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Jinangel
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Posted - 2006.08.07 04:44:00 -
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A few questions, if a kind soul could answer them for me.
#1: The "Drone Control Unit 1" requires 7500 CPU to use. No ship has that. I presume that its meant for a carrier, which gets a 99% reduction in CPU needs for warfare link modules...but it doesn't say anything about being a warfare link module. Is it?
#2: The "Drone Navigation Computer I" increases MWD speed of drones. What drones have MWD? All of them? Just small and medium? Do fighter drones (carrier drones)?
#3: The "Omnidirectional Tracking Link I" increases drone max range by 1.2, and tracking speed by 1.2%. Is that latter supposed to be 120% As in, a 20% increase? If it isn't....I should think that module sucks. :(
#4: Drone skills; I've heard mixed things. Do the "generic skills" apply to all drones, including a carrier's fighter drones? IE, Drone Durability - does it apply to fighter drones? Does Drone Interfacing apply to fighter drones? Drone Navigation? Drone Sharpshooting?
I hope someone will take the time to answer these thoughtfully. I'll reward you in game! =)
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L33t Sphere
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Posted - 2006.08.07 04:48:00 -
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Edited by: L33t Sphere on 07/08/2006 04:54:25
Edited by: L33t Sphere on 07/08/2006 04:53:49
Edited by: L33t Sphere on 07/08/2006 04:52:44
All drones have MWD, if you notice they go fast then slow down.
Yes, 120%. It means that it multiplies it by 1.2.
Yes, every drone skill applies to applicable drones.(no, mining doesn't work for a combat drone). Fighters aren't drones.(One more edit...they don't count rather)
DCU1s fit on Carriers. They're considered warfare modules apparently. The only reason you can't fit one on a BC is that it takes so much powergrid.
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Aeaea
XanoTech
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Posted - 2006.08.07 04:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Jinangel
A few questions, if a kind soul could answer them for me.
#1: The "Drone Control Unit 1" requires 7500 CPU to use. No ship has that. I presume that its meant for a carrier, which gets a 99% reduction in CPU needs for warfare link modules...but it doesn't say anything about being a warfare link module. Is it?
Carrier does get it as a hidden bonus though.
#2: The "Drone Navigation Computer I" increases MWD speed of drones. What drones have MWD? All of them? Just small and medium? Do fighter drones (carrier drones)?
All do, MWD means their traveling speed. You will see more of an impact on smaller drones due to their lower base mass.
#3: The "Omnidirectional Tracking Link I" increases drone max range by 1.2, and tracking speed by 1.2%. Is that latter supposed to be 120% As in, a 20% increase? If it isn't....I should think that module sucks. :(
Not a bonus, a multiplier, same effect as a 20% bonus however.
#4: Drone skills; I've heard mixed things. Do the "generic skills" apply to all drones, including a carrier's fighter drones? IE, Drone Durability - does it apply to fighter drones? Does Drone Interfacing apply to fighter drones? Drone Navigation? Drone Sharpshooting?
Fighters is the only skill that applies to Fighters. Fighters can also be influenced by some carrier bonuses
I hope someone will take the time to answer these thoughtfully. I'll reward you in game! =)
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Jinangel
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Posted - 2006.08.07 04:54:00 -
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Aeaea:
So none of the generic drone skills apply to fighter drones for carriers? L5 Drone Durability doesn't give 25% more HP to fighter drones?
L5 Drone Navigation - 25% bonus to drone speed doesn't apply to figher drones?
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Aeaus
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.07 04:58:00 -
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Originally by: Jinangel
Aeaea:
So none of the generic drone skills apply to fighter drones for carriers? L5 Drone Durability doesn't give 25% more HP to fighter drones?
L5 Drone Navigation - 25% bonus to drone speed doesn't apply to figher drones?
Now with the Correct Character(TM)
Correct, while Fighters fall under drones they do not function like other drones. Fighters are only effected by the Fighters Skill and the Gallente Carrier skill if you're flying a Thanatos or Nyx.
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L33t Sphere
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Posted - 2006.08.07 04:58:00 -
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Sadly no. It should IMO, what a waste of sp...
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Nybbas
A Place for Valen
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Posted - 2006.08.07 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: Aeaus
Originally by: Jinangel
Aeaea:
So none of the generic drone skills apply to fighter drones for carriers? L5 Drone Durability doesn't give 25% more HP to fighter drones?
L5 Drone Navigation - 25% bonus to drone speed doesn't apply to figher drones?
Now with the Correct Character(TM)
Correct, while Fighters fall under drones they do not function like other drones. Fighters are only effected by the Fighters Skill and the Gallente Carrier skill if you're flying a Thanatos or Nyx.
this imo is ridiculous. You train all these drone skills to use the ultimate drone ship, and then none of the other skills you have bothered to train effect it... except drones 5. If they are afraid of drones int 5 boosting damage on fighters by too much, make the fighters skill only give 5% damage per level and keep the drone int bonus in there... would allow for a 25% boost of fighters dps (which wouldnt be bad for them anyways) plus the durability and speed skills would be really good for fighters anyways :/
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ELECTR0FREAK
Eye of God
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Posted - 2006.08.07 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: Nybbas
Originally by: Aeaus
Originally by: Jinangel
Aeaea:
So none of the generic drone skills apply to fighter drones for carriers? L5 Drone Durability doesn't give 25% more HP to fighter drones?
L5 Drone Navigation - 25% bonus to drone speed doesn't apply to figher drones?
Now with the Correct Character(TM)
Correct, while Fighters fall under drones they do not function like other drones. Fighters are only effected by the Fighters Skill and the Gallente Carrier skill if you're flying a Thanatos or Nyx.
this imo is ridiculous. You train all these drone skills to use the ultimate drone ship, and then none of the other skills you have bothered to train effect it... except drones 5. If they are afraid of drones int 5 boosting damage on fighters by too much, make the fighters skill only give 5% damage per level and keep the drone int bonus in there... would allow for a 25% boost of fighters dps (which wouldnt be bad for them anyways) plus the durability and speed skills would be really good for fighters anyways :/
Few people realize, I think, that Carriers aren't for fighters only. Very often it's smarter to dock your fighters and kill the target the old fashioned way. As long as the target is warp-scrambled, you usually don't NEED fighters to kill it. 9 to 13 Heavy Drone IIs (depending upon if you have DCUs) will make short work of any BS. Also I find myself frequently using logistics and ECM drones with my Carrier.
For example: if you ever are in a Carrier and you run into a hostile Dread, your TP-900 drones in your drone bay will very suddenly become your best friends.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.07 09:51:00 -
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1. i think it isn't mentioned but it fits on carrier okish
2. also to heavys, doesn't work on fighters. Also even if it would work, it would be pretty much useless thing. Fighters are fast when they are going to engage something and they don't mwd back to your ship...
3. for range, it gets 20% bonus (tested), for tracking it is hard to test, but since description is same, i guess it should be so. This module is best used with sentry drones, but most people will just stick more jammers on their domi/ishtar.
4.none of drone skills apply to fighters(navigation, durability, interfacing... ), only basic "drones" skill (so you can control 6 fighters with carrier lvl1).
Only drone skills that affect fighters are: fighters, carrier(more fighters, also dmg in case of gallente carrier/ms), adv. drone interfacing (so you can stick more drone control units on carrier and have more) and as said above, basic drone skill.
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.08.07 09:59:00 -
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Fightrs != Drones
so its not a waste of Sp
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Lord Timelord
Gallente
Orion's Forge
Galaxia Union
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Posted - 2006.08.07 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK
Few people realize, I think, that Carriers aren't for fighters only. Very often it's smarter to dock your fighters and kill the target the old fashioned way. As long as the target is warp-scrambled, you usually don't NEED fighters to kill it. 9 to 13 Heavy Drone IIs (depending upon if you have DCUs) will make short work of any BS. Also I find myself frequently using logistics and ECM drones with my Carrier.
For example: if you ever are in a Carrier and you run into a hostile Dread, your TP-900 drones in your drone bay will very suddenly become your best friends.
The OP should listen to Electrofreak. He knows what he's talking about. 
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Ace Garp1
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.07 14:21:00 -
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hi
i have a newb questions about drones and thought this might be a good forum to ask in
I notice there are skills for racial drones
but the drones don't say "caldari" drone when i go to use them
so are these "racial" drone skills infact for the fighters?
sorry in advance if this is the case but i am a little confused about it 
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Laocoon
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.08.07 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ace Garp1
hi
i have a newb questions about drones and thought this might be a good forum to ask in
I notice there are skills for racial drones
but the drones don't say "caldari" drone when i go to use them
so are these "racial" drone skills infact for the fighters?
sorry in advance if this is the case but i am a little confused about it
if you check the T2 drones, theyall require one of the racial spec skills at some level. It's like the T2 turret specs; the skill is only needed fro, and only applies to, tech 2 drones.
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Ace Garp1
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.07 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Laocoon
Originally by: Ace Garp1
hi
i have a newb questions about drones and thought this might be a good forum to ask in
I notice there are skills for racial drones
but the drones don't say "caldari" drone when i go to use them
so are these "racial" drone skills infact for the fighters?
sorry in advance if this is the case but i am a little confused about it
if you check the T2 drones, theyall require one of the racial spec skills at some level. It's like the T2 turret specs; the skill is only needed fro, and only applies to, tech 2 drones.
so if i wanted to get tech2 drones i would have to skill up then
cheers for the prompt response
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Guillame Herschel
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Posted - 2006.08.07 19:38:00 -
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Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 07/08/2006 19:38:51
Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK
For example: if you ever are in a Carrier and you run into a hostile Dread, your TP-900 drones in your drone bay will very suddenly become your best friends.
I am trying to think of a situation in which a lone carrier could meet and fight a lone dreadnought, and unfortunately, I cannot come up with one.
Can you help me out?
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Saria Mysdrial
Amarr
Research Associates
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Posted - 2006.08.08 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: Guillame Herschel
Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 07/08/2006 19:38:51
Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK
For example: if you ever are in a Carrier and you run into a hostile Dread, your TP-900 drones in your drone bay will very suddenly become your best friends.
I am trying to think of a situation in which a lone carrier could meet and fight a lone dreadnought, and unfortunately, I cannot come up with one.
Can you help me out?
Sometime, when a Carrier and a Dreadnought really love each other, they go off together, and have little fighters together....
But sometimes, they end up fighting about who has the bigger drone bay. :(
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Ehker Gerete
HelpCorp United
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Posted - 2006.08.08 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Guillame Herschel
Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 07/08/2006 19:38:51
Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK
For example: if you ever are in a Carrier and you run into a hostile Dread, your TP-900 drones in your drone bay will very suddenly become your best friends.
I am trying to think of a situation in which a lone carrier could meet and fight a lone dreadnought, and unfortunately, I cannot come up with one.
Can you help me out?
I'm confused as to how target painting a dread is gonna help a carrier...
Dread Signature Radius: 925m-1000m (iirc)
Fighter Signature Resolution: 125m
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Doc Nebula
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Posted - 2006.08.08 06:12:00 -
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I have one further question:
- How do I get more than 5 drones deployed at once? The only way I can see to increase drones is through the Drones skill (lvl 5 = 5 drones); and the DCU's, which I can only fit on a carrier?
What am I missing? I see people talking about having 12-15 drones out fighting and I can't figure out how.
Any assistance is much appreciated.
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Aeaus
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.08 06:14:00 -
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Originally by: Doc Nebula
I have one further question:
- How do I get more than 5 drones deployed at once? The only way I can see to increase drones is through the Drones skill (lvl 5 = 5 drones); and the DCU's, which I can only fit on a carrier?
What am I missing? I see people talking about having 12-15 drones out fighting and I can't figure out how.
Any assistance is much appreciated.
Doc
Long ago you could launch up to 10 drones from a regular ship, this was changes to have drone interfacing give a 20% bonus instead of +1 drone / lvl
Carriers have drone (+1) bonus per level. Motherships have drone (+3) bonus per level. Carriers and Motherships can also fit up to five drone control units, giving an additional five drones.
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Doc Nebula
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Posted - 2006.08.08 06:23:00 -
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Thanks Aeaus. Damn!!, but thanks.
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ELECTR0FREAK
Eye of God
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Posted - 2006.08.08 08:43:00 -
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Edited by: ELECTR0FREAK on 08/08/2006 08:44:09
Originally by: Ehker Gerete
Originally by: Guillame Herschel
Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 07/08/2006 19:38:51
Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK
For example: if you ever are in a Carrier and you run into a hostile Dread, your TP-900 drones in your drone bay will very suddenly become your best friends.
I am trying to think of a situation in which a lone carrier could meet and fight a lone dreadnought, and unfortunately, I cannot come up with one.
Can you help me out?
I'm confused as to how target painting a dread is gonna help a carrier...
Dread Signature Radius: 925m-1000m (iirc)
Fighter Signature Resolution: 125m
Yeah, sorry about that, I typoed, meant to type TD for Tracking Disruptor drones. A couple of those will ruin any Dreadnaught's day if he's trying to shoot your Carrier.
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