The proposal is simply good common sense for the most part, and occupancy-based sov and higher economic density are inarguable. I unreservedly support that part of the "Null Deal".

But I can't help noticing the hook in the bait: the requested NPC stations in each region. The coalition use for this is blindingly obvious: invulnerable staging points and cache stores. They will be of limited use for attackers, but extremely useful for imperial defenders, and the reason they've been asked for is to allow the existing blocs to maintain domination and influence, albeit not direct ownership, over their existing territories.

No secret has been made of the plans to set up large caches of ships in order to work around curbs on power projection: these stations are wanted for exactly this strategy.

By all means lets ask CCP to add more NPC space - that's a drum I've been banging for a long time now - but the way to do this is not to gift the powerblocks with free indestructible staging points in every region, but to add 2-3 more Curse/Stain style regions to the map, especially the east and north, with plenty of medical stations (Venal only has 2 IIRC) and pirate agents so that it's not trivial to hellcamp NPC based groups who become more than a nuisance. Place these regions such that those 0.0 regions which are currently far from any NPC space are now within range. That will accomplish the stated goal of "generate platforms for small-scale PVP content and launching points for smaller alliances. "

A full sized region has the resources to maintain a group that can be a realistic threat, not just harass hapless miners every now and then.

Who do I talk to about renting NPC nullsec systems in the middle of SOV holding alliances?

Ppl that want to fight not farm. It would exclude goons but noone would care :D

Occupancy sov changes several things.

First it makes it impossible for one power to own half of null.

Second it makes needing large fleets of several thousand redundant. The reason we use the massive fleets of today is because of the need to grind through huge amounts of EHP and defend against said huge fleets. This need goes away the second you get rid of the EHP grinds.

Lastly, Coalitions themselves would no longer be required to survive. It wont mean that they disband instantly but over time the rifts would get large enough that they will simply fall apart.

No. The price of T2 would fall. EVERYONE in null would be able to get the mats to make T2. But those materials would random and not fixed like they are now. They would also deplete and then respawn as something different.

You break the monopoly on T2 production and you will see major changes in the game cause prices will fall.

Nice attempt at being insulting. You will have to try harder.

As for your attempt to explain things. You're argument is based around the idea that it would require effort. Sorry bout that is exactly what I purpose. Moons are what make the alliances money. This is what needs to be broken up.

Your poor attempt to claim it would increase prices is just that. A poor attempt. Unless of course you are one of the moon miners and the idea upsets you. If more people have access to the materials, how exactly do you figure prices will go up?

How about with the next patch CCP breaks the patch and a universal standings reset. That might help break up a lot of these coalitions and larger alliances and bring back the small ones.


But somewhere on an earlier page, i saw a post about player limits. CCP really needs to rethink the corp management skills and max corp sizes and max alliance sizes.

Also bigger alliances do need bigger fees. not linear but exponential increase on fees and fees for each upgraded indice for the system.

You extract rent from them already even though it's their sov. What would change?

You're saying Pandemic Legion and Goonswarm are not renting that space? They didn't take that space to gain passive income? That they wouldn't find a way to continue maintaining their cash cow? That they couldn't charge more rent because that space would be more valuable?

You extract rent from them already even though it's their sov. What would change?

Lets see what problems we face:

1. tidi, crashes, servers have limits.
2. lack of fights between big alliances due to above.

3. no way for smaller aliances to play sov.

4. lack of new players (with sp to go against established coalitions).

1 and 2 can only be fixed by limiting players in fights - it is limited by tidi and upper server limit already but this limit is broken. There is need to limit this or no good fights will happen. ccp should stop this they talk about our 4000 ppl fight in news - if they knew how it looks they would laugh.

3. smaller aliances may not need sov but you can incorporate them as 3rd party that benefit from sov. They can fight one or other or both sides.

4. fix the game maybe more players will come.

We have winners of sov - create 2/4 factions - not npc factions like in faction warfare. Give coalitions faction status in game that can not be eradicated completly. Allow ppl to join them or act as 3rd party. Make them or allow them to fight - no stupid grinding of structures.