No. This is exactly what you want to incentivize. If a coalition wants to jump in a large fleet, you want them to have to send in an expeditionary fleet first, which is more vulnerable than just a single cyno.

-Increase fitting/fuel requirements of cynos so insta-warp interceptors cannot fit/use them.
-Get rid of jump fatigue and add jump disruption: For 1 minute after jumping through a non-cov-ops cyno, a ship cannot warp and cannot cloak. For 10 minutes after jumping through a cyno, a ship cannot light another cyno.
-Do not allow cloaks and non-cov-ops cynos to be equipped to the same ship.

Now you have means for small-gangs of players to attack power projection, and who cares about cyno alts.

Should be treated the same way as stations. I'll double-check tomorrow that it's set up correctly.

If you're attacking a dread sitting sieged on top of a gate and you don't have tackle in place on the other side by the time his cycle is over, I'm not sure you really deserve the kill tbh.

My typical jump-distance is 7,4LY which I use for hauling stuff. This will not be possible anymore after this ******** change. At least not without another Cyno. My fuel-efficient carrier does 6,5LY without skills and now you want to nerf that down to 5LY AFTER skills? And no, as "the small guy" I can't afford a Jump Freighter.

it is late, I am half drunk and just read the blog, did I miss-read between the lines, but there will be changes to interdictors? As cap ships are being able to use the gates, is it a limit on bubbles dropped or will you need heavy interdictor with script to stop a cap ship? Or am I just more paranoid then normal?

No, this is dumb, and you should feel bad for saying it. Extracting capitals will work just fine, you might just need to wait a bit to move them around.

I have a couple of concerns about roaming capital ship fleets.

Carriers and Supercarriers can refit, in space, on demand

Carrier based doctrines will be able to easily switch their fits on the fly, between powerful damage setups and fast gate to gate travel. Carriers and supercarriers will actually be able to be frighteningly fast.

[Nyx, New Setup 1]
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Sentient Drone Damage Amplifier
Sentient Drone Damage Amplifier
Sentient Drone Damage Amplifier

Gist X-Type 100MN Microwarpdrive
Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I
Ahremen's Modified Heavy Energy Neutralizer

Capital Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Capital Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Capital Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

With high grade Ascendancies, this Nyx can warp at 4.2 AUs/second, and can enter warp in 10 seconds by pulsing the MWD for one cycle. If the ship is in any real danger, emergency jumping remains an option, and when working in tandem, they can refit on the fly to more survivable setups.

Ordinary carriers have the same capacity for high speed (as fast as Battleships into warp, as fast as cruisers while in warp) troublemaking. Being able to fly from stargate to stargate and refit while in space to any configuration at any time seems to be a little too powerful.

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Am I correct when I say that players will be able to set their clone location to their starting system, no matter what?

Jeez the long term ramifications of these changes boggle the brain.

Ice prices crashing, sov empires declining into small held fortresses, cap fleets jumping gates into fleet fights..


Lol the plus 1 scout archon.

Cyno jammed your system? so what... jump in through the gate, warp to the tower. The really exciting stuff is yet to come guys, the sov changes taken in context of these changes to cap mobility will be he real jaw dropper.

Roaming fleets of RR carriers and battleships. hahahah

Fantastic times ahead.

All you people crying about timers realise it's nowhere near as bad as you think. Over long distances it's actually more sensible to wait out your first fatigue timer fully rather than rapid jumping.
Or if you set it up nicely, jump once.
Take gates while the timer ticks down.
Jump again
Rinse & repeat mixing gates & jumps to create the fastest overall travel while not maxing out your timer ever.

Til someone comes through any of the dozens of WHs within 5LY and cynos in on top of them yes.

WTB Triage Carrier's!!!

This change will force big alliances with sov to think twice before hot dropping 20 caps for a hurricane kill, or titan bridging 100 people on the the little cute merlin.

Think what this will do for the games economy... People will want more caps then they all ready have, the little guys (stop looking at me) can assist their 15 man BS Fleet with a triage knowing that any significant threat will be within 5 LY

Rooks and Kings can make more video's!!!! Though I did like the pipe-bomb, i liked your triage video more.

