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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
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Posted - 2014.10.04 14:52:00 -
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Trixi Audeles wrote: So it sounds like what I need when I do my research is find a corp that meets my PvE needs but that also has a good track record of fighting back during wardecs? Should I look at their wars and see if they had some good kills against the deccers? That might be hard to find because I just checked a bunch and they either had 0/0 kills/killed (which I assume means they docked up) or lots of losses against them.
A. Forget about killboard stats.
B. War reports show nothing really. A single loss can skew it one way while the rest of the war was going the other way.
C. 0/0 reports can also mean no fights just happened (aggressor was just hoping on easy kills in for instance Jita / aggressor and defender had totally different timezones) but it can also mean that a fight did happen without losses (I was in a war in the past where we went out and fought some WT after they took our bait - in the end both fleet were matched and we weren't able to kill each other or get more back up to tilt the fight in our favor...so we disengaged). Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar |
Deck Cadelanne
Exigent Circumstances CAStabouts
50
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Posted - 2014.10.04 15:06:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:
Where did I say it's all or nothing.
I just said that you are never completely safe and that people in the sandbox might have a different way of having fun that can conflict with your gameplay...
No offense intended. You said nothing of the sort! The OP's comments suggest maybe they have been thinking along the lines of "I need to find a highsec missioning/industry/etc. corp" when in fact there are a lot of corps that might be very good for the OP that are outside hisec and may have a totally different focus.
Just encouraging thinking about lots of options, and hoping the OP has been given some useful suggestions in this thread (I think there have been plenty!)
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Creamdream
Unlimited Potential
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Posted - 2014.10.05 02:25:00 -
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What are you? You are acting like a subordinate of an army drill officer. Get a grip, leave that **** corps and never look back. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
1689
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Posted - 2014.10.05 02:53:00 -
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It is also important to note that most CEOS and other people in positions of supposed authority in any given highsec corporation most likely didn't do anything whatsoever to earn that position and were appointed to it entirely arbitrarily.
So when those people are saying dumb crap or making decisions that are causing your game experience to be unfun you should question it, preferably in front of your other corpmates. The purpose of leadership is to provide their players with fun, if they aren't failing to do that and you notice it is your responsibility to call their punk ass out. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
4208
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Posted - 2014.10.05 03:19:00 -
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There are lots of corps in EVE.
This means there are lots of excellent corps, and lots of really bad corps.
Whenever you find yourself in the latter, I recommend it is time to find another corp.
How to find the corp that is right for you - Version 3.0
I'm biased, but consistent: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5023385#post5023385 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4843211#post4843211 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4356971#post4356971 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4959993#post4959993 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4091604#post4091604 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4598980#post4598980 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4870107#post4870107
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3405
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Posted - 2014.10.05 03:40:00 -
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Removed an off topic post. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Fret Thiesant
The Imperial LansDrahd LOADED-DICE
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Posted - 2014.10.05 14:24:00 -
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Hi
Sounds like you are doing great so far.
Yes merc groups flying t3's can be....problematic to mining corps. Whether or not you could of fought back is determined by how many people were in your corp and what they were trained in.
Your CEO sounds like a nutter, you need to move all your stuff some where else and than quick corp.
I would suggest you may also want to recompense your time in that corp and being yelled at and spied upon by borrowing as many corp assets as you can once your stuff is moved out.
I would also suggest that you need not only look at hisec corps as a carear industrialist. There are many Null and some Low Sec corps recruiting, Null itself is very safe depending on the corps you join and your understanding of mechanics.
I wish you good luck sir. |
Lady Areola Fappington
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Posted - 2014.10.05 15:12:00 -
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Sounds like a grade A crap corp to be honest. It's that kind of stupidity that ends up poisoning newbies towards EVE.
Drop em like a bad habit, and find something better. This is a game, there's no need to treat it like a job, as your CEO seems intent to do.
If you're of a wicked mind, like me, take everything you can from the corp before you leave. There's also a wonderful gentleman named Cannibal Kane, you may be interested in contacting. Give him a link to this thread. He's quite good at "fixing" overblown CEOs. We don't call him "The End Boss of Highsec" for nuthin!
