet can't deal with a small "bloodless" Alliance.
Further still... RA contrives to kill much more ships, get triumph victories in Capitalship combats, take back region...
RA seems to be a really tough nut.
Or maybe Coalition have weak teeth?
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Emsigma
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.04 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: Xiaodown
Hopefully, this time, we can evict them from all their stations. There have been lots of pretty heavy blows against RA recently - I know that we in -V- have tried to lock down our 10/10 complex; losing the f2a station was a big blow; and now, recently... they lost something like 10 billion worth of POS gear (by leaving it unanchored at a safe spot).
And now, with the full weight of the coalition closing down complexes and interrupting their mining, putting pressure on C-J, and the addition of ASCN to the group... maybe we can kick them out for good.
Is this not yesterdays news served today?
Lucky you I am out of pics of dead horses getting beaten, so give me a few minutes to photoshop one before your next fresh news announcement
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Delezar
Hellfire-Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.04 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Gor Manufacturer
Edited by: Gor Manufacturer on 04/08/2006 06:50:09
It is more than 10 to 1
You are the REAL MEN with STEEL BALLS
From what I have read so far in the forums and regarding the reputation of RED I don't think the Coalition is trying to get recognised for equal and fun fight, looks more like they are trying to force you to leave as hard as possible. If it will be effective, I have no idea, since guerilla warfare is still very effective in eve. |
Darcuese
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 08:20:00 -
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Edited by: Darcuese on 04/08/2006 08:24:23
Nice bubbles
Originally by: Gor Manufacturer
Edited by: Gor Manufacturer on 04/08/2006 06:50:09
It is more than 10 to 1
You are the REAL MEN with STEEL BALLS
To RA....does it matter how many numbers of pilots opponents have?
At the begining of war difference wasnt that big as it is now. Why did other corps/alliances joined coalition and not RA is your problem and not coalition. apperantly it is lot more interesting to fly with coalition then with RA.
Since I joined this game I havent seen RA doing much anything different then doing now...and that is some sort of POS war logistic.
You will now come here and post that it was/is needed to be able to sustain control of regions while fighting outnumbered.
But in the end, point is you dont seem very interesting alliance to be part off, otherwise you would have more members.
I congrats you on your will and stubornes to do things others wouldnt bother to do....but other then that you seem to me very DULL players with many SP and only some of you willing to use those skill points to play with other ppl.
My opinion that dont count (Especialy by Velios which I like to mention in every posible chance) but still is good feeling to post it here
DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
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Ravsen
Caldari
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 08:27:00 -
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well
Ppl might think that its 13 000 vs 870ish ppl .. but the main thing here is noone thinks about the load of RA alt corps aswell .. that are not in RA ..helping with logistics fighting etc. but yes we outnumber them very much .. but most of the times we dont outblob them that much .. ofc. we field more ppl .. but alot of our ppl are in T1 cruisers and T1 frigs compared to RA who has most of their Vets PVP'ing for them
Vets may just be most of what is left in RA .. but they fight with full T2 setups on their bs etc.
Just yesterday we had a good fight with RA we where 55 ish ppl fighting against their 35-40 ish in 8W-YQZ but we had alot of T1 cruisers and Frigs and we didn't have as many BS as RA had .. but damn we had fun .. fighting going on for nearly 30 mins at the C-J gate ..
So even though we have that many pilots doesent mean the fighting consists of 200 vs 20 if we hold the 10 to 1 thing you guys say..
Only thing we field ALOT more and blobbing them is if we lock down a system where we need to take out POS's and such..
just my 2 cents..
And btw .. GF yesterday .. damn fun .. and you MACTEP .. you are ebil in that apoc.. :)
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Jebidus Skari
Amarr
KTHNXDIE
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Posted - 2006.08.04 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar
Nice setup on that scorpion.
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Aeon Yakati
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 08:38:00 -
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RA and especially Pastora: bitterness shines through your jokes.
We all know that the only reason RA is still in 0.0 is because they have always used and relied on borderline tactics and game mechanics.
How did you create that 250AU safespot again?
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RichThugster
Gallente
Lore Islander and Nakor Kren Present
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Posted - 2006.08.04 08:40:00 -
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when i read the first half of the post i assumed it was a coalition guy. After that i had to actually look it up in game, since i thought it was some sarcastic post by Red Alliance.
Simply put WOW. numbers already far outblobbing red alliance, they start celebrating that ASCN are getting involved. ASCN are probably getting involved due to the coalitions incompetance.
over 6 months ago the coalition started pushing on RA, sure the numbers may not have been as they are now, but RA im pretty confident have always been outnumbered. I used to despise RA for their Logoffski tactics whenever u entered their local, now however i have nothing but respect for them, and the superb job they have done in holding out so long.
Xiaodown, that scorp setup, you should be ashamed. The nos i can understand, to put on any ceptors that get close, but the target painter? the cap recharger? seriously WTF, the shied hardener, as the shinra guy said, if your primary it wont save you.
Unless this is all a cunning scheeme, so RA dont call you primary, since they think "he cant even rig a scorp for fleetbattles, next target"
Originally by: KIATolon
I just got owned
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Luna Negra
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Pastora
Edited by: Pastora on 04/08/2006 07:42:34
Originally by: Randay
post with your main
They are too weak for that. Ough, and the OP >> give your friends some credit, it is not 10000, but something like 13000+ now. As 10+ to 1 was not enough, they had to bring even more people in, to make it 15+ to 1. Does it make us equal now?
Cry me a river
Gravity you win again! |
wierchas noobhunter
Caldari
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.08.04 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Tiffany Jesuit
indeed, wonderful scorp setup
more like omg wtf poor scop 
join col ! now |
Obivan Efa
The Machines
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Posted - 2006.08.04 08:45:00 -
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I'm quite sure that coalition has much more Vet's in their fleets then RA has...
Much more Capitals...
And as I know RA pilots always invent somthing new... new tactic, new maneures... so it's interesting...
But war for region is a hard work, not just fun... not just "have a biggest gun - come and kill u all"...
I understand that Coalition wish to remove RA from that space.
But as I know and as we see RA would not go out there no metter what will happen.
They will live there even without any stations, will sleep in outter space and Coalition will not be able to do smthing with it...
So what's the point of confrontation?
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.08.04 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar
Nice setup on that scorpion.
was just thinking the same thing.
d solo.
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ZaKma
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: Obivan Efa
And as I know RA pilots always invent somthing new... new tactic, new maneures... so it's interesting...
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
LoneStar Industries
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.04 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: Obivan Efa
So what's the point of confrontation?
Make them stationless?
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Luna Negra
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 08:54:00 -
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Something to thing about RA members:
1. Have never really wondered what is the root cause for all of this?
2. Why is so many alliances and corporations united to the task of fighting you?
3. Why dont you retaliate the numbers by asking your own friends to help you?
Look in the miror and ask these questions from your self...
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Pastora
Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 08:58:00 -
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Edited by: Pastora on 04/08/2006 08:58:50
Originally by: Aeon Yakati
RA and especially Pastora: bitterness shines through your jokes.
What?! You are starting to imagine things, dude.
Ahh, let me check. Yes, you are one of those, who run away do other parts of EVE.
Originally by: Aeon Yakati
How did you create that 250AU safespot again?
Dunno, really. I have not done any safespots. But you might ask your friends in your former alliance, or the guys from the coalition: How do they create such safespots?
EDIT: fixed quotes, darn.
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If ifs and ands were pots and pans,
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ParMizaN
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.04 09:00:00 -
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Edited by: ParMizaN on 04/08/2006 09:02:13
I think after a nuclear attack the only thing left will be c- ockroaches and RA
Really gotta admire their perserverance.
edit, forgot filter >.<
sig edited for lack of pink really
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Pastora
Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 09:01:00 -
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Edited by: Pastora on 04/08/2006 09:02:47
Originally by: Luna Negra
2. Why is so many alliances and corporations united to the task of fighting you?
I can certainly answer this: Most people look for easy gaming... That's why they join the "stronger" side.
Actually, it answers all your questions.
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Obivan Efa
The Machines
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Posted - 2006.08.04 09:05:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Make them stationless?[/quote
Was already and what?
RA still in that space.
Best thing that Coalition can ever get - to take back region and have a lot of partizans in there own space...
So those agressive RA pilots will bother u all the time... so u'll never be able to control region for safe.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
LoneStar Industries
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.04 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Obivan Efa
So those agressive RA pilots will bother u all the time... so u'll never be able to control region for safe.
Speculations. At the end, all will be revealed.
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Fargas
Minmatar
RUS Academy
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 09:12:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Luna Negra
Edited by: Luna Negra on 04/08/2006 08:56:23
Something to thing about, RA members:
1. Have you never really wondered what is the root cause for all of this?
2. Why is so many alliances and corporations united to the task of fighting you?
3. Why dont you retaliate the numbers by asking your own friends to help you?
Look in the miror and ask these questions from your self...
dude, 95% of RA dont read this forum at all. so its useless to post here your propaganda crap.
from a RA pilot view:
1. Some our enemyes / backstabbers banded toghether after RA won war vs .5.
2. Becouse our enemyes doomed to loose fighting RA on even odds.
3. RA before war vs coalition started consisted of ~900 russian speaking players and about same number of english/french speaking players. After some time english/french left due to language barrier. So there is no point to start it over again.
klik, ....
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
LoneStar Industries
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.04 09:12:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Pastora
Edited by: Pastora on 04/08/2006 09:02:47
Originally by: Luna Negra
2. Why is so many alliances and corporations united to the task of fighting you?
I can certainly answer this: Most people look for easy gaming... That's why they join the "stronger" side.
Actually, it answers all your questions.
Or may be RA fail at diplomacy? Could also be bad karma.
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Omeega
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.08.04 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Pastora
Edited by: Pastora on 04/08/2006 09:02:47
Originally by: Luna Negra
2. Why is so many alliances and corporations united to the task of fighting you?
I can certainly answer this: Most people look for easy gaming... That's why they join the "stronger" side.
Actually, it answers all your questions.
Or may be RA fail at diplomacy? Could also be bad karma.
From the begining they never wanted peace with you. or either with shinra and co.
They don't like you, that's it. They also need an enemy to not go deep into carebearing like I do...
And yeah, fargas has a point, there is the equivalant(?) site for EVE-Online.com in russian and that's where are their fellows are.
And eh, yeah, RA vs the coallition of good (\o/) has nothing to do with RA vs The5 first of all because POS don't work exactly the same anymore and secondly because The5 included ATUK, wich was and still is, a pain in the ass when you have them in front of you.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 09:25:00 -
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Edited by: Darcuese on 04/08/2006 09:27:15
Originally by: Fargas
dude, 95% of RA dont read this forum at all. so its useless to post here your propaganda crap.
from a RA pilot view:
1. Some our enemyes / backstabbers banded toghether after RA won war vs .5.
2. Becouse our enemyes doomed to loose fighting RA on even odds.
3. RA before war vs coalition started consisted of ~900 russian speaking players and about same number of english/french speaking players. After some time english/french left due to language barrier. So there is no point to start it over again.
I thought you become bigger after "Wining War" against 5. YOu declared War on 5 as i remember...and you stop paying -> War no more.
So i dont see where have you pulled this wining the war line...Ah I see it. Silly me. You ment when 5 gone away to fight 3 alliances.
so much about dimplomacy issue and problems you have it cause of it.
After this "war" you become bigger as i remember ...spread your Poses and soveregnity through more then enough regions with size of your alliance.
Then Few corp aproach you to talk about soke sort of deal.
As i remember , I saw many posts in that conversation by CEO's of new corps just recently joined RA. ( A bit more humble next time when serious talk is on line)
So, your nose was to high in the air thinking you would have more then enough poses to control that many regions (covering it with PRIDE aqnd HONOR you mentioned so often).
Well, as I said, My respect for stubornes and logistic effort. You should use that in cooperation with somebody else next time....after you are gone from south corner (At least i hope)
EDIT: And hi Omeega...Damn, how much i need to pay to see you at least once in space
DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
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Darkrydar
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 09:37:00 -
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Edited by: Darkrydar on 04/08/2006 09:41:50
From afar I gotta say, I admire RA determination. I have a hard time seeing anyone ever finshing them off for good. Personally, I'd rather be in RA's shoes than the other way around. More targets = more fun.
As for the war RA vs 5, no need to refight that guys. They did what they had to do, we could have spammed towers had we wanted to. In the end, we fractured and ATUK/BOS/Black Reign went on to have a lot of fun destroying some loudmouths up north. I wouldn't change a thing about how that all worked out.
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Omeega
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.08.04 09:38:00 -
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well come to agil and corridor...?
because then if that is just saying "omg you fkucing stay on the forums and never ingame" then you could just write it.
But you're also missing some important decisions who were made by RA concerning "owing all the regions" so i don't think you can realy understand what/wich decisions were made.
I'm talking politely there, no personnal offense.
p.s. will you sftu already! :)
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Fargas
Minmatar
RUS Academy
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 09:47:00 -
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.5. are dead
there are no need to write such long posts about it here, cos noone really cares
end of story
klik, ....
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 09:49:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Fargas
.5. are dead
there are no need to write such long posts about it here, cos noone really cares
end of story
So think before you post next time and there will be no need for long posts
DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
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Fargas
Minmatar
RUS Academy
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 09:53:00 -
[51]
dont waste your time writing it
klik, ....
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lazyb22
M. Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 09:55:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Fargas
Originally by: Luna Negra
1. Some our enemyes / backstabbers banded toghether after RA won war vs .5.
The only reason you "won" the war against the 5 is that you spamed pos and logged off. There is no fun in that so when people get bored we leave and find fun. This is what the 5 chose to do when we left cache the first time. WE GOT BORED!!!
The funny thing is this time we will finish it. RA alliance WILL never die but what it is and and what it was will never be the same. RA will live in Empire or spend Billions of isk in the new regions, either way they will not be farming complexes and mining in our space anywhere. So no income not much to do but figure out you need to change your attitude. Then and only then may you grow to the powerful respected alliance you once were.
I have tons of respect for most of the RA pilots as they are some of the most skilled pilots in the game and they come up with wonderful gameplans. Kudoos!!! but in the end its your attitude that got you into this.
Hopefully your attitude will get you out of it someday.
Lazyb22
Director MCORP
VERY PROUD PILOT OF LOTKA VOLTERRA
PROUD EX 5 MEMBER
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Aeon Yakati
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 09:58:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Aeon Yakati
How did you create that 250AU safespot again?
Dunno, really. I have not done any safespots. But you might ask your friends in your former alliance, or the guys from the coalition: How do they create such safespots?
EDIT: fixed quotes, darn.
Bitter and short term memory?
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Brisi
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.08.04 10:03:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Darkrydar
Nice setup on that scorpion.
My thought exactly.
I am Brisi, I am as One. Resistance is fertile.
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 10:08:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Darcuese on 04/08/2006 10:08:38
Originally by: Fargas
dont waste your time writing it
I dont mind waste mine...I obviously waste your too...and it give me pleasure indeed
DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
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Fargas
Minmatar
RUS Academy
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 10:10:00 -
[56]
Originally by: lazyb22
The only reason you "won" the war against the 5 is that you spamed pos and logged off. There is no fun in that so when people get bored we leave and find fun. This is what the 5 chose to do when we left cache the first time. WE GOT BORED!!!
The funny thing is this time we will finish it. RA alliance WILL never die but what it is and and what it was will never be the same. RA will live in Empire or spend Billions of isk in the new regions, either way they will not be farming complexes and mining in our space anywhere. So no income not much to do but figure out you need to change your attitude. Then and only then may you grow to the powerful respected alliance you once were.
I have tons of respect for most of the RA pilots as they are some of the most skilled pilots in the game and they come up with wonderful gameplans. Kudoos!!! but in the end its your attitude that got you into this.
Hopefully your attitude will get you out of it someday.
Lazyb22
Director MCORP
VERY PROUD PILOT OF LOTKA VOLTERRA
PROUD EX 5 MEMBER
dude, RA right now = RA before this war without english/french speakers
russians are not going anywhere
and btw you can't make anyone to sit in empire, your coalition are too weak for it, or mby you gona camp all chokepoints wuth mobiles 24/7? /emote runs in fear
ha ha
klik, ....
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 10:17:00 -
[57]
the key to beat ra is and has always been to force ra out of the 10/10 complexes,
its pretty borin, i know - but it must b done to win.
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Obivan Efa
The Machines
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Posted - 2006.08.04 10:51:00 -
[58]
Are there exact terms of victory for this war?
Victory for Coalition - RA's leaving that space, RA disbanding (that's an utopia)
Victory for RA - Coalition loosing interest to that space and to war against RA
Am I right?
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Papa Digger
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 11:00:00 -
[59]
ASCN join Coalition.. next time you take BOB & MC & maybe Goons to blob each system in south east. I just wondering how much "good EVE people" need to wipe out "Universe Evil" (RA).
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Raxxar
Friends Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.04 11:03:00 -
[60]
Where did bubbles go? Station seems pretty clean...
Are going home already? Or was it another photoshop tyout?
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Gralgathor
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 11:12:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Raxxar
Where did bubbles go? Station seems pretty clean...
Are going home already? Or was it another photoshop tyout?
There's this thing called Downtime. Maybe you've heard of it.
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Beyond Horizon
Solar Dragons
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 11:13:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Beyond Horizon on 04/08/2006 11:13:27
Originally by: ParMizaN
Edited by: ParMizaN on 04/08/2006 09:02:13
I think after a nuclear attack the only thing left will be c- ockroaches and RA
Really gotta admire their perserverance.
edit, forgot filter >.<
luv your posts mate, you always make me smile
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Pastora
Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 11:21:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Gralgathor
There's this thing called Downtime. Maybe you've heard of it.
