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ArmyOfMe
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.10.08 18:47:00 -
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As one of many veterans in this game, ive seen a lot of changes, both ingame and on the forums. There was a time when the CAOD section of these very forums were filled with life (flames, trolls, a few battlereports and so on), however over the past few years things have changed.
First there was the changes where you had to be in a 10 man corp to post, wich did kill a lot of the troll posts, and then the change so you had to be logged in to see the posts there, wich i to this day dont really see the reason for. In the old days when two sides had flame wars, these forums felt so much more alive, and fun to be part of. However with the way CAOD is run, mostly in due of overzealous ISD and DEV moderators, that single subforum is now the least used subforum in here. You might as well remove the entire section if we're not allowed to use it as it once was used. As a tool for agitating other alliances, for saying what you really felt like saying to them. I have seen quite a few wars (mostly small ones) faught due to someones posting on CAOD, but that can no longer happen as it more often then not will be locked as trolling or something along those lines.
Seeing as the new expantion seems to be bringing back a lot of oldtimers, is it really so bad to let that one single section of these forums slip into the demented, depraved cesspool it once was.
A more used forum can only be good for this game as it brings back enthusiasm in the playerbase, and hopefully brings back some of the many that left these forums for 3rd party sites were CCP has no means of moderating them in the first place. QUOTE CCP Dolan and the EVE Online development team:-áThe battle was relatively even for some time with CFC and Russian forces holding moderate lead at first and only have a slight lead in Titan kills. Then came a turning point in the battle. Manfred Sideous, the initial Fleet Commander for PL/N3, handed over command to the CEO of Northern Coalition., Vince Draken |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.10.08 18:49:00 -
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To all the goons and CFC still crying over the proposed power projection changes: CCP is not trying to ruin the game, they are trying to ruin your game. |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.08 18:50:00 -
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BRING BACK CAOD!
or don't, I don't care either way. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |
Dmitri Dracov
Deep Space Trade and Prospect
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:02:00 -
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TBH I didn't even know it existed.
I usually read the forums whilst not logged in and never noticed that subsection. Perhaps if they made it readable without being logged in it might get more interest? |
Jean Luc Lemmont
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:09:00 -
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CAOD was a cesspit of bad posting. Now's it just a largely ignored cesspit of bad posting. A bitter vet trying to start anew. |
Tikitina
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
167
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:10:00 -
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COAD is no longer a cesspool?
I don't believe it.
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Toshiro Hasegawa
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
98
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:16:00 -
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I dont even know what it is .
although i have never been on the forums while in game .. cause im playing a game .. and i wouldnt want to be on a forum ...
i use a forum to get as close to playing as i can when i cant play the game .. cause im at work. History is the study of change. |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1304
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:23:00 -
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Tikitina wrote:COAD is no longer a cesspool? I don't believe it.
It's still a cesspool but it does not get stirred as much because you have to jump a few hoops so the lazy stirrer are stirring in other sub-forums instead.
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ArmyOfMe
Origin. Black Legion.
345
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:23:00 -
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Jean Luc Lemmont wrote:CAOD was a cesspit of bad posting. Now's it just a largely ignored cesspit of bad posting. Its not even used at all tbfh, wich isnt a good thing. Just makes this game look more dead then it really is. QUOTE CCP Dolan and the EVE Online development team:-áThe battle was relatively even for some time with CFC and Russian forces holding moderate lead at first and only have a slight lead in Titan kills. Then came a turning point in the battle. Manfred Sideous, the initial Fleet Commander for PL/N3, handed over command to the CEO of Northern Coalition., Vince Draken |
Jean Luc Lemmont
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:25:00 -
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ArmyOfMe wrote:Jean Luc Lemmont wrote:CAOD was a cesspit of bad posting. Now's it just a largely ignored cesspit of bad posting. Its not even used at all tbfh, wich isnt a good thing.
Honestly, I am neither surprised nor disappointed.
A bitter vet trying to start anew. |
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Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:27:00 -
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ArmyOfMe wrote:Jean Luc Lemmont wrote:CAOD was a cesspit of bad posting. Now's it just a largely ignored cesspit of bad posting. Its not even used at all tbfh, wich isnt a good thing. Just makes this game look more dead then it really is. You can have all the assholes from GD, if you want. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
ArmyOfMe
Origin. Black Legion.
345
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:32:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:ArmyOfMe wrote:Jean Luc Lemmont wrote:CAOD was a cesspit of bad posting. Now's it just a largely ignored cesspit of bad posting. Its not even used at all tbfh, wich isnt a good thing. Just makes this game look more dead then it really is. You can have all the assholes from GD, if you want. No thank you, i just want back the assholes we used to have on CAOD QUOTE CCP Dolan and the EVE Online development team:-áThe battle was relatively even for some time with CFC and Russian forces holding moderate lead at first and only have a slight lead in Titan kills. Then came a turning point in the battle. Manfred Sideous, the initial Fleet Commander for PL/N3, handed over command to the CEO of Northern Coalition., Vince Draken |
Tikitina
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
167
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Posted - 2014.10.08 20:26:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Tikitina wrote:COAD is no longer a cesspool? I don't believe it. It's still a cesspool but it does not get stirred as much because you have to jump a few hoops so the lazy stirrer are stirring in other sub-forums instead.
