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DJ Xyliana
Eve Radio Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.05 16:57:00 -
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Okay this section is off topic, so boy is this going to be off topic. Was watching a icelandic fishing show last night and they were gutting fish. Now I don't know if I have been living under a rock but I didnt know how gross that processes was, blood all over. I mean I know so many veggies that eat fish and the whole fish dont have feelings.. man it was like a horror movie scene on a boat, and they are still alive when they are doing it.. 
Anyway I am not vegetarian or anything but *******s to that whole fish dont have feeling things I will never look at a can of tuna the same way again. ------------- http://www.eve-radio.com
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Cairo dog
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.05 17:00:00 -
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Edited by: Cairo dog on 05/08/2006 17:00:25 People that say they're vegetarians and eat fish aren't vegetarians. They're just people that don't eat meat. -------------------------------------
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knifee
Caldari Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.08.05 17:13:00 -
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the last time i was in Iceland i went fishing with some friends. Seeing the just caught fish gutted on the side of the lake was a bit of an eye opener... still, that fish tasted so good!
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Benco97
Gallente On Ravens Wings
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Posted - 2006.08.05 17:13:00 -
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I think I saw that too... was it the one with the stupid kid who went fishing with them to make money but gets sea-sick and doesn't like fish? o.O
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HippoKing
Caldari The I-Win Button
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Posted - 2006.08.05 17:15:00 -
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It's OK to eat fish. They aren't human enough for most vegitarians to give a **** about. Take a pig for example: not the pleasantest of mammals, but they are still warm blooded, and show obvious signs of feeling. Obviously evil to eat one of those. Fish, on the other hand, are cold blooded, scaly, and difficult to empathise with. Those bastards had it coming to them 
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Isodoros
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Posted - 2006.08.05 17:19:00 -
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o.O This was a supprice to you? I don't want to be mean or downputting. But eating fish / meat have a price. It's not grown in supermarkets. Might sound a bit cold and uncaring. But it's none the less the truth. :/
What their doing though is usually cutting the blood going to the head. And it doesn't take long for the fish to die. Only a couple of seconds.
But what upsets me though, is the smell. I come from a very small fishing community. And the smell of old or new fish can be quite bad..
I guess thats why I don't eat fish.. Bad experiances whit it. But I got nothing against how they prosess it.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari LoneStar Industries Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.05 17:25:00 -
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Must be the taste of protoplasm. ---------------- Cruelty is God's way of showing kindness.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.05 17:55:00 -
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Its not as if fish have highly developed brains.
I mean, if they were gutting monkeys or dolphins, I'd care.
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.08.05 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing It's OK to eat fish. They aren't human enough for most vegitarians to give a **** about. Take a pig for example: not the pleasantest of mammals, but they are still warm blooded, and show obvious signs of feeling. Obviously evil to eat one of those. Fish, on the other hand, are cold blooded, scaly, and difficult to empathise with. Those bastards had it coming to them 
On a related note: how many times have you known a public outcry about the mass killing of flies and beetles? But make it a googly-eyed furry seal, and see what happens. ________________________________________________
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Dak Hakin
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.08.05 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Its not as if fish have highly developed brains.
I mean, if they were gutting monkeys or dolphins, I'd care.
Monkeys make a lot of noise when you gut them alive.
Interesting sidenote on the subject of monkeys... I was watching a show on Discovery channel once about gorillas, and as it turns out, they are not strictly vegetarians. They went hunting, found a tree full of some small monkey, cant remember what kind, but they went to town on them. _______________________________________________ I am the devil, and I'm here to do the devils work.
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Ralus
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.05 18:52:00 -
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More and more commonly in modern western society people are starting to anthropomorphize animals to the extent that we are no longer viewing animals as food, as well as being detrimental to our health and the natural environment it stops people knowing and understanding how food is produced.
Look at a cow for example. People need to know that a cow is food, it serves its purpose by either producing more cows, producing milk, or being slaughtered and producing beef. It is not daisy the cow, it does not think like a human and it does not suffer from the same broad spectrum of emotions that we do. During its life the cow will be kept comfortable because as will all large animals it feels pain, and if it is happy it will be more efficient in its purpose of breeding, producing milk, or fattening up for beef, and when it is slaughtered it will be done so quickly and painlessly.
People who would be upset by this process should ask themselves why? Another cow would not be upset by the death of a heard member, its how things naturally are in the wild and in a farmed environment.
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El Berto
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.05 19:01:00 -
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Edited by: El Berto on 05/08/2006 19:01:04 As a veggie of 20years I feel I can say with some authority that vegetarians who eat fish are the same as technical virgins, they define themself out of existence with logical contradictions.
Knowledge of where your lunch comes from is usually the quickest way to loose it. But to quote;
Originally by: "Mr Spock" In the strict scientific sense we all feed on death - even vegetarians.
El.
