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Arron S Gallente Rampage Eternal	Posted - 2006.08.11 08:13:00 - [1] I'm bloodly well getting sick and tired of losing ships to lag in this game... I was happly ratting away when all of a sudden my moduals would not respawned to anything(I had just entred into a belt with a triple BS spawn) So I thought this would only last for about 4-5 secands, then everything would be back to normal. So after about 20 secands I start getting scared becuase nothing is respawnding, I can't get my repper's going or get any of my drones out. So After a minute I decide I should logg becuase my ship mite warp out... I logg back in and now I am in a Pod. What should I do? Petition it? I petitions about a ship loss 20 days ago and CCP has done nothing, Probably because they just don't give a **. So I petitioned it under other... becuase I mite get a respons faster, Probably they GM will tell me to ** off and go wait six months if I petitiion it properly. Like I have 6 months to wait for a new ship replacement and Like i have the ISK to replace my lost ship right now... So I site here and wait... I am serouisy thinking of writing a arngy letter to a few major gamming magazines about how CCP treats it users, and give them the cold shoulder becuase they arn't in BoB.
Cadman Weyland Millennium E.R.A	Posted - 2006.08.11 08:18:00 - [2] There is no lag Director of Bubbles and Noobs
spurious signal Caldari Brainiacs	Posted - 2006.08.11 08:19:00 - [3] Firsty, petitions are in a looooooong queue at the moment. If you look at the sticky posts at the top of the forum there've been one saying that staff are away on holiday at the moment. Also there have been a lot of server issues over the last month or so which adds to the long petition queue. Have patience, it takes a lot longer than 3 weeks to get an answer usually. Secondly, never fly anything you can't afford to lose. Thirdly, NEVER FLY ANYTHING YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE. Most important rule in EVE tbh, if you ignore it then you have only yourself to blame.
Arron S Gallente Rampage Eternal	Posted - 2006.08.11 08:24:00 - [4] I could afford to replace it, the fact is it would take me 2-6 hours to buy a new ship in empire get fitting for it and take it to 0.0(5-6 hours that I could be ratting) and then risk taking it across 0.0. and if there a hostile gate camp that would add on a few more hours.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.11 08:25:00 - [5] Originally by: Arron S I am serouisy thinking of writing a arngy letter to a few major gamming magazines about how CCP treats it users, and give them the cold shoulder becuase they arn't in BoB. Ohnoes, BoB are CCP, h4x. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Miss Overlord	Posted - 2006.08.11 08:25:00 - [6] ask for elevation to a senior GM - they have to react then
spurious signal Caldari Brainiacs	Posted - 2006.08.11 08:26:00 - [7] Originally by: Arron S I could afford to replace it, the fact is it would take me 2-6 hours to buy a new ship in empire get fitting for it and take it to 0.0(5-6 hours that I could be ratting) and then risk taking it across 0.0. and if there a hostile gate camp that would add on a few more hours. So why did you say in your original post: Originally by: Arron S Like I have 6 months to wait for a new ship replacement and Like i have the ISK to replace my lost ship right now... So I site here and wait... /me awaits the lock for pointless ranting.
Arron S Gallente Rampage Eternal	Posted - 2006.08.11 08:27:00 - [8] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Arron S I am serouisy thinking of writing a arngy letter to a few major gamming magazines about how CCP treats it users, and give them the cold shoulder becuase they arn't in BoB. Ohnoes, BoB are CCP, h4x. Go copy some Book marks in the middle of a fleet battle.
