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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.08.06 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Henrik Yssuts bacon doesn't come from cows, but from pigs. i don't know what bizarro form of bacon you're smoking.
True, but pigs will survive as a species even after the human race has abandoned eating natural meat. Cows won't. ________________________________________________
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Hellraiza666
Regeneration Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.06 01:16:00 -
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I dont get vegatarians, i mean, eating meat is natural and without it we would of died out ages ago.
Also because most of my fav foods are meat eg. Lamb chops, bacon, hot beef baps, duck, chicken and squirel tastes nice too although i didnt know what it was til after i had eaten it.
Also ds, whats wrong with eating dolphin? and monkeys are a delicacy in some places, they eat the brains out of the monkeys head in hongkong i think it was?
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Agnar Koladrov
Gallente Hurricane Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.06 01:32:00 -
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Firstly, what most non vergitarians don`t see is that with a lot of vegitarians vegitarianism has become more of way of life and not a consious day by day choice whether or not to eat meat/fish. Espacially so when you have become a vegitarian early in life, not eating meat has become the norm, just like for meat eaters eating meat is the norm.
Secondly, a lot of people that I know of that Are vergitarians, don`t eat meat because they feel sorry about the animal, but because of the way the bio-industry works in current society.
About the fish, lots of vegitarians are only half veggie, like me. But how would you go and name that? ________________________________________________
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Negative Nancy
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Posted - 2006.08.06 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Henrik Yssuts oh, i'm going to be on a fishing trip (great lakes area) and i want to know if anyone has any good campfire recipies for the local fish. oh, and i plan to be cooking with a cast-iron skillet, not that fish on a stick crap.
Bring some aluminum foil, olive oil, a bag of red potatoes, and some spices with you. Chop up the red potatoes and coat lightly with oil and choice of spices. Wrap in aluminum foil and place over fire. It usually takes me about 40+ minutes on the grill. Now the fish. Salmon I would just make a steak out of and fry it up. The trout on the other hand I would mix up a marinade with your oil and spices, maybe some tobasco sauce or teriyaki(sp?) sauce. Just let the trout sit in the skillet and soak up the marinade while the potatoes cook. After the potatoes are done take them off the fire, split the foil package open, and let them cool while you cook your trout, and I probably don't have to warn you that trout will cook really fast. -----------------------------------------
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Henrik Yssuts
Minmatar MegaScope Conglomerate Structure Engineers The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2006.08.06 01:47:00 -
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Edited by: Henrik Yssuts on 06/08/2006 01:53:46 Edited by: Henrik Yssuts on 06/08/2006 01:52:54
Originally by: Negative Nancy
Originally by: Henrik Yssuts oh, i'm going to be on a fishing trip (great lakes area) and i want to know if anyone has any good campfire recipies for the local fish. oh, and i plan to be cooking with a cast-iron skillet, not that fish on a stick crap.
Bring some aluminum foil, olive oil, a bag of red potatoes, and some spices with you. Chop up the red potatoes and coat lightly with oil and choice of spices. Wrap in aluminum foil and place over fire. It usually takes me about 40+ minutes on the grill. Now the fish. Salmon I would just make a steak out of and fry it up. The trout on the other hand I would mix up a marinade with your oil and spices, maybe some tobasco sauce or teriyaki(sp?) sauce. Just let the trout sit in the skillet and soak up the marinade while the potatoes cook. After the potatoes are done take them off the fire, split the foil package open, and let them cool while you cook your trout, and I probably don't have to warn you that trout will cook really fast.
mmm, sounds good. but Frank's > Tabasco IMO. hopefully we'll be able to catch some nice sized fishies, maybe make some blackened catfish... or a nice piece of seared salmon steak, with a lemon-horseradish sauce... it's too bad that we're not deep-water ocean fishing, because i <3 ahi & yellowfin. canned fish ftl.
anyways....
pescitarians. those are the ones who are veggies, but still eat fish. maybe they don't want to lose the enzymes in thier body that breaks down meat as a form of protien. i've known people who've eaten meat (and were vegetarians) and said they felt physically naseous, because they are incapable of breaking down those oh-so-delicious meaty protiens.
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nahtoh
Caldari Bull Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.06 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sparrling I believe most vegetarians that eat fish but not cattle (etc) are vegetarians because they believe the whole process of producing meat by raising cattle in a closed environment is wrong. With the moral barrier of believing that it is wrong to raise something that has nothing to life other than to be fed in a captive environment before being eaten, it becomes perfectly alright to eat fish since they live free as God (or whatever higher power or superstring that created them) intended them to do until their caught, killed and processed.
I think you are over complicating things there, "vegetarians" that eat fish are not vegetarians. or the simple act a fish is still a fecking animal...