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Henrik Yssuts
Minmatar MegaScope Conglomerate Structure Engineers The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2006.08.05 19:55:00 -
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Edited by: Henrik Yssuts on 05/08/2006 19:57:17
Originally by: HippoKing It's OK to eat fish. They aren't human enough for most vegitarians to give a **** about. Take a pig for example: not the pleasantest of mammals, but they are still warm blooded, and show obvious signs of feeling. Obviously evil to eat one of those. Fish, on the other hand, are cold blooded, scaly, and difficult to empathise with. Those bastards had it coming to them 
so, by that logic, it would be OK to eat reptiles?
well, back to the fish thing; yes, it can be a tad bit messy cleaning the fish. but what about all the animals that eat fish? they can be just as.... graphically violent to the fish, if not more than that. you just can't turn a carnivore like that. but if someone tried, it would be a very unhealthy creature, or eat that person.
oh, i'm going to be on a fishing trip (great lakes area) and i want to know if anyone has any good campfire recipies for the local fish. oh, and i plan to be cooking with a cast-iron skillet, not that fish on a stick crap.
Originally by: Dak Hakin
Originally by: Dark Shikari Its not as if fish have highly developed brains.
I mean, if they were gutting monkeys or dolphins, I'd care.
Monkeys make a lot of noise when you gut them alive.
Interesting sidenote on the subject of monkeys... I was watching a show on Discovery channel once about gorillas, and as it turns out, they are not strictly vegetarians. They went hunting, found a tree full of some small monkey, cant remember what kind, but they went to town on them.
thats chimpanzees. i saw the same video. it totally changed my ideas of the progeniters of our species.
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HippoKing
Caldari The I-Win Button
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Henrik Yssuts
Originally by: HippoKing It's OK to eat fish. They aren't human enough for most vegitarians to give a **** about. Take a pig for example: not the pleasantest of mammals, but they are still warm blooded, and show obvious signs of feeling. Obviously evil to eat one of those. Fish, on the other hand, are cold blooded, scaly, and difficult to empathise with. Those bastards had it coming to them 
so, by that logic, it would be OK to eat reptiles?
Well, I've never seen a vegetarian who eats fish refuse to eat a reptile. Have you?
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Dralon
Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:20:00 -
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After spending two weeks scuba diving the idea of eating fish is wierd. I mean theres the whole fish don't have feelings thing, but I deny that after seeing how smart some fish actually are. And nemo fish are so cute 
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Henrik Yssuts
Minmatar MegaScope Conglomerate Structure Engineers The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Henrik Yssuts
Originally by: HippoKing It's OK to eat fish. They aren't human enough for most vegitarians to give a **** about. Take a pig for example: not the pleasantest of mammals, but they are still warm blooded, and show obvious signs of feeling. Obviously evil to eat one of those. Fish, on the other hand, are cold blooded, scaly, and difficult to empathise with. Those bastards had it coming to them 
so, by that logic, it would be OK to eat reptiles?
Well, I've never seen a vegetarian who eats fish refuse to eat a reptile. Have you?
Not yet, I haven't.... 
i think i'll go find out. 
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari LoneStar Industries Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:29:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/08/2006 20:33:58
Originally by: Dralon After spending two weeks scuba diving the idea of eating fish is wierd. I mean theres the whole fish don't have feelings thing, but I deny that after seeing how smart some fish actually are. And nemo fish are so cute 
It is about perception. A long time ago, cannibals eat people but why do they do it? What isnt accepted by a group of ppl doesnt mean it isnt accepted by a different group of ppl. May be when one day in the far future, majority of the human race will outlaw eating organisms and we resort to drink purified water and synthetic proteins. ---------------- Cruelty is God's way of showing kindness.
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Dralon
Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:39:00 -
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Nah we'll probably go back to eating each other Fish tastes gross to me anyway 
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HippoKing
Caldari The I-Win Button
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Posted - 2006.08.05 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/08/2006 20:33:58
Originally by: Dralon After spending two weeks scuba diving the idea of eating fish is wierd. I mean theres the whole fish don't have feelings thing, but I deny that after seeing how smart some fish actually are. And nemo fish are so cute 
It is about perception. A long time ago, cannibals eat people but why do they do it? What isnt accepted by a group of ppl doesnt mean it isnt accepted by a different group of ppl. May be when one day in the far future, majority of the human race will outlaw eating organisms and we resort to drink purified water and synthetic proteins.
can you get synthetic bacon sandwiches? Without that, it would never catch on.
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Imperial Coercion
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Posted - 2006.08.05 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: DJ Xyliana Was watching a icelandic fishing show
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.08.05 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing May be when one day in the far future, majority of the human race will outlaw eating organisms and we resort to drink purified water and synthetic proteins.
can you get synthetic bacon sandwiches? Without that, it would never catch on.
She did say the FAR future. Of course, once this is achieved and nobody eats cows any more, the cow will become extinct; it has no hope of surviving in the wild.
