| Pages: 1 [2] :: one page |
|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Matori Kar
   |
Posted - 2006.08.10 21:12:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
Originally by: Matori Kar
Hmm
1: Insurance should not be paid out to concord kills.
2: CCP should develop smuggling and black market stuff further...it would be handy to be able to counter scanners effectively, or hide partial cargos from scanner detection.
Every action has a reaction. If you introduced modules or skills that allowed you to smuggle, others would train skills/fit modules to help them see through your trick.
Very true  hmmhmmm, requires a little more thought then doesn't it  although the effort and time needed to train the detection skills may deter some people, and at least make people who want to empire gank in this way put some extra effort into gaining the ability to do so..
|
Mra Rednu
|
Posted - 2006.08.10 21:18:00 -
[32]
I'd like to comment on the 'kill rights'.
I have kill rights on a character with 2.25 yrs in game, and a security status of -10.0. Sure, I got those rights from wandering into a section of space that I probably should have avoided. But, do you think I'll ever get an opportunity to exercise those rights? Nope. Never.
In my case, those 'kill rights' are actually satirizing the concept.
|
Deja Thoris
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
|
Posted - 2006.08.10 21:19:00 -
[33]
Wars / mission ship losses are responsible for more ship losses than "noob gankers"
When presenting "facts" at least make sure they are accurate and credible.
|
Red Ochre
|
Posted - 2006.08.10 21:26:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Krulla
These kind of people amuse me.
You do realize that if you get ganked in empire you get kill rights on the pirate for 2 months, right? So, the next time you see them sitting at a gate doing their thing, you are free to gank them all you want.
But no. That would be too hard. It's a lot easier to whine instead.
People who do high sec ganks (myself included) have MASSIVE kill rights lists. Many have 30+. Yet people very very rarely bother to retaliate.
CCP has given you the tools to avoid being killed, and the tools to get even if you do get killed. Use them instead of whining like the lazy git you are.
quote
"CCP has given you the tools to avoid being killed, and the tools to get even if you do get killed. Use them instead of whining like the lazy git you are.",quote. haha rich.
your type amuse me krulla. a self confessed whinepirate, lots of your type around in .4 systems and hi sec.
so let me get this straight hero, (this is sarcasm if your that dimwitted by the way krulla) the person gets ganked, gets kill rights and can then do what?
gank you and the gang with you? fire once and then get destroyed by you since you can fire back now? try to destroy you and then get smoked by you (think the obvious if you must) see a trend there hero?
before you post in simplistic terms...pie....rat, pull that hunk o cheese from your mouth, breathe, let your eyes unglaze, and think before you post. 
 this needs to be placed in the proper forum. |
ChanibintLiet
|
Posted - 2006.08.10 21:28:00 -
[35]
It really dosn't matter what ccp dose to make it harder on Gankers, they will always find a way to work around or through the system to get what they want. Some people just don't care if they get concorded. thats half the fun for them. i talked to a guy in local one nite who was shooting at people coming out of a station if they didn't warp off as soon as they could. he had been doign this for about an hour or so when I logged on and had been blown up 4 or 5 times when i went over to the station to watch him. sure enough, when the timer ran out, he came out and waited for someone to undock and shot them. he flashed red once or twice and pow! he was in a pod. we chated awhile in local until it was time for him to do it again. he did. he just didn't care if he got popped.
A few weeks ago i was moving several loads of stuff in my hauler through Jita and rn accross a group who had a Gank camp going on. every time I came to the gte, One of them would send me a gang inivite. the gang invite stated that the inviting party was at war. Since i did not know the person i declined the invite. after severl trips through this gate and getting an invite each time, I asked the guy what was up. the guy was kinda vague when it came to anserign my questions but i managed to figure out what was going on anyway. seems him and his friends created an Alt corp, they War deq'ed the alt corp with their main corp and he was inviting people at the gate to gng with him, making those people instant war targets for him and his friends in the main corp. After figureing this out, I askd him how many suckers they pop with this scam. i think his rely was around 70 or 80 total, includign several Battleships and crusers and a buttload of haulers. some time during the conversation he said had just gotten concorded and lost his BS. I laughed and told him Carma is a B!tch, aint it.
Still, this guy and his friends were doing quite well for them selves ganking people in jita working with in the system with little or no repercusions.
Others use can swaps to either steal from miners or pick a fight with them when they try to get their stuff back.