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gizli
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Posted - 2006.08.06 02:58:00 -
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you shouldnt be watching icelandic tv xyl, lets go fishing!? <3 |

Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2006.08.06 03:07:00 -
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You shouldn't be allowed to eat something you couldn't kill yourself.
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Dak Hakin
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.08.06 03:45:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus You shouldn't be allowed to eat something you couldn't kill yourself.
Well, given time I could kill an elephant. Though I dont know if I would eat it. Might try it though, I'll try eating any creature once. _______________________________________________ I am the devil, and I'm here to do the devils work.
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xeom
Obsidian Sins
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Posted - 2006.08.06 03:52:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus You shouldn't be allowed to eat something you couldn't kill yourself.
Couldn't kill myself?
Using what my barefist? Sence the beggining man has always used simple tools.And ussualy worked together as a tribe to take down the larger more beefyer pray.Like the rest of the animals do.
I also don't get vegans.Do you think cows,pigs,or any other type of life stock could possibly survive in the wild the way it is nowadays(The wild that is left you just can't release em anywhere and f*** up the eco-system.Lets not mention the ammount of animals that get killed by combines.Of course those are insects and the like's and those really don't matter do they?
Just because you don't find a insect or other small animals as important as cow doesn't mean anything.I personaly find ant's far more intresting then any cow or pig.
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Luc Boye
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.06 05:01:00 -
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People should take survival course that military takes. Five days in woods, with no canned food, no spices, only a knife and a flint-stone (if ever that) as kit, and some rope.
In northern europe, the most secure source of carbohydrates are plant roots that taste like ****, but contain enough to make you live. You can't really live on berries, because they don't have much nutritional values (ok some vitamine C, but you get stomach acid). Humans have real issues with digesting most of the stuff that herbivores can eat.
The lack of food starts of as headache about 2nd day, then you get slow as hell, and really dumb. You can't focus, you can't think rationally, and you start chewing on anything remotely resembling food. Even if you have body fat, your organism can't burn that since it needs an energy-kicker to start burning fat, ie carbohydrates. So it starts burning muscles, so even if you are fat, you don't really get lean, but weak first (the reason starving isn't working as diet).
You feel like ****, you are tired all the time, your head hurts like hell, you can't think straight enough to build proper shelter, your feet are wet, your muscles are cramping all the time, and you stink.
Then you catch a 2kg salmon...
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.08.06 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: xeom
Originally by: Danton Marcellus You shouldn't be allowed to eat something you couldn't kill yourself.
Couldn't kill myself?
Using what my barefist? Sence the beggining man has always used simple tools.And ussualy worked together as a tribe to take down the larger more beefyer pray.Like the rest of the animals do.
I think he means from the squeamishness viewpoint. A hell of a lot of meat-eaters would faint and throw up before they got anywhere NEAR killing and preparing a pig. ________________________________________________
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HippoKing
Caldari The I-Win Button
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Posted - 2006.08.06 07:06:00 -
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^^ it would make the bacon sandwich less attractive, I'll give you that 
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Henrik Yssuts
Minmatar MegaScope Conglomerate Structure Engineers The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2006.08.06 07:12:00 -
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i'd kill a pig for a few slices of bacon
i once ate an entire meal of venison loin and baked potatoes whilst.... *this is may be a bit gruesome, so this is your warning*
the head and what remained of the spinal cord dangling on a cable not 5 feet from my face. for some reason, i got a laugh out of it. reminded me a bit of lord of the flies 
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Dralon
Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.08.06 08:23:00 -
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Kind of reminds me of hannibal, where they share out that guys brain. 
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Nira Li
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.06 10:44:00 -
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animal or vegetable I eat them all 
can't see what's wrong with killing animals, it's gr8 fun and they taste good.
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Corovus
Gallente THeOThErs Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.06 12:23:00 -
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Here's a question (I hope there are some nutritionists out there)...
How come we as a species have to eat a "balanced" diet, seemingly having to consist of fruit, vegetables, grain, meat, fibre etc etc? Most species do just fine eating the same thing, take lions for instance. They get a choice of gnu or zebra and they seem to do ok. Dolphins eat fish all day. Why have we evolved with such a needy dietary system?
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.08.06 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: Corovus Here's a question (I hope there are some nutritionists out there)...
How come we as a species have to eat a "balanced" diet, seemingly having to consist of fruit, vegetables, grain, meat, fibre etc etc? Most species do just fine eating the same thing, take lions for instance. They get a choice of gnu or zebra and they seem to do ok. Dolphins eat fish all day. Why have we evolved with such a needy dietary system?
