This is the more legitimate thread about the topic at hand.

Based on the current meta and risk vs reward, highsec is already the worst place to be and given that ccp loves to keep risk vs reward progressive as you go toward -1.0 then that would mean everything would get the same treatment so in effect it will change nothing.On top of that the current meta makes it where you are a whipping boy for some collition if you want to be out there.So most people just don't go out there on that reason alone.

Who is this Ripard Teg guy?
Can someone give me a TLDR?

Its only fair that both sides have their own thread.

Viola!

To start out:

• Buff rats in belts. Give them web/scram/smartbombs. The longer someone sits in a belt, the stronger class of rat spawns in.
• NPC corps of opposing factions are at war by default, mirroring FW.
• Remove local. If you want to see local, youll need to be in a corp, and the corp will pay a tax to connect to the local intel.
• Once wardecced, you do not have the ablity to leave corp at all. The button is grayed out. The only way out is to surrender or win. If the defender (and allies) beats the aggressor after 1 week (isk war), the aggressor is unable to declare war for two weeks after that.
• Move ALL level 4 missions to lowsec, and increase the payouts.
• Remove highsec incursions, or dramatically decrease the payouts. There is no risk for the current meta.
• Ships in NPC corps must pay docking fees each time they dock up.
• NPC players cant undock in anything larger than a cruiser hull.
• If you are operating in a lower-sec part of highsec, you get pirate FACPO-style response if you have a super-positive sec status.
• Killing a -5 or below in highsec adds "tags" to their wreck, purchasable by NPC's at CONCORD stations (similar to WH loot). Does not spawn if CONCORD is on the KM. The more badass the pirate, the more ISK his tags are worth.
• Miners whom deplete a belt are fined, and assessed a sec status hit.

Edit: Allow players to JOIN FACPO corps. FACPO-players would be able to engage the same level of sec status player that would have spawned the NPC version. (-2 in 1.0, ect)

Its only fair that both sides have their own thread.

Viola!

To start out:

• Buff rats in belts. Give them web/scram/smartbombs. The longer someone sits in a belt, the stronger class of rat spawns in.
• NPC corps of opposing factions are at war by default, mirroring FW.
• Remove local. If you want to see local, youll need to be in a corp, and the corp will pay a tax to connect to the local intel.
• Once wardecced, you do not have the ablity to leave corp at all. The button is grayed out. The only way out is to surrender or win. If the defender (and allies) beats the aggressor after 1 week (isk war), the aggressor is unable to declare war for two weeks after that.
• Move ALL level 4 missions to lowsec, and increase the payouts.
• Remove highsec incursions, or dramatically decrease the payouts. There is no risk for the current meta.
• Ships in NPC corps must pay docking fees each time they dock up.
• NPC players cant undock in anything larger than a cruiser hull.
• If you are operating in a lower-sec part of highsec, you get pirate FACPO-style response if you have a super-positive sec status.
• Killing a -5 or below in highsec adds "tags" to their wreck, purchasable by NPC's at CONCORD stations (similar to WH loot). Does not spawn if CONCORD is on the KM. The more badass the pirate, the more ISK his tags are worth.
• Miners whom deplete a belt are fined, and assessed a sec status hit.

Edit: Allow players to JOIN FACPO corps. FACPO-players would be able to engage the same level of sec status player that would have spawned the NPC version. (-2 in 1.0, ect)

Just remember, you **** off us miners, and you will eventually be back in your rookie ships wondering wth happened to all those nice ships that was once on the market. I think us miners should go on strike for a month to prove a point =ƒÿÄ


Drill he terriers drill =ƒÿÄ. (Good mining song)

Just remember, you **** off us miners, and you will eventually be back in your rookie ships wondering wth happened to all those nice ships that was once on the market.

I think us miners should go on strike for a month to prove a point

"THE ANCHORABLE ANNIHILATOR SINGULARITY OF MAYHEM AND DESTRUCTION"

[edit] assumed you meant "THE ANCHORABLE ANNIHILATOR SINGULARITY OF MAYHEM AND DESTRUCTION" should pop the carebears too.

Not originally, but I really like the idea of AFK ganking to balance AFK mining. It would only be fair.

So there would be a named version, "Renegade's ANCHORABLE ANNIHILATOR SINGULARITY OF MAYHEM AND DESTRUCTION" and again, we like new players, so it would only be 750k ISK. It will have a second timer of 1min, if the deployable is not destroyed in that time it will release a toxic cloud which will start at 50 dps of AOE omni-damage and double the damage output every 30s. Once all the ships are dead around the deployable it will deactivate and stay that way until redeployed.

To complete the set, there would be yet another version, "Ima's ANCHORABLE ANNIHILATOR SINGULARITY OF MAYHEM AND DESTRUCTION", which will cost an additional 50k, has the same properties as "Renegade's ANCHORABLE ANNIHILATOR SINGULARITY OF MAYHEM AND DESTRUCTION" but also loots the targets after the gank like a tractor unit. It would loot valuable modules first to maximize PROFIT. This way the deployable could also be useful to new players(!) who want to PLEX their account and just want to farm some ISK in a relaxing way after a hard day of work at the office. Some players many not come up with the idea to combine a "Renegade's ANCHORABLE ANNIHILATOR SINGULARITY OF MAYHEM AND DESTRUCTION" with a regular tractor unit or are too lazy to deploy two mobile structures and we should respect that "play style". We don't want CCP to lose subscription money only because the game lacks this option.

Should there be a fourth version which salvages the wrecks and transports itself back to the gankers home station or would that be too much?

I am sure there will be some details that have to be worked out, but I am confident this can be implemented by CCP in ~ half an hour. I mean it sounds simple and I already did all the work by coming up with the idea. I am confident if CCP wants it could be on the live server after downtime today.

The fact of teh matter is, however, that the chest thumping too-much-chest-hair swaggalicious minority who think they're too sexy for their kestrels are actually not the majority of EVE players at all.

You sure you're not an AFK Miner at heart?

[quote=Tinu Moorhsum]


If the USA gets wardecced by canada (lol), I cant decide to leave the country. ( Well, if I did, they still tax me.... seriously...)

Don't worry the last time that happened we torched the white house ran out of beer and came home.

Don't worry the last time that happened we torched the white house ran out of beer and came home.

I have a great idea, why don't we let people play the game they pay for, the way they want to play the game.

If you want to mine and sell minerals, mine all you want. But be alert to your surroundings.

If you want to buy minerals to make ships, weapons, modules and ammunition, have fun.

If you want to log in and run missions in Hi-Sec for a few hours, then do so.

If you want to go live in Null Sec, Low Sec or Wormholes and PvP everyday, please go enjoy yourself

If you want to gank unsuspecting or AFK people, go ahead, but be prepared for when they decide to fight back.


Now granted it should be harder for someone with a -10.0 Security Status to get into systems that are .8 and above but not impossible. Because currently the reward is greater than the risk. Granted a person with a -10.0 status is attackable by anyone, but how many people actually try it?

The game is one big sandbox, there is enough here for everyone to enjoy the different facets and have fun doing it.

I have a great idea, why don't we let people play the game they pay for, the way they want to play the game.

If you want to mine and sell minerals, mine all you want. But be alert to your surroundings.

If you want to buy minerals to make ships, weapons, modules and ammunition, have fun.

If you want to log in and run missions in Hi-Sec for a few hours, then do so.

If you want to go live in Null Sec, Low Sec or Wormholes and PvP everyday, please go enjoy yourself

If you want to gank unsuspecting or AFK people, go ahead, but be prepared for when they decide to fight back.


Now granted it should be harder for someone with a -10.0 Security Status to get into systems that are .8 and above but not impossible. Because currently the reward is greater than the risk. Granted a person with a -10.0 status is attackable by anyone, but how many people actually try it?

The game is one big sandbox, there is enough here for everyone to enjoy the different facets and have fun doing it.