I'm sure that there are fare more scams out there that I don't know about that let people work the system. Just what do ou think ccp can do about it with out screwing over everyone just to punish a few who will find a way to work around the problem and work the system again to their faver?
|
Lustralis
|
Posted - 2006.08.10 21:36:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Mra Rednu
I'd like to comment on the 'kill rights'.
I have kill rights on a character with 2.25 yrs in game, and a security status of -10.0. Sure, I got those rights from wandering into a section of space that I probably should have avoided. But, do you think I'll ever get an opportunity to exercise those rights? Nope. Never.
In my case, those 'kill rights' are actually satirizing the concept.
However, if you were allowed to trade those kill-rights, a whole more interesting set of circumstances might present themselves. CCP got it 1/2 right, but as usual (and I mean EVERY SINGLE TIME), managed to implement a 1/2 arsed system that could have been so much better. 
|
Minmatar Slave569
|
Posted - 2006.08.10 21:42:00 -
[37]
No, When Im in high Sec the Noobs try and gank me and get concorded when I out fly them to their Rat Cans.
|
Guillame Herschel
|
Posted - 2006.08.10 21:53:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Matori Kar
2: CCP should develop smuggling and black market stuff further...it would be handy to be able to counter scanners effectively, or hide partial cargos from scanner detection.
1. Put item on escrow with short timeout.
2. Allow escrow to timeout.
3. Item is returned to your hangar in bubble wrap and cardboard box.
4. Scanners can't see through cardboard and bubble wrap. Strange, but true.
|
Down Range
|
Posted - 2006.08.10 22:09:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Guillame Herschel
Originally by: Matori Kar
2: CCP should develop smuggling and black market stuff further...it would be handy to be able to counter scanners effectively, or hide partial cargos from scanner detection.
1. Put item on escrow with short timeout.
2. Allow escrow to timeout.
3. Item is returned to your hangar in bubble wrap and cardboard box.
4. Scanners can't see through cardboard and bubble wrap. Strange, but true.
And yet you still can't put anything "illegal" on escrow and therefore still can't use this for "smuggling" in the traditional sense.
|
Christopher Dalran
|
Posted - 2006.08.10 22:38:00 -
[40]
Edited by: Christopher Dalran on 10/08/2006 22:40:20
Ive collected on kill rights once, and thats because its nigh impossible to actually find the person again later. Unless its someone that frequently pirates in a system i Visit chances are i will never see them again.
I did actually get suicide ganked once, The only reason i was upset was that he used a second account to pick up my loot in a hauler and because concord did not flag that second account they managed to get away and dock at the station before i could get back despite having a cruiser in the system.
Another solution, CCP could hire staff to play concord and pro-activly go after people that are manipulating the system. Lets face it, when you program AI it can only react to what it is programmed for. Hiring staff to play as concord (and i do not mean offering this to players, i mean actually hire and pay people to do this) would say allow concord to catch people that twist and manipulate the rules.
Oh and can CCP insure my car? I;d like to drive it off a cliff and get more than i paid for it.
|
|
|
Taaketa Frist
The Praxis Initiative
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
|
Posted - 2006.08.10 22:45:00 -
[41]
Hi sec gankers do one and one thing only to make sure that its worth killing you.
And that is scan your cargo hold.
If you use cans to hide your items in they won't shoot you. Simply because its not worth the risk (especially considering that even if theres valuable items in the can the can and all the items within it has a 50% of being destroyed)
--------------
Dang nabit |
Darkrydar
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
|
Posted - 2006.08.10 22:55:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Krulla
These kind of people amuse me.
You do realize that if you get ganked in empire you get kill rights on the pirate for 2 months, right? So, the next time you see them sitting at a gate doing their thing, you are free to gank them all you want.
But no. That would be too hard. It's a lot easier to whine instead.
People who do high sec ganks (myself included) have MASSIVE kill rights lists. Many have 30+. Yet people very very rarely bother to retaliate.
CCP has given you the tools to avoid being killed, and the tools to get even if you do get killed. Use them instead of whining like the lazy git you are.