This will also force pilots and fleets that want to get to a destination consider using BS fleets again.

More caps will be wanted = economy boost
More pilots wanting caps due to safer conditions (ME!!!) = economy boost
More subcap fleets = economy boost

not to mention all the small alliances that want their own space

Now I read a lot of the tears so far. So u want to rat in Nyx's, and U want this and u want that. We all see how dead 0.0 is getting. People are just sitting in belts and grinding that isk. While good for your wallet, not good for economy.

Sounds like you can still do it but remember the days when subcaps meant "OH CRAP THESE GUYS MEAN SERIOUZ BISNEZ"

Means you will have to plan carefully and and use your past exp to keep your elite status of capital warfare, if you don't or fail to live up to your reputation then you are only proving that you abused something in the game that became easy.

Look at eve, everything about it is supposed to be hard, the learning curve is only for the brave of us to stick with it. If you have all ready invested this much time in the game, you will find new ways to dominate in your sov wars. I'm confident in that.

thx for reading my crap, sorry for the horrible grammar,
and I was serious, I really want to buy some triage carriers cuz of this now.

Sure. You hit a 5.5 hour jump timer at jump number 20 after 15 hours of travel, which would be a good time to take a break and get a nap. Once you wake up you can finish the run in less than an hour.

If you're smarter, you can do 14 jumps in 3.5 hours and take a 2 hour break, come back and finish the run. But that would require smarts.

Of course, you could probably do it in a lot fewer mids if you're willing to take a few gates. Paala - LXQ2-T makes a helluva difference in the total number of jumps needed. But of course you'd probably want someone to scout for you and clear the bubbles. But hey - shouldn't your PL overlords be willing to keep the chokepoints clear for you? After all you are paying them billions per month in rent...

In one of CCP Greyscale's posts he said these limits are explicitly intended for all caps as well as supers.

From what I'm reading on the 'other' EVE forum sites, as many people are claiming to be coming back to the game because of these changes as there are here swearing they're going to quit.

End result: No change in players subbed. Just the entitled leave and the ones that want a dynamic fun game come back.

Mr Epeen

Corporation(s) renting space from you or us (Period Basis comes to mind in our case). They are screwed. What's gonna happen is we'll probably see demand for renter space closer to low sec. Those poor guys in "deep" null are SOL. They will become even more dependent on their landlords now.

At least that's what I think, I may be completely off target though.

Good because that is a horrible way to play an MMO.

Carrying ship fatigue over repackaging is not possible at the moment, or so hinted Greyscale.

Temporally binding the pilot to the ship should be doable, though, and as a bonus would prevent scamming through fatigued capitals who become sitting ducks after the buyer enters them.

You say that, but the thing is that this is phase 1 in a series of changes which I, for one, hope'll improve the game dramatically, and make the act of dropping caps/supers a more localized thing instead of a red light for the rest of the eve universe to converge on, say, B-R #2.j

If losing bitter vets who think caps and up are the only ships worth playing is what's needed to shake nullsec up properly, then I'm all for it, and it sounds like CCP are all for it too.

Sorry, smaller entities? What smaller entities, they all got absorbed into one of the two power blocks. Oh, I guess there is Provi still.

You say that, but I think you'll find that there's a lot more people resubbing (or going to be resubbing) once EVE starts having wars in nullsec again, even if it isn't the same old style of "dump all the caps into a single system, sit in sub-10% tidi for 5 hours and win/lose based on who brings the most people".

You can't develop a game to please everyone, you develop the game to please the majority, because that's the way you get the most money. It's also the way you get free advertizing, through word of mouth. And I don't want a game where you have to be in a capital or be useless.

Interesting idea, but it won't deal with the main problem for subcaps, which is normal caps making them more or less obsolete when caps are deployed in the right configuration, and it would also make for a sucky return for someone who's been unsubscribed for a year for reasons, only to come back to an EVE where the sov map looks radically different to when he left. So he's now left in hostile space, and maybe his old corp/alliance doesn't even exist.

I guess that could be argued as being an incentive for people to stay subscribed and active, but yeah, no.

I can some what understand this perspective. But remember, the DEVs said if they have to sacrifice some players for the better long term goal, then so be it.