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coldplasma
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Posted - 2006.08.09 16:23:00 -
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...seriously, it seems like half of the threads on this forum are just whining about some age old game mechanism, whether it's about insta's or cloaking at safe-spots or some other wacky solution to fix a problem that doesn't need fixing.
Sure, this thread may be no better than any of the other threads, but I think we'd all be alot happier if people just stopped *****ing about things that have been apart of the game since the dawn of time!
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.09 16:25:00 -
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Its not a sudden influx.
Its been like this for a long, long, long time... 
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.08.09 16:25:00 -
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Why whining about whining, if whining is what you want to see less of?
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coldplasma
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Posted - 2006.08.09 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Why whining about whining, if whining is what you want to see less of?
I knew that was coming...
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.08.09 16:30:00 -
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I think people are just anticipating Kali. Plus you call it whining, but there are some valid arguments if you don't just read the thread title. People have good stuff to say/suggest. What makes it a whine thread is when someone comes in and their reply is:
"Stop Whining go play WoW"
I'd like to see more discussion about some of the topics as they are interesting to some degree. However, when you get 4 threads about fixing instas on the front page, it is a little errrrr... over the edge.
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coldplasma
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Posted - 2006.08.09 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
I think people are just anticipating Kali. Plus you call it whining, but there are some valid arguments if you don't just read the thread title. People have good stuff to say/suggest. What makes it a whine thread is when someone comes in and their reply is:
"Stop Whining go play WoW"
I'd like to see more discussion about some of the topics as they are interesting to some degree. However, when you get 4 threads about fixing instas on the front page, it is a little errrrr... over the edge.
Yeah, I've read through these thread and can see the posters point, but in the end, insta's and such have been at the centre of gameplay for years and it's hardly likely CCP are just gonna say "lol no you can't have that anymore!". It'll be like taking a lollipop away from a child who hasn't finished it yet 
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Lardarz B'stard
Amarr
Out Of Exile
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Posted - 2006.08.09 16:35:00 -
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It has evolved to the extent that there are now 5th and 6th generation whiners.
People who whine about whiners whining about whiners whining about whines about whines about things in the game.
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Nafri
Caldari
Cataclysm Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.09 16:37:00 -
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Im whining to improve this game since 2003, so nothing new
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St Dragon
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.09 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Lardarz B'stard
It has evolved to the extent that there are now 5th and 6th generation whiners.
People who whine about whiners whining about whiners whining about whines about whines about things in the game.
God i love your Signiture
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Marund
Cooperative Freelance Navigators Association
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Posted - 2006.08.09 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Lardarz B'stard
It has evolved to the extent that there are now 5th and 6th generation whiners.
People who whine about whiners whining about whiners whining about whines about whines about things in the game.
Now all we need is the inbred-generation whiners! 
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Lardarz B'stard
Amarr
Out Of Exile
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Posted - 2006.08.09 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: St Dragon
Originally by: Lardarz B'stard
It has evolved to the extent that there are now 5th and 6th generation whiners.
People who whine about whiners whining about whiners whining about whines about whines about things in the game.
God i love your Signiture
Why thank you, I made it myself
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Antodias
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.09 17:42:00 -
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When no one whines, it's a very bad sign. It means everyone's bored and don't really give a toss about the game anymore.
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The Slayer
Caldari
Millennium
E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.08.09 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Lardarz B'stard
People who whine about whiners whining about whiners whining about whines about whines about things in the game.
Oh god my head just burst. jasdf
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Caethes Adain
Minmatar
The Descendents
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Posted - 2006.08.09 17:47:00 -
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It wasn't always so whingey, I think that when it got past the 12K per nigh point the forums turned into the hideous whine-fest it is now.
I only pop in for the dev blogs and the occasional item of amusement.
/me awaits more dev blogs with kali gfx
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Fi T'Zeh
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.09 18:06:00 -
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It's simply statistics.
Lets say that there are X% of the population (Y)who whine.
the population is increasing daily, therefore X% x Y = Bigger
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POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one
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Clementina
God's of Eve
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Posted - 2006.08.09 18:10:00 -
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It's not a sudden influx, it has been going on for years now. The genesis of it is that people think a nerf by the devs will make their game easier at other's expense. Little do they know that the nerf bat swings both ways.
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Hllaxiu
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.08.09 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
It's simply statistics.
Lets say that there are X% of the population (Y)who whine.
the population is increasing daily, therefore X% x Y = Bigger
Simple solution then, ban the whiners.
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Imperial Coercion
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.09 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: coldplasma
age old game mechanism
Thats 'broken' and still hasnt been fixed.