Sulavan	Posted - 2006.08.11 08:27:00 - [9] Originally by: Arron S I'm bloodly well getting sick and tired of losing ships to lag in this game... I was happly ratting away when all of a sudden my moduals would not respawned to anything(I had just entred into a belt with a triple BS spawn) So I thought this would only last for about 4-5 secands, then everything would be back to normal. So after about 20 secands I start getting scared becuase nothing is respawnding, I can't get my repper's going or get any of my drones out. So After a minute I decide I should logg becuase my ship mite warp out... I logg back in and now I am in a Pod. What should I do? Petition it? I petitions about a ship loss 20 days ago and CCP has done nothing, Probably because they just don't give a **. So I petitioned it under other... becuase I mite get a respons faster, Probably they GM will tell me to ** off and go wait six months if I petitiion it properly. Like I have 6 months to wait for a new ship replacement and Like i have the ISK to replace my lost ship right now... So I site here and wait... I am serouisy thinking of writing a arngy letter to a few major gamming magazines about how CCP treats it users, and give them the cold shoulder becuase they arn't in BoB. First rule: If the systems laggy. Don't put your ship at risk (don't go ratting for example). You are responsible for your gaming experience. Second Rule: Don't fly something you can't afford to lose. Its a simple maxim but often overlooked. Third Rule: If your petition takes a while to answer. Wait longer. Sending in another petition just makes the queue longer. Thus just DELAYS petitions, it does NOT make them looked at faster! Fourth Rule: If you're angry about something. Log out. Take a deep breath. If thats not enough, walk away from your computer for a while. Once you've calmed down, THEN think about petitioning the GMs. People on the forums can not do anything, so ranting here serves no purpose other than to be flame bait.
Xanidra	Posted - 2006.08.11 08:34:00 - [10] Originally by: Arron S I am serouisy thinking of writing a arngy letter to a few major gamming magazines about how CCP treats it users, and give them the cold shoulder becuase they arn't in BoB. that will get you where you want and like above poster; DON'T fly stuff you cant afford to lose. oh and if you can, upgrade you line(ISP) to a buisness line. The improved contention ratio reduced lag no end. Xan
Mirasta Caldari Enigma Enterprises Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.11 09:20:00 - [11] Originally by: Arron S Originally by: Avon Originally by: Arron S I am serouisy thinking of writing a arngy letter to a few major gamming magazines about how CCP treats it users, and give them the cold shoulder becuase they arn't in BoB. Ohnoes, BoB are CCP, h4x. Go copy some Book marks in the middle of a fleet battle. If you dient flame him meby he would bump your petition up the que, being a GM/CCP employee and all.
Sean Dillon Caldari Shadows of the Dead Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.08.11 10:05:00 - [12] CCP doesn't give a damn about lagg, 1 week ago in the siege of c-j6 there were 250 ppl in a system with crazy lagg. Even with a gm in system they failed to fix the lagg, they could have put it on a different node the next day. But they did nothing. Lagg will always happen in this game live with it. CCP doesn't care atleast.
Sulavan	Posted - 2006.08.11 10:20:00 - [13] Originally by: Sean Dillon CCP doesn't give a damn about lagg, 1 week ago in the siege of c-j6 there were 250 ppl in a system with crazy lagg. Even with a gm in system they failed to fix the lagg, they could have put it on a different node the next day. But they did nothing. Lagg will always happen in this game live with it. CCP doesn't care atleast. If you're going to say things like that, please try and have some understanding of what you're claiming. Just because there was a GM there, doesn't mean they could actually "fix" the problem. As has been stated, server resource can only be reassigned during down time.
D'Mur Pilru	Posted - 2006.08.11 10:23:00 - [14] Edited by: D''Mur Pilru on 11/08/2006 10:22:59 Originally by: Sulavan First rule: If the systems laggy. Don't put your ship at risk (don't go ratting for example). You are responsible for your gaming experience. Hahahahahaha, you so funny. So I get sold a game (really, I pay for it) that claims to be a big universe with hundreds of systems. Alas, you can only use a few, as the rest don't work properly? Debiting my account works fine though. Puhlezeee... edited for spelling
Rev GigLeCarp	Posted - 2006.08.11 10:24:00 - [15] Europeans have to go on "holiday" at least one week per month or they will go crazy. This is because their weather sucks, their food is bad, and their women are hairy. I, as an American, am sympathetic with their predicament. Do not blame CCP's GMs for going on vacation(err sorry, "holiday"), blame them for being too cheap to hire replacements!
Taaketa Frist The Praxis Initiative Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.11 10:24:00 - [16] Set long skill training for a month. Unsubscribe for a month. Go play something else, return. -------------- Dang nabit
Rangkai	Posted - 2006.08.11 10:33:00 - [17] When you write that angry letter, be sure to use a spell check. :) I've had that happen to me before.. I don't know what causes it but the second i am hitting a module and it is not responding.. I immediately log out of the game and hope my ship warps off quickly.