Did downtime start at ~08:00 GMT today?
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Gralgathor
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 11:28:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Gralgathor
There's this thing called Downtime. Maybe you've heard of it.
Did downtime start at ~08:00 GMT today?
No, that was when nebba farted and we had to evacuate the system to prevent mass-vomiting. You know how hard vomit is to clean up from your ship's windshield. Once I ctrl-clicked on a red spot for minutes before I realized it was a regurgitated piece of yesterday's argentinian steak.
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Tao Han
Caldari
Crucial Electronics
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Posted - 2006.08.04 11:32:00 -
[65]
So lets have a vote here
As everyone knows there are more Coalition members than RA members. What would you do?
a: Coalition should kick members so that they dont outnumber RA.
b: RA should recruit members
c: Coalition get their logistics and industrial members into alt corps so that they dont look big.
d: RA get their industial/logistic members back into the alliance so that they look as big as they actually are.
e: RA gets some of their magic and legendary diplomacy skills going and form a coalition of their own.
f: (my favourite) Everyone stops whining about numbers and get the show on the road.
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Yes, I'm one of the coalition fanboys but the number whinage is just sad, and that includes both sides and the RA fanboys.
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.08.04 11:38:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Pastora
Edited by: Pastora on 04/08/2006 07:42:34
Originally by: Randay
post with your main
They are too weak for that. Ough, and the OP >> give your friends some credit, it is not 10000, but something like 13000+ now. As 10+ to 1 was not enough, they had to bring even more people in, to make it 15+ to 1. Does it make us equal now?
We are not here to fight you fairly and with equal numbers.. we are here to kick you out, is that so hard to grasp?
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Azuriel Talloth
M. Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 11:38:00 -
[67]
Legendary Scorp setup you have there 
CCP Please rename "Warp Disrupt Probes" to "Interdiction Spheres", thanks! |
Obivan Efa
The Machines
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Posted - 2006.08.04 11:42:00 -
[68]
I have another voting...
How many ships Coalition have to lose before they realize the pointless of their activities?
1. <1 000
2. 1 001 - 10 000
3. 10 001 - 100 000
4. 100 001 - 1 000 000
5. 1 000 001 - gazzilion
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2006.08.04 11:43:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Darcuese
At the begining of war difference wasnt that big as it is now. Why did other corps/alliances joined coalition and not RA is your problem and not coalition. apperantly it is lot more interesting to fly with coalition then with RA.
Nope, people just want to be on the winning side.
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Pastora
Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 11:49:00 -
[70]
Originally by: LWMaverick
We are not here to fight you fairly and with equal numbers.. we are here to kick you out, is that so hard to grasp?
Erghm, who is talking about fairness? It was your fellow coallition members that were complaining about us playing "unfair" to them. Do you need link to the topic?
I just asked you if you think you are still underpowered, or is it enough now. Is it that hard to understand?
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 11:51:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Darcuese on 04/08/2006 11:57:05
Edited by: Darcuese on 04/08/2006 11:56:17
Originally by: welsh wizard
Originally by: Darcuese
At the begining of war difference wasnt that big as it is now. Why did other corps/alliances joined coalition and not RA is your problem and not coalition. apperantly it is lot more interesting to fly with coalition then with RA.
Nope, people just want to be on the winning side.
And when did they become wining side?...Im really curious about this....what was the cruical point when you could say one side is wining and other side is losing?
@ Pastora.....Maveric just answered pure and simple to Your whining about numbers since early days of this war...EARLY ...(Sometimes I wonder if you related to Velios by any mean)
Originally by: Tassitus Mallinar
We're not playing Eve, we're playing "Goons in Space." It just so happens to be in the Eve Universe, but it's still Goons in space |
Pastora
Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 11:57:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Gralgathor
No, that was when nebba farted and we had to evacuate the system to prevent mass-vomiting. You know how hard vomit is to clean up from your ship's windshield.
Ough, thanks then!!!
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:00:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Darcuese
Originally by: welsh wizard
Originally by: Darcuese
At the begining of war difference wasnt that big as it is now. Why did other corps/alliances joined coalition and not RA is your problem and not coalition. apperantly it is lot more interesting to fly with coalition then with RA.
Nope, people just want to be on the winning side.
And when did they become wining side?...Im really curious about this....what was the cruical point when you could say one side is wining and other side is losing?
People are sheep, they follow the masses and they follow propaganda blindly. Facts have little to do with it.
Dress it up all you want RA will always have our respect for staying alive while you lot try so desperately to remove them. When you finally do (which I fear is inevitable) it'll be a sad day for Eve.
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Omeega
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:04:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Gralgathor
No, that was when nebba farted and we had to evacuate the system to prevent mass-vomiting. You know how hard vomit is to clean up from your ship's windshield.
Ough, thanks then!!!
Pastora, i think to win vs LV and the sexy farting nebba, you should offer them chili filled with beans.
Just a tip there uh :)
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Beyond Horizon
Solar Dragons
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:04:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Toffles
The people who are falling for flame bait are just as stupid as the trolls. Before you click the "quote" button and type out your 5 paragraph rebutal just sit back and realize you are completely wasting your time. These threads accomplish nothing, no ones opinion gets changed, they do absolutely no good. It is much more effective to just ignore the trolls and let them to make their corp/alliance look bad.
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Pastora
Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:08:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Gralgathor
No, that was when nebba farted and we had to evacuate the system to prevent mass-vomiting. You know how hard vomit is to clean up from your ship's windshield.
Ough, thanks then!!!
Pastora, i think to win vs LV and the sexy farting nebba, you should offer them chili filled with beans.
Just a tip there uh :)
Be careful there, Omeega. Now you start to talk about exploit tactics! 
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Komolov
Gallente
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:14:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Xiaodown
Whelp...
The coalition has started a new offensive against RA. We're currently camping C-J6MT. See:
This pic!
These loosers can not setup proper camp. They put 20+ bubbles around station and anyway anyone who was docked in station from my corp was able to undock and warp out (!) to safety unharmed
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:19:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Darcuese on 04/08/2006 12:19:59
Originally by: welsh wizard
Originally by: Darcuese
Originally by: welsh wizard
Originally by: Darcuese
At the begining of war difference wasnt that big as it is now. Why did other corps/alliances joined coalition and not RA is your problem and not coalition. apperantly it is lot more interesting to fly with coalition then with RA.
Nope, people just want to be on the winning side.
And when did they become wining side?...Im really curious about this....what was the cruical point when you could say one side is wining and other side is losing?
People are sheep, they follow the masses and they follow propaganda blindly. Facts have little to do with it.
Dress it up all you want RA will always have our respect for staying alive while you lot try so desperately to remove them. When you finally do (which I fear is inevitable) it'll be a sad day for Eve.
Now,now...first you say ppl are joining wining side...then you say ppl follow propaganda blindly (which might mean that Coalition is losing but cause of forum ppl are joining them anyway thinking they joining wining side).....Fact got nothing to do with it (So, ppl are not joining wining side at all then).
In the end....Sad day for Eve you say will be the day when RA is removed....Personaly I dont see it that way cause I havent seen RA doing anything in last 1.5 year of my expiriance other to earn ISK and puting Poses up --> not playing any political or anykind roleplay game(But that is just my persepctive which ofcourse might be wrong)
Originally by: Tassitus Mallinar
We're not playing Eve, we're playing "Goons in Space." It just so happens to be in the Eve Universe, but it's still Goons in space |
Nebba Kenezzer
Minmatar
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:22:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Omeega
pastora, i think to win vs LV and the sexy farting nebba, you should offer them chili filled with beans.
Just a tip there uh :)
I'm dead sexy.
Will you be stopping by next weekend for the pants party?
Nebba - The Vocal Majority
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Omeega
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:27:00 -
[80]
well...
from all i remind you, we killed you a few times (don't get me wrong youguys also bashed my ass and my alt's :) )
and i also remind me your powerfull presence on RA's subjects so... saying they didn't do anything in 1.5year might be wrong. They chained two huge blobbing wars... am i wrong? their home is cache and they are still there.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Nebba Kenezzer
Minmatar
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:30:00 -
[81]
You know I don't speak spanish.
Nebba - The Vocal Majority
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:31:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Darcuese on 04/08/2006 12:34:18
Not as didnt do anything Omeega.
As I said, I respect them for stubornes and determenation to do things majority of pilots wouldnt ever do. And dont want telling them how to play this game. I wanted to say that from my perspective ...RA or not RA....same thing=no loss
Actualy....Disbandig of RA would do better for EVE if those guys would become part of some alliance or make another alliance with somebody else with logistic and will that they have. (My opinion ofc)
Originally by: Tassitus Mallinar
We're not playing Eve, we're playing "Goons in Space." It just so happens to be in the Eve Universe, but it's still Goons in space |
Omeega
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:39:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Darcuese
Edited by: Darcuese on 04/08/2006 12:34:18
Not as didnt do anything Omeega.
As I said, I respect them for stubornes and determenation to do things majority of pilots wouldnt ever do. And dont want telling them how to play this game. I wanted to say that from my perspective ...RA or not RA....same thing=no loss
Actualy....Disbandig of RA would do better for EVE if those guys would become part of some alliance or make another alliance with somebody else with logistic and will that they have. (My opinion ofc)
i see your opinion. Their stuborness(?) could be usefull for other alliances. That's what you meant. It's true :) That's why i think you can't say their disband would be usefull.
They fight for what is right and at this point there is no point of going back i think...
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:56:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Omeega
i see your opinion. Their stuborness(?) could be usefull for other alliances. That's what you meant. It's true :) That's why i think you can't say their disband would be usefull.
They fight for what is right and at this point there is no point of going back i think...
Yes, this is a thing of individual perspective ofc.
Tell me then please, what exactly they are fighting for?
What is their objective? (Not now , but when 5 went from south fighting in north). What was their objective back then? To take all south as much as possible with puting poses up and making others unable to get soveregnity? I mean, whit 2 regions only they wouldnt have problems that they have now. With 3 regions even they might have had a NAP with LV....but more then that?? That is what i dont get it
Can you see them relocating somehwere else in future and try somehting else or just living in that dark sout corner for ever...and slowly earning ISK over and over again?
These questions bother me to be honest
Originally by: Tassitus Mallinar
We're not playing Eve, we're playing "Goons in Space." It just so happens to be in the Eve Universe, but it's still Goons in space |
Omeega
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.08.04 13:04:00 -
[85]
They didn't want a NAP with LV or -v-.
Nada. Niet. Nichts.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.04 13:05:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Omeega
They didn't want a NAP with LV or -v-.
Nada. Niet. Nichts.
Well, to stop posting to much I will contact you in game in a 3 week when i got back from vacations to have a quick little chat maybe
Originally by: Tassitus Mallinar
We're not playing Eve, we're playing "Goons in Space." It just so happens to be in the Eve Universe, but it's still Goons in space |
Omeega
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.08.04 13:10:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Darcuese
Originally by: Omeega
They didn't want a NAP with LV or -v-.
Nada. Niet. Nichts.
Well, to stop posting to much I will contact you in game in a 3 week when i got back from vacations to have a quick little chat maybe
have some good vacations bud :)
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Beyond Horizon
Solar Dragons
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 13:45:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Darcuese
Originally by: Omeega
i see your opinion. Their stuborness(?) could be usefull for other alliances. That's what you meant. It's true :) That's why i think you can't say their disband would be usefull.
They fight for what is right and at this point there is no point of going back i think...
Yes, this is a thing of individual perspective ofc.
Tell me then please, what exactly they are fighting for?
What is their objective? (Not now , but when 5 went from south fighting in north). What was their objective back then? To take all south as much as possible with puting poses up and making others unable to get soveregnity? I mean, whit 2 regions only they wouldnt have problems that they have now. With 3 regions even they might have had a NAP with LV....but more then that?? That is what i dont get it
Can you see them relocating somehwere else in future and try somehting else or just living in that dark sout corner for ever...and slowly earning ISK over and over again?
These questions bother me to be honest
It was wrong to try to control of the south - it is impossible and we admited it dozens of times, but we do have a goal and we presented it to coalition as NAP terms(we want insmother and cache under our full control), in return coalition has offered us slave rights in cache only, we refused - end of story.
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Delthus
Species 5618
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.04 13:50:00 -
[89]
uhh ASCN is not invovled with anything
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Pegas
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 13:52:00 -
[90]
Do you remember BH what did LV wanted from RA before we moved to Tenefris? U need to see the irony in that.
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Komolov
Gallente
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 14:18:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Komolov on 04/08/2006 14:18:36
Originally by: Pegas
Do you remember BH what did LV wanted from RA before we moved to Tenefris? U need to see the irony in that.
We made a vote. And majority voted to reject your request. May be that's why many people still furiously fighing - they made their choice and feel responsibility for it. They'll lose self-esteem if they'll give up.
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Pegas
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 14:43:00 -
[92]
I am not a "Coalition" diplomat but a few things Komolov:
U voted at that time , it was u`re choice.
About that furious fighting , how many are still doing it from old RA that made that vote? (I expect u to say that all of them and alot of the new that just joined)
Not going to argue about self esteem, because it will degenarate in a flame fest fast.
Both of us know that at this point it can`t be a NAP between us.
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Light Darkness
Seraphin Technologies
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.04 15:28:00 -
[93]
kudos to RA btw.
You do a great job and i have to say that RA fight like the hell.
Great job to the RA sniper fleet also.
But our forces (and coalition forces) still learning (and loosing some ships).
RA is a good training part for our future wars.
So let us have fun in C-J6 on both sides.
Regards
/LD
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Fargas
Minmatar
RUS Academy
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 15:39:00 -
[94]
this war is going on for about a year, and you are still learning? lol
klik, ....
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Light Darkness
Seraphin Technologies
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.04 15:43:00 -
[95]
IF RA use the game mechanics .
Yes we do.
Regards
/LD
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Altavius Pilot
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Posted - 2006.08.04 15:57:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Azuriel Talloth
Legendary Scorp setup you have there
I think my taranis has more ew than that scorp
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Fargas
Minmatar
RUS Academy
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 15:59:00 -
[97]
leave that lame excuse already
klik, ....
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MACTEP
Solar Dragons
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 16:07:00 -
[98]
Edited by: MACTEP on 04/08/2006 16:10:08
Originally by: Ravsen
well
Ppl might think that its 13 000 vs 870ish ppl .. but the main thing here is noone thinks about the load of RA alt corps aswell .. that are not in RA ..helping with logistics fighting etc. but yes we outnumber them very much .. but most of the times we dont outblob them that much .. ofc. we field more ppl .. but alot of our ppl are in T1 cruisers and T1 frigs compared to RA who has most of their Vets PVP'ing for them
Vets may just be most of what is left in RA .. but they fight with full T2 setups on their bs etc.
Just yesterday we had a good fight with RA we where 55 ish ppl fighting against their 35-40 ish in 8W-YQZ but we had alot of T1 cruisers and Frigs and we didn't have as many BS as RA had .. but damn we had fun .. fighting going on for nearly 30 mins at the C-J gate ..
So even though we have that many pilots doesent mean the fighting consists of 200 vs 20 if we hold the 10 to 1 thing you guys say..
Only thing we field ALOT more and blobbing them is if we lock down a system where we need to take out POS's and such..
just my 2 cents..
And btw .. GF yesterday .. damn fun .. and you MACTEP .. you are ebil in that apoc.. :)
thanks for your words .....but i was not command this gang )
Also you forgot to say about 2 interdictors which were jumping on our gang )...dictors 4tw!
2 minuts more staying on the gate and we were going to log off ...it was too late for us...
If we were loged off I represent how it were sounded in your TS
"-OMG guys we only were going to jump in and RA again warped out on safe and loged off.....cowards..."
Dont fight on enemy rules...don t give them fun and early or late to them it will bore and they ll find smbelse exept RA...PVP pilots will find other purpose for itself except RA...As well as our PVP pilots found always enemies to itself and
filled up killboard ...c/ RA policy...
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Latia
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.04 16:12:00 -
[99]
Give them hell RA! You know you're doing well when they have to out blob you 10/1.
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Papa Digger
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 16:19:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Light Darkness
kudos to RA btw.
But our forces (and coalition forces) still learning (and loosing some ships).
RA is a good training part for our future wars.
So let us have fun in C-J6 on both sides.
Regards
/LD
RA prepare to publish book series "Art of War. Welcome to hell"
Part 1. "Bang bang. Solo ftw." (by Atlus)
Part 2. "We have only 3:1 disadvantage, let's kill em all!" (by RA FCs)
Part 3. "Wonder of Transformations. Dreads to fireballs" (by RA Cap ships FC)
Part 4. "POSes for dummies" (by RA crazy logistics)
Pre-ordering 10bil per one book. :)
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CEO. |
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Pepperami
Art of War
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Posted - 2006.08.04 16:31:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Papa Digger
RA prepare to publish book series "Art of War. Welcome to hell"
Thanks for writing a book on us, you can forward the royalties onto myself.
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IamBen
Caldari
M. Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 16:36:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Latia
Give them hell RA! You know you're doing well when they have to out blob you 10/1.
Man we got good allies :)
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Vashi Dokumentu
The xDEATHx Squadron
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Posted - 2006.08.04 16:58:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Latia
Give them hell RA! You know you're doing well when they have to out blob you 10/1.
I lub u bro! 
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Omeega
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.08.04 17:01:00 -
[104]
Originally by: IamBen
Originally by: Latia
Give them hell RA! You know you're doing well when they have to out blob you 10/1.
Man we got good allies :)
lol yeah! :)
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Sneetches
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 17:05:00 -
[105]
Gah, posts like this are so unnecessary...
However, couple points.
