Came planning on making the same statement.

Left satisfied.

A titan is capital right? hows a 15k sig ship going to fit through a 5k sig stargate?

CCP,

You state that



Which in turn implies that a Black Ops ship will have the same factor for the cool down timer for a capital ship. While I agree with the sentiment that a cool down timer for all jump capable ships is acceptable (since you plan to implement it), the ratio is problemeatic.

Without getting too ~lore~ heavy (because seriously **** that ****), a Blops are more or less battleship class ships but with the neat jump portal feature. As a result, Blops ships are the size of a battleship, which is a fraction of the site of the capital. Why does the same length of cool down apply to the Black Ops ship that is applied to the Capital ship?

Shouldn't the Black Ops ship receive a, slightly, shorter cool down time & factor (I don't know the right ~math word~)?

Let's use something simple because, frankly, I'm dumb when it comes to math.

For the sake of this example let's use the currently proposed system and look at the cool down. Capitals and Blops ships share the same "1 + LY" fatigue. So for example, a Blops & Capital moving 4.85 LY (post change implementation) both have a cool down of 1 + 4.85, or 5 minutes 51 seconds.

They're two different sizes, two different masses and so forth. Why can't the BLOPs have a factor of say "0.75 + LY" as opposed to "1 + LY" that the capital ships receive?

In the provided example the jump that takes 4.85 LY would take the BLOPs ship 5 minutes 36 seconds to be able to jump out of system. This allows for the BLOPs ship to do it's typical "get in, get out" strategy that has become a staple of the intended use for the class, while also applying the proposed cool down timer changes.

Now, I'm not a math wiz and openly admit I'm probably missing something but figured I would ask.

Welcome to buying overpriced spaceships in null by buying more plex from CCP. Because logistics will become a real nightmare. Fun to see how few see that this is the real target, and how many idiots like Massadeath think CCP gave them the keys to the kingdom. CCP, i tought i saw most of the stupid things ever already. It's just proven i was wrong. Well, it's not stupid, it's just bad intended towards players and their RL wallets. But betting on people's addiction on a game to get money, if you remove most of the fun they get by playing, it's a really stupid move. This to use a "light" qualificative for your RL jewing abilities.

Why?

Now you can rat in your cap with increased safty... Now you can have a small scale pos battle without the bat phone... heck if you wanted you could even pull out a few super caps and not worry about the bat phone...

I think we have to re-focus our minds on how large eve is. right now we see eve as a small map but after the changes this small map will be like a huge map... and with it the region next to you should be seen as if its on the other side of eve now.

Greyscale did say that pos mods are going to be balanced... So dont expect your single rev being able to tank a death star for long.

Put ratting back into belts instead of stupid anamolies u gotta scan for, and see roamimg once again rise from the shadows

And btw, u gotta fix bumping if titans and supers are supposed to use gates. Pretty obvious why ..

I LOVE it.

Making distance a *real* issue makes the universe bigger, adds variance and brings opportunity for creative political gameplay formerly not available.

Honestly, since joining eve a little more than a year ago, it became obvious that the mechanics favored established power far too much. Power was a one dimensional game mechanic that was far out of balance.

I never thought they would have the balls to do something so specific and so intentional as this. They have a new respect from me. They are castrating the empire mechanic for the sake of a more complex and playable political landscape. That is a risk for them.

Props.

umm have you looked at a market lately, there are r16s worth more than tech these days

"the goons pointed out how i made a basic error that demonstrates I don't understand the basic facts i am purporting to be an expert on, this means I'm onto something"

"when i said tech moons, i did not mean tech moons, i meant something completely different that has a different name. it is you who is the stupid for not understanding me"

the cake uplifts the wet fire :rolleyes:

Some fun statistics.

8.9 % of all posts in this thread are from members of Goonswarm Federation.
15.2 % of all posts in this thread are from members of the CFC.

15.2 % of all posts in this thread are from faceless npc corp alts.

1.6 % of all posts in this thread are from members of pandemic legion.
2.8 % of all posts in this thread are from members of N3.

2.4 % of all posts in this thread are from NPC 0.0 entities.

2 % of all posts in this thread are from renters.

technetium is an R32 and there is literally no other use for a pile of moon minerals other than reacting into refined products that are used for t2 production

please stop pretending to know things about nullsec

that is what I like to see

the most ingratiating position of surrender possible

did you just imply that ccp would disband our alliance

lmbo

please tell us what will happen o master of moongoo

The range reduction is a far bigger issue than the cooldown timer. If capitals were keeping their current jump ranges (and currently we have no reason to believe they will) this thread wouldn't have anywhere near this many pages.

unfortunately that would be equivalent to just reducing jump bridge fatigue across the board as we coalesce into one alliance

I guess the time before jump drives, carriers and jump freighters where people lived in deep null actually didn't happen. I mean I was pretty sure industry was happening there as well. All those times escorting freighters, mining, hunting NPC haulers, fighting off invaders, almost losing my first carrier warping to a gate trying to solo... an interdictor... It was all just a dream...