Lions don't live long enough for heart disease to be a factor. They tend to get killed by other lions before they reach thirty. ________________________________________________
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FooB2
Caldari Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.08.06 15:41:00 -
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heres an idea. screw the veggies who dont eat meat because they dont like it, because this has an obvious answer to them
but for those that wont eat meat because it involves the innocent slaughter of the being the meat once belonged to, if we used todays ability to clone and grow working organs,(which are sufficent to replace human organs), would you eat it if we, say, cloned a pigs thigh? it isnt a part of a living being.
theres an idea. clone some bacon and have a bacon sandwich. it will be ready in 10 years.
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.06 15:53:00 -
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just look at it as the human survival instinkt, we need to eat by killing other animals not matter how grusome it is. That thought always seems ot get me to be okwith it.
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xeom
Obsidian Sins
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Posted - 2006.08.06 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: xeom
Originally by: Danton Marcellus You shouldn't be allowed to eat something you couldn't kill yourself.
Couldn't kill myself?
Using what my barefist? Sence the beggining man has always used simple tools.And ussualy worked together as a tribe to take down the larger more beefyer pray.Like the rest of the animals do.
I think he means from the squeamishness viewpoint. A hell of a lot of meat-eaters would faint and throw up before they got anywhere NEAR killing and preparing a pig.
As the days pass and theres nothing to eat things change.Also if you raise some one around the killing of animals they could probably eat while doing it.Then agian most people today havn't seen most of anything get slaughtered.
Having seen serveral animals killed and then eating them 2-3 hours later after properly being prepared(mmmm).I can tell the worst part is the screaming.Mabye its because i just hate loud screaming type noises in general,but its the part that ussualy gets to me.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari LoneStar Industries Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.06 17:36:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 06/08/2006 17:45:08
/me hates meat. Cant stand the smell of blood. Can smell them from a few feet away especially raw meat. Eeeewwww ... ---------------- Cruelty is God's way of showing kindness.
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Jon Engel
APEX Unlimited Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.06 17:51:00 -
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I try to stay away from mass produced dairy products. The way they treat the animals is horrid and makes me cringe. I dont eat viel either.
BTW, Cows produce milk for one purpous and one purpous only, to feed there young. If I eat cheese, or drink milk or use dairy products, I like to know it came from a local place where they didnt keep them in a 3 foot cell and pumped full of steroids and estrogen.
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BenYGW
Caldari Syncore Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.06 18:36:00 -
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to the guy going camping: has to be fried tomatoes with the fish
vegitarians that dont eat meat as a moral decision but then eat fish are plain stupid.
i couldn't kill a pig (if i didnt need to), and wouldnt feel very hungry after watching one be processed  but i still love bacon "you shouldnt eat what you wouldnt kill" i disagree with. (meat is too good not to eat) people should atleast know that it involves the death of an animal tho (people are getting stupid)
buy free range / dolphin friendly etc etc
xyliana.... why were you watching a fishing program?
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Nira Li
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.06 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: BenYGW
people should atleast know that it involves the death of an animal tho (people are getting stupid)
Seriously?! 
Taking meat from the animal without not killing it would be a bit harsh 
Ppl can be vegeterian if they want I could care less, even some vegeterian food is awsome. But animal activist and vegeterians that can't accept that some ppl want to eat meat tics me off.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2006.08.07 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 06/08/2006 17:45:08
/me hates meat. Cant stand the smell of blood. Can smell them from a few feet away especially raw meat. Eeeewwww ...
Someone will binge on raw minced meat when pregnant. 
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Lorth
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.07 00:57:00 -
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Vegetable's are the food my food eats.
BTW. Has anyone actually thought about the ways that animals typically die in the wild? And has anyone actually seen it happen, or see the aftermath? I have, and its far and away more ugly then any methode of slaughter we have.
Some times I think we impose to much of our own morals onto the animal kingdom then is right.
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Scoundrelus
The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.07 02:00:00 -
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Being a vegetarian doesn't neccesarily mean that you care about the animals. I don't eat meat, chicken or seafood because my stomach doesn't possess the enzymes to digest it and the last time I ate meat I was rushed to the hospital and almost died because it got stuck in my intestine and my intestine got inflated. ===============================================
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Kaz
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.07 02:42:00 -
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What i understand less are vegans, they are strict to the point of not letting anything pass their lips that has been made from an animal by-product (gelatin capsules in medicine) to not even allowing anything that has harmlessly come out of a living creature (like milk).
What i'd like answering in that case, is do vegans spit or do they swallow? 
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Luc Boye
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.07 03:12:00 -
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If some animal dies, maggots eat it, maggot crap fertilizes a plant, then a vegan eats the plant, how come they are considering themselves not included in the whole chain? -------------------------- MWD Cap Penalty? |
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