- RA are great fighters and tenacious; no one can dispute that. They will continue on forever with guerilla tactics. This has been universally accepted. Is that best for them? Probably not. I expect they could be having much more fun elsewhere just like we could.
- Coalition size is actually working against it i think; try organizing 5+ alliances into a fighting force that is actually effective. Way too many carebears in it. Any muppet who thinks it needs the numbers to fight RA is, well, a muppet. However, so many people just plain dont like them or see an opportunity for territory that it just makes sense to invite them in for ****s and giggles.
- Best fights still happen when both sides decide "**** it" and go toe to toe with near equal numbers or hunt alone in the pipe/empire. I've found these fights are usually in the hours just after downtime. good fights in n-r!
- Blob and POS wars suck wide open arse!
- Can't wait for this thing to resolve and move on to areas where there isn't so much freakin blue
- And please, for the love of Pete, no more ridiculous threads like this from either side.
And thanks for showing the world my super-secret scorp set-up! Guess ill have to test out my shield tanking tachphoon!!
- Snee
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Stedanko
No Crying In Space
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Posted - 2006.08.04 17:15:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Vashi Dokumentu
Originally by: Latia
Give them hell RA! You know you're doing well when they have to out blob you 10/1.
I lub u bro!
..i.. noob
<3
Now stop forum whoring and get back to the game |
Randay
Band of Builders Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.04 17:20:00 -
[107]
dem forum modz be slippin.
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Vashi Dokumentu
The xDEATHx Squadron
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Posted - 2006.08.04 17:24:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Stedanko
Originally by: Vashi Dokumentu
Originally by: Latia
Give them hell RA! You know you're doing well when they have to out blob you 10/1.
I lub u bro!
..i.. noob
<3
Now stop forum whoring and get back to the game
me nub ?? u r nub, but i lub u 2 and others, i hope to see u soon shmucks
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Wulfgard
eXceed Inc.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.04 18:09:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Latia
Give them hell RA! You know you're doing well when they have to out blob you 10/1.
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Myal Terego
PAX Interstellar Services
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.04 18:15:00 -
[110]
yup i can see -10 standing to axiom empire in the near future.
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Mc Leech
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Posted - 2006.08.04 18:22:00 -
[111]
One thing that coalition seems to forget is that most of RA thats left is not here for mining or NPC farming or even complexes. Most of whats left of RA are hardcore pvp players who play only for pvp. We need no stations, we need no control at all, all we want is to kill as many coalition members as possible. You are actually making the game more enjoyable for us, and if you think thats gonna make us quit any time soon than think again. The more people you bring the more targets for us to shoot at.
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Azuriel Talloth
M. Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 18:46:00 -
[112]
Hardcore PvPers enjoy POS wars?
CCP Please rename "Warp Disrupt Probes" to "Interdiction Spheres", thanks! |
turnschuh
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Posted - 2006.08.04 18:48:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Myal Terego
yup i can see -10 standing to axiom empire in the near future.
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Kohan Kisodairos
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Posted - 2006.08.04 18:51:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Latia
Give them hell RA! You know you're doing well when they have to out blob you 10/1.
So apparently this idiot in AXIOM is against ASCN? I think ASCN should demand the removal of this traitor.
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Braaage
eXceed Inc.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.04 19:01:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Kohan Kisodairos
Originally by: Latia
Give them hell RA! You know you're doing well when they have to out blob you 10/1.
So apparently this idiot in AXIOM is against ASCN? I think ASCN should demand the removal of this traitor.
I think it's more likely Latia doesn't have a clue what's going on.....
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Picture based tutorial site for EVE-Online |
Radeberger
Caldari
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.04 19:04:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Radeberger on 04/08/2006 19:05:52
Originally by: Braaage
Originally by: Kohan Kisodairos
Originally by: Latia
Give them hell RA! You know you're doing well when they have to out blob you 10/1.
So apparently this idiot in AXIOM is against ASCN? I think ASCN should demand the removal of this traitor.
I think it's more likely Latia doesn't have a clue what's going on.....
It's just a stupid comment, don't worry about it
PS: i'll pod him myself if he still feels this way after we talk to him
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LTD THOR
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.04 19:11:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Latia
Give them hell RA! You know you're doing well when they have to out blob you 10/1.
*votes for a "keelhaul"!
My 1st video : =RED WARS-The Beginning= ;) |
Stamin Primer
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Posted - 2006.08.04 19:21:00 -
[118]
Edited by: Stamin Primer on 04/08/2006 19:22:26
Originally by: Kohan Kisodairos
Originally by: Latia
Give them hell RA! You know you're doing well when they have to out blob you 10/1.
So apparently this idiot in AXIOM is against ASCN? I think ASCN should demand the removal of this traitor.
I don't that Latia knew that AXIOM and ASCN have a -10.0 standing with RA. |
Xiaodown
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Posted - 2006.08.04 20:32:00 -
[119]
Well... OK.
Let me clear a few things up, being the origional poster.
I don't expect to "beat" RA. To be honest, I don't think it'll happen. RA are very good at living out of POSs, and it hasn't been too long since they owned the entire Wicked Creek / Insmother / Cache / etc area. They also have deep pockets, and I really do applaud their veterans who must have billions of skill points for those T2 fitted Tempests. I've been owned by RA before, and I think there were 6 or 7 separate ships on my kill mail sporting T2 1400mm howies. Yowza. Fun, though.
I guess we'll be trying to get them out of conquerable stations, but to me, it's more about getting them back home (to insmother? I guess is their home) in order to keep them out of the complexes. Disclaimer: My opinion, not that of my corp or alliance, but if RA stayed out of Scalding Pass and Wicked Creek, I personally would be fine with ignoring them. I honestly think a lot of people feel this way. People just don't like the equivilant of Gil/Gold/GP/isk/money farmers intruding on their space, and that's what RA's plex running has become. Even Gank squads are fun - roaming around (or being roamed around on?) looking for people where they shouldn't be? That's fun. Running the 10/10 complex 3 times a day, as if it were some Hyperspeed Molten Core? That's as lame (more in fact) than WoW.
The numbers I quoted were not to say OMGLOLZERCOPTERS LOOK AT OUR NUMBERS. It was more me, musing on the number of people in the game that RA has managed to **** off. Being (relatively) new to the game, I have only heard bits and pieces of the history, and seen old copies of the alliance map. RA used to be huge, though.
Now, ya'll all hatin' on my scorpion. I think I can defend all the highs and mediums:
The highs (obviously) are cruises, plus a heavy nos. Why not 2 heavy nos? Cause I had one in my hanger.
The meds - the Sensor Booster II's were not to target at 250km (although they can) - they were to lock faster. The Jammers - one multispec and one specifically targeted at tempests - were for... jamming! The cap recharger was for ... recharging cap, in case I had to keep the jammers going longer than I had planned.
The target painter was because... I've always been told that Target painters upped signature radius for everyone in the gang, and in a gang of 40, it can't hurt to make it easier for your friends to hit something, right? Especially since I'm not the damage dealer? Then... The Invuln field? Ok, you got me there. I just feel naked flying with retardedly low resistances. That's all.
The low slots were a case of "Oh, hell, i'll just throw something on". I figured for a gate/station camp, it'd be a good idea to be able to move around a little better, hence the nano and the inertial stabalizer. Not sure they're working, cause while I am moving at like 180m/s, I'm still turning like a 57 caddy. The power diags? Um... I had them. Why not? Now, I could have put on some T2 damage mods, but... I didn't. I didn't have much in the way of low-slot stuff in the hanger, and I was trying to get to C-J to bring a bubble out. It was a rush job. I could have put on some armor plating, except... I don't think I have the skills. My character's about 5 months old - I don't have every skill in the world.
I'm still learning, man. Whadya want? I am out trying, at least!
Good luck Coalition / ASCN / (grudgingly) RA. Let's have some fun in C-J6!
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Ediz Daxx
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 21:02:00 -
[120]
I like muffins.. do you like muffins?
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Gene Starjumper
The xDEATHx Squadron
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Posted - 2006.08.04 21:30:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Xiaodown
The target painter was because... I've always been told that Target painters upped signature radius for everyone in the gang, and in a gang of 40, it can't hurt to make it easier for your friends to hit something, right?
Target painters don't work at over 100 km so it's kind of useless to fit it on a battleship that is designed to give Jamming support to the fleet.
As far as RA not giving up, it has nothing to do with stuborness. Most of the guys that are left in RA have lived in these regions since day 1 and they are not about to drop everything and just leave.
♥ Gene
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HatePeace LoveWar
Amarr
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.04 21:32:00 -
[122]
I have to say. Blobs ftl, and please learn to fit a scorpian.. oh waith your on my side! DOH!
http://members.lycos.co.uk/snailbrain/hateme.jpg
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Vashi Dokumentu
The xDEATHx Squadron
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Posted - 2006.08.04 22:17:00 -
[123]
Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar
I have to say. Blobs ftl, and please learn to fit a scorpian.. oh waith your on my side! DOH!
u made my day, nice to see some out there with sense of humor
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nync
UA Industry
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.04 23:32:00 -
[124]
Thks for coming ASCN, some decent loot and loads of fun for me, just made my day
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Devoras2
Amarr
Confederation of Red Moon
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 00:03:00 -
[125]
All I have to say is lag FTL!
And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
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Crucifier
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.08.05 00:05:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Delthus
uhh ASCN is not invovled with anything
Else says the 6 capital ships RA just killed from ascn
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APEXrevived
Minmatar
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.05 00:08:00 -
[127]
i see a gap in your bubbles :)
cool pic.
I thought since this game is called Eve that I'd play a female character. Is that a good enough excuse for a guy? |
Devoras2
Amarr
Confederation of Red Moon
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 00:14:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Delthus
uhh ASCN is not invovled with anything
Else says the 6 capital ships RA just killed from ascn
RA didnt kill anything. Lag did. Dont get*****y.
Dev
And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
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Latia
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.05 00:15:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Radeberger
Edited by: Radeberger on 04/08/2006 19:05:52
Originally by: Braaage
Originally by: Kohan Kisodairos
Originally by: Latia
Give them hell RA! You know you're doing well when they have to out blob you 10/1.
So apparently this idiot in AXIOM is against ASCN? I think ASCN should demand the removal of this traitor.
I think it's more likely Latia doesn't have a clue what's going on.....
It's just a stupid comment, don't worry about it
PS: i'll pod him myself if he still feels this way after we talk to him
I'm not against ASCN. I was just telling RA to kick butt. They are consistantly outnumbered and deserve the respect. An attempt to pod me over my freedom of speach would not be good for your health Rade. Good luck to all in the fights.
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Din Grant
Friends Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.05 00:15:00 -
[130]
(that's a mistake to post here anything. but let it be)
Well, i'm sure coalition is very, very strong. But as well i'm sure that RED has been showing you their fighting spirit, imagination, organization - all enough to hold some key places as "official" proof of their existence and to fight you back - mostly successful. How many alliances was it at the start? Now, "The Coalition" is growing larger and i can understand newcomers - who wants to have us subborn and rebelous Russians as their neibour? At least, i believe its as we are looking from the side. And who doesn't want to be with almost "victorious" coalition? Yeah, the coalition is huge now - outnumbering RED... ah, don't remember exactly - but there are lots of new faces as ASCN joined you. And what have you achieved with all that year-long war? Some kind of glorious victory? Can't see anything like this. Great battles happen in the space - for sure, and videos prove it, but greatest happen to take place on the forums - these forums, which only about 5-10% of Russians reading and posting. Yeah... You are great, really
By the way - unfortunately i can't get info from the field, but checking RED killboard is quite amusing - looks like... mmm, 4 carriers lost by this moment? And look - it's 3 ASCN among them! I'm sure you guys helped a lot.
And yes - i'm truly RA fanboy. They may rise, they might fall - but I personally can't believe second variant. I highly respect everyting they do.
And the last. We can say great amounts of words - but i'm absolutely sure that all expirienced pilots of both sides had great fun fighting each other - it's the only aim of the Game. I hope it's true for everyone.
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Crucifier
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.08.05 00:19:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Delthus
uhh ASCN is not invovled with anything
Else says the 6 capital ships RA just killed from ascn
RA didnt kill anything. Lag did. Dont get*****y.
Dev
oh really? Just like our "lag exploits" killed your dreads in e3-.
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Devoras2
Amarr
Confederation of Red Moon
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 00:24:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Delthus
uhh ASCN is not invovled with anything
Else says the 6 capital ships RA just killed from ascn
RA didnt kill anything. Lag did. Dont get*****y.
Dev
oh really? Just like our "lag exploits" killed your dreads in e3-.
What happend in C-J was all due to lag which RA took advanatge off. Damn game mechanics i say, and lack of enforcing the node in that system. What happend in E3 was again exploit of game mechanics. Loggoffski, loggonski.. etc . Need I say more?
Dev
And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
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Crucifier
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.08.05 00:26:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Delthus
uhh ASCN is not invovled with anything
Else says the 6 capital ships RA just killed from ascn
RA didnt kill anything. Lag did. Dont get*****y.
Dev
oh really? Just like our "lag exploits" killed your dreads in e3-.
What happend in C-J was all due to lag which RA took advanatge off. Damn game mechanics i say, and lack of enforcing the node in that system. What happend in E3 was again exploit of game mechanics. Loggoffski, loggonski.. etc . Need I say more?
Dev
If we were exploiting as you say, why wasn't any1 banned?
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Devoras2
Amarr
Confederation of Red Moon
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 00:31:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Delthus
uhh ASCN is not invovled with anything
Else says the 6 capital ships RA just killed from ascn
RA didnt kill anything. Lag did. Dont get*****y.
Dev
oh really? Just like our "lag exploits" killed your dreads in e3-.
What happend in C-J was all due to lag which RA took advanatge off. Damn game mechanics i say, and lack of enforcing the node in that system. What happend in E3 was again exploit of game mechanics. Loggoffski, loggonski.. etc . Need I say more?
Dev
If we were exploiting as you say, why wasn't any1 banned?
Because loggon-traps and lag isnt an exploit as pr. CCP statement. Its all game mechanics which could be viewed as an "exploit", but officaly isnt. You cant hinder someone from logging on, hence you cant stop it. As for lag its all down to the GM`s to re-inforce the damn nod.
Dev
And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
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Crucifier
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.08.05 00:34:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Delthus
uhh ASCN is not invovled with anything
Else says the 6 capital ships RA just killed from ascn
RA didnt kill anything. Lag did. Dont get*****y.
Dev
oh really? Just like our "lag exploits" killed your dreads in e3-.
What happend in C-J was all due to lag which RA took advanatge off. Damn game mechanics i say, and lack of enforcing the node in that system. What happend in E3 was again exploit of game mechanics. Loggoffski, loggonski.. etc . Need I say more?
Dev
If we were exploiting as you say, why wasn't any1 banned?
Because loggon-traps and lag isnt an exploit as pr. CCP statement. Its all game mechanics which could be viewed as an "exploit", but officaly isnt. You cant hinder someone from logging on, hence you cant stop it. As for lag its all down to the GM`s to re-inforce the damn nod.
Dev
There you have it, if ccp doesn't say its exploits it aint exploits.
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Devoras2
Amarr
Confederation of Red Moon
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 00:36:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Delthus
uhh ASCN is not invovled with anything
Else says the 6 capital ships RA just killed from ascn
RA didnt kill anything. Lag did. Dont get*****y.
Dev
oh really? Just like our "lag exploits" killed your dreads in e3-.
What happend in C-J was all due to lag which RA took advanatge off. Damn game mechanics i say, and lack of enforcing the node in that system. What happend in E3 was again exploit of game mechanics. Loggoffski, loggonski.. etc . Need I say more?
Dev
If we were exploiting as you say, why wasn't any1 banned?
Because loggon-traps and lag isnt an exploit as pr. CCP statement. Its all game mechanics which could be viewed as an "exploit", but officaly isnt. You cant hinder someone from logging on, hence you cant stop it. As for lag its all down to the GM`s to re-inforce the damn nod.
Dev
There you have it, if ccp doesn't say its exploits it aint exploits.
Thats merely cause CCP cant do anything about it, ot dont want to! If they could, they would call it exploit.
Dev
And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
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Radeberger
Caldari
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.05 00:41:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Latia
Originally by: Radeberger
Edited by: Radeberger on 04/08/2006 19:05:52
Originally by: Braaage
Originally by: Kohan Kisodairos
Originally by: Latia
Give them hell RA! You know you're doing well when they have to out blob you 10/1.
So apparently this idiot in AXIOM is against ASCN? I think ASCN should demand the removal of this traitor.
I think it's more likely Latia doesn't have a clue what's going on.....
It's just a stupid comment, don't worry about it
PS: i'll pod him myself if he still feels this way after we talk to him
I'm not against ASCN. I was just telling RA to kick butt. They are consistantly outnumbered and deserve the respect. An attempt to pod me over my freedom of speach would not be good for your health Rade. Good luck to all in the fights.
This is escalating out of control, all i wanted to say is that latia's view is not the common view of people in axiom empire.
nuff said for now
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Gene Starjumper
The xDEATHx Squadron
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Posted - 2006.08.05 00:48:00 -
[138]
Dev
Thats merely cause CCP cant do anything about it, ot dont want to! If they could, they would call it exploit.
Dev
With all due respect RA did not create the lag. They are fighting in as much lag as you guys are with a lot less numbers in c-j6 than the Coalition. They killed 4 capital ships despite all this so please stop with the lag excuse.
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Din Grant
Friends Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.05 00:56:00 -
[139]
Can i ask two... yeah, two stupid questions?
First - can you imagine any way for an EVE player, corp or alliance to "create" lag specially for assigned time and/or place?
Second - Do you honestly think a lag is something that affects only one side?
I can't get your logic... Just can't get it.