Either way, good luck in your hunt for a future better corp.
On second thought, don't quit the corp. Find a way to discreetly contact the guys wardeccing, and see if they wouldn't mind getting a "mole". Make some new friends that way, get revenge on twit CEO, and maybe even have a new corp to join up. Think EVE< Be devious! It isn't really hard, but I think there are customers that you can lose in a good way and there's customers that you can lose in a bad way. If people come in and fundamentally don't like EVE Online, then I think that might be a good way of losing customers. . -á--CCP Soundwave |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.05 15:34:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
On second thought, don't quit the corp. Find a way to discreetly contact the guys wardeccing, and see if they wouldn't mind getting a "mole". Make some new friends that way, get revenge on twit CEO, and maybe even have a new corp to join up. Think EVE< Be devious!
ill offer to contact the merks for you if you like, so nothing shows on the api (which you canceld right....RIGHT )
Or you could set up a trial and do so yourself. =]I[= |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2014.10.05 21:28:00 -
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We have been known to pay newbies outlandish quantities of money to help us kill their bros. |
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Gumby Taron
Blackwater USA Academy Violent Intent
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Posted - 2014.10.07 20:27:00 -
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As other's have said get far far faaaaaar away from this god awful corp and its leadership. Here's my advice. After 8 months you should have a half decent set of basic skills. Now join an established and able corp in lowsec or nullsec or WH with some reputation. Highsec corps with first timer CEO's are honestly the absolute worst part of this game. Get the hell out of highsec and you will enjoy this game ten fold. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
204
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Posted - 2014.10.18 02:23:00 -
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like others have said it sounds like the corp / CEO is a bad fit for you. I'd look around for something better. Random war decs on high sec corps are common yes but perma war decs are not. Find a group of people that you get along with and have fun playing with. Don't stick with a corp with a emo rage control freak of a CEO unless you like that kinda thing.
One tip that I can give is that I've noticed that when ever my CEO would post in the recruitment forums we'd get war deced. I think a lot of high sec griefer corps search the forums for mission running and mining corps that don't seem to have any PvP skills. You might be better off talking to people in local chat rather than finding a corp that is advertising that it's looking for new members since that will often draw in griefer decs.
That being said you still can find a good corp that is advertising but they'll have to stop advertising as some point and hopefully the war decs will stop shortly after that. Just make sure the CEO does not plan on permanently being in an active recruiting state.
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Lan Wang
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
102
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Posted - 2014.10.18 09:12:00 -
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Trixi Audeles wrote:Quote:IMO The best corp would be a corp that carebears when they can, but don't mind getting their hands (and guns) dirty when the need arises. It will also filter out those that really want to be in the corp (those will stick through a war and pick up a frigate to fight back, if needed a bunch of frigates) I agree with that. I have actually had a lot of fun in war fleets. But I have also seen it cross the line where the corp values the PvP so high you start to wonder what type of corp it is.
99.9% of the time undocking a frigate to fight mercs is just another way to provide content for the mercs and remain an easy target in turn always remain wardecced, they dont want a fair and even fight they want easy targets
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
The Conference Elite CODE.
1084
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Posted - 2014.10.19 11:38:00 -
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Trixi Audeles wrote:Quote: Quote:Quote:- Do most corps have so many strict rules enforced through constant API monitoring? I understand the need to avoid a spy or corporate thief, but it is a little disconcerting when you get "in trouble" for something you could only know by inspecting your API. can you elaborate on this please? Sure... here are some situations that seem weird to me: Being told that they know I have enough ISK to build a certain PvP ship according to their published doctrines. Like I might want to only risk a T1 ship in an in-advised roam, but they want T2 ships. (This is in a nonPvP corp keep in mind) Having comments made on TS about what I have under research or am currently manufacturing, as if it was common knowledge Questioned about an innocent e-mail sent to an ex corp member Being "caught" running missions during a wardec because my journal shows bounties I'm one of the most vocal proponents of using API's to supplement corp security, but this is a massive invasion of privacy. Get out of this corp immediately. If they're asking that stuff, they're very probably very proficient with corp security, and I would be wondering if there is someone in the corp with some experience in the more nefarious sides of eve. I've never seen that situation before, and I would be very worried about other players taking advantage of your asset locations or market movements. Kill the API immediately, and get out of the corp. If you want, send me a mail in game, and I'll see if I can find someplace that fits your play style. It sounds like you've had a difficult start, but have the potential to stick it out in this game. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1562
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Posted - 2014.10.19 23:02:00 -
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Trixi Audeles wrote: The CEO sent out an e-mail rant about how much he has sacrificed for the corp and we are ungrateful and we better all start logging in or else. It seems that in recent weeks (if not months) the CEO is always yelling at us for : - Not volunteering enough to run events - Being stupid and losing ships - Caring too much about personal wealth and not enough about the corporation wealth - Saying anything in local - Talking to anyone out of corp without a diplo - Having a skill queue that does not benefit the corp goals
Wow what a complete waste of carbon. I'll get to that in a bit. Interesting read and kudos for sticking with Eve despite your hardships. You will go a long way.
