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Mervent Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.10 19:52:00 - [1] I am fighting rats in Amarr space. What damage type would work best? Also is there a damage type that is universally weak towards with all the NPC pirate factions? Thanks. Vespa II - kinetic damage 12 HP - shield capacity 250 - armor hp 211 Valkyrie II - explosive damage 12 HP - shield capacity 154 - armor hp 230 Infiltrator II - em damage 12 HP - shield capacity 96 - armor hp 288 Hammerhead II - thermal damage 12 HP - shield capacity 134 - armor hp 288
Imode Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.10 19:55:00 - [2] Nothing universal, but if you're fighting Bloods and Sansha, Infiltrators and Hammerheads are what you want. If you're fighting Angels, then maybe Valkyries and Vespas. ____________________________ Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes
Maya Rkell Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2006.08.10 19:56:00 - [3] Against Sanshas and Bloods, you want to be doing EM damage. And no, the type you want varies per "racial varient" rat...there are allways different good and bad choices (Sansha and Angel are both Amarr-derived, but say Angels are Minmatar derived and have different resistances).
schurem Anarchy Inc. Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2006.08.10 20:00:00 - [4] Direct your igb to npc.elfarto.com and find out the lowest resist of the rat you'll be facing. Thats the drone you want. <<<< No Boundaries, No Fences, Fly Free* Or Die Trying* >>>> Typhoon for the win. Nastier than whats faster, faster than whats nastier!
Mervent Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.10 20:00:00 - [5] Thank you for the quick replies.
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.10 20:03:00 - [6] Optimal drones against rats: Angels - EXP drones Blood Raiders - TH drones Guristas - KIN drones Sansha - TH drones Serpentis - TH drones These are the optimum drones accoding to which drones deal most damage to the rats. Please bear in mind that the Amarrian, EMP damage, drones are the worst drones in game, both slow and does the least damage so inspite of Sansha, for example, having lower EM resistance than TH resistance the TH drones will deal more damage. Dark skies torn apart Heavens open before me I, the light of death
Maya Rkell Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2006.08.10 20:04:00 - [7] Ah, and statting it out does help :P BUT, Hammerhead II's are stupidly overpriced and not worth buying.
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.10 20:05:00 - [8] Oh, and here's what you missed in original post Originally by: Mervent Vespa II - kinetic damage 12 HP - damage modifier 1.45 x - shield capacity 250 - armor hp 211 Valkyrie II - explosive damage 12 HP - damage modifier 1.3 x - shield capacity 154 - armor hp 230 Infiltrator II - em damage 12 HP - damage modifier 1.1 x - shield capacity 96 - armor hp 288 Hammerhead II - thermal damage 12 HP - damage modifier 1.6 x - shield capacity 134 - armor hp 288 Dark skies torn apart Heavens open before me I, the light of death
Farjung Gallente Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.10 20:08:00 - [9] Edited by: Farjung on 10/08/2006 20:08:45 Originally by: Maya Rkell Against Sanshas and Bloods, you want to be doing EM damage. Thermal drones do 39% more raw dps than EM drones. A blood patriatch (1.7 mill bounty bs) has EM resist of 48% on shield and armor, thermal resist of 58%. So a thermal drone will do 12% more dps to a blood patriarch than an em drone on shield and armor. Edit: busy busy Ith! --- Wave of Mutilation 2
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.10 20:12:00 - [10] Edited by: Ithildin on 10/08/2006 20:14:39 Void Dark skies torn apart Heavens open before me I, the light of death
Farjung Gallente Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.10 20:14:00 - [11] EM drones have a damage multiplier of 1.15 ;) --- Wave of Mutilation 2
Nhrdyx	Posted - 2006.08.10 20:15:00 - [12] I used 5 Infiltrator II's with my Thorax and I use them with my Dominix when facing fast frigate class ships (still training for tech 2 lg drones). I chose Infiltrators for the EM damage that my hybrid guns are lacking. I haven't 'graduated' to changing my loadout depending on which NPC faction I am facing. Eventually I'll mix in some non EM damage drones as I rely on my battleship guns less than my t2 large drones.
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.10 20:16:00 - [13] Originally by: Nhrdyx I used 5 Infiltrator II's with my Thorax and I use them with my Dominix when facing fast frigate class ships (still training for tech 2 lg drones). I chose Infiltrators for the EM damage that my hybrid guns are lacking. I haven't 'graduated' to changing my loadout depending on which NPC faction I am facing. Eventually I'll mix in some non EM damage drones as I rely on my battleship guns less than my t2 large drones. Try EXP drones instead - EXP drones deal more damage and are also a lot faster than any other drone. Dark skies torn apart Heavens open before me I, the light of death
Nyxus GALAXIAN	Posted - 2006.08.10 20:18:00 - [14] Originally by: Ithildin Edited by: Ithildin on 10/08/2006 20:14:39 Void frantically makes notes of this for the next "Amarrian Whine Update" megapost. TYVM. I always knew it was big. I never realized there was THAT much difference. Nyxus Originally by: Tux The thought of a missile spewing armor tanking cool black looking ship makes me happy in the pants
kessah Caldari Blood Corsairs	Posted - 2006.08.10 20:18:00 - [15] Amarr drones need a major boost tbfh, most always fit up with the Gallente ones or Matari. -------------------------------------------------------- Forever Pirate
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.10 20:21:00 - [16] Originally by: Nyxus Originally by: Ithildin Edited by: Ithildin on 10/08/2006 20:14:39 Void frantically makes notes of this for the next "Amarrian Whine Update" megapost. TYVM. I always knew it was big. I never realized there was THAT much difference. Nyxus Well, it's just drone damage. I always thought it was silly/stupid of CCP to name them after the different civilizations. Sends the completely wrong message, it does, does it not? Dark skies torn apart Heavens open before me I, the light of death
Clavius XIV Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.10 20:50:00 - [17] Originally by: kessah Amarr drones need a major boost tbfh, most always fit up with the Gallente ones or Matari. There's not much you can do with them really. Em is a horrible damage type to be doing generally + when you combine with guns, your guns get shots in before drones arrive, so usually they won't even help strip shields. You could give them insane tracking, just to give them some advantage over other drones, but I don't think that would improve them enough to encourage their general use. But really they are Amarr drones, so of course they will be underdogs .
Clavius XIV Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.10 20:55:00 - [18] Originally by: Ithildin Originally by: Nyxus frantically makes notes of this for the next "Amarrian Whine Update" megapost. TYVM. I always knew it was big. I never realized there was THAT much difference. Nyxus Well, it's just drone damage. I always thought it was silly/stupid of CCP to name them after the different civilizations. Sends the completely wrong message, it does, does it not? Well the drones attempt to match the racial charactaristics of their race in things beyond damage type Minimitar - fastest lower dps Caldari - slowest, highest shields Gallente - slow, highest damage Amarr - Highest armor, decent speed I'm just thankful the initial idea of giving the Arbitrator just a EM damage drone bonus was scrapped with the drone changes..

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