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Devoras2
Amarr
Confederation of Red Moon
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 00:58:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Gene Starjumper
Dev
Thats merely cause CCP cant do anything about it, ot dont want to! If they could, they would call it exploit.
Dev
With all due respect RA did not create the lag. They are fighting in as much lag as you guys are with a lot less numbers in c-j6 than the Coalition. They killed 4 capital ships despite all this so please stop with the lag excuse.
I never stated that RA created the lag. Im just annoyed by the fact that the GM`s didnt enforce the nods although a GM was in the system!
And the only reason they managed to kill 4 cap ships was due to lag. So dont bring me that utter nonsense that lag didnt have anything to do with it!
Dev
And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
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Mutant
UA Industry
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 01:16:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Gene Starjumper
Dev
Thats merely cause CCP cant do anything about it, ot dont want to! If they could, they would call it exploit.
Dev
With all due respect RA did not create the lag. They are fighting in as much lag as you guys are with a lot less numbers in c-j6 than the Coalition. They killed 4 capital ships despite all this so please stop with the lag excuse.
I never stated that RA created the lag. Im just annoyed by the fact that the GM`s didnt enforce the nods although a GM was in the system!
And the only reason they managed to kill 4 cap ships was due to lag. So dont bring me that utter nonsense that lag didnt have anything to do with it!
Dev
5 cap ships...
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Light Darkness
Seraphin Technologies
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.05 01:20:00 -
[142]
Lol.....GMs (2 of them) comes int C-J6 to DELETE CAN¦s !!!!
But to check the lag they arnt coming....
...what i missed in eve....
Regards
/LD
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balrog
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.08.05 01:34:00 -
[143]
LOL
Can you guys plz stop crying about lagg. We al have problems with lagg.
Lagg, exploit, login traps, bla bla bla.
Adapt or fit mininglasers im sure the asteroids belts are lagg free and the roids dont logg off on you
RA FTW !!!
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Gene Starjumper
The xDEATHx Squadron
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Posted - 2006.08.05 01:34:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Mutant
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Gene Starjumper
Dev
Thats merely cause CCP cant do anything about it, ot dont want to! If they could, they would call it exploit.
Dev
With all due respect RA did not create the lag. They are fighting in as much lag as you guys are with a lot less numbers in c-j6 than the Coalition. They killed 4 capital ships despite all this so please stop with the lag excuse.
I never stated that RA created the lag. Im just annoyed by the fact that the GM`s didnt enforce the nods although a GM was in the system!
And the only reason they managed to kill 4 cap ships was due to lag. So dont bring me that utter nonsense that lag didnt have anything to do with it!
Dev
5 cap ships...
It was 4 when i looked. Grats on 5th
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Pastora
Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 01:53:00 -
[145]
1. If not for the lag, we would kill more capital ships of yours today.
2. And about the GMs not fixing lag. Read the forums. Devs said, at the moment it is next to impossible for them to "increase" priority of the node. Well, it is possible, but it will cause them way too much other problems with other parts of the claster.
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Devoras2
Amarr
Confederation of Red Moon
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 02:17:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Pastora
1. If not for the lag, we would kill more capital ships of yours today.
2. And about the GMs not fixing lag. Read the forums. Devs said, at the moment it is next to impossible for them to "increase" priority of the node. Well, it is possible, but it will cause them way too much other problems with other parts of the claster.
LOL!
1. If lag wasnt the issue, 90% of us would be able to act and shoot back at your little gang. You would be no more then in eggs at the end of the battle.
2. PLZ do link me the thread. I really want to see that confirmed by the GM`s.
Dev
And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
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Devoras2
Amarr
Confederation of Red Moon
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 02:28:00 -
[147]
Originally by: balrog
LOL
Can you guys plz stop crying about lagg. We al have problems with lagg.
Lagg, exploit, login traps, bla bla bla.
Adapt or fit mininglasers im sure the asteroids belts are lagg free and the roids dont logg off on you
RA FTW !!!
Cause it seems that log-in traps and logg off during high pressure its what you guys are only good at. I consider this the weapon of the weak. And guess what distinct group shares this commen trait.
Dev
And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
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Al Haquis
Minmatar
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.05 02:44:00 -
[148]
Respect to RA.
With love from Al Haquis.
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MACTEP
Solar Dragons
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 02:54:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Delthus
uhh ASCN is not invovled with anything
Else says the 6 capital ships RA just killed from ascn
RA didnt kill anything. Lag did. Dont get*****y.
Dev
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Yes its lagged like HELL.....when i warped on pos(which coalition dreads + ASND were striking) i was looking on empy overview during 20 sec.......after it, half of our gang could not lock anybody and did not saw half of targets....after i warped out(i warped out on half of armor and came on pos with 15% structure) i was waiting about 5 minuts before saw our safe pos and could reload my guns....i was need to shut down my alt...and reset computer..........it did not help.....so say "THANKs CCP FOR LAGS"......that you did not die there all .......
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iqplayer
Caldari
Dragon's Rage
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 03:10:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Devoras2
2. PLZ do link me the thread. I really want to see that confirmed by the GM`s.
Dev
It was in the thread regarding the issues in XZH. To summarize:
A) Load balancing (node reconfiguration) can only really happen at DT.
B) While it is *possible* for systems to be manually elevated (and has been done in certain tests in the past) it also causes many problems. CCP has decided not to do this anymore - though the Dragon code branch will contain better automatic load balancing.
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Crucifier
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.08.05 04:31:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Pastora
1. If not for the lag, we would kill more capital ships of yours today.
2. And about the GMs not fixing lag. Read the forums. Devs said, at the moment it is next to impossible for them to "increase" priority of the node. Well, it is possible, but it will cause them way too much other problems with other parts of the claster.
LOL!
1. If lag wasnt the issue, 90% of us would be able to act and shoot back at your little gang. You would be no more then in eggs at the end of the battle.
2. PLZ do link me the thread. I really want to see that confirmed by the GM`s.
Dev
So only 10% of you were capable of doing something? That must mean 10% of them was capable of doing something, so they killed 5 capital ships with 6 people. Or are you implieing something else?
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Posted - 2006.08.05 05:44:00 -
[152]
the bubble camp is nice buth the scorp fit is fdw bdw for a big coalition like theat is OMFG you need lots of time to remove a alliance like RED . OOO Le't see LV,V,KOS,ASCN,ERA,Chimera Pact and lots more vs RED dont know buth the power of all theat you need max 2 weeks.
GL RED kill them all your one from the best alliances
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Legenda
Caldari
Nun Amun
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.05 06:01:00 -
[153]
Originally by: hhhhhhhhhhhhhgg
the bubble camp is nice buth the scorp fit is fdw bdw for a big coalition like theat is OMFG you need lots of time to remove a alliance like RED . OOO Le't see LV,V,KOS,ASCN,ERA,Chimera Pact and lots more vs RED dont know buth the power of all theat you need max 2 weeks.
GL RED kill them all your one from the best alliances
Go Away ALT....
As for the war...,i personally wish it never ends ...
C¦mon...,what would we shoot after the war ... ? Eachother ?
[ 2005.12.07 17:45:23 ] Ikvar > Are you really that stupid?
[ 2005.12.07 17:45:30 ] Spr1nger > YES
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Gouglash
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 07:42:00 -
[154]
Red Alliance is badass. You guys rock.
The Coalition can complain all they want about such exploits as logging on, anchoring POS, and using Observator probes, but when it comes down to it, the reason you guys win is determination.
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Belian
Caldari
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.05 08:03:00 -
[155]
i think all ppl know why this war started so just drop it and fight for your home
[13:13:44] <kingdave> im happy being a homo.
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Fargas
Minmatar
RUS Academy
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 08:06:00 -
[156]
during last 24hrs coalition managed to put 1 pos into reinforsed, while loosing 5 carriers and 50+ battleships and tonns of support.
check RA killboard for kills and LV killboard for RA losses
klik, ....
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Fremen Warrior
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Posted - 2006.08.05 08:30:00 -
[157]
so does this mean the war against RA is almost over?
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Vensa Heckler
The Syndicate Inc
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 08:42:00 -
[158]
Originally by: MACTEP
Edited by: MACTEP on 05/08/2006 03:00:17
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Yes it lagged like HELL.....when i warped on pos(which coalition dreads + ASND were striking) i was looking on empy overview during 20 sec.......after it, half of our gang could not lock anybody and did not saw half of targets....after i warped out(i warped out on half of armor and came on pos with 15% structure) i was waiting about 5 minuts before saw our safe pos and could reload my guns....i was need to shut down my alt...and reset computer..........it did not help.....
AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT LAGS????? try to say it to smb who play another game
so say "THANKs CCP FOR LAGS"......that you did not die there all .......
one way to sort that lag out that you seemed to be experience would be to remove a lot of those empty ships inside the pos shield, warping to a friendly POS loaded fine for me but the 60s loading time on your pos was crippling. i'm not saying you deliberately put those ships there to cause lag, but they are almost definitely what did it imo
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Beyond Horizon
Solar Dragons
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 08:48:00 -
[159]
Edited by: Beyond Horizon on 05/08/2006 08:53:12
Devoras2, you my friend speak too much, especially in bad light about RA. You don't want to see us pised off, believe me, so it is in your interest to keep it down a bit or I will have Stybbe living next door to you
EDIT: spelling
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Fargas
Minmatar
RUS Academy
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 08:48:00 -
[160]
Edited by: Fargas on 05/08/2006 08:50:47
dude, there are 20+ poses, wtf you attacked the one with lots of empty ships?
blame yourself for it
p.s. coalition ability to find endless lame excuses amuses me
klik, ....
davno pora |
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Vensa Heckler
The Syndicate Inc
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 08:52:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Fargas
dude, there are 20+ poses, wtf you attacked the one with lots of empty ships?
blame yourself for it
i wasn't complaining about lag, just answering one of your guys who seemed to be.
of course if you had a problem with the lag, you could have chosen not to defend it :P
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Mj Pronin
Caldari
R.u.S.H.
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 09:03:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Xiaodown
Whelp...
The coalition has started a new offensive against RA. We're currently camping C-J6MT. See:
This pic!
Behold 2 hours later bubble gum chewed :)
Hey dont bring 10k people to c-j6. It is hell of a lag already. Arent your have enough lag created with your conts that GMs had to remove from system?
Bad, Bad Coalition! Lag creators, cont trap exploiters...and all this upon our poor heads.
More targets-more fun i'd say. So let's have MOOOOORE FUN
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
LoneStar Industries
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.05 09:05:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Fargas
p.s. coalition ability to find endless lame excuses amuses me
And RA popping puny ships at gate camps and call two GMs to clear up cans because coalition forces "spam" cans at gate camps? Grow some courage and clear up the cans yourself.
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Fargas
Minmatar
RUS Academy
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 09:08:00 -
[164]
poor jenny, dont cry and i'll give a cookie
klik, ....
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
LoneStar Industries
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.05 09:10:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Fargas
poor jenny, dont cry and i'll give a cookie
Me cry? LOL. Girls dont cry. Men cry.
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Minevra
Solar Dragons
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 09:22:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Fargas
p.s. coalition ability to find endless lame excuses amuses me
And RA popping puny ships at gate camps and call two GMs to clear up cans because coalition forces "spam" cans at gate camps? Grow some courage and clear up the cans yourself.
Yep, had to clear all your cans near the pos. Try not to do such a mess next time.On the other hand....we have profetional janitors in our ship's cargo.
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Nova Strikes
STK Scientific
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 09:32:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Fargas
Edited by: Fargas on 05/08/2006 08:50:47
dude, there are 20+ poses, wtf you attacked the one with lots of empty ships?
blame yourself for it
p.s. coalition ability to find endless lame excuses amuses me
POS dont have lag i see you didnt know?, atm i am undesided if you deserve my respect or not. You dont seem to talk with any degree of fairness but that doesnt mean that you dont deserve my respect......yet.
We shall wait and see, these are the forums after all and people tend to smack none stop until there nose bleeds.
I think i should be back in time for this one!
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Mj Pronin
Caldari
R.u.S.H.
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 09:51:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: Gene Starjumper
Dev
Thats merely cause CCP cant do anything about it, ot dont want to! If they could, they would call it exploit.
Dev
With all due respect RA did not create the lag. They are fighting in as much lag as you guys are with a lot less numbers in c-j6 than the Coalition. They killed 4 capital ships despite all this so please stop with the lag excuse.
I never stated that RA created the lag. Im just annoyed by the fact that the GM`s didnt enforce the nods although a GM was in the system!
And the only reason they managed to kill 4 cap ships was due to lag. So dont bring me that utter nonsense that lag didnt have anything to do with it!
Dev
OMG! I cannot state how hard i laugh now. My coworkers start to look at me with curious.
Now you blame GMs for lag? ROFL. GMs came to system to clear YOUR conts that YOU palnted to increase the lag!!!
And we had 30 sec to 1 min lag when we jumped on your forces. My screen freezed, the next thing i saw after it unfreezed was huge red overview. Half of the called targets was not even in vicinity as they were killed\warped out. There were about 10 sec delay in jammers activation.
So calling that RA didnt kill anything-lag did is so noobish excuse. We all had lag. If you cannot adapt to it (and most of russian pilots just have to adapt to it as we had crappy internet services than most of other europian/american users) maybe you better go back to empire and go on with your carebear activities?
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CEO Pyrex
DarkStar 1
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 09:58:00 -
[169]
Great night, lag was a pain but in all an amusing bit of fun for this game we play
Stop with the hate on the forums please, ascn loosing capital ships is like you loosing a battleship and dont forget that - we threw ours into the fray and had a real blast doing it, not hide them at a pos.
You wont hold onto your home if you dont take risks and im fellin risky :)
ASCN are here to have fun, not get wrapped up in some epeen war, its a game after all and means absolutly nothing in real life so go play and try to have fun.
Respect to RA, keep it civil :)
CEO Pyrex
"wants the T1 forums back which had a bit of lub, not these bob v goons T2 forums"
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Fargas
Minmatar
RUS Academy
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 10:04:00 -
[170]
yeah. great fun. to be slaughtered by POS in a lag fest
yee haaa
klik, ....
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Mj Pronin
Caldari
R.u.S.H.
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 10:05:00 -
[171]
Originally by: CEO Pyrex
Great night, lag was a pain but in all an amusing bit of fun for this game we play
Well said m8. We all need learn to respect the ones we play with. But some people just dont know how to do this.
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CEO Pyrex
DarkStar 1
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 10:07:00 -
[172]
And about the lag?
Every war has lag, why are we still going on about it? fact is eve as a game is flawed in combat above a certain number. was amusing to hear on ts "omgrawr the RA lag machines are on" fact is the servers can barely handle even the simplest contests now.
my corp lost 2 carriers to the fact they were sat still loading while being pummelled but i am not going to cry and moan about it cos whrere would that get anyone. (if anything i laughed cos i survived lol)
fact is people use these forums to vent frustration at one another cos they cant go do it in game due to lag. Carriers if able to support one another can soak up a HUGE amount of damage but lag stops them even doing anything cept be big targets that make a nice pop
Lets cut the lag calls becuase it does effect us all and perhaps just say "ccp you suck sort it out cos this game SUCKS with lag"
Good hunting to all and lets have some fun gameplay
CEO Pyrex
"yes its big isnt it...."
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Beyond Horizon
Solar Dragons
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 10:07:00 -
[173]
I was told ASCN guys are here cause they are fed up with !!!RA!!! doing ASCN's complexes?!
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CEO Pyrex
DarkStar 1
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 10:14:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Mj Pronin
Originally by: CEO Pyrex
Great night, lag was a pain but in all an amusing bit of fun for this game we play
Well said m8. We all need learn to respect the ones we play with. But some people just dont know how to do this.
Thanks mate, i dont think there are many like us left in game. most of eve seems be some sort of 'football supporter on speed' nowadays. not like 3 years ago :)
I will prolly be flamed for my views but im am enjoying fighting RA and wish both teams a good fight and hope for some memorable battles. (where would we be without enemies?)
Please ASCN guys stop posting hostility, if gets you nowhere and the community is on its knees already dont add to the percieved image of eve being a game of whiners.
CEO Pyrex
"kill our titans, then you can boast...."
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Jarl Isensonn
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Posted - 2006.08.05 10:28:00 -
[175]
Well, I have learned that ships not able to run reppers 24/7
I do have to say that the 20 sec from my shields started to go down, untill my repper started was AWFULL. So whas the next 20 sec when I saw the rest of my armor and structure die.. and then.. the 30-40 sec before I was safe in my pod.
New cookies are bakeing, and I will be back.
After all, looseing a carrier now set me back less than looseing a tempest in the early days.
I will be back in 14 days with a new toy.
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putukas
Enterprise Estonia
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.05 10:30:00 -
[176]
yeah the lag was huge i was in dread shooting pos until i got disconnected during the fight. I couldnt quickly log back in and when i finaly logged in i had 15% shield left on my phoenix :p
I dont realy know what our support fleet was doing but by the look they got raped by RA. Must admit that offense went kinda bad but its always harder to attack then defend. We got the job done what we came to do and i think thats primary.
Every war has casualties its normal.
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Nova Strikes
STK Scientific
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 10:36:00 -
[177]
Originally by: CEO Pyrex
And about the lag?
Every war has lag, why are we still going on about it? fact is eve as a game is flawed in combat above a certain number. was amusing to hear on ts "omgrawr the RA lag machines are on" fact is the servers can barely handle even the simplest contests now.
my corp lost 2 carriers to the fact they were sat still loading while being pummelled but i am not going to cry and moan about it cos whrere would that get anyone. (if anything i laughed cos i survived lol)
fact is people use these forums to vent frustration at one another cos they cant go do it in game due to lag. Carriers if able to support one another can soak up a HUGE amount of damage but lag stops them even doing anything cept be big targets that make a nice pop
Lets cut the lag calls becuase it does effect us all and perhaps just say "ccp you suck sort it out cos this game SUCKS with lag"
Good hunting to all and lets have some fun gameplay
CEO Pyrex
"yes its big isnt it...."
