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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2014.10.03 03:56:37 -
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Now before anyone cries foul and wants me tried for heresy, hear me out.
I am a player who enjoys EVE, especially the carnage in space. However, Walking in Stations could be implemented without taking too many resources from other development assets.
If a small team (1-3 Devs) were allocated to do piecemeal work on WiS per patch cycle, it could be expanded.
The primary focus of course would be the spaceships aspect of EVE. But here are a few suggestions just off the cuff.
- Decorum for CQ (interactable items, i.e. drinks, smokes, medal displays, etc) - Being able to display certain loot items on the wall - Expansion of CQ to include hangar, not just the gantry leading to your ship - Gambling and vending machines in a promenade or concourse area - Shops, agent hubs, actual Corporate Offices (and meeting rooms) - Bars, clubs, et cetera
Anything the imagination can really manifest in a reasonable fashion could be implemented bit by bit. This way, in a year or two there would be expansive environments for those who wanted them, and you could still opt out of using it if you so choose. Hell, allow pilots to even interact with dust bunnies on station. I believe this reasonable, but as initially stated, space would still be the primary priority along with mechanics.
"War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives"-á
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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2014.10.03 18:26:57 -
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Opinions?
"War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives"-á
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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2014.10.05 16:29:13 -
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This is a valid option.
"War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives"-á
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General Abrams
Ghost Operations Tactical Unit
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Posted - 2014.10.06 08:03:26 -
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In any way you suggest this... and in a way I agree with you... People will just say, those 1-3 Devs could have been working on something else Spaceship related, especially in regards to broken stuff, which... there still is.
I've heard it suggested that CCP should do it... but not advertise that they are doing it... and at one expansion that has Other cool additions, slip this new content out... saying "Oh BTW, there's new CQ content too, Enjoy!"
Which TBH, would be the best way to handle it. |
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.10.06 08:28:08 -
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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2014.10.09 04:23:09 -
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General Abrams wrote:In any way you suggest this... and in a way I agree with you... People will just say, those 1-3 Devs could have been working on something else Spaceship related, especially in regards to broken stuff, which... there still is.
I've heard it suggested that CCP should do it... but not advertise that they are doing it... and at one expansion that has Other cool additions, slip this new content out... saying "Oh BTW, there's new CQ content too, Enjoy!"
Which TBH, would be the best way to handle it.
That too is a valid point. At some point it would be nice to be able to take a stroll through the station and explore. See things, interact, et cetera.
"War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives"-á
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Demon-of-Razgriz
Warlock Brigade Fortis Et Certus
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Posted - 2014.10.09 05:24:13 -
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First I must say your really pushing and sound very needy constantly posting to bump it up.
However I would like to see something happen to that door that stops even immortal capsuleers but not something that extensive maybe a gathering area for all of eve to talk to dusties and pilots all in one place.
I do know I have put something to this extent on every single survey i filled out for this game for several years. |
Demon-of-Razgriz
Warlock Brigade Fortis Et Certus
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Posted - 2014.10.09 05:24:59 -
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So I doubt it will happen any time soon. |
Luwc
Brodozers Inc.
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Posted - 2014.10.09 07:19:06 -
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+1
instead of having your devs recruited by RIOT you could give them something to work on
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ArmyOfMe
PILGRIMS Advent of Fate
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Posted - 2014.10.09 08:37:16 -
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Im gonna support you on this one. Lets face it, for a lot of us the time spent online is spent docked up and just chatting. So in those regards WIS would actually be a nice change.
QUOTE CCP Dolan and the EVE Online development team:-áThe battle was relatively even for some time with CFC and Russian forces holding moderate lead at first and only have a slight lead in Titan kills. Then came a turning point in the battle. Manfred Sideous, the initial Fleet Commander for PL/N3, handed over command to the CEO of Northern Coalition., Vince Draken
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Ned Black
Driders
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Posted - 2014.10.09 10:03:12 -
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ArmyOfMe wrote:Im gonna support you on this one. Lets face it, for a lot of us the time spent online is spent docked up and just chatting. So in those regards WIS would actually be a nice change.
I still say what I said before Incarna...
Walking in stations for the sake of walking is completely boring. People may do it once or twice to watch the scenery, but other than that they will sit in their ships and just put it on /ignore as they do about the captains prison... One of the first things I do after a fresh install is to move to hangar view and then never ever back to the prison cell.
Add fighting in stations, boarding stations and stuff like that and you have something interresting however. |
Agatir Solenth
Servants of the Throne Worlds
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Posted - 2014.10.10 00:11:15 -
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I've been waiting for this since they originally announced it. The ability to have an Avatar that could interact with other toons would be a boon for the RPing community.
I could see special player events that could start out in stations, and lead into space.
We could have player sponsored poker tournaments. (in game, not some side website)
It could be an additional resource for recruitment of new players. I know of a handful of MMORPG players that avoid EvE simply because they can't walk in stations. These same folks love to PvP, craft, and RP. However they won't commit to a game that only has the PvP and crafting. The fact that I can't them to try EvE due to the lack of a walking avatar is frustrating as hell.
Besides I'd love to be able to sit cloak spinning instead of ship spinning any day. |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2014.10.10 02:40:45 -
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Well, this is actually going better than expected. Thank you all for the input.
"War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives"-á
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Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.10.10 12:21:00 -
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How about first they fix the beds.
Not only are they shorter than any of us ... ... there's no damn room for a second person!
Besides above or below, of course..... I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2014.10.10 13:52:36 -
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Never even thought about that. How about adding a bathroom/shower. Otherwise we will have some really smelly capsuleers.
"War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives"-á
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Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.10.10 13:59:38 -
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Jack Carrigan wrote:Never even thought about that. How about adding a bathroom/shower. Otherwise we will have some really smelly capsuleers. I certainly do not smell like anything but pleasure ......
You may sniff .... .... but contain yourself!
*raising my arm slowly towards you*
> I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked, with sparkles of cinnamon on my skin.
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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2014.10.10 16:10:38 -
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Well played.
"War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives"-á
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Terenius Neo
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.11 08:11:09 -
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Nice to see some talk on this topic going on again. The ideas collected here are maybe not all to new but actually enough to maybe again let one or two devs have again a second thought on the Avatar gameplay in Eve.
Expanding the captains quarters like mentioned here would be damn nice.
I was always a supporter auf walking in stations. CCP failed very with it in the Incarna release but that was when 2011?
Oh man, I would so badly have the possibility to use this bad to rest on it while browsing the market or chat. Come on at least that little extra and I do not even mention a pole with one of those exotic Gallente playing with it... |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2014.10.11 17:12:50 -
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Wouldn't be too bad.
"War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives"-á
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Flamespar
Pradox One Proficiency V.
1245
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Posted - 2014.10.13 03:58:15 -
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Yes. Open the door already. There is fun to be had on the other side.
It was announced at PAX Australia that the first multiplayer avatar areas to be opened in Star Citizen will be the social ones, and they are slated to be delivered next year.
It's annoying that CCP once dreamed of becoming an ultimate sci simulator, failed to deliver, and now a competitor is coming in to deliver what CCP cannot.
Fortunately the avatar stuff in EVE (what little there is) still looks far superior to what is currently in star citizen (especially the player characters), CCP still has a competitive advantage that they can capitalize on, should they choose to.
Given that CCP is more than willing to devote an entire development studio to a game that they would eventually abandon (World of Darkness). I think it is stupid that they won't assign a few devs to enriching their current game with station interiors.
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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2014.10.13 03:59:55 -
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Couldn't agree with you more.
I am the One who exists in Shadow. I am the Demon your parents warned you about.
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Vrakas
The Oasis Group TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.23 05:43:19 -
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A relatively simple start would be to allow us to invite other players into our quarters. To ramp that up a bit, perhaps a bit of customization options to the captains quarters, paint colors even? Placeable in game discoveries? |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2014.10.23 05:58:56 -
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A good option
I am the One who exists in Shadow. I am the Demon your parents warned you about.
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Crasniya
Strange Energy The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.10.30 15:50:53 -
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Sadly, I've seen no indication CCP intends to do any real new development on EVE, since they haven't really done any in the last three years either.
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Lell Scarlatti
Creed Militant
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Posted - 2014.10.30 19:34:19 -
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I think instead of trying to add elements of Second Life to EVE, CCP should focus on the things that actually, I don't know, improve the game. It's a game about blowing ships up in space. Focus on that, not some useless feature. Incarna was a horrid expansion; alot of dev time and resources dedicated to catering to the RMT crowd, and the game suffered heavily as a result. |
Jenna Olgidar
OutLawed Country Inc. Outlaw Nation.
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Posted - 2014.10.31 16:24:03 -
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It would be an added bonus to one of the upgrades dedicated to upgrading the graphics.
Hell go full ****** sell stuff in the NEX store to put in to your walk about station stuff. Added revenue to CCP. -looking at CCP -
Anything is possible. I would like to see something new other then spinning my ship in the hanger.
-Olga
So yeah like my post.
-Olga
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Biomass MeNOW
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.11.01 11:09:03 -
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WiS was a bad idea from the start and, in its current limited iteration, remains a bad idea.
It should be simply tossed into the bin like so many other things that continue to languish without any further work or consideration (COSMOS, et al).
They launched it, came up with the horrible idea that players would pay hundreds of dollars for cosmetic gee-gaws no one else would see (since you cannot interact with other players outside of your ship - which is what EVE is all about) was a huge waste of CCPs time.
And - since that implementation a sum total of almost nothing has been done with it (I left for almost three years and when I returned it was all exactly the same). |
Flamespar
Pradox One Proficiency V.
1245
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Posted - 2014.11.01 11:30:24 -
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Except of course, players ARE spending money on clothing items according to the CSM minutes.
This is despite the currently limited functionality of the captains quarters.
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Flamespar
Pradox One Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.11.01 11:33:13 -
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Oh. And meanwhile Star Citizen demonstrates a ship docking with a derelict station which players explore with their avatars.
Gun fights and zero gravity follow.
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Agatir Solenth
Servants of the Throne Worlds
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Posted - 2014.11.02 16:08:55 -
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Lell Scarlatti wrote:I think instead of trying to add elements of Second Life to EVE, CCP should focus on the things that actually, I don't know, improve the game. It's a game about blowing ships up in space. Focus on that, not some useless feature. Incarna was a horrid expansion; alot of dev time and resources dedicated to catering to the RMT crowd, and the game suffered heavily as a result.
For you, EvE is about blowing up ships in space. By that argument they shouldn't have industry, because I don't engage in it, and see it as a waste of resources. (you could simply seed the market with NPC built ships) Just because some folks wouldn't use the feature, doesn't mean it would not make EvE a more inviting place for more players.
I for one, would like to see new things in the game. As someone with 130+ mil SP, adding "new" destroyers to the game is a total lack of development resources imho, nor do I see it as "new" content. However, I can see what player demographic CCP is attempting to appease with these additions. I'd just like to see CCP look at adding some content to the other player types (other than pure PvPers). The Roleplaying community is HUGE in the MMORPG community.
I'd also bet that as soon as alliances can custom paint their ships, many large alliances will be bucking up to do so, and the RMT crowd will grow significantly. |
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