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kakibot
Caidin Global HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2014.10.07 12:39:42 -
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Hi!
Since I first started eve one of my dreams was to be able to own a POS, and luckily i may even have the opportunity to own one. But the travelling changes are going to make it different as I live about 21 lightyears from highsec. So my questions are: - Do you guys think it would be a good/bad idea to start investing in a POS pair to make reactions? - Should I consider highsec/lowsec? (no fuel reduction)
Also I am wondering if this suggestion would be worth mentioning: Make all race poses have the same CPU/PWG.
My thoughts about similar stat POSes: - Could run reactions/other industry everywhere. - Could mine local ice to keep pos alive. - Revisit their bonuses, if you make them identical they would need compensation to stand out.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.10.07 14:16:00 -
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To all the goons and CFC still crying over the proposed power projection changes: CCP is not trying to ruin the game, they are trying to ruin your game. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
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Posted - 2014.10.07 14:44:32 -
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Did a search for Reaction PoS changes. Seems I did not find any dev blogs or announcements of any upcoming changes.
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Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.10.07 15:47:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Gû¼Gû¼Gû¦ Science and IndustryGûü Gûé Gûä Gûà Gûå Gûç Gûê GôòGôñGôíGô¿GôæGôPGôúGäó - GôPGôPGôù.89 Gûê Gûç Gûå Gûà Gûä Gûé Gûü
If we can put up with who might attach whom in SOV lands... I think we can put up with a question like this. |
Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.10.07 15:47:06 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:Did a search for Reaction PoS changes. Seems I did not find any dev blogs or announcements of any upcoming changes.
Title != Thread OP
Jump changes - 21 ly - that's 5 jumps out.
So he's asking about the reaction POS info based upon the fact people won't be able to quickly and easily get to and from highsec to buy the stuff they want/need...
Setup a POS of your own for business. |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
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Posted - 2014.10.07 16:12:00 -
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If all you're doing is running reactions, a hisec POS should work just fine. You will still need a losec POS for moon mining (unless you're buying your inputs), but by splitting up your operation you're reducing your risk somewhat.
Whether it's a good idea or not is entirely subjective.
POSes should absolutely not all have the same stats. Some are btter for some some purposes, some are better for others. Diversity is what makes EvE wonderful. While I don't necessarily think their bonuses need a looking at, the base stats of POS defensive batteries are in serious need of some attention, and CCP has indicated that this should be coming up soon. CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I want to create content, not become content. |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
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Posted - 2014.10.07 16:12:45 -
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If all you're doing is running reactions, you cannot use a hisec POS. It is possible to use multiple smaller POSes in losec to split up harvesting and reactions: this splits up your risk at any one POS, but also provides more targets. (EDIT: Corrected earlier statement. I had a brain fart.)
Whether it's a good idea or not is entirely subjective.
POSes should absolutely not all have the same stats. Some are btter for some some purposes, some are better for others. Diversity is what makes EvE wonderful. While I don't necessarily think their bonuses need a looking at, the base stats of POS defensive batteries are in serious need of some attention, and CCP has indicated that this should be coming up soon.
CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking.
Reading Comprehension: so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content.
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
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Posted - 2014.10.07 16:31:07 -
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kakibot wrote:Hi! Since I first started eve one of my dreams was to be able to own a POS, and luckily i may even have the opportunity to own one. But the travelling changes are going to make it different as I live about 21 lightyears from highsec. So my questions are: - Do you guys think it would be a good/bad idea to start investing in a POS pair to make reactions? - Should I consider highsec/lowsec? (no fuel reduction) Also I am wondering if this suggestion would be worth mentioning: Make all race poses have the same CPU/PWG. My thoughts about similar stat POSes: - Could run reactions/other industry everywhere. - Could mine local ice to keep pos alive. - Revisit their bonuses, if you make them identical they would need compensation to stand out. All forum rules apply in thread, be nice
Ask in alliance chat. I know for a fact that HUN Reloaded has people quite experienced running POSs for profit.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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kakibot
Caidin Global HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2014.10.07 17:39:42 -
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Thanks for the replies everyone! I have been talking with my alliance mates too about this but these were the concerns I had.
One of my ally mates suggested that POS "stat equalization", I know we need different control towers and diversity, but the changes affect my region a bit more (not whining). My area has minmatar and amarr ice, both incapable of holding the reactors, silos. On test server I could make it work with both gallente (100 cpu left) and caldari (tons of cpu left).
I am already looking at dotlan, planning 5 ly range jumps (its like lvl 0 JF pilot trying to fly around eve). But reaction pos fuel can only be brought here instead of trying to use local resources. |
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.10.07 19:48:50 -
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This thread has been moved to Science & Industry. I also removed an off topic post and the one quoting it.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.10.07 20:01:12 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote:If all you're doing is running reactions, a hisec POS should work just fine. You will still need a losec POS for moon mining (unless you're buying your inputs), but by splitting up your operation you're reducing your risk somewhat. I can sure as hell be wrong, but I could have sworn reactions cannot be done in hi sec.
Successfully doinitwrongGäó since 2006.
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
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Posted - 2014.10.07 20:08:20 -
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MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Bronson Hughes wrote:If all you're doing is running reactions, a hisec POS should work just fine. You will still need a losec POS for moon mining (unless you're buying your inputs), but by splitting up your operation you're reducing your risk somewhat. I can sure as hell be wrong, but I could have sworn reactions cannot be done in hi sec. You know what, you're right. Total brain fart, I had just been working on a POS build that split up moon harvesting and production between losec and hisec.
Thanks!
CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking.
Reading Comprehension: so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content.
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cherry popping
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Posted - 2014.10.08 10:37:18 -
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reactions might be a good thing in lowsec now
as a hauler i see people taking down towers fast since they lack resources to do full reactions now (not to mention you won't be able to sell it anyway
how i wish i was a goon now
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.08 21:49:34 -
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Moongoo is going to increase in price due to increased (labor) cost of getting the goo to market. The further away from nullsec you are, the more expensive it will be to purchase and sell your i/o materials, which will hurt profit. Basically, if you're not in Sov Space, you shouldn't be doing normal reactions. Doing normal reactions in lowsec is pretty bad because of the increased fuel costs.
If you're not moving your own goods, you'll have to evaluate the cost of transport once the patch hits to see if your reaction will still be profitable. We're expecting that transport costs could rise as much as 4x due to the increased labor. The pure fuel cost won't go up (fuel costs will actually decrease), but countless more hours will be spent moving goods than previously. |
Sindjin Hawke
Distant Light Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.10.10 00:58:19 -
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All moons need to be harvestable to some degree... Everywhere. Just like planets. |
Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2014.10.13 19:18:11 -
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I've found POS reactions to be generally profitable to the tune of a 1-2 billion isk /mo , if you do your research, properly figure out your fuel costs, and don't screw up the setup. Damn that interface.
It is correct that reactions cannot be done in hisec. But .4 systems are now available. This opens up a lot of previously closed space.
CCP caved on the fatigue and range changes for jump freighters. You should be fine even out in deep nul. But, if you can locally source your blocks, it would be better. Given the choice between Caldari and Gallente towers for reactions, I would choose Gallente for the silo volume bonus.
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Amber Lana
Solar Vista.
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Posted - 2014.10.15 05:58:43 -
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Since I have a similar question, I'm not going to create a new thread, but:
What's a typical reaction pos setup these days? Medium or large tower/?
"And it rained tears for fourty days and fourty nights."
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kakibot
Caidin Global HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2014.10.24 14:39:39 -
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Amber Lana wrote:What's a typical reaction pos setup these days? Medium or large tower/?
My setup uses 2 towers to make complex reaction. It needs 2 large gallente or caldari towers (cpu cap).
For one tower you need: Simple reactor x1 Complex reactor x1 Silos/Coupling arrays (depending on reaction)
You put 1-1 simple reactions on each tower, and half of your materials switch towers to be able to do the complex one. In my case Titanium carbide, 2 simple reactors can feed 2 complex reactors (1 simple makes 200/ hour, while the complex uses 100/hour) Silos are needed to input raw materials, the simple reaction material from sister pos, an output for local material, and one for the complex output, also you can put a coupling array before that so you can offline last silo without losing anything (just a basic safety for noobs like me) |
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