Save the cows! Eat more beef! ________________________________________________
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El Berto
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.05 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/08/2006 20:33:58
Originally by: Dralon After spending two weeks scuba diving the idea of eating fish is wierd. I mean theres the whole fish don't have feelings thing, but I deny that after seeing how smart some fish actually are. And nemo fish are so cute 
It is about perception. A long time ago, cannibals eat people but why do they do it? What isnt accepted by a group of ppl doesnt mean it isnt accepted by a different group of ppl. May be when one day in the far future, majority of the human race will outlaw eating organisms and we resort to drink purified water and synthetic proteins.
can you get synthetic bacon sandwiches? Without that, it would never catch on.
Yes you can HK... but it sucks balls. Tastes like smokey bacon crisps (no bacon in there just the same crappy additives).
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Dak Hakin
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.08.05 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Henrik Yssuts Edited by: Henrik Yssuts on 05/08/2006 19:57:17
Originally by: HippoKing It's OK to eat fish. They aren't human enough for most vegitarians to give a **** about. Take a pig for example: not the pleasantest of mammals, but they are still warm blooded, and show obvious signs of feeling. Obviously evil to eat one of those. Fish, on the other hand, are cold blooded, scaly, and difficult to empathise with. Those bastards had it coming to them 
so, by that logic, it would be OK to eat reptiles?
well, back to the fish thing; yes, it can be a tad bit messy cleaning the fish. but what about all the animals that eat fish? they can be just as.... graphically violent to the fish, if not more than that. you just can't turn a carnivore like that. but if someone tried, it would be a very unhealthy creature, or eat that person.
oh, i'm going to be on a fishing trip (great lakes area) and i want to know if anyone has any good campfire recipies for the local fish. oh, and i plan to be cooking with a cast-iron skillet, not that fish on a stick crap.
Originally by: Dak Hakin
Originally by: Dark Shikari Its not as if fish have highly developed brains.
I mean, if they were gutting monkeys or dolphins, I'd care.
Monkeys make a lot of noise when you gut them alive.
Interesting sidenote on the subject of monkeys... I was watching a show on Discovery channel once about gorillas, and as it turns out, they are not strictly vegetarians. They went hunting, found a tree full of some small monkey, cant remember what kind, but they went to town on them.
thats chimpanzees. i saw the same video. it totally changed my ideas of the progeniters of our species.
Campfire fish recipes... Well, I dont know what you will be fishing for, but when I used to go camping, I always liked to catch a catfish, gut and skin him (catfish dont have scales for those that dont know), place the meat on a sheet of aluminum foil, crumble saltine *****ers around the fish, salt and pepper to taste, wrap it up in the foil really good, and place it in the coals of the fire. Damn good fish that way. _______________________________________________ I am the devil, and I'm here to do the devils work.
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Imaran
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2006.08.05 23:09:00 -
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I like steak pie 
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Sparrling
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Posted - 2006.08.05 23:12:00 -
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I believe most vegetarians that eat fish but not cattle (etc) are vegetarians because they believe the whole process of producing meat by raising cattle in a closed environment is wrong. With the moral barrier of believing that it is wrong to raise something that has nothing to life other than to be fed in a captive environment before being eaten, it becomes perfectly alright to eat fish since they live free as God (or whatever higher power or superstring that created them) intended them to do until their caught, killed and processed.
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DJ Xyliana
Eve Radio Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.05 23:19:00 -
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tbh fish farming is a bit weird aswell -------------
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Yendri
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Posted - 2006.08.05 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Ralus More and more commonly in modern western society people are starting to anthropomorphize animals to the extent that we are no longer viewing animals as food
The solution? Eat Furries.
actually on second thoughts, probably best not to. you never know where they've been....
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DJ Xyliana
Eve Radio Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.05 23:44:00 -
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Furries... you mean those ppl that dress up like animals and umm -------------
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Kyozoku
Loot
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Posted - 2006.08.06 00:04:00 -
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Edited by: Kyozoku on 06/08/2006 00:03:43
Originally by: Imaran
I like steak and ale pie 
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Henrik Yssuts
Minmatar MegaScope Conglomerate Structure Engineers The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2006.08.06 00:07:00 -
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Edited by: Henrik Yssuts on 06/08/2006 00:09:27
Originally by: DJ Xyliana tbh fish farming is a bit weird aswell
that's why farm fish doesn't taste as good.
bacon doesn't come from cows, but from pigs. i don't know what bizarro form of bacon you're smoking.
if you think of tofu bacon as synthetic, then we already have it.
there are still some tribes in africa and south america (as well as a few other areas) that are still cannibalistic.
furries are waay too creepy to eat. i'd rather starve. 
edit: i'll most likely be cooking trout. possibly salmon, if the runs have already started (i've done the foil pouch method, but with a salmon fillet, no c rackers, with just butter and s&p)
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