Indeed respect is everything and rather hard to give at time.
Incase i dont make it..gain, enjoy yourself guys.
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Pehova Mindtriq
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.08.05 10:39:00 -
[178]
Originally by: CEO Pyrex
ASCN are here to have fun...
You shoot POS'es for fun?
Anyways I like RA more and more every day. I dont think any alliance out there could survive the odds they are facfng. Too bad the RA's enemies ran and hid when CELES came to GW, really wanted to help the underdog in this conflict.
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putukas
Enterprise Estonia
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.05 10:45:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq
You shoot POS'es for fun?
Anyways I like RA more and more every day. I dont think any alliance out there could survive the odds they are facfng. Too bad the RA's enemies ran and hid when CELES came to GW, really wanted to help the underdog in this conflict.
thats just lame what you just said. Come back to GW all mighty CELES!!!112
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
LoneStar Industries
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.05 10:57:00 -
[180]
Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/08/2006 11:00:23
Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq
Originally by: CEO Pyrex
ASCN are here to have fun...
You shoot POS'es for fun?
Anyways I like RA more and more every day. I dont think any alliance out there could survive the odds they are facfng. Too bad the RA's enemies ran and hid when CELES came to GW, really wanted to help the underdog in this conflict.
Dont talk too much. If you are RA fanbois, why not join RA and get all the free war decs? Talk is cheap, action is king. Insmother is the new Shire. 
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Pehova Mindtriq
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.08.05 11:03:00 -
[181]
Originally by: putukas
Edited by: putukas on 05/08/2006 10:50:37
Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq
You shoot POS'es for fun?
Anyways I like RA more and more every day. I dont think any alliance out there could survive the odds they are facfng. Too bad the RA's enemies ran and hid when CELES came to GW, really wanted to help the underdog in this conflict.
thats just lame what you just said. Come back to GW all mighty CELES!!!112
then maybe we get something to shoot at other then 250km range + wcs¦s
Actually we got a similar invite from your alliance 3-4 months ago and accepted it. We came, had like 2 fights and after that e02 and m-m got empty of enemies. Suggesting for CELES to go to GW again will prolly get me kicked out of the corp for the worst idea ever
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2006.08.05 11:08:00 -
[182]
I'm sure they had real reasons to leave Pehova.
But yeah Jenny, we were told by your own guys it'd be fun and it wasn't.
Now its the same in Fountain. Sigh....
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Evil Thug
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.08.05 11:19:00 -
[183]
Actually putukas is well known "bad-mouth". He also invite us to GW. We came, get 11 : 1 killratio, ganked LD in his dred, and he shut up on forums. I guess he`ll never learn.
Rage and Terror - making people quit EVE. |
welsh wizard
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Posted - 2006.08.05 11:21:00 -
[184]
We've always had great respect for LD which is part of the reason we came down.
A great pvp'er and still the best killer of celes after all this time.
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putukas
Enterprise Estonia
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.05 11:23:00 -
[185]
thanks for the compliment Evil Thug
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Devoras2
Amarr
Confederation of Red Moon
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 11:41:00 -
[186]
Originally by: CEO Pyrex
Originally by: Mj Pronin
Originally by: CEO Pyrex
Great night, lag was a pain but in all an amusing bit of fun for this game we play
Well said m8. We all need learn to respect the ones we play with. But some people just dont know how to do this.
Please ASCN guys stop posting hostility, if gets you nowhere and the community is on its knees already dont add to the percieved image of eve being a game of whiners.
CEO Pyrex
"kill our titans, then you can boast...."
I really wanted to comment back, but fine! Fine!
Dev
And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
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Beyond Horizon
Solar Dragons
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 12:01:00 -
[187]
Originally by: putukas
We got the job done what we came to do and i think thats primary.
Every war has casualties its normal.
So your plan was to loose 4 capital ships just to get a POS into reinforced mode? Okay, gratz then
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Khayman33
Caldari
Section XIII
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.08.05 12:36:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Devoras2
Originally by: balrog
LOL
Can you guys plz stop crying about lagg. We al have problems with lagg.
Lagg, exploit, login traps, bla bla bla.
Adapt or fit mininglasers im sure the asteroids belts are lagg free and the roids dont logg off on you
RA FTW !!!
Cause it seems that log-in traps and logg off during high pressure its what you guys are only good at. I consider this the weapon of the weak. And guess what distinct group shares this commen trait.
Dev
Weapon of the weak is the blob ... sry :)
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VonKaplanek III
Confederation of Red Moon
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 13:52:00 -
[189]
Originally by: CEO Pyrex
Great night, lag was a pain but in all an amusing bit of fun for this game we play
Stop with the hate on the forums please, ascn loosing capital ships is like you loosing a battleship and dont forget that - we threw ours into the fray and had a real blast doing it, not hide them at a pos.
You wont hold onto your home if you dont take risks and im fellin risky :)
ASCN are here to have fun, not get wrapped up in some epeen war, its a game after all and means absolutly nothing in real life so go play and try to have fun.
Respect to RA, keep it civil :)
What he said...
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putukas
Enterprise Estonia
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.05 14:14:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
So your plan was to loose 4 capital ships just to get a POS into reinforced mode? Okay, gratz then
take it how you like but c-j is lost for you anyway
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Amthrianius
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.05 14:26:00 -
[191]
More people needed in the coalition makes baby jesus cry :(
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Minevra
Solar Dragons
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 14:41:00 -
[192]
Originally by: putukas
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
So your plan was to loose 4 capital ships just to get a POS into reinforced mode? Okay, gratz then
take it how you like but c-j is lost for you anyway
Ok lets go to math. To get all our poses to reinforsed mode you need about...80 cap ships and 1200 BS's. Good with us.
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PAX Interstellar Services
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.05 15:20:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Minevra
Originally by: putukas
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
So your plan was to loose 4 capital ships just to get a POS into reinforced mode? Okay, gratz then
take it how you like but c-j is lost for you anyway
Ok lets go to math. To get all our poses to reinforsed mode you need about...80 cap ships and 1200 BS's. Good with us.
I truly hope the devs read this and nerf pos really hard, it makes battling in 0.0 ridiculous atm. If they nerfed reinforced to a max of 8 hours, and doubled fitting costs of hardeners and guns, and cut shields / armor by 1/2 maybe it would be more feasible, but atm its quite ridiculous to try and fight a POS spamming entity for both sides. You guys should realize it after your failed attempts in f2a / n7-. Its ridiculous. Im not saying I want to see the 6 hour flip flops we saw in catch with fix / whoever else held its space that day. But currently they are ridiculous. 30 min to put up, and weeks to take down, and the force reqd, is worth about 100 times the cost of the spammed pos. Something needs to be done about it.
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Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.08.05 15:23:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Myal Terego
Originally by: Minevra
Originally by: putukas
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
So your plan was to loose 4 capital ships just to get a POS into reinforced mode? Okay, gratz then
take it how you like but c-j is lost for you anyway
Ok lets go to math. To get all our poses to reinforsed mode you need about...80 cap ships and 1200 BS's. Good with us.
I truly hope the devs read this and nerf pos really hard, it makes battling in 0.0 ridiculous atm. If they nerfed reinforced to a max of 8 hours, and doubled fitting costs of hardeners and guns, and cut shields / armor by 1/2 maybe it would be more feasible, but atm its quite ridiculous to try and fight a POS spamming entity for both sides. You guys should realize it after your failed attempts in f2a / n7-. Its ridiculous. Im not saying I want to see the 6 hour flip flops we saw in catch with fix / whoever else held its space that day. But currently they are ridiculous. 30 min to put up, and weeks to take down, and the force reqd, is worth about 100 times the cost of the spammed pos. Something needs to be done about it.
lol. How many dreads do you need?
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Fargas
Minmatar
RUS Academy
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 15:26:00 -
[195]
^^ whiner ALERT !!!!!11111
well, BoB captured EC outpost and killed 20+ poses during siege. Why you can't do it? Oh wait, you can't
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Myal Terego
PAX Interstellar Services
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.05 15:48:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Fargas
^^ whiner ALERT !!!!!11111
well, BoB captured EC outpost and killed 20+ poses during siege. Why you can't do it? Oh wait, you can't
Lil different when they barely fight back, and we all know you guys are the pos masters, noone will dispute that.
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Amarr
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.05 15:52:00 -
[197]
Ultimatley it boils down to the cold hard fact that this game cannot handle large amounts of people in one system and especially on the same grid. An issue that CCP has been trying to tackle for years and something i can't really imagine will ever get sorted.
What worries me the most is CCP is trying to encourage these sort of fights with capital ships, pos's and soverignty.
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HatePeace LoveWar
Amarr
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.05 15:54:00 -
[198]
Ultimatley it boils down to the cold hard fact that this game cannot handle large amounts of people in one system and especially on the same grid. An issue that CCP has been trying to tackle for years and something i can't really imagine will ever get sorted.
What worries me the most is CCP is trying to encourage these sort of fights with capital ships, pos's and soverignty.
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Kilpelainen
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.05 15:59:00 -
[199]
Not to underestimate the losses but I doubt RA would have much more luck if they would be fighting deathstars. But for months, if ever, have they been in a position where it would be worth the effort. This might be because they don't have the numbers nor the will to fight in our terms which as I see it cannot be avoided if they want us out of their home - east.
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Minevra
Solar Dragons
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 16:05:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Myal Terego
Originally by: Minevra
Originally by: putukas
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
So your plan was to loose 4 capital ships just to get a POS into reinforced mode? Okay, gratz then
take it how you like but c-j is lost for you anyway
Ok lets go to math. To get all our poses to reinforsed mode you need about...80 cap ships and 1200 BS's. Good with us.
I truly hope the devs read this and nerf pos really hard, it makes battling in 0.0 ridiculous atm. If they nerfed reinforced to a max of 8 hours, and doubled fitting costs of hardeners and guns, and cut shields / armor by 1/2 maybe it would be more feasible, but atm its quite ridiculous to try and fight a POS spamming entity for both sides. You guys should realize it after your failed attempts in f2a / n7-. Its ridiculous. Im not saying I want to see the 6 hour flip flops we saw in catch with fix / whoever else held its space that day. But currently they are ridiculous. 30 min to put up, and weeks to take down, and the force reqd, is worth about 100 times the cost of the spammed pos. Something needs to be done about it.
Or maybe they should make way for RA members NOT to login during your battles? When the game isn't going your way you try to change the rules? Be a man, not a little crying girl.
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Minevra
Solar Dragons
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 16:10:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Kilpelainen
Not to underestimate the losses but I doubt RA would have much more luck if they would be fighting deathstars. But for months, if ever, have they been in a position where it would be worth the effort. This might be because they don't have the numbers nor the will to fight in our terms which as I see it cannot be avoided if they want us out of their home - east.
Your last fight yesterday was near the station, your forces fleed and your carrier...logofski not to get captured. But omg RA used scan probe exploit and found him.
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Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.05 16:35:00 -
[202]
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Amarr
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.05 16:38:00 -
[203]
Edited by: HatePeace LoveWar on 05/08/2006 16:41:45
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Kilpelainen
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.05 16:54:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Minevra
Originally by: Kilpelainen
Not to underestimate the losses but I doubt RA would have much more luck if they would be fighting deathstars. But for months, if ever, have they been in a position where it would be worth the effort. This might be because they don't have the numbers nor the will to fight in our terms which as I see it cannot be avoided if they want us out of their home - east.
Your last fight yesterday was near the station, your forces fleed and your carrier...logofski not to get captured. But omg RA used scan probe exploit and found him.
I dunno about yesterday since I've been in empire for couple of days but in general my last post is true right?
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Fargas
Minmatar
RUS Academy
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 17:10:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Kilpelainen
Originally by: Minevra
Originally by: Kilpelainen
Not to underestimate the losses but I doubt RA would have much more luck if they would be fighting deathstars. But for months, if ever, have they been in a position where it would be worth the effort. This might be because they don't have the numbers nor the will to fight in our terms which as I see it cannot be avoided if they want us out of their home - east.
Your last fight yesterday was near the station, your forces fleed and your carrier...logofski not to get captured. But omg RA used scan probe exploit and found him.
I dunno about yesterday since I've been in empire for couple of days but in general my last post is true right?
too many ifs =)
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If ifs and ands were pots and pans,
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Art of War
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Posted - 2006.08.05 17:12:00 -
[206]
Originally by: RichThugster
when i read the first half of the post i assumed it was a coalition guy. After that i had to actually look it up in game, since i thought it was some sarcastic post by Red Alliance.
Simply put WOW. numbers already far outblobbing red alliance, they start celebrating that ASCN are getting involved. ASCN are probably getting involved due to the coalitions incompetance.
over 6 months ago the coalition started pushing on RA, sure the numbers may not have been as they are now, but RA im pretty confident have always been outnumbered. I used to despise RA for their Logoffski tactics whenever u entered their local, now however i have nothing but respect for them, and the superb job they have done in holding out so long.
Xiaodown, that scorp setup, you should be ashamed. The nos i can understand, to put on any ceptors that get close, but the target painter? the cap recharger? seriously WTF, the shied hardener, as the shinra guy said, if your primary it wont save you.
Unless this is all a cunning scheeme, so RA dont call you primary, since they think "he cant even rig a scorp for fleetbattles, next target"
Think again. We were killing them with 10 kill per loss ratio or better with 300 v pilots v 3000 RA pilots at the beggining of the war and getting a station per week. You need to learn better history
As to whats happening these days I have an idea but I d rather refrain from posting since I dont belong in this conflict any more.
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Art of War
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Posted - 2006.08.05 17:30:00 -
[207]
Also @ Welsh Wizzard the fact is that Celes did come to GW when all -v- but a few npcers were fighting in SP and N-rael area. Celes came to m-m and e02 area. They came so that -v- pvpers would amuse themselves with them and let RA breathe at a very difficult time for them.
We didnt bite this bait and told them that if they wanted fights other than ganks of npcers (who ultimately were too good at running so CELES got bored and left) they would have to move up to 1v- > N-rael corridor.
CELES chose not to do this. I cnat blame them. They were doind a job in e02 and they didnt have the numbers to come to 1v-. Fair enough. But posting e-peen augmentation posts like "we came to GW and didnt get fights" doesnt become you WW. Not to mention the few times the N-rael ganags were sent down to give you a fight you withrew rapidly (again wisely not that I blame you or anything.)
Moving on to ET. his gang of merry wethermen also limited themselves to GW and npcer hunting. 3 exceptions.
(1) Once they attacked an POS at 1v- while 80 -v- BS and support were off ganking others. LD logged in 1v- saw them and warped to their 20 BS gang alone (more or less) in a Dread. thats usual LD stuff and props to him. Then some more -v- were assembled and an almost equal numbers BS fight followed (equal numbers but our main BS gang was away so 5-6 of us had tech II long range ammo and all RAT BSs had long range ammo engagement at 190kms). RAT got more kills. Soon after they logged and during the night went back down to e02.
(2) They brought a small BS long range fleet to a system 4-5 jumps from 1v- where an RA station was being taken over. They were engaged by equal numbers BS and Cruiser gang mainly short range and won convincingly. The long range BS gang of equal numbers wa scrambled from 1v- and we sat on the gate waiting for them (previous gang retreated in the station system). RATs came twice at 160km lost 4 BSs killed 1 and then logged.
(3) They were engaging LDs Dread (another dread :) ) in e02 with their fleet. They were getting a lot of tech I frigs kills that were being used to paint for the Dread and losing almost nothing. Stalemate. 12 of us in BCs and cruisers jumped them coming down from 1v- and we killed a lot of their BSs. I more or less soloed one in a Brutix lawl.
Thats RAT. Very good at some things but by no means uber and avoiding equal fights or losing them as often as not. The "I am ubar" posts by ET are usually more fubar than ubar.
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Solar Dragons
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 19:06:00 -
[208]
Originally by: Myal Terego
Originally by: Fargas
^^ whiner ALERT !!!!!11111
well, BoB captured EC outpost and killed 20+ poses during siege. Why you can't do it? Oh wait, you can't
Lil different when they barely fight back, and we all know you guys are the pos masters, noone will dispute that.
So it settles it then - you admited we have better skills than you and that's why we are the winners. Why whine about nurfage and disbalance then? Excuse?
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Caldari
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:23:00 -
[209]
Ive every now and then in me old days took out a ship with whatever was available but that scorp ..
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Myal Terego
PAX Interstellar Services
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:28:00 -
[210]
Its just not fun, I could care less about losing ships, Space ninja wars with pos, quit being fun a long time ago(never was). Its the prime reason noone likes you guys, that and your complex ninjas are lame too. Quit fighting Timezone pos warfare, and then chest beating on the forums, and well probably have more fun. You guys almost always lose fleet fights because without a pos to back you up, you guys lose. Look at the last few fleet fights you guys brag about at forums. WHOA! I think all of them are at your pos. GG guys! You wtf pwn with 10 x-large artillerys and carriers to fight battleship gangs! So before you post cry more nub replies, why dont you guys actually show up for a real fight instead of logging out.
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Cohkka
LoneWolf Mining
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:33:00 -
[211]
Please tell me this isn't the original Myal...
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:40:00 -
[212]
lol at myal.
http://killboard.red-alliance.info/?op=fleet&name=19
not an fleet fight .
RA are doing better atm . good going red keep the kb filling.
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Kilpelainen
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.05 21:14:00 -
[213]
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
So it settles it then - you admited we have better skills than you and that's why we are the winners. Why whine about nurfage and disbalance then? Excuse?
I think you are quite superior in pos warfare. Patient, fast and smart most of the time. Pos masters suites pretty well but I think you are slipping a bit as you don't hold quite that many stations anymore.
Good troll anyhow. I went into it but kept it civil. Now give me a cookie.
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Gungankllr
Caldari
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 21:24:00 -
[214]
I was going to make a long, thoughtful post about sportsmanship, good will and being able to laugh about a great fight but I'd just get flamed for the next six pages.
I'll settle for see you in space.
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Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 21:44:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Gungankllr
I was going to make a long, thoughtful post about sportsmanship, good will and being able to laugh about a great fight but I'd just get flamed for the next six pages.
Well, maybe you should post your thoughts, especially about sportsmanship...
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Caldari
Quam Singulari
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.05 23:59:00 -
[216]
I cant remember the last time i saw RA attack a deathstar pos? your bound to lose ships if your attacking a deathstar pos and a hostile gang jumps right ontop of ya...oh wait RA wont know about that...they have never attacked a deathstar pos before.also 1 alliance (RA) vs a coalition of alliances will always get more kills than the coalition against that 1 alliance...i shud know...when i was in foe we wud always take gangs upto d7- and that area and wud always get loads of kills sometimes losing a few ships and sometimes not even losing 1 ships...thats how it is. a small number of people using geurilla tactis will do better than a big alliance/coalition looking for fewer targets.
kthnxbye....just wanted to get into this argument :P now gimme a cookie
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Awox
Awox Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.06 00:09:00 -
[217]
New offencive? LOL at CHIMP for not securing C-J in the first place.
Yeah this kind of warfare is boring, RA are haxploiting EVE and forcing Veritas corps to leave out of boredom to go back to empire ganking.
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Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.06 01:30:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Taka
I cant remember the last time i saw RA attack a deathstar pos? your bound to lose ships if your attacking a deathstar pos and a hostile gang jumps right ontop of ya...oh wait RA wont know about that...they have never attacked a deathstar pos before.also 1 alliance (RA) vs a coalition of alliances will always get more kills than the coalition against that 1 alliance...i shud know...when i was in foe we wud always take gangs upto d7- and that area and wud always get loads of kills sometimes losing a few ships and sometimes not even losing 1 ships...thats how it is. a small number of people using geurilla tactis will do better than a big alliance/coalition looking for fewer targets.
kthnxbye....just wanted to get into this argument :P now gimme a cookie
ammm... hmmm ... didn`t we just kill 12 POS`es last week ? ;-)
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Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.08.06 04:06:00 -
[219]
Originally by: Crellion
Standard excuses
We moved into your home and you say we should have brought the fight to another region? It is silly how much trouble you have to go through just to get an alliance to defend their own region. We came to GW and -V- had plenty of pilots there, but for some reason they didn't stay.
Maybe you had something else to do but it doesn't change the fact that you left gw when we came. I was really disappointed because I heard lots of good stuff about -v- and their will to fight, saw nothing of it
e02 had 25+ enemies when we came, 1 week later it had about 5 enemies...coincidence? You know what it doens't matter what you say, to me you are just in an alliance that use the same bs for not fighting as the rest.
Hope your playtime in safemode backfires.
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Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.06 05:25:00 -
[220]
it¦s simple.. you came for a roadtrip and action. it¦s ok. but our primarys we were forced to chase in this time were not around EO2. thats all m8s. we had a lil bit action, or? you won some, you loose some, dont be angry..
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Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.06 06:07:00 -
[221]
Originally by: Taka
I cant remember the last time i saw RA attack a deathstar pos? your bound to lose ships if your attacking a deathstar pos and a hostile gang jumps right ontop of ya...oh wait RA wont know about that...they have never attacked a deathstar pos before.also 1 alliance (RA) vs a coalition of alliances will always get more kills than the coalition against that 1 alliance...i shud know...when i was in foe we wud always take gangs upto d7- and that area and wud always get loads of kills sometimes losing a few ships and sometimes not even losing 1 ships...thats how it is. a small number of people using geurilla tactis will do better than a big alliance/coalition looking for fewer targets.
kthnxbye....just wanted to get into this argument :P now gimme a cookie
There is a large difference between taking guerilla fleets into hostile territory to kill miners, NPCers, and a ragtag assortment of whoever will come out to fight you, and killing dozens of dreadnaughts and carriers, and waging an extensive POS war many jumps from empire, all against people who are not sitting idly by, but against people who are actively waiting for and attacking your systems.
If you don't see the difference between guerilla tactics and that, perhaps there is a reason FOE no longer exists.
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Posted - 2006.08.06 07:39:00 -
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очень много букф, не асилил
Coalition with ASND - 13k ppl
Red Alliance - 800 ppl
C-J local - 600+ ppl
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Atlus
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.06 07:59:00 -
[223]
to Dirty bunny - Жжошь сцуконах ;D
wonder why ACSN needed to come into this conflict, but its okay.. more targets to kill ;)
and for those ra lags ra exploits etc etc - stfu plz...
i personally saw all those "unfair" methods used by coalition members...
thank you.. your dear Atlus
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Black Avatar
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.06 09:48:00 -
[224]
Originally by: Drilla
How to fix your fitting:
Remove cap recharger (if you need cap use cap power relays on a scorp)
Remove shield hardener (err why would you want to have that? If you are primary in a fleet combat it wont save you)
Remove target painter (your ship is only there to supply eletronic warfare, not damage, remove that module)
Remove nos (You have 3 sensorboosters so you can lock at 200+ km and you have a nos?)
Regarding low, as I see it there's multiple solutions, personally I like this one best:
1600mm Rolled Tungsten, Damage Control, 2x Cap Power Relay.
There you have a useful scorp
4x cruise 2x heavy nos
2x sensor boosters 1x ECCM 5x jammers
2x 1600 plates 1x LAR 1x damage control (switch the plates for stabs if you think that'll save you).
cap relays in a scorp?
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Caldari
LoneStar Industries
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.06 09:54:00 -
[225]
Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 06/08/2006 09:54:31
Originally by: Atlus
wonder why ACSN needed to come into this conflict, but its okay.. more targets to kill ;)
The Hobbits are coming to Insmother.
The Hobbits are coming to Insmother.
The Hobbits are coming to Insmother.
To Insmother.
To Insmother.
To Insmother.
May be they just want to have fun?
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Posted - 2006.08.06 12:24:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Crellion
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I'm not claiming you left because we arrived Crellion, I appreciate you had bigger fish to fry.
It was dissapointing, thats all.
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Taka
Caldari
Quam Singulari
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.06 15:52:00 -
[227]
Originally by: ArcheryTXS
Originally by: Taka
I cant remember the last time i saw RA attack a deathstar pos? your bound to lose ships if your attacking a deathstar pos and a hostile gang jumps right ontop of ya...oh wait RA wont know about that...they have never attacked a deathstar pos before.also 1 alliance (RA) vs a coalition of alliances will always get more kills than the coalition against that 1 alliance...i shud know...when i was in foe we wud always take gangs upto d7- and that area and wud always get loads of kills sometimes losing a few ships and sometimes not even losing 1 ships...thats how it is. a small number of people using geurilla tactis will do better than a big alliance/coalition looking for fewer targets.
kthnxbye....just wanted to get into this argument :P now gimme a cookie
ammm... hmmm ... didn`t we just kill 12 POS`es last week ? ;-)
oh yeah i forgot...they were small unarmed pos's sorry i forgot they were called deathstar pos's
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The Syndicate Inc
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.07 13:38:00 -
[228]
I think to be honest, it was horrible for everyone. I warped to the pos.. and then a few mins later when the grid loaded i was in a pod.. With a very nice looking killmail :P (I love posting a killmail with 7+ t2 fitted BS on it - Makes me feel special)
Quote:
But, we've just received word that ASCN are tired of RA running their complexes every day, and are sending a scouting fleet up to help, in preparation for a possible ASCN full deployment
I dont beleive we were ever gonna make a full deployment due to other factors, but we deffinately wanted to help as much as we could have..
So to close, i lost 2 x BS - Loved every minute of it (and those extra ones to load the node muhahaha) and like i said.. i dont mind dying to lots of battleships, beats the snot out of dying to a tonne of inties.
So GF i say, and maybe next time i wont die as much... Then again, that probably wont happen, so ill start again.
Gf and i look forward to dying again - YAY \o/
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Lord Wimbishi
Caldari
Wolven Elite Guard
Ghosts of Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.07 14:11:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Gor Manufacturer
Edited by: Gor Manufacturer on 04/08/2006 06:50:09
It is more than 10 to 1
You are the REAL MEN with STEEL BALLS
Also .. they don't use Ebay to stay alive either :/
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Kyar
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.07 14:32:00 -
[230]
The game just cant handle pos wars period. It was obviously not thought about too much beforehand. And/or the devs didnt think that so many people would jump into dreads, carriers, a few hundred BS and support all in 1 system attacking/defending POS' which basically crashed the node and made the game unplayable.
I dont think that eve will be seeing battles on this scale again for a very long time.
Shame.
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German Cyberdome Corp
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.07 15:41:00 -
[231]
Edited by: Plutoinum on 07/08/2006 15:44:25
Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq
Originally by: Crellion
Standard excuses
We moved into your home and you say we should have brought the fight to another region? It is silly how much trouble you have to go through just to get an alliance to defend their own region. We came to GW and -V- had plenty of pilots there, but for some reason they didn't stay.
Maybe you had something else to do but it doesn't change the fact that you left gw when we came. I was really disappointed because I heard lots of good stuff about -v- and their will to fight, saw nothing of it
e02 had 25+ enemies when we came, 1 week later it had about 5 enemies...coincidence? You know what it doens't matter what you say, to me you are just in an alliance that use the same bs for not fighting as the rest.
Hope your playtime in safemode backfires.
Simple, our focus was on Scalding Pass, on OPs against RED and on the other coalition regions with conquerable stations.
We wanted everyone for these OPs and we probably wanted to avoid that our forces split and that some people stay in GW or go to GW to have fun fights with CELES and waste their material there, while we lacked the people for the important ops against RED. (I'm not sure about the reason, because I'm not involved in that, but from my point of view it's the only reasonable explanation)
So there was a regroup order for all pilots to Scalding Pass. If I remember it right, it was said that this would be for about two weeks.
I mean, noone can conquer GW, because it has just some NPC stations. you can just leave it alone for 2 weeks, come back, kick the pirates out and neutral carebears out everything is like before.
If the priorities hadn't been on the RA war, I think you would have gotten some nice fights. Well, maybe in the future.
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Trembler
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.08 06:43:00 -
[232]
Originally by: Lord Wimbishi
Originally by: Gor Manufacturer
Edited by: Gor Manufacturer on 04/08/2006 06:50:09
It is more than 10 to 1
You are the REAL MEN with STEEL BALLS
Also .. they don't use Ebay to stay alive either :/
Still bitter that we didn't laught at the joke your alliance was?
Provide proof, or stop trolling. It's a bannable offense you know.
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Lord Wimbishi
Caldari
Wolven Elite Guard
Ghosts of Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.08 07:19:00 -
[233]
Here keep tabs on it for a month. you will see glimpses of things. Of course no one uses their in game name for any deals. I watch this thing a lot to see who buys what and what alliance and organization is spending money to get stuff. I really don't care honestly since many pay to play games in a more fulfilling manner for their experiance. It happens in ALL mmorpg's and it happens in this one alot too.
http://search.ebay.com/EVE-billion_W0QQfromZR8QQfrtsZ50QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1
"Protecting the Ignorant from the immoral scum of the galaxy" |
Lord Wimbishi
Caldari
Wolven Elite Guard
Ghosts of Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.08 07:23:00 -
[234]
It is just a matter of*****y arrogance and unmoral honor that some so boast here and think it is all in game skill, tactics and other things developed IN GAME. But in many cases it isn't just IN GAME. I poke at these things only if people continue to boast they are all this or that when it isn't honest to boot battleskills and behavior that doesn't borderline exploits in game mechanics to win or boast over victories in normal circumstances would not have been the case.
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Pastora
Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.08 07:32:00 -
[235]
Edited by: Pastora on 08/08/2006 07:33:31
Originally by: Lord Wimbishi
Here keep tabs on it for a month. you will see glimpses of things. Of course no one uses their in game name for any deals. I watch this thing a lot to see who buys what and what alliance and organization is spending money to get stuff. I really don't care honestly since many pay to play games in a more fulfilling manner for their experiance. It happens in ALL mmorpg's and it happens in this one alot too.
http://search.ebay.com/EVE-billion_W0QQfromZR8QQfrtsZ50QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1
I can't imagine a person in his normal mind doing any checks on ebay or whatever, unless he is himself doing business there. At least, I'm not interested in this whole ebay thingy even a slight bit. But you stupidly continue to insult people. So, according to people like you we first ***** complexes to sell isk on ebay, then we buy the isks back from there to spend them on our wars? Are you like in your own mind or something? Get a grip on reality, man. Your paranoia is getting out of hand.
So, how much do you earn Lord Wimbishi by selling isk on ebay and writing BS here?
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If ifs and ands were pots and pans,
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Lord Wimbishi
Caldari
Wolven Elite Guard
Ghosts of Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.08 13:17:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Pastora
Edited by: Pastora on 08/08/2006 07:33:31
Originally by: Lord Wimbishi
Here keep tabs on it for a month. you will see glimpses of things. Of course no one uses their in game name for any deals. I watch this thing a lot to see who buys what and what alliance and organization is spending money to get stuff. I really don't care honestly since many pay to play games in a more fulfilling manner for their experiance. It happens in ALL mmorpg's and it happens in this one alot too.
http://search.ebay.com/EVE-billion_W0QQfromZR8QQfrtsZ50QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1
I can't imagine a person in his normal mind doing any checks on ebay or whatever, unless he is himself doing business there. At least, I'm not interested in this whole ebay thingy even a slight bit. But you stupidly continue to insult people. So, according to people like you we first ***** complexes to sell isk on ebay, then we buy the isks back from there to spend them on our wars? Are you like in your own mind or something? Get a grip on reality, man. Your paranoia is getting out of hand.
So, how much do you earn Lord Wimbishi by selling isk on ebay and writing BS here?
Well forgive me bringing it out of game as with most things on this forum. Allow me to educate you on a few things too.
One. I am a REAL soldier serving my country in a real war. I am in Kuwait.
Two. When I activated Ghost I was paying 25$ a day just to play the game around $5 and hour during the two month period Ghost was active.
Three. I don't sell ISK on ebay, even If I was that much of a low life of wanting to. I don't have the time to do it.
Four. I have little else to do during the day and love snooping through ebay for odds and ends and I use to nose over the EVE stuff in curiousity. To many times I came across 'russion confederation' threads with no trust in paypal and a love for snail mail orders.
Five. Yes I will have a vendette against select RA individuals for quite some time, I honor a few still like Fireknight, Mactep and a few others.
I care not if you camp complexes. Though it creates an interesting monopoly sure and it is/was your space to do it in so.. so what if you did that. It was never a complaint of mine so don't say 'people like you'
I only look at facts dude, I try very hard not to assume off of rumors as it is a dangerous thing to do.
RA is only seen as an entity, it isn't broken down into the individuals like we are all. There are people who need, there are people who don't. Being in an alliance does not mean every one shares the same resources, wealth or capability of ships. So yes.. it is very feasable in the funtion you meantioned to pay and sell at the same time in the same alliance.
But.. if you say that in selling, is that an admit to guilt or at least of showing knowledge such activity did indeed occur in the past but not at present? Either way I shouldn't care since I am not active in game at this time till I can complete my current tour of military duty.
Also I do not hide behind alts and say what is on my mind in full view of my main. I am not a coward, may be a bit niave sometimes but not a coward to hide whats on my mind if it is coming from me.
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Chienka
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Miners With Attitude
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Posted - 2006.08.08 13:24:00 -
[237]
This all somewhat reminds me of PA... and what happened to them.
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Raxxar
Friends Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.08 14:18:00 -
[238]
Originally by: Lord Wimbishi
Originally by: Gor Manufacturer
Edited by: Gor Manufacturer on 04/08/2006 06:50:09
It is more than 10 to 1
You are the REAL MEN with STEEL BALLS
Also .. they don't use Ebay to stay alive either :/
If you have proof of somebody doing dirty things with ebay - fill a petition, otherwise dont mention it.
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Pastora
Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.08 15:03:00 -
[239]
Originally by: Lord Wimbishi
skip
Well, let me educate you on a few things two.
1. You are taking the game too seriously.
2. I am a REAL person serving people in a real world. I'm part of the company, which develops software and hardware which millions people are using around the world or going to use in one way or another. I earn pretty enough to try to earn any money whatsoever by gaming.
3. I don't care, how much you pay for the game.
4. I'm 100% sure you can find people that do illegal activities on ebay or paypal in any country.
5. I have never camped complexes. The only complex I have ever visited is one in Empire just when they came out.
6. You seem to care, as you post BS over and over again. And you are really taking it out of game. Try to understand, EVE is not real. It is just a game. Repeat it a few times.
7. There is something wrong with you. :(
8. Also, I always use my main.
If you indeed believe, that someone is selling isk on ebay or whatever, petition it. You have been told it numerous times.
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Sir Juri
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.08.08 15:12:00 -
[240]
Nothing more annoying then someone bringing up his millitary occupation all the time in a "game"! and its been so many times now its to the point of bragging. What you want a medal by the EVE community?
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Lord Wimbishi
Caldari
Wolven Elite Guard
Ghosts of Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.09 06:18:00 -
[241]
Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Lord Wimbishi
skip
Well, let me educate you on a few things two.