Trixi Audeles wrote:Is it always the policy in corps that if you undock during a wardec and lose a ship you are yelled at for "making things worse?" In other words is the logic that losing ships encourage extending the wardecs true and correct? This would imply that you sit in your station or not log into the game during the wardec. While the logic is correct (decs extended because of losses) I believe a corporation should hand you the knowledge, and if needed tools, to properly survive a wardec period with a minimum of losses. It basicly comes down to making sure newbies don't need to to to a trade hub for every little thing, explain how to fit for travel, etcetera. But to be yelled at, no, this is not the norm. This is the domain of emotionally unstable people.
Trixi Audeles wrote:I can't be alone is wanting to log in every night, join a TS channel, optionally join an incursion fleet or mission fleet, or just talk eve mechanics while I do my own thing. Sometimes coordinate on some industry, have a mining/beer night, talk ship fits, etc. Something fun and easy going? A corp with low drama but also with enough size and stability that it won't implode every time there is the slightest problem? Find friends in lowsec mate. Go blow up ships and do lowsec stuff for money. You'll die a lot more in the beginning because of noobdom but most lowsec corp won't care. They'll check your lossmail and give you a few pointers. You have had some terrible luck with your CEO's as you'd have to lose over a bil being stupid to even make me flinch. Welp cruisers all day erryday I say, losses and failure are lessons and as long as you learn them while playing you make progress.
You can flip the profitability of wardecs by operating in lowsec as none of the established "hisec merc" groups have the numbers or the audacity to operate there full force. Even Eve University is more dangerous then them. If you want proof of that statement, we had an offensive war against Uni that closed a little in their favour with more then 4b damages on both sides. A (defensive) war with Marmite just ended with 0 kills on both sides. Without further judging the activities of either we can deduct your CEO was not fighting the gravest threat hisec has to offer, and had no reason to take out his frustration on people by yelling at them. I really want to make a case that is is abnormal, and people doing this route should do well to leave Eve for what it is and take up a more relaxing hobby. |
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
329
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Posted - 2014.10.20 07:23:00 -
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Frankly it sounds like your CEO has control issues and wants to keep everything under his control but it doesn't work that way, not in the long run at least. If I were you would do as others have said , get your stuff out, expire your API codes and leave the corp and find a better one. |
Bastion Arzi
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
134
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Posted - 2014.10.20 10:40:00 -
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you joined at an unfortunate time, stuff like this does happen though - a similar thing happened to me.
That being said there are good, well established, organised corps/alliances out there that wont implode a few weeks after you join.
good luck in finding one.
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Velarra
324
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Posted - 2014.10.20 23:55:00 -
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Please kill your API and leave your corp. 'Grats on sticking through this rather unfortunate new player experience.
Welcome to Eve.
Updating this thread with regard to the final outcome of your issues here would be kinda cool too.
o7 |
William Ruben
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
65
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Posted - 2014.10.21 03:12:00 -
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Baneken wrote:Frankly it sounds like your CEO has control issues and wants to keep everything under his control but it doesn't work that way, not in the long run at least. If I were you would do as others have said , get your stuff out, expire your API codes and leave the corp and find a better one. This.
EVE is made by the people you play with. |
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