Kastar Chronodynamics	Posted - 2006.08.11 10:44:00 - [18] Edited by: Kastar on 11/08/2006 10:45:43 *"their women are hairy"* ... this really hurt me you know. But then again, in Iceland that's a perfectly reasononable evolutionary step to protect nature's subjects from the terrible cold To the OP... your loss is inconvenient, that's all. There's always time to recover on your own. -----------------------------------------------
voodoo Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.11 10:55:00 - [19] I think everyone should know where this guys coming from. If you havent lossed a ship due to lag then i wonder what station you sit in all day. Everyone can relate to a person a bit angry at not getting the response you wanted from a gm on a reimbursement. They standard reason , we show no problems in our logs.. we have no way to be able to tell whos trying to scam us and whos being honst. I understand him and I understand them. I dont understand why he would think BoB gets petitions answered any faster then anyone else or that we get reimburcements that others do not. Thats simply silly and what makes your thread a worthless rant imo at least to me. The old saying dont fly what you cant afford to loose, thats stupid imo. Fly it fly it fly it. If you loose something work to replace it thats the game. So get back to work fit your ship anyways since your going to have to do that anyways mods are never returned. But sure sometimes a good rant post is just what the doc ordered. Im a fire fighter -) "we spent 3 months and 4 billion training for this - we will win -IAC"
Miss Overlord	Posted - 2006.08.11 11:01:00 - [20] Originally by: Miss Overlord ask for elevation to a senior GM - they have to react then quick easy solution got lost in the flames but elevate to senior GM

Ivan Kirilenkov Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.08.11 11:22:00 - [21] Please avoid derailing the thread, and stay off the Tin-Foil(TM)-DevsInBoB line. With regards to the lag issues, there's been a few posts from Oveur on this matter; see this, this and this eve-crc.net \| forum rules \|[email protected]

Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2006.08.11 11:24:00 - [22] Originally by: voodoo I think everyone should know where this guys coming from. If you havent lossed a ship due to lag then i wonder what station you sit in all day. I have never lost a ship to lag and I never sit idle in a station. There have been occasional days when the server was clearly a big laggy but on those days I either log off and do RL stuff or stick to something safe like courier missions or trading or L3 missions (in my Apoc so lag is not a problem <g>). I just don't see much lag though overall. Maybe maybe one day a month is all. I suspect that not being part of the Jita crowd has something to do with it. -- (Battle hardened miner) [Brackley, UK] WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality.
BerekHalfhand	Posted - 2006.08.11 11:25:00 - [23] Originally by: Rev GigLeCarp Europeans have to go on "holiday" at least one week per month or they will go crazy. This is because their weather sucks, their food is bad, and their women are hairy. having enjoyed the weather in scotland for the past 3 weeks at 28oC and not beening married 2 a hairy woman i must disagree with the above as for the food nice 2 know that the land of the big mac is so in touch with the worlds eating habits.
Sulavan	Posted - 2006.08.11 11:26:00 - [24] Originally by: D'Mur Pilru Edited by: D''Mur Pilru on 11/08/2006 10:22:59 Originally by: Sulavan First rule: If the systems laggy. Don't put your ship at risk (don't go ratting for example). You are responsible for your gaming experience. Hahahahahaha, you so funny. So I get sold a game (really, I pay for it) that claims to be a big universe with hundreds of systems. Alas, you can only use a few, as the rest don't work properly? Debiting my account works fine though. Puhlezeee... edited for spelling If you think that way, fine. Just accept the consequences without complaint. If you dropped a coin into boiling water, reaching in to get it would be just stupid and you wouldnÆt have any sympathy for anyone that did. Reasons such as ôits my coin, I earned it, why shouldnÆt I just get it backö would just be laughed at (though sadly in todayÆs society, thereÆd prolly be some dumb law suit suing someone over the burns û but that sort of thinking should never be encouraged). So why is it any different here? The systems laggy? Find another or find something else to do. If the ship gets popped because of lag and you knew about the lag, cue laughter.