1. You are taking the game too seriously.
2. I am a REAL person serving people in a real world. I'm part of the company, which develops software and hardware which millions people are using around the world or going to use in one way or another. I earn pretty enough to try to earn any money whatsoever by gaming.
3. I don't care, how much you pay for the game.
4. I'm 100% sure you can find people that do illegal activities on ebay or paypal in any country.
5. I have never camped complexes. The only complex I have ever visited is one in Empire just when they came out.
6. You seem to care, as you post BS over and over again. And you are really taking it out of game. Try to understand, EVE is not real. It is just a game. Repeat it a few times.
7. There is something wrong with you. :(
8. Also, I always use my main.
If you indeed believe, that someone is selling isk on ebay or whatever, petition it. You have been told it numerous times.
Yup. I am a pretty serious and dedicated dude to what ever cause I believe in or fight for. And for some. EVE is part of their life because friends found and made on here turn out to be part of their social life. The game enriches each person in different ways.
I had a lot of respect for RA. Supported, praised and fully commended them in everyway. There was to many times where we was led on, neglected and not told things in truth as my alliance put down their lives and everything they owned and their corps owned towards helping RA and we got treated badly in return and shown very little courteousy and respect by the major elements in the RA leadership. I do not blame the warriors or miners of the RA alliance, I never did only accused the leadership of being disrespectful, manipulative and extremely greedy and arrogant.
I respect quite a few still in RA but the alliance as an entity needs to die.
And sure :) I know there is something wrong with me, I am mental most time and care for those that I serve with and I will go to what ever lengths to take their lives under my protection and care. So sure I am a bit insane, to arrogant in many regards and of course stubborn as hell to deal with at times.
Besides.. the ebay thing doesn't bug me to much, I only made comment, not a complaint read it carefully since it may sound to YOU as a complaint, it wasn't just an observation that some will do anything to succeed in the game. If they want to use real money to do so, and they have enough to do so, heh more power to them. If it is illegal to use ebay to MAKE money as it is read and such, hope they don't get caught.
But on the other hand someone using ebay to gain stuff in game they normally can't normally and they want to pay for it, sure I don't care for that, but shouldn't boast as how bad they are when they do so. THAT is all I wording. Yeah it may be low sure but why should they care? I think it is more jealousy then anything else. Would I be jealous? Sure but do I care? not really if they just keep their mouths shut.
"Protecting the Ignorant from the immoral scum of the galaxy" |
Lord Wimbishi
Caldari
Wolven Elite Guard
Ghosts of Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.09 06:28:00 -
[242]
Besides I like finding ways to push buttons and getting people ****ed to derail a thread that is obviously hateful, spiteful and surely has no professional reason to exist.
There is a high amount of emotion on each side even if it is only 1 person in a hundred that keeps a hating fire alive, it will react and spread.
I can stand a few people hating me, it keeps them from spreading hate to others because I know I can hold it.
So. please continue to hate me and save the rest of the community and call me what ever if it will give you a entertaining purpose in the game.
Cheers.
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Obivan Efa
The Machines
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Posted - 2006.08.09 07:39:00 -
[243]
Originally by: Lord Wimbishi
I respect quite a few still in RA but the alliance as an entity needs to die.
RA is an artifact - an figment.
The only thing that has metter - members... real ppl.
I'm quite sure u have no idea of modern RA organisation and it's today leadership...
RA has a lot of changes...
Such hard pressure made some kind of "purge" in RA lines...
Most of RA players now are good and energetic ppl who don't care of easier life in the game and personal inrichment... They are true warriors who fihgts for alliance common good and for comrades.
Those who use allaince for personal enrichment first of all already left RA... I'm quite sure that most of them join Coalition alliances.
That's all my own IMHO... but It's all I can see from the outside...
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Lord Wimbishi
Caldari
Wolven Elite Guard
Ghosts of Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.09 08:12:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Obivan Efa
Originally by: Lord Wimbishi
I respect quite a few still in RA but the alliance as an entity needs to die.
RA is an artifact - an figment.
The only thing that has metter - members... real ppl.
I'm quite sure u have no idea of modern RA organisation and it's today leadership...
RA has a lot of changes...
Such hard pressure made some kind of "purge" in RA lines...
Most of RA players now are good and energetic ppl who don't care of easier life in the game and personal inrichment... They are true warriors who fihgts for alliance common good and for comrades.
Those who use allaince for personal enrichment first of all already left RA... I'm quite sure that most of them join Coalition alliances.
That's all my own IMHO... but It's all I can see from the outside...
Indeed it may be right. but the hate and anger the name of RA will continue to outlive and overshadow any attempt to regain honor and Respect. Much like PA and several other alliances. There was good people and good intentions even molded out of a splotchy past. But the name still outlived any good will or intention of any individual in it.
Form a new alliance, create a new image and you will see at least 80% of this hate will disapear overnight. Some will show respect, some will spurn, spite and otherwise continue to flame the dead name but.. for a new beginning an end to the past beginning must be made first.
The people in RA will never know peace, nor with most of the south while this war goes on. I am sure another war will happen in time after it is over of course but at this point of time, this war is the focus of most of the southern inhabitants and will continue on till one side destroys the other.
To learn to live you must learn to let go to make a new beginning, with it you will make it a better future. The stubborn leaders of the Red Alliance needs to learn this and it is their stubborness alone that causes this war to continue. The past will repeat itself if the mentality doesn't change to keep it from repeating itself.
Will RA leadership be more courteous and respectful to their neighbors?
Will the not be so manipulatively greedy over others?
And will they have honest diplomacy that is more thought out and professional in dealings with it's neighbors?
It is these things that was in failure that I have seen that is why so many hate them in the first place. And granted haven't been given a chance to see if they are capable of doing so since there is to much hate for the RA name.
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Obivan Efa
The Machines
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Posted - 2006.08.09 08:33:00 -
[245]
Do u think RA need kind of "rebrending"?
It's a strong move =)
Change ur name and u'll get a pardon.
I don't think it will be so easy...
Most of the Alliances came through such thing.. and what?
Not names makes us but deals.
If u are a scum u can name urself a "funny blossom" or "guardians of light and order" or whatever... it will not change ur essence.
But u are right... It quite easy to defile ur good name but much harder to get respect.
Anyway I don't think that RA discredited itself so much that should die. There are no "clean", "good" or "total fair" alliances in EVE IMHO.
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Burzhuj
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.09 08:57:00 -
[246]
Lord Wimbishi, you are talked to much
About your and my allinses from my point of view. You coming to Cashe, after some time you realise that Cache little to hot for you, and RA don`t do babysiting work around you. So you decide to pull out, no one in RA have any probemm whith that, but you NAPed our enemy... I don`t know who offered NAP first, you or Coalition, BUT i 200% sure that Coalition perfectly know how RA react. For me, it looks like well planed and executed Coalition provocation. Next time, when you try to NAP whith enemy of your friend, ask your friend what he will do, and don`t look so surprised after.
All this it only my opinion.
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Mutant
UA Industry
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.09 09:05:00 -
[247]
Originally by: Lord Wimbishi
Indeed it may be right. but the hate and anger the name of RA will continue to outlive and overshadow any attempt to regain honor and Respect. Much like PA and several other alliances. There was good people and good intentions even molded out of a splotchy past. But the name still outlived any good will or intention of any individual in it.
Form a new alliance, create a new image and you will see at least 80% of this hate will disapear overnight. Some will show respect, some will spurn, spite and otherwise continue to flame the dead name but.. for a new beginning an end to the past beginning must be made first.
The people in RA will never know peace, nor with most of the south while this war goes on. I am sure another war will happen in time after it is over of course but at this point of time, this war is the focus of most of the southern inhabitants and will continue on till one side destroys the other.
To learn to live you must learn to let go to make a new beginning, with it you will make it a better future. The stubborn leaders of the Red Alliance needs to learn this and it is their stubborness alone that causes this war to continue. The past will repeat itself if the mentality doesn't change to keep it from repeating itself.
Will RA leadership be more courteous and respectful to their neighbors?
Will the not be so manipulatively greedy over others?
And will they have honest diplomacy that is more thought out and professional in dealings with it's neighbors?
It is these things that was in failure that I have seen that is why so many hate them in the first place. And granted haven't been given a chance to see if they are capable of doing so since there is to much hate for the RA name.
Red Alliance are not interested opinion of the man with the washed brains... It is consequences of propaganda against RA, begun ATUK's (war 5 vs RA).
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Lord Wimbishi
Caldari
Wolven Elite Guard
Ghosts of Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.09 09:14:00 -
[248]
Originally by: Burzhuj
Lord Wimbishi, you are talked to much
About your and my allinses from my point of view. You coming to Cashe, after some time you realise that Cache little to hot for you, and RA don`t do babysiting work around you. So you decide to pull out, no one in RA have any probemm whith that, but you NAPed our enemy... I don`t know who offered NAP first, you or Coalition, BUT i 200% sure that Coalition perfectly know how RA react. For me, it looks like well planed and executed Coalition provocation. Next time, when you try to NAP whith enemy of your friend, ask your friend what he will do, and don`t look so surprised after.
All this it only my opinion.
We came in to support with promises of growth. It wasn't provided and it was well documented we needed time to build and there was strong assurances that RA was gonna focus military support in and around Cache. It was seen that we would be focused on and it was addressed Ghost would not last long in Cache without support. It was offered but was limited only given by the miners and people who was there, not by the main military and leadership who did offer it.
It was also the constant 'readdressing' of policies and a weekly standard of miscommunication and misinformation that could have been willingly given and not just bumped into ONCE the crossroad was reach to know it.
We was mislead, manipulated and neglected as a friendly SUPPORTING alliance and we had enough and it is for that reason we left. It was told many times we did NOT have the industrial capacity for a extended fight and was assured we would have been given support. If the RA leadership was straight up with the facts we would have went into the situation differently.
we was accused of betraying RA. It is common for a Alliance who no longer wants part of a war to get out of it by NAPing. We didn't fire on RA or instigate any firefight for an entire week, almost two while RA did everything possible in all beligerance to cause us to do so to include flaming us on the board which got smacked right back in their faces as to have left Ghost out to hang and dry.
we get stuff locked up immediate once I annouced we was withdrawing. RA leadership locked up our stuff before we even declared a NAP and called us backstabbers and cowards and expect us to go about our way like good 'children' and let it go.
No you sir are completely wrong as many Ghost pilots and a good number of RA pilots saw just that, but with many things RA leadership always lied and presented false things to their people who just accepted it over any proof. Yeah it was really professional of them.
"Protecting the Ignorant from the immoral scum of the galaxy" |
Lord Wimbishi
Caldari
Wolven Elite Guard
Ghosts of Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.09 09:19:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Mutant
Red Alliance are not interested opinion of the man with the washed brains... It is consequences of propaganda against RA, begun ATUK's (war 5 vs RA).
No sir it is from personal political experiance during the two months Ghost was working with RA. I found; we found our own proof to what was begin said and not being reiterated by what was being said.
We had ignored all the rumors when we started to help RA. It was the RA leadership that proved what I said above to be true, not the propoganda of any enemy alliance it was fighting.
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Ka Ten
Aliastra
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Posted - 2006.08.09 09:27:00 -
[250]
ghosts are dead now, its also RA fault? lol
betrayers were punished =))
end of story
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Burzhuj
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.09 10:12:00 -
[251]
Lord Wimbishi what kind of military support do you whant form RA? BIG blob and 23/7 camping? Ra use different tactics. As military man you should know which tactics work best against outnumbered enemy. Preventing enemy to form big blob it not enough support for you? When your allince fighting in Cache against our enemy, you have pretty good killboard statistics. What happen when you join coalition? Cause after that, yours allince military power be clouse to zero.
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Komolov
Gallente
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.09 14:27:00 -
[252]
Edited by: Komolov on 09/08/2006 14:30:46
Stopped reading at page 5.
ASCN are top-whinners. Nobody can beat you guys in that sport discipline.
Edit: just noticed Wimbishi's posts. Just ignore that guy. He's world champion in power-loving and in graphorrhea.
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Caldari Cylon
The Merchant Marines
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Posted - 2006.08.09 15:29:00 -
[253]
nothing to do with this thread but i made a RA station camp in jita wet there pants by undocking a cruiser.
One of them tryed to warp jam me but the brainstrust locked the station and went pop and the raven ran for it.
Thats all carry on with whatever you were doing
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Option A: You talk, we listen, no pain.
Option B: You don't talk, I remove your thumbs with my pliers, it will hurt.
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Lord Wimbishi
Caldari
Wolven Elite Guard
Ghosts of Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.11 11:59:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Burzhuj
Edited by: Burzhuj on 09/08/2006 12:49:55
Lord Wimbishi what kind of military support do you wanted form RA? BIG blob and 23/7 camping? Ra use different tactics. As military man you should know wich tactic work best when outnumbered by enemy. Preventing enemy form forming big blob is not enough support for you? When your alliance fought in Cache against our enemyes, you had pretty good killboard statistic. What happened when you join coalition? Cause after that, your alliance military power was clouse to zero.
Edit: spelling
Sorry for the late reply. But here is the honest answer.
When we left out 60% of the alliance's stuff had been locked up in the stations we was using as bases against the coalition. We had to move back to empire THEN down to N7 after a few weeks of camping out, mining and other stuff.
And Burzhuh, RA didn't prevent any of the coaltion's from collecting in Cache at all. They DID blob there and began running sizable ops all over Cache, the majority of RA military was in Curse or around that area.
From what was told the RA's military strategy was not to be in the area they wanted to protect thinking the enemy will not go there for hostilities. That sir is a very odd way of looking at a war where RA was being attacked to be exterminated and destroyed, not just undergoing a war for fun fights.
We was really unprepared to carry any fight against RA when we went to N7, with a niave hope to build up enough to support the coalition. But the ambitions were dashed when Mactep and his vets started to run ops against our alliance, something we was unprepared for overall since we faced a terrible material shortage of ships, modules and ammo on a daily basis.
All we asked for was military support and some presense to help fend off quick strikes and the 20+ ship fleets that ran rampant throughout Cache. We only got the support from select brave RA pilots, pilots whom RA leaders considered 2nd rate pilots, newbs and miners. We held several corps in honor when we opened hostility to RA and didn't fire on those corps for their support when we was supporting RA. we even paid for several RA pilots ships and clones when a few accidents happen when we was focused on the military RA corps who was in open aggression against us.
This isn't a flame or anything to stir up hate, this statement is just the facts and perceptions of Ghost at that time. Hope this answered your question
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Burzhuj
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:16:00 -
[255]
Well, looks like interpritation of what really happened heavely depending on the point of view. We all making our own mistakes, perhaps RA did some, perhaps your alliance did too (after all it in coma, didn't it?) I don't think we will be able to found common groud about it.
But one thing i'm sure about - now no one in RA have any regret about what happened (it not only about story with GHOST, it about whole war). Yes, we lost territory, we lost members. But we keep our pride, we was not broke under really heavy pressure. In fact RA is now stronger then ever. It dosen't matter how this conflict ends, but RA secure his place in history of EVE universe already (and it is FAR FROM OVER).
PS Congrats with your marriage.
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Flipco
Muppet Fuggers
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:01:00 -
[256]
Edited by: Flipco on 11/08/2006 20:01:57
Originally by: Burzhuj
It dosen't matter how this conflict ends, but RA secure his place in history of EVE universe already (and it is FAR FROM OVER).
To RA - come by and help us out if you have some spare time.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=377393
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Lord Wimbishi
Caldari
Wolven Elite Guard
Ghosts of Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.12 07:34:00 -
[257]
There is merit to the wisdom there dude. I had aspirations with Ghost and many in the alliance was hopeful. Things was rushed overall and in the end we wasn't ready for a long drawn out conflict, supporting or otherwise.
Many lessons was learned which WILL be applied to future attempts for success by me and other individuals who have high aims for things in this game. Maybe down the road maybe we all can see the same light again.
I would tend to agree that RA 'lost weight' and toned up a bit due to the pressures it has been facing. Every alliance goes through this process. The ones that have been around for a bit that is, keeping the devote hard cores while the flimsy hanger ons drift off elsewhere.
RA has a lot of targets now, steel nerves and has a concentrated veteran core which is providing most of the fight. It is totally understandable that RA would be getting more kills against a numerically superior opponent. The military power of the total force arrayed against RA is very diluted due to the high mixture of newbs with vets. But the industrial balance and weight of finance is against RA which makes up for the short fall of said average 'concentrated' experiance in a given area.
Russian determination probably was underestimated no doubt, and kudos sure since many alliances would have fallen by now but how long will it last? Eventually one of two things will happen. RA will be finally rubbed out and removed or the powers attacking RA will lose interest.
What steps are being taken if RA does get overwhelmed? What would you do and where would you all go if such an event happened?
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Burzhuj
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.12 11:48:00 -
[258]
Originally by: Lord Wimbishi
skip
Your post just indicate how little you know about RA
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Lord Wimbishi
Caldari
Wolven Elite Guard
Ghosts of Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.12 18:10:00 -
[259]
Then educate me and us all then please. Saying that things are wrong and not providing a more true sense of YOUR preception isn't giving much basis on your viewpoint. Please offer it.
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Dragerest
Total Warehouse Logistics
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.12 18:33:00 -
[260]
this is not a flame but sounds like it sorry. but i just have one question:
can someone tell me why it is taking 4-6 alliance *maybe more maybe less* to "kill" RA?
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Burzhuj
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.12 19:06:00 -
[261]
Originally by: Lord Wimbishi
Then educate me and us all then please. Saying that things are wrong and not providing a more true sense of YOUR preception isn't giving much basis on your viewpoint. Please offer it.
Why should i? Let pretend that is higly classified
Originally by: Dragerest
can someone tell me why it is taking 4-6 alliance *maybe more maybe less* to "kill" RA?
