Alundil
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Posted - 2014.09.19 21:59:00 -
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Leoric Firesword wrote:I used to live the the WH the corp I'm in owned. I moved out. Why? lack of content. We're in a C2 (small corp) and 1 motivated pilot can keep the system completely clean of sigs to run (other than ore, that usually takes 2 pilots). The rest of the time you have to go to lowsec or nullsec to find any type of content and well, it just wasn't worth it for me.
This keeps the corp from being able to get more pilots out there because that same 1 or 2 motivated pilots can clean out the close LS systems or our neighboring WH and everyone else is left standing around with their thumbs up their butts.
Since we can't get more people out to the WH because of lack of content we can't move up to a higher WH with escalations or more group oriented PvE/PvP.
C1's need to be able to support 1-5 active pilots, C2's 6-12 active pilots and right now they just can't. A C1 isn't worth jumping into for anything other than PI and a C2 can only keep 1 pilot active. If you limit your definition of "content" to PVE sites and refuse (apparently) to look for that same kind of "content" in the wh connections adjacent to you then yes. It's entirely possible for a very small number of active pilots to deplete all of that "content" in the home system. You imply that this is a low class wh issue but the reality is that it is entirely possible for the same low number of pilots to deplete PVE sites in any class of wh system. If you're using a wh for nothing other than ISK generation via sleeper sites but fail to run those in your static and then roll/repeat you're missing the true income potential in wspace c4 and below. the ISK is literally in the static.
With that said, if you're trying to get new people to move to "any part of EVE" for the PVE content alone then you are really doing them a disservice as EVE's PVE is the absolute worst out of any MMO that I can think of...ever (potential exceptions are the new burner missions).
The "content" that most ppl here are looking for is of the "I shoot you, you shoot me and x number of explosions occur" variety. That is the missing part of wspace in EVE and has been on the decline for quite some time. Having had numerous conversations with Civilwars (and others) about this very thing we've agreed (basically) that there's not really anything that we, the players, can do as a group to effect a change. Human nature tends to look for groupings that are beneficial to the members of said groupings. That means that groups will tend to always gain more pilots rather than actively shed pilots (unless the leadership has a strict idea on active numbers caps and engagement profiles).
In essence; 1. If there are no penalties to large corp/alliance sizes then there will be very few groups that willingly choose to remain small. 2. If there are no compelling reasons to do battle with a neighbor (such that have an effect on their home/membership/income), there will be a low frequency of battle. 3. If there are no game reasons to move into wspace (engaging new CCP content, higher realized income potential, specialized equipment/items/etc) then the number of pilots willing to move in will remain low.
Some of these, CCP might be able to look into. Some of these are related to human nature and the general desire of status quo that many people desire as well as varying degrees of risk taking/aversion. In my mind, #s 2 and 3 are the most pertinent, but also the most difficult to address.
Wspace is still my favorite type of space. However, at this point I'm pretty certain that it's my favorite type due to nostalgia and not because there are more fun things/people to do/shoot.
Until some of those things change, this will likely be the status quo for wspace.
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