QFT X 100
Also, in regards to the (stupid) comment about insurance and trying to draw a RL parallel, I don;t think your car is made of trit (unless its made in korea?) or has a warp drive fit to it either. Its a game not RL.
|
Darkrydar
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
|
Posted - 2006.08.10 22:58:00 -
[43]
As for killrights, this fits into my cojcept for bounty hunting changes. My idea would be for post Kli when the contract system is in place. You could put a contract on someones head and a bountyhunter could claim your killrights and you'd pay him X amount of isk to kill him. I have a lot more ideas o how to make it a real profession ingame, but they will wait until after kali and the contracts get worked out.
|
Makaylah
Caldari
Infinite Technologies
|
Posted - 2006.08.10 23:09:00 -
[44]
I'm sure this has been mentioned before but I can't be bothered to read it all at this hour :/
Some tips to up your survival rate:
- Don't fly around with cargo that's obviously worth more than 100 mil Isk if you're using a crappy hauler (yes, your uber cargo expanders DO count)
- Don't go AFK while otw to the hub system "cause it's safe"
- Actually fit a tank, nanofibers and 2 WCS.
- Use insta's
- If you're rich enough to haul 100+ mil around, you're rich enough to buy a Transport ship
- If you DO have to haul valuable cargo, don't do it solo but have a scout 1 jump ahead of you.
- If you can't use a Transport yet it's better to haul valuable cargo in segments, first of all you're less of a target because you don't have the full value on board per trip and when things DO go wrong you didn't lose all your stuff, 'just' a part of it which can be considered tutoring money.
----------
Trading is my game, if you need something contact me. |
Angellyne
|
Posted - 2006.08.10 23:09:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Darkrydar
Its a game not RL.
It's a discussion forum, not a game.
P.S. Can I sell "Everybody Knows That" T-shirts at the next "Guys Who Like to Say It's Just A Game" convention?
His point, I'm sure, is that when people get insurance payouts for suiciding ships, it's somewhat immersion-breaking. It doesn't have to be reality, but (like most games) the more consistent it is with reality, the more fun it is.
And I'm sure I didn't need to explain that, but for some reason "it's just a game" makes me want to explain things that seem bleeding obvious.
|
eLLioTT wave
Art of War
|
Posted - 2006.08.11 02:40:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Mra Rednu
I'd like to comment on the 'kill rights'.
I have kill rights on a character with 2.25 yrs in game, and a security status of -10.0. Sure, I got those rights from wandering into a section of space that I probably should have avoided. But, do you think I'll ever get an opportunity to exercise those rights? Nope. Never.
In my case, those 'kill rights' are actually satirizing the concept.
Never know your luck, i undocked one day when i was less than a month old and saw a -10 pirate in his pod flying towoard the station without instas.... now if i had of known about sec status and what not i would have quickly collected on his bounty :)
You know they can't take any ship bigger than a shuttle into empire right?
One change i would like to see in all this, is once you go past -8 sec status you may NEVER return. Think of it as being banned from empire from your crimes against humanity. Instead of this pirate option currently to go do missions and ratting and get their sec status back up so they can do some high sec pirating (slow as it may be to do) - they should be forced to live with their actions for the rest of their eve life.
maybe not even -8, maybe -5?
|
Android Mindslave
Gallente
Mindworks Unlimited
|
Posted - 2006.08.11 05:44:00 -
[47]
------------------- Press Release -------------------------
The newly formed Mindworks Unlimited Corp would like to announce that it is creating a new 'special weapons development and deployment' division.
The new division will devote resources to developing means of manipulating 'noob gestalt fields'. After an initial survey of empire local and the forums, our scientists believe that the technology and methodology can be developed to use manipulator agents to focus the newly discovered and highly volitile 'boo-hoo-hoo' energies generated by these fields into controled applications.
It is a known fact that Concord and Polaris vessles are effectively impervious to all known conventional weapons. However, we belive that our new weapons technologies will be able to fully defeat any Concord or Polaris defensive capabilities by deploying streams focused and harmonized streams of 'whine'. Think of our new weapons as lasers, but instead of the coordinated delivery of a stream of photonic energy that agitate matter until its bonds disintigrate, our weapons will deliver focused and coordinated stream of angst filled keystrokes that will agitate the mind of the target until its capability to maintain logical and rational thinking is obliterated.
|
Arkanor
Gallente
The Scope
|
Posted - 2006.08.11 06:12:00 -
[48]
Are they broken or something?
Originally by: Ghosthowl
WoW = hardcore paladins smashin dat face.
Originally by: HippoKing
I just cried, you know that? |
|
|
| |
|
| Pages: 1 [2] :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |