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Maya Rkell
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.12 17:22:00 -
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When x+ people log into a system within a y second window, scatter them across the system. This deals with login traps AND fleet battle crash/logbackings.
x/y on a scaling system, numbers to be determined by CCP. This is not jumping in, just logging in.
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Maya Rkell
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.12 17:38:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 12/08/2006 17:38:17
 Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Why not just make it impossible to lock someone for 60 seconds after logging in?
Better solution: Make it impossible to agress someone for 5 minutes. This means if someone attacks you, you can attack back, but you can't fire unless someone fires on you.
So basically I now have a 5 minute downtime after logging on. Great...
No, boring as heck.
AND it dosn't solve the fleet crash issue!
Gift, no it'd amplify it.
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Maya Rkell
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.12 17:58:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 12/08/2006 18:00:21
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Maya Rkell
Edited by: Maya Rkell on 12/08/2006 17:38:17
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Why not just make it impossible to lock someone for 60 seconds after logging in?
Better solution: Make it impossible to agress someone for 5 minutes. This means if someone attacks you, you can attack back, but you can't fire unless someone fires on you.
So basically I now have a 5 minute downtime after logging on. Great...
No, boring as heck.
No, its an absolutely great idea.
5 minutes is very little time to wait before *going and killing people*.
How often do you "just happen to log on and need to gank a ton of people in your first 5 minutes"?
Or do you do login traps too? 
Right, noted, you're in favour of boring downtime and you can BET I'm going to bring it up. I suggested something else which works better, in other situations as well AND dosn't annoy legitimate players logging in.
5 minutes is 5 minutes is 5 minutes. It's a LONG time before being able to play the game properly. Moreover, it directly and deliverately punishes people for network issues.
eLLioTT wave, yea, about 6 months after the event because the GM's would be getting hundreds of additional petitions about it a day. And unless a ban can be done within 24 hours, it's not applied per CCP policy. So...
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Maya Rkell
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.12 18:04:00 -
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1 minute? Right, you want GM's banning people within that span *ugh*.
And taking away peoples stuff like that is illegal in some countries, becuase it;s not delivering the service offered. Bans are not, however, problematical. No, don't ask me for a long explination of why...
You can technically class *1* guy logging in as a logon trap, of course. (and 1 guy logging in and 1 fighting should make them strip your corphangers... er....)
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Maya Rkell
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.12 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Hertford
Originally by: Maya Rkell
And taking away peoples stuff like that is illegal in some countries, becuase it;s not delivering the service offered.
People play the game according, and within, the rules set out by CCP. The rules are part of the service. You obviously do not have a clue.
You obviously have never sat down with an lawyer friend and discussed this over a few drinks either.
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Maya Rkell
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.12 18:45:00 -
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His speciality is environmental law, not criminal :P
But like me, he's a gamer and has done some research for me because I'm cute.
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Maya Rkell
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.12 21:44:00 -
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Maybe, but..it also needs to apply to station logins (I honestly don't see the different there..). Thing is, you're asking for a data dsplay on an enemy, and there's SO much basic UI work we need first, like knowing status of all EW and tackling modules on and from us easily, etc.
Nebuli, again, hundreds of petitions a day and a lot of people banned for someone they didn't know logging in and shooting the same guy.
If POSwars are an issue, FIX POSWARS!
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Maya Rkell
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.12 23:23:00 -
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Argenton Sayvers, yes, and this has never been discussed in open court in America or Europe.
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Maya Rkell
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.13 01:30:00 -
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Tentacles Out, because it'd be expensive...and what if they LOST?
That case you link was decided because it was a external hack, incidentally.
Bramson, no, just "OMG I crashed in Jita and now I've been logging in for 3 hours!" threads. Which would be ENTIRELY justified. Heck, "OMG I'm logging into some system and it's taking 5 minutes" is perfectly when you just come to login for the day. If I wanted to wait in line for a login, I'd be playing WoW :/
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