I dont even remember the last CCP or ISD sighting in the help channel.

So players should make their own channels and moderate them themselves. Advertise the channel in the respective forums and get a big player run channel going?

For example, someone stated 300-500 German players in one German chat channel, just band all of them together in another player made channel?

Or am I missing something painfully obvious here

With most of these languages having no official support from CCP, this means that investigating and answering tickets of this nature from these channels is sometimes not possible due to a significant language barrier. This is contrary to our policy of moderating and enforcing our terms of service (in particular the sections on player conduct) in persistent CCP hosted channels within the EVE client.

You may not use any abusive, defamatory, ethnically or racially offensive, harassing, harmful, hateful, obscene, offensive, sexually explicit, threatening or vulgar language. (Alternate spelling or partial masking of such words will be reprimanded in the same manner as the actual use of such words.)

Do you know what's going to be funny with this change?

99% of the victims will not know until it happens, because if they spoke enough English to read the warning, maybe they would not be using the non-supported language channels.

so has anyone bothered to post this information in their respective languages in their channels to get more responses? 10 pages seems a little low for what seems to be a hot button issue. CCP wont listen unless its 50 pages by monday morning with complaints.

How come you moderate this forum post more than the chat channels ?

Just asking.

If you create a chatchannel and someone insults you ...
... and you - instead of blocking, muting and/or kicking him - write a petition instead ...
... then I have to question your mental state.

You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player or authorized representative of CCP, including customer service personnel and volunteers. This includes, but is not limited to: filing support tickets with false information in an attempt to gain from it or have someone else suffer from it; sending excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or support tickets; obstructing CCP Employees from doing their jobs; refusal to follow the instructions of a CCP Employee; or implying favoritism by a CCP Employee.

(added this as it also matches the topic:)
You may not use any abusive, defamatory, ethnically or racially offensive, harassing, harmful, hateful, obscene, offensive, sexually explicit, threatening or vulgar language. (Alternate spelling or partial masking of such words will be reprimanded in the same manner as the actual use of such words.)

Chat channel consolidation and renaming.

Buh Bye :)

Caroline Grace sent me over here.

All caught up and yeah, I am gonna go ask some questions.

A LOT of your suggestions seem reasonable. From the simple redirects before it closes down to not closing it down at all but modifying the MOTD

If I get news, have news I am allowed to tell you I will be back.

btw, I liked the basque quote, even if I did have to use google translate.

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There's a big red cross outside Jita 4/4 to mark the occasion - RIP language channels
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"Espa+¦ol" population on Sep. 29th: 109
New "Spanish" population on September 30: 15
New "Casinos y furcias" population: 16
CONCORD population: 2
Noobs in all channels: zero

Language channels succesfully consolidated into a wasteland.

A lot more? What would that be?
Did I miss anything?

We can do much more, if we keep sticking together ...
... independent of the issue. Want to join in?

people are slowly trying to drain people away to their channel

Wasn't it obvious for you that this will happen?
No offense intended, but this was completely predictable.

I'm wondering about what you are thinking in these regards.

Did you think you would own the only "legitimate" german channels?

Ewww dojos ... that's weak.
And the idea of being teleported somewhere is totally un-eve.


Anyhow ... I would suggest doing proper meta wars,
because it's pointless to do this ingame.


How do you make people aware of your channel?

So you basically don't actually try to advertise it at all?

Okay, so no advertising.

Sorry to tell you, but "passive advertising" does not exist and when you write this,
you make me want to yell at you for being a clueless noob.

You're not advertising at all. Don't come at me with "that's your opinion",
because it's not. It's a fact of the matter. What you're describing that you're doing
isn't really advertising. You mention it. Woohoo. Calling that advertising is an insult to my brain.


Mate, if you wanna go to war ... you have to fight too.

There is no chance to get any reply with answers from CCP.

This is what @erlendur aka CCP Explorer twitted to chinese player and to me

http://i.imgur.com/t2hBK2k.png

What does that mean?

We changed things.
You can go home.
- F <3

[b]EDIT: Ok...I noticed the channel still exists by writing the exact name of it...but does this now mean that some snotnose punk owns the channel?

I want to report Suomi V2 channel. It is full of ancient amarr speaking pirates. They insult dark skinned minmatars, russian speaking heretics and they intend to invade the colony called Ukraine. There they plan to build "ovens" and produce "fertilizers"

Why so much hassle for this channel thing? If you care as part of the community and never really had CCP interacting with the channel stuff why not keep doing the same stuff you did over the years? The "not officially supported" stamp sounds more like a law thing reasoning. For me personally it was always the best option to join an English community/channel/forum because the people that speak my native language (German) are not able to proper spell and type any more and since I am pretty much in love with my native language I rather use English in the internet than trying to understand the crippled sentences that most native speakers use. On top of that, I don-¦t like to limit me to my native language and therefore missing out on a lot of other people. Last but not least and this might sound a bit harsh, if you don-¦t speak basic English why are you playing online games? I understand that some eastern European countries are more orientated towards Russian and Russians of course too but so far I met a lot of Russians that speak good English.

tl:dr: do it yourself and keep the channels up

And regarding these so called "Help Channels" if CCP doesn-¦t have the manpower to maintain good service or service at all better shut them down because no service is way better than bad service. If I expect to have a moderated and working channel and get a pile of "insert sth unpolite" I am pretty disappointed at the very least. When I don-¦t see a channel this won-¦t happen and from what I experienced so far the community should have no problem to overtake the "Help Channel" duty. I mean there are entities in EvE that are existing to help new people out, to help everyone that needs help in this or that area and of course people that feast on those who seek help. So again, I don-¦t see any reasoning for official "Help Channels" if they can-¦t provide the service one expects from them. If some GMs from these countries volunteer to overtake channel moderation for some semi-official help channels CCP might consider that option but keeping these channels up while not be able to maintain the needed service/moderation is simply a bad move.