It simple. Becouse they have no idea what they dealing with
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Abye
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Posted - 2006.08.12 19:12:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Dragerest
this is not a flame but sounds like it sorry. but i just have one question:
can someone tell me why it is taking 4-6 alliance *maybe more maybe less* to "kill" RA?
Tell us how to take down well defended Deathstar POSses in a heavily lagging system ?
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dailyhazard
Caldari
Unauthorised.
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Posted - 2006.08.12 19:55:00 -
[263]
Originally by: Abye
Originally by: Dragerest
this is not a flame but sounds like it sorry. but i just have one question:
can someone tell me why it is taking 4-6 alliance *maybe more maybe less* to "kill" RA?
Tell us how to take down well defended Deathstar POSses in a heavily lagging system ?
dont bring 400 people,
to be honest, ra you have to respect them for what they do, they hang in there.
If you whinge about them not fighting, logging off etc, this will ofc be your preference to do so, but lets be honest would you fight when the odds are stacked against you so much that you cant actually fight. Fighting outnumbered is ok, but when its such large numbers its hard to do and tbh its better for funds to keep your ship until you can get a fair fight.
-v- and freinds, i have little respect for the majority of your pilots who post on the forums, whenever a ra/rat player posts something, its flame flame flame within 5 minutes and tbh its pretty discraceful discipline.
Keep Going ra.
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Posted - 2006.08.12 20:23:00 -
[264]
Originally by: dailyhazard
Originally by: Abye
Originally by: Dragerest
this is not a flame but sounds like it sorry. but i just have one question:
can someone tell me why it is taking 4-6 alliance *maybe more maybe less* to "kill" RA?
Tell us how to take down well defended Deathstar POSses in a heavily lagging system ?
dont bring 400 people
And then, have them blow up unsupported dreads ? Or warp with 10 battleships into a deathstar pos to have them pop almost instantly ?
To overwhelm a defending force you have to field a bigger attacking force since defending is a lot easier. This grew to the point that made the system node unstable, and lag favours the defender even more.
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Aramark
Total Warehouse Logistics
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Posted - 2006.08.12 20:35:00 -
[265]
Edited by: Aramark on 12/08/2006 20:41:49
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Archonon
Caldari
Section XIII
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.08.12 21:18:00 -
[266]
Originally by: Lord Wimbishi
There is merit to the wisdom there dude. I had aspirations with Ghost and many in the alliance was hopeful. Things was rushed overall and in the end we wasn't ready for a long drawn out conflict, supporting or otherwise.
Many lessons was learned which WILL be applied to future attempts for success by me and other individuals who have high aims for things in this game. Maybe down the road maybe we all can see the same light again.
I would tend to agree that RA 'lost weight' and toned up a bit due to the pressures it has been facing. Every alliance goes through this process. The ones that have been around for a bit that is, keeping the devote hard cores while the flimsy hanger ons drift off elsewhere.
RA has a lot of targets now, steel nerves and has a concentrated veteran core which is providing most of the fight. It is totally understandable that RA would be getting more kills against a numerically superior opponent. The military power of the total force arrayed against RA is very diluted due to the high mixture of newbs with vets. But the industrial balance and weight of finance is against RA which makes up for the short fall of said average 'concentrated' experiance in a given area.
Russian determination probably was underestimated no doubt, and kudos sure since many alliances would have fallen by now but how long will it last? Eventually one of two things will happen. RA will be finally rubbed out and removed or the powers attacking RA will lose interest.
What steps are being taken if RA does get overwhelmed? What would you do and where would you all go if such an event happened?
Too long.
And we don't care.
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Dragerest
Total Warehouse Logistics
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.12 21:25:00 -
[267]
doesn't really answer my question. from the OP is says "According to the alliance statistics, that's roughly 10,000 pilots vs. RA's 870"
why not just cut off the supply
"Right now, we have -V-, KOS, Chimp, LV, and whoever-owns-cache-this-week in the Coalition."
than there is "But, we've just received word that ASCN are tired of RA running their complexes every day, and are sending a scouting fleet up to help, in preparation for a possible ASCN full deployment."
all that for just 870?
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Admiral IceBlock
Caldari
Northern Intelligence
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.12 22:03:00 -
[268]
well gl hf here too
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MACTEP
Solar Dragons
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.12 23:02:00 -
[269]
Lord Wimbishi ghosts are dead......
without territory.....without fleet.....without anything.....and i think that is your fault...now you have + from coalition but you have no alliance(39 people).....are you happy?
try to understand what did you do wrong.
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Crellion
Art of War
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Posted - 2006.08.12 23:29:00 -
[270]
Edited by: Crellion on 12/08/2006 23:30:43
Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq
Originally by: Crellion
Standard excuses
We moved into your home and you say we should have brought the fight to another region? It is silly how much trouble you have to go through just to get an alliance to defend their own region. We came to GW and -V- had plenty of pilots there, but for some reason they didn't stay.
Maybe you had something else to do but it doesn't change the fact that you left gw when we came. I was really disappointed because I heard lots of good stuff about -v- and their will to fight, saw nothing of it
e02 had 25+ enemies when we came, 1 week later it had about 5 enemies...coincidence? You know what it doens't matter what you say, to me you are just in an alliance that use the same bs for not fighting as the rest.
Hope your playtime in safemode backfires.
I am not in an alliance. You are welcome to dec me and see if I fight or not. I promise you fights just you make the dec pls cause in our first month of freedom from alliance restraint we have filled all our dec slots
BTW me on holliday abroad to sunny Greek Isles 13-27/8 dont do a week of dec and say:"I didnt see you anywhere Crellion"
I ll be waiting big boy come and make me safespot
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Lord Wimbishi
Caldari
Wolven Elite Guard
Ghosts of Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.13 04:31:00 -
[271]
Originally by: MACTEP
Lord Wimbishi ghosts are dead......
without territory.....without fleet.....without anything.....and i think that is your fault...now you have + from coalition but you have no alliance(39 people).....are you happy?
try to understand what did you do wrong.
Um.. the alliance was deactivated, it is not dead. I had made a decision with a few others and withdrew to finish my tour in Kuwait. What was Ghost when over to Myriad. I had reasoned I couldn't put in enough time to lead the alliance effectively and fully. 3-5 hours simply wasn't enough time. The biggest turn of events happened when I left to get married. We had internal political troubles and tried to do to much at once and it overwhelmed the majority of the membership which was to inexperianced or patient to deal with what was going on.
Like it or not, Ghost will come back some time in the future once I am able to give it my full time and dedication as I had desired to in the beginning.
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.13 07:27:00 -
[272]
LW , as an advise stop arguing with RA , you wotn get anything plus it is a total waste of time and pointless realy.
RA have some victories lately that makes em feel high and mighty but the coming changes will soon be intresting
"What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Komolov
Gallente
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.14 11:27:00 -
[273]
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
LW , as an advise stop arguing with RA , you wotn get anything plus it is a total waste of time and pointless realy.
By his world records in graphorrhea he's trying to change the history. Unfortunately for him no one including God himself can not change things happened in the past. Cheap betrayal already committed.
Quote:
RA have some victories lately that makes em feel high and mighty but the coming changes will soon be intresting
You're going to join love party here?
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Posted - 2006.08.14 11:41:00 -
[274]
Would be nice if some of the parties in the fighting could put up some video of it.....like some others has in other treads.....
I so enjoy those movies
Best of luck to all involved
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MACTEP
Solar Dragons
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.14 12:05:00 -
[275]
2Lord Wambishi i hope you will recreate your alliance...gl in future
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Stybbe
RUS Academy
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.14 13:52:00 -
[276]
hey mom i'm a forum warrior !!111
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Ilmonstre
Minmatar
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.08.14 16:14:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Stybbe
hey mom i'm a forum warrior !!111
omg you are
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.08.14 16:56:00 -
[278]
*Still cries when he sees stybbe*... Shouldent be allowed to buy chars...
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Lord Wimbishi
Caldari
Wolven Elite Guard
Ghosts of Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.15 08:08:00 -
[279]
Originally by: MACTEP
2Lord Wimbishi i hope you will recreate your alliance...gl in future
Aye one always look to the future dude. Thank you
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OzaLoni
Gallente
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.15 08:59:00 -
[280]
/derails thread
Quote:
The biggest turn of events happened when I left to get married.
Congrats mate...! I hope it brings you happpiness and joy.
Now where were we, oh yeah you guys killing each other .... Pls carry on.... !!!
/kicks thread back on the rails
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Mr Happ
Gallente
Hellbound Saints
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Posted - 2006.08.15 09:50:00 -
[281]
in all honesty, i think its kinda sad that a coalition of nearly 7k pilots cannot remove a puny 870 man alliance from one station,
And seriously
STOP WITH THE DAMN THREADS
Stand up or get brushed aside, deal with RA
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Raxxar
Friends Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.15 11:39:00 -
[282]
Edited by: Raxxar on 15/08/2006 11:39:07
Originally by: Mr Happ
in all honesty, i think its kinda sad that a coalition of nearly 7k pilots cannot remove a puny 870 man alliance from one station,
From two stations, and please, let this topic rest in peace...
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Papa Digger
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.15 11:42:00 -
[283]
Originally by: Mr Happ
in all honesty, i think its kinda sad that a coalition of nearly 7k pilots cannot remove a puny 870 man alliance from one station,
May be you didn't know, but RA already have TWO station.
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Vile rat
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.15 12:09:00 -
[284]
Originally by: Papa Digger
Originally by: Mr Happ
in all honesty, i think its kinda sad that a coalition of nearly 7k pilots cannot remove a puny 870 man alliance from one station,
May be you didn't know, but RA already have TWO station.
Why don't you post a thread about it.
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Papa Digger
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.15 12:29:00 -
[285]
Originally by: Vile rat
Originally by: Papa Digger
May be you didn't know, but RA already have TWO station.
Why don't you post a thread about it.
It wasn't great achievement.
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Beyond Horizon
Solar Dragons
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.15 12:31:00 -
[286]
Originally by: Papa Digger
Originally by: Mr Happ
in all honesty, i think its kinda sad that a coalition of nearly 7k pilots cannot remove a puny 870 man alliance from one station,
May be you didn't know, but RA already have TWO station.
3 actually, but let's keep quite for a while about this, mkay?
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putukas
Enterprise Estonia
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.15 12:35:00 -
[287]
why everybody are taking about 7k vs 870 etc. Have you ever seen in your alliance chat filled with all the members in your alliance? Reality is something else then numbers. I bet every corp with ~200 members dont have 200 members online and active all the time and im pretty sure it will never happen. Even our little 20 member corp has some alts joined to corp and some inactive members.
and to be very honoust i would like to be more in red alliance shoes then in current. Atleast they find something to shoot. We have to roam around geminate and curse to find some fun. Red attacks coalition only when they have right conditions (range and numbers) and im not complaining about it. Its right tactics to use. I would do the same. Other hand coalition wants to hold preasure on Red in all costs. Thats why there is so much losses and lost fights. If there is small army - there is less losses. Big army - more losses. Logical.
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Gallente Citizen 1515
Gallente
Let's Drop Trous
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Posted - 2006.08.15 18:37:00 -
[288]
Originally by: Mr Happ
in all honesty, i think its kinda sad that a coalition of nearly 7k pilots cannot remove a puny 870 man alliance from one station,
And seriously
STOP WITH THE DAMN THREADS
Stand up or get brushed aside, deal with RA
To summarize Mr Happ's eloquent position, "yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap"
*pant*pant*pant*
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Stybbe
RUS Academy
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.16 00:27:00 -
[289]
Originally by: putukas
7k vs little ra
what else u can compare ? alliance chats ? NO u cant ... so only overall numbers count. see ?
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Raxxar
Friends Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.16 07:10:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Stybbe
Originally by: putukas
7k vs little ra
what else u can compare ? alliance chats ? NO u cant ... so only overall numbers count. see ?
I know! I know! RA killboard has a nice feature of counting active pilots in corp/alliance, You can use that numbers:)
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Nebba Kenezzer
Minmatar
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.16 07:29:00 -
[291]
I once ate an entire red candle.
Nebba - The Vocal Majority
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UAxDEATH
The xDEATHx Squadron
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Posted - 2006.08.16 12:39:00 -
[292]
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer
I once ate an entire red candle.
How ??? like with ur map making stuf joshua.....oh i`m sorry nebba
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Raeff
Caldari
Millennium
E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.08.16 14:19:00 -
[293]
Edited by: Raeff on 16/08/2006 14:21:54
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
Originally by: Papa Digger
Originally by: Mr Happ
in all honesty, i think its kinda sad that a coalition of nearly 7k pilots cannot remove a puny 870 man alliance from one station,
May be you didn't know, but RA already have TWO station.
3 actually, but let's keep quite for a while about this, mkay?
yes plz .. im sure something will be mentioned about why we allowed that to happen soon enough .. and no we didnt allie or nap RA, all you conspiracy people out there
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Ugluuk
Caldari
Alcatraz Inc.
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.08.16 15:01:00 -
[294]
IM A FRIEND OF RA
Now that felt wierd to say..im getting dizzy
If everyone thought the same about themselfes as i do, Eve would be a place full of arrogant *****s in latex underwear and pink t-shirts |
Beyond Horizon
Solar Dragons
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.16 15:31:00 -
[295]
Originally by: Raeff
Edited by: Raeff on 16/08/2006 14:21:54
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
Originally by: Papa Digger
Originally by: Mr Happ
in all honesty, i think its kinda sad that a coalition of nearly 7k pilots cannot remove a puny 870 man alliance from one station,
May be you didn't know, but RA already have TWO station.
3 actually, but let's keep quite for a while about this, mkay?
yes plz .. im sure something will be mentioned about why we allowed that to happen soon enough .. and no we didnt allie or nap RA, all you conspiracy people out there
My girlfriend told me: "darling, you have to stop playing EVE, you are laughing like a mad man over a post... jesus =/"
That post really made me laugh... oh the clueless ones :D
Anyways, ofc it's we who got pwned in cache, that's why ERA ALLOWED us to live here bla bla bla :)))))
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Nebba Kenezzer
Minmatar
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.16 15:54:00 -
[296]
Edited by: Nebba Kenezzer on 16/08/2006 15:54:24
Originally by: UAxDEATH
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer
I once ate an entire red candle.
How ??? like with ur map making stuf joshua.....oh i`m sorry nebba
If I'm Joshua, then you're Moses!
Nebba - The Vocal Majority
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Raeff
Caldari
Millennium
E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.08.16 16:55:00 -
[297]
Edited by: Raeff on 16/08/2006 17:01:26
Edited by: Raeff on 16/08/2006 16:59:56
Edited by: Raeff on 16/08/2006 16:56:25
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
Originally by: Raeff
Edited by: Raeff on 16/08/2006 14:21:54
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
Originally by: Papa Digger
Originally by: Mr Happ
in all honesty, i think its kinda sad that a coalition of nearly 7k pilots cannot remove a puny 870 man alliance from one station,
May be you didn't know, but RA already have TWO station.
3 actually, but let's keep quite for a while about this, mkay?
yes plz .. im sure something will be mentioned about why we allowed that to happen soon enough .. and no we didnt allie or nap RA, all you conspiracy people out there
My girlfriend told me: "darling, you have to stop playing EVE, you are laughing like a mad man over a post... jesus =/"
That post really made me laugh... oh the clueless ones :D
Anyways, ofc it's we who got pwned in cache, that's why ERA ALLOWED us to live here bla bla bla :)))))
we can put the POSs back up that we took down if you like .. take a look around, did you not notice a lack of ERA the last few days? .. surely you arent suggesting you took it by force
there is no fun in POS wars, so we decided to stop not having fun .. we arent going far, so see ya again REAL soon
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Beyond Horizon
Solar Dragons
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.16 18:07:00 -
[298]
really good propaganda dude, maybe some newb will believe in that BS ;) anyways GL in whatever you do next :D
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Raeff
Caldari
Millennium
E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.08.17 02:51:00 -
[299]
when your members say "NO MORE POS BS! WE ARE TIRED OF THE EBIL POS WARFARE! WE DID NOT WANT TO DO THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE!", you move on before you lose them
the game is supposed to be fun .. im just being honest with you
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Komolov
Gallente
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.17 07:46:00 -
[300]
Edited by: Komolov on 17/08/2006 07:46:52
GL to ERA on new paths. And wish you to never return back to that damn south-east (at least until the moment we'll become friends) :)
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Pehova Mindtriq
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.08.17 08:08:00 -
[301]
Originally by: Crellion
Edited by: Crellion on 12/08/2006 23:30:43
Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq
Originally by: Crellion
Standard excuses
We moved into your home and you say we should have brought the fight to another region? It is silly how much trouble you have to go through just to get an alliance to defend their own region. We came to GW and -V- had plenty of pilots there, but for some reason they didn't stay.
Maybe you had something else to do but it doesn't change the fact that you left gw when we came. I was really disappointed because I heard lots of good stuff about -v- and their will to fight, saw nothing of it
e02 had 25+ enemies when we came, 1 week later it had about 5 enemies...coincidence? You know what it doens't matter what you say, to me you are just in an alliance that use the same bs for not fighting as the rest.
Hope your playtime in safemode backfires.
I am not in an alliance. You are welcome to dec me and see if I fight or not. I promise you fights just you make the dec pls cause in our first month of freedom from alliance restraint we have filled all our dec slots
BTW me on holliday abroad to sunny Greek Isles 13-27/8 dont do a week of dec and say:"I didnt see you anywhere Crellion"
I ll be waiting big boy come and make me safespot
We have good fights in fountain with bob, xelas, horde and goonswarn. Don't think anyone is ready to give up that so we maybe can get a fight from you. If you really want fights against competent fighters you should visit Fountain.
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