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Brutor Shaun
Minmatar
Freelancers UK Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.09 18:27:00 -
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Totally OT, but did you notice that "*****ing" in the thread title wasn't censored, but it is in the thread!
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Death Kill
Caldari
direkte
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Posted - 2006.08.09 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Brutor Shaun
Totally OT, but did you notice that "*****ing" in the thread title wasn't censored, but it is in the thread!
Better have you banned right away then!!
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Jobie Thickburger
Gallente
Miner Guide to the Galaxy
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Posted - 2006.08.09 18:39:00 -
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Its Wendesday, People are at work, board out of their minds....
And they dream all day about what to do in Eve...
Then they realize their plans will be spoiled by XXXYYYZZZ not being nerfed
So they whine
Eh, What can ya do 
CEO - MGTTG
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Lienzo
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.08.09 18:59:00 -
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We need a special font that indicates whining.
Seven Deadly Sins
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Kilo Paskaa
Thugs 4 less
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Posted - 2006.08.09 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lienzo
We need a special font that indicates whining.
You know, add Whine button next to "Make a new topic". People can rant there all the day and their posts will disappear to blackhole.
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Kurren
Farscape Mining
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Posted - 2006.08.09 20:25:00 -
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There is no influx in whining. Only an influx in new people that haven't figured anything out yet.
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Lardarz B'stard
Amarr
Out Of Exile
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Posted - 2006.08.09 21:00:00 -
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CCP should do random Whining Russian Roulette.
Posters of all the whine posts per hour are put into a hat.
One asset, at random, is blown up per whine post of the guilty party.
CCP fix it so that 'random asset' is a rattlesnake, dreadnought or tech 2 bpo.
problem solved.
but then, i suppose people would whine about that
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dantes inferno
Caldari
Rampage Eternal
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Posted - 2006.08.09 21:04:00 -
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there are always people who wine and cry at every mechanic which does not make their game play easier..their scum and should be ignored.
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Cetshwayo
Fortunis Novum
Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.09 21:20:00 -
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It's human nature to be vocal about something you dislike and would like to see changed. You forget that there are thousands of other players not paying attention to the forums simply because they are content.
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dantes inferno
Caldari
Rampage Eternal
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Posted - 2006.08.09 21:43:00 -
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Quote:
You forget that there are thousands of other players not paying attention to the forums simply because they are content.
you dont happen to work for SOE do you??
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Lord Frost
Minmatar
The Crystal Method
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Posted - 2006.08.09 21:46:00 -
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More players = more problems = more whines
And when you have more whines, it tends to mean more people are ganking and griefing... which tend to lead to people wanting better balance.
which leads to me, trying to make a point and even confusing myself.
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Vargrh
Gallente
Stupid People Always Need Killing
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Posted - 2006.08.10 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: coldplasma
...seriously, it seems like half of the threads on this forum are just whining about some age old game mechanism, whether it's about insta's or cloaking at safe-spots or some other wacky solution to fix a problem that doesn't need fixing.
Sure, this thread may be no better than any of the other threads, but I think we'd all be alot happier if people just stopped *****ing about things that have been apart of the game since the dawn of time!
Perhaps the sudden INSANE lag spikes in any area with more then 40 pilots in space has something to do with this...
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Chain Gang
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Posted - 2006.08.10 11:37:00 -
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Because the forum moderators Banned all the good people from the forums ....
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.10 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Chain Gang
Because the forum moderators Banned all the good people from the forums ....
Think a lot more just left.... either completely, or just couldn't be arsed with the forums anymore.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.10 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kurren
There is no influx in whining. Only an influx in new people that haven't figured anything out yet.
That pretty much explains it really.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.10 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Vargrh
Originally by: coldplasma
...seriously, it seems like half of the threads on this forum are just whining about some age old game mechanism, whether it's about insta's or cloaking at safe-spots or some other wacky solution to fix a problem that doesn't need fixing.
Sure, this thread may be no better than any of the other threads, but I think we'd all be alot happier if people just stopped *****ing about things that have been apart of the game since the dawn of time!
Perhaps the sudden INSANE lag spikes in any area with more then 40 pilots in space has something to do with this...
Lol you new or something? You're acting like this is anyhting actually new.... been having periods of lag/bad server performance since the game started. Just like any other MMO.
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.08.10 11:53:00 -
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influx of carebear WOWers - they meet hardcore real loss PVP and suddenly u have whiner itis - generally i just avoid these threads adn post on the better ones
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Wild Rho
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.08.10 11:54:00 -
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It's been like this since day one really to a greater or lesser extent. The topic people are "discussing" seems to change every month or so.