spurious signal Caldari Brainiacs	Posted - 2006.08.11 11:29:00 - [25] Originally by: voodoo I think everyone should know where this guys coming from. If you havent lossed a ship due to lag then i wonder what station you sit in all day. Everyone can relate to a person a bit angry at not getting the response you wanted from a gm on a reimbursement. They standard reason , we show no problems in our logs.. we have no way to be able to tell whos trying to scam us and whos being honst. I understand him and I understand them. I dont understand why he would think BoB gets petitions answered any faster then anyone else or that we get reimburcements that others do not. Thats simply silly and what makes your thread a worthless rant imo at least to me. The old saying dont fly what you cant afford to loose, thats stupid imo. Fly it fly it fly it. If you loose something work to replace it thats the game. So get back to work fit your ship anyways since your going to have to do that anyways mods are never returned. But sure sometimes a good rant post is just what the doc ordered. Im a fire fighter -) I've lost several ships due to lag. All of them have been reimbursed when my petition has been answered. What I haven't lost though is my ability to learn from my experiences - after my first ship loss I learned to never fly anything I couldn't afford to lose. It's a nice rule that helps prevent severe cases of pointless ranting
Iyanah Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.11 11:40:00 - [26] the only time i've ever experienced lag in this game was when my ISP decided i really wanted to be on a 28k connection after midnight. this lasted about a week. i suggest that any problems you are having are also caused by your computer not being powerful enough to load all the objects in the area fast enough, or due to your connection being rather slow. try investing in either some more RAM or in an e-mail to your ISP about your connection problems :) ========================================== Iy
Tachy	Posted - 2006.08.11 11:46:00 - [27] Originally by: Miss Overlord Originally by: Miss Overlord ask for elevation to a senior GM - they have to react then quick easy solution got lost in the flames but elevate to senior GM Reimbursements are totally up to the GM working on your petition. Starting with requesting that a senior GM works on your run-off-the-mill petition is like asking that your losses aren't replaced. --==*-- Even with nougat, you can have a perfect moment.
Shabesa	Posted - 2006.08.11 12:11:00 - [28] Ships are built to be blown up. Cause and reason are irrelevant.
D'Mur Pilru	Posted - 2006.08.11 12:33:00 - [29] Originally by: Sulavan If you think that way, fine. Just accept the consequences without complaint. If you dropped a coin into boiling water, reaching in to get it would be just stupid and you wouldnÆt have any sympathy for anyone that did. Reasons such as ôits my coin, I earned it, why shouldnÆt I just get it backö would just be laughed at (though sadly in todayÆs society, thereÆd prolly be some dumb law suit suing someone over the burns û but that sort of thinking should never be encouraged). So why is it any different here? The systems laggy? Find another or find something else to do. If the ship gets popped because of lag and you knew about the lag, cue laughter. You misunderstood. I'm tired off people countering normal arguments by going 'you can't play that part of the game; that content is not available'. And for the real life examples...I've also got those. If I go into a store, and pay for a nice cool beverage -say a can of coke-, and the guy hands me a cup of lukewarm water for the same price, with the message that I'll be expecting my cold beverage in 2-3 weeks, I'd be upset. I pay for a game, a service as advertised, a massive multiplayer online. Not a universe where you should stay in certain parts, because the rest don't work properly... I love Eve, don't mind paying for it, but as a consumer in todays society, I'd like to be given the product I pay for, and not have 'some guy' tell me to suck it up. I'm not angry, or going to leave or whatever, but I do feel that -as paying customers-, we are allowed to state we are dissatisfied with the state of the product delivered. Just as I'd complain to my ISP if they broke down twice a month, or my cable company if my TV went out twice a month, or...or... Now I gotta go, must log on to Eve
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2006.08.11 13:01:00 - [30] Edited by: Andrue on 11/08/2006 13:03:24 Actually, any comparison to buying goods is innappropriate. Eve is a service and in most countries there is no requirement for them to be 'fit for the purpose intended'. The law only requires best efforts and honesty from services providers and I think CCP meets those requirements. As long as they continue to be upfront about pricing, fix serious problems quickly and warn you that things will go wobbly now and again they are doing all that they legally need to. As for what you signed up to:Read the EULA more carefully. It doesn't promise 24/7 (or even 23/7) up time. It warns you about lag and the difficulty of maintaining such a service over the internet. It tells you that it reserves the right to bring the servers down as and when it wants to. In short:It is advertised as a 'best efforts' service and that is what you are paying for. If you want the MMORPG of your dreams you're going to have to pay more than $15 a month and will have a hard time finding it. -- (Battle hardened miner) [Brackley, UK] WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality.

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