If you think that all it takes to be safe in a carrier on a lowsec gate is to triage for one cycle, you are sorely mistaken.

Hint: there these ships called dreadnaughts or even a nice little herocat fleet augmented by bombers.

Hint: Bombs don't work in LowSec.

Hint: Bombs don't work in LowSec.

Double Hint: its called T2 torpedos shooting a suspect capital ship possibly criminal or pulling a trick shot warping to a bookmark or nearby piece, warping back and flipping off the gate guns that can now do fudge all about them while each one cranks 700+ DPS on the carrier with the signature of a small child

It would take a good 4 minutes for 50 bombers to kill an archon, and a bit more than 5 minutes to kill it with 40 bombers.
If your fleet is only composed of bombers you cannot bump the carrier off the gate, thus it can choose to not go into triage and just wait for the deaggression. In that case you'd need 113 bombers to kill it in under 1 minute.

That's assuming that the carrier pilot does not have scouts and has not seen the fleet coming.

if you read the post you quoted above i beleive it says "Herocat Fleet Supported by Bombers"
Hmmm what was this about not being able to do anything again? Because we saw the herocat fleet kill caps solo, add bombers? i think i will let that speak for itself

You do realize how many times that has already happened right?
Does the word providence ring a bell? Or Faction warfare space within hotdrop range?

and the exact same shiet will keep happening, except now they will get caught and killed on gates too
Look at how long eve has been going almost 11 years later and we still have ALODS Daily, stupid decisions, and textbook mistakes from veterans.
If you think making carrier jump gates is going to change this well then prepare for non consentual sexy time at some point in time

no, they will just jump through the stargate

Yep totally going to be able to burn 15k back to the gate in a carrier, which on its own moves at the relative speed of a rusted out pregnant bathtub, im sure they dont have webs or the ability to bump me out of alignment and kill me before i make it. Oh wait im going to die? SUPER DUPER TRIAGE MODE! Oh wait im being nueted and cant move now, might as well self destruct.

Its literally no different than bumping them off station and killing them, which the herocat fleet does very well, You really should look up what these were meant to do, they killed supers with them without dread support, it is Designed to kill caps very efficently, even on stations or gates.

plus if they think your going to make it 1 guy keeps you pointed, everyone de-agresses and then jumps through with you or sends a few guys to catch you on the other side, you align in about 20 seconds, and it only takes a disruptor to stop it all, and if you say Ill fit all warp core stabs
Well then you definently died on the other side of the gate, you had no chance

How about: jump through the stargate -> activate jump drive -> safety.

You once again forgot that when you decloak theres a timer before you can jump again, a titan could lock you and point you before you jumped same way you cant light cyno the second you land due to magnetic calibration

This post is about the next expansion that will make it possible for carrier to use stargates.

How about: jump through the stargate -> activate jump drive -> safety.

I'll bite.


You aren't hard tackling this cap on the gate before it launches.

So what if it does something funky like.....warp to celestial, let cap regen happen cloaked and then hit next gate. Basically what they do now with cap heavy travel fits and laying low at safes.



Secomnd question is....what cap need do you have in mind? Since this is based on overcoming the field of a jump drive....blops says look at my bpc, and see what I have inside my ship. If you go flat rate, and say less than 50% of ship cap....blops average cap would be that lowest cap needed. Which a cap should have no problems. And you'd just be screwing over blops really .

you understand that a carriers aligning speed is that of a turtle and the same goes for accelerating and warping. so unless they fail dramaticly that carrier is a pinata and dies

no, as someone who has lost a carrier helping a friend with his carrier in low, you can run the carrier off the ate by bumping, you can kill their cap. cap ships are far from invincible

Ok bro, since you obviously are not a PVP veteran let me explain this to you. Carriers will NOT be invincible.

Even in triage mode 40 bombers will annihilate you in short order. 40 bombers putting out 700 dps each is 28000 DPS. That is the same as having roughly 3-4 dreads pound on you. Even in triage, you're going to struggle enormously.

What does that mean? It means that in addition to the neuting the enemy fleet will undoubtedly be hitting you with you will be using your own cap trying to rep yourself. So even if you DID make it out of triage and jump. And even if they DIDNT deagress and catch you immediately on the otherside. YOU CANNOT JUMP! Because you DO NOT HAVE JUMP CAP!

That being said, they're probably going to catch you. Good luck trying to slowboat back to that gate or even surviving the first 3 minutes of the fight. Post your loss plox.

A cheap and well fitted archon will have 4.5 million EHP, good luck going through that "in short order".