Luckily most of the threads aren't too bad and some even have some constructive posts in them (the bad ones at least get locked or deleted pretty quickly). And if you think eve-o is bad you should see some other game forums, they are ALL whining/trolling/flaming/etc.
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your ass will be laminated. - Jennie Marlboro
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.10 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord
influx of carebear WOWers - they meet hardcore real loss PVP and suddenly u have whiner itis - generally i just avoid these threads adn post on the better ones
Couldn't you do that like the other way around.... would be much appreciated. 
Hmmm. in a bit of mild flaming mood today... isn't too serious for the record... just in case a oversensitive someone reads this.
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Mr Neutron
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2006.08.10 13:14:00 -
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I found most of the whining reasonable. There are of course problems common to all mmorpgs, but there are game mechanics in eve that could be done better.
Hopefuly the devs are at least statistically reading whine-threads to see where they should focus they attention / what can be done to enrich game experience for players.
rock on
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Kaar
Art of War
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Posted - 2006.08.10 13:37:00 -
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School holidays.
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TerrorWOLF
J.H.E.N.R
Pure.
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Posted - 2006.08.10 13:40:00 -
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There isnt so much more whining as there was when i started playing where there where 12k players at sunday/monday peak time. But whats worying is the amount of hate to new players seen on the forums, where one askes a question and frst few replays are "go back to hole you came form noob" and such and theres more and more of this. Am i geting to old for this game ???
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Evelyn Lavi
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Posted - 2006.08.10 13:41:00 -
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I'd say the constant server resets due to database failures caused the influx of "whining."
The most obvious source of this new burden is the flood of instas and insta-copying.
Yeah yeah, whine all you want about that, but if you're wondering why EVE's choking, it's because of the dependency on instas to outrun gank-camps.
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Lucre
STK Scientific
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.10 14:14:00 -
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Welcome to E-O.
To whine about bookmarks, press 1
To whine about HAC prices, press 2
To whine about projectile, press 3
To whine about tier 3 BS designs, press 4
To whine about macrominers, press caldari00005
To whine about lag, press 6 (again and again and hope something happens eventually)
To whine about BoB, press 7 (and duck)
To whine about GTC, press $888
To whine about lasers, press anything you like, we still won't listen...
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Zantazar
Caldari
The Syndicate Inc
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.10 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: coldplasma
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Why whining about whining, if whining is what you want to see less of?
I knew that was coming...
Why whine about people whining about whining ?
I would sell my soul, my body, and my entire family for a Navy Raven. (Just kidding .... my soul is not for sale)
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Ed Gein
Corsets and Carebears
Whips and Chains
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Posted - 2006.08.10 15:43:00 -
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I think thre is a bit of underlying rage as well. There are more people, which means more whiners too. The fact of the matter is a long long time ago, kali was supposed to come out last year, then it was said that possibly it would be Q2 this year, now its Q3. I think a lot of the older players can also feel the classic december release looming as well. The game has bugs now, they have to release the dragon code patch, and kali in the next 4-6 weeks? I don't see how this is going to happen, or even should really. Thats a lot of changes to the game very quickly which will just lead to more and more bugs. 
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Shadevildmanden
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Posted - 2006.08.10 16:18:00 -
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I agree with the OP, the wining is getting worse along with the number of pointless threads on these forums. I feel it has been getting worse since Nov-Dec 05 and you wanna know what i think is the cause? Our beautiful game has seen an influx of players who formerly played Staw Wars Galaxies and they seem to feel the need to whine, moan, twist and bleet about anything that doesn't suit them in the vain hope that they will achieve a change or nerf that suits them. They cant seem to understand that it was this activity that trashed swg
Thankfully, Eve is run/developed by a group of individuals who appreciate and listen to constructive posts only, for which this community should be proud and thankful. I personally would support a stricter policy on posting i.e if you havnt got anything of substance to say...stfu and increase your post count on www.talkaboutnothing.com
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Commander Sherridan
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Posted - 2006.08.10 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: Commander Sherridan on 10/08/2006 16:31:53
The complaints have always been there but as with everything you will put up with them for a while,
But eventualy you get ticked off and you start to voice your complaint,
However ccp dont listen to us no matter how hard we whine and that makes us get more ****ed off and we post again, and again.
My point been eve is eve, it is as its always been and no matter how much we cry to the devs they wont change it.
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PeeWee Pee
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Posted - 2006.08.10 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Shadevildmanden
I agree with the OP, the wining is getting worse along with the number of pointless threads on these forums.
QTF dude... very obvious empire carebears are making too much isk. then they gotz nottin else to do except whine about everything. they needs be put to their place and nerfed. make everywhere 0.0 peepz will be too worried about watching their own butt in game they cant be arsed to whine on whorums.
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