Confirming that Tengu Grib is, in fact, a tool.

Came hoping to hear about my promised Thanatos. Am not yet satisfied. If Leto wants my vote for CSM, I need that Thanny.

And preferably a Fedo.

I'm getting...hungry....

The fact of teh matter is, however, that the chest thumping too-much-chest-hair swaggalicious minority who think they're too sexy for their kestrels are actually not the majority of EVE players at all. Moreover, we owe our lifestyle to those who putter around and fill the market with the things we buy.

Personally, it's doesn't matter to me at all if someone makes their money on modules that they made in high-sec, low-sec or null-sec. In fact, economically speaking, the high-sec producers are my best friends becasue they can make things with the least amount of overhead. If a high-sec producer becomes rich.... MEH.... who cares. What matters is that the economy works.

Confirming I'll provide a tranny to Bronson asap.

To hell with CSM. Make Leto a dev.

And bigger is ALWAYS a better phallic symbol, regardless of shape.

This post is geared towards the nerfmongers. The miners, the mission runners, the explorers... who want interaction with other players to be optional. Please also take that in context. I am not referring to ALL miners, mission runners, or explorers. Just the ones who cry about being blown up. The ones who want MY game to change so it is easier for them.

This is still EvE. Its suppose to be rough, right?

A lot of us Highsec gankers also produce the stuff we actually use and don't rely on the highsec carebears. The only input I need in fact is the ore that drops from the miners and some t2 materials that come directly from null/low sec. Manufacturing is incredibly easy and fits perfectly into the first few criminal timers of the day.

The game is actually much more interesting if you don't rely on them for production and simply use them as targets.

Its only fair that both sides have their own thread.

Viola!

To start out:

• Buff rats in belts. Give them web/scram/smartbombs. The longer someone sits in a belt, the stronger class of rat spawns in.
• NPC corps of opposing factions are at war by default, mirroring FW.
• Remove local. If you want to see local, youll need to be in a corp, and the corp will pay a tax to connect to the local intel.
• Once wardecced, you do not have the ablity to leave corp at all. The button is grayed out. The only way out is to surrender or win. If the defender (and allies) beats the aggressor after 1 week (isk war), the aggressor is unable to declare war for two weeks after that.
• Move ALL level 4 missions to lowsec, and increase the payouts.
• Remove highsec incursions, or dramatically decrease the payouts. There is no risk for the current meta.
• Ships in NPC corps must pay docking fees each time they dock up.
• NPC players cant undock in anything larger than a cruiser hull.
• If you are operating in a lower-sec part of highsec, you get pirate FACPO-style response if you have a super-positive sec status.
• Killing a -5 or below in highsec adds "tags" to their wreck, purchasable by NPC's at CONCORD stations (similar to WH loot). Does not spawn if CONCORD is on the KM. The more badass the pirate, the more ISK his tags are worth.
• Miners whom deplete a belt are fined, and assessed a sec status hit.

Edit: Allow players to JOIN FACPO corps. FACPO-players would be able to engage the same level of sec status player that would have spawned the NPC version. (-2 in 1.0, ect)

Or is the complaint here really just that there aren't enough miners in lowsec?

The OP is complaining and he is complaining specifically about highsec. Notice the number of mention of the afk ratters/mining fleets in nullsec where PvP is meant to take place, he seem ok with these.

I will let the original poster into a secret the place to go for an large risk free income isn't highsec its nullsec but I think he already knows that.

Congratulations on either not actually reading the OP or failing to comprehend it.

OP isn't complaining. It's one utterly absurd post on the same level of nonsense that the other side seems to throw up on a daily basis. It's a humourous way of poking fun at people who want perfect safety because non-consentual interaction in a multiplayer game (even by Evemail) is griefing, cyberbullying, terrorism, murder and vegitarianism.

3. Removing local is an interesting concept from a veteran's point of view, but utterly prohibitive from new money's point of view. Impractical to implement, at best, since communication is the lifeline of any MMO. I'd suggest you try wormholes, but the locals tend to shoot back.

9+. The rest of this is pointless. We call this lowsec. If you'd ever gone into it, you'd understand why the miners would just stay on the "hi-sec" side of the boundary after the shift. Not like we actually have to leave the ,7 and ,8 systems to get decent ores, anyways.

Hisec = safe(ish) place for new players

Remove medical clones, get ride of the "Highlander syndrome" where you think you won't lose anything....skill points disappear every time you go pop and pods are only a ship available if you bail out or no shuttle in the station you dock. 20% of the ship skill piloted is lost, smaller frigates are 75% lost cause of the shorter train.

Lower the sec status you have, the more taxes you pay. Even you should belt rat red crosses to keep it up just as the care bear.

Wardec creates bounties you now pay to CONCORD for every ship you kill, value of ship x2. Pilot of said destroyed ship pays as well for the debris removal and CONCORD pops all wrecks involved.

Player corps now pay higher taxes, cause they are now competing with the NPC faction and empires. Like paying to breath air, you pay hourly taxes for your POS, jump taxes, docking fees, market fees.....make those NPC even richer.

All ships involved in ganks are destroyed, all wrecks removed, all pilots are podded should they try to bail but they cannot jumpgate or worm hole off + log off timer keeps you in space (you know, the slower the response time should you try it in .5 sec....you just cannot escape CONCORD to save your pod).

Fun times, harsh world. In a sandbox, nobody should dictate how someone else should have to suffer otherwise my suggestions should be taken into consideration cause no one wins in the end

The best part yet.... seems to be that even the guys who are trolling all say:

"Remove incursions? Yeaaah.... im ok with that."

Well, not remove them entirely, but if CONCORD isn't going to have the balls to show up against a legion of Sansha invaders, they sure as hell shouldn't magically show up in that system until the capsuleers chase off the incursion.

Basically turn any and all incursion systems into cyno jammed lowsec for the duration.