Oh, so that's what happened to General Discussion.
COAD got backed up.
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Jim Era
9085
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Posted - 2014.10.08 20:43:00 -
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CCP is putting too many restrictions on the players. why do you think nobody plays anymore?
WatGäó |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
709
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Posted - 2014.10.09 00:57:00 -
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CAOD is beyond 5ly so it takes a while to get there. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.10.09 01:52:00 -
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Whats a CAOD? Is it like a Jita?
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
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Posted - 2014.10.09 04:04:00 -
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Tikitina wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Tikitina wrote:COAD is no longer a cesspool? I don't believe it. It's still a cesspool but it does not get stirred as much because you have to jump a few hoops so the lazy stirrer are stirring in other sub-forums instead. Oh, so that's what happened to General Discussion. COAD got backed up. There was slightly more shiptoasting in GD? I didn't notice the difference. |
Yarda Black
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.10.09 07:56:00 -
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I had a thread moved there once. Never saw it again..... |
Magnus Orly
Crucial Contribution
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Posted - 2014.10.09 07:58:00 -
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I know COED....but wtf is CAOD?
EDIT: Found it. Its "EVE Corporations, Alliances and Organizations Discussion" or something like that.... Our corporation is recruiting! We live in Caldari high-sec and do mining, missions and-átrading.
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Maeltstome
Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi
599
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Posted - 2014.10.09 10:52:00 -
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Flaming, Trolling and, above all, STUPIDITY fuel this game.
When everyone acts sensibly and agree's about everything it gets boring and no one undocks.
you have 2-options: Role play to motivate content (yuck) or insult people so they actually hate you enough to attack you in a video game. |
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Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10745
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Posted - 2014.10.09 11:20:00 -
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Maeltstome wrote:Flaming, Trolling and, above all, STUPIDITY fuel this game.
When everyone acts sensibly and agree's about everything it gets boring and no one undocks.
you have 2-options: Role play to motivate content (yuck) or insult people so they actually hate you enough to attack you in a video game. Let me repeat that the actual issue is that too many people do not actually PLAY assholes .... I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
ArmyOfMe
Origin. Black Legion.
353
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Posted - 2014.10.09 12:16:00 -
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Maeltstome wrote:Flaming, Trolling and, above all, STUPIDITY fuel this game.
When everyone acts sensibly and agree's about everything it gets boring and no one undocks.
you have 2-options: Role play to motivate content (yuck) or insult people so they actually hate you enough to attack you in a video game. This man has at least gotten the reason for having CAOD QUOTE CCP Dolan and the EVE Online development team:-áThe battle was relatively even for some time with CFC and Russian forces holding moderate lead at first and only have a slight lead in Titan kills. Then came a turning point in the battle. Manfred Sideous, the initial Fleet Commander for PL/N3, handed over command to the CEO of Northern Coalition., Vince Draken |
ArmyOfMe
Origin. Black Legion.
353
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Posted - 2014.10.09 12:40:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote: Let me repeat that the actual issue is that too many people do not actually PLAY assholes ....
And what happens when two many assholes comes toghter? they get in each others throats, they start wars, they create content.
Eve has now gone without any proper wars for a while, and the only thing happening in this game is 1) someone got banned for the bonus room (not complaining) 2) high sec ganks are at an all time high due to bored 0,0 alliances having nothing to do. 3) you get stuff like "the code" or whatever its called. 4) gallente has won FW (not related, but i just felt like pointing it out )
Caod was "the" place to go for every ******* in this game, and it did help create content, or at least it did until two 0,0 alliances (not gonna mention names, but yes im talking about goons and test) desided to see if they could actually destroy CAOD, and they did it. QUOTE CCP Dolan and the EVE Online development team:-áThe battle was relatively even for some time with CFC and Russian forces holding moderate lead at first and only have a slight lead in Titan kills. Then came a turning point in the battle. Manfred Sideous, the initial Fleet Commander for PL/N3, handed over command to the CEO of Northern Coalition., Vince Draken |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
2128
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Posted - 2014.10.09 13:58:00 -
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Now that everyone thinks CAOD is **** and nobody wants to use it anymore, I shall claim it in the name of Providence! Works every time! BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10752
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Posted - 2014.10.09 15:37:00 -
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KuroVolt wrote:Now that everyone thinks CAOD is **** and nobody wants to use it anymore, I shall claim it in the name of Providence! Works every time! You forgot to respond in the other thread. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.10.09 16:02:00 -
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ArmyOfMe wrote:However with the way CAOD is run, mostly in due of overzealous ISD and DEV moderators, that single subforum is now the least used subforum in here. Right. Against my better judgement, as I should actually close this thread for discussing forum moderation, I will give you some facts.
The CCL division of ISD that is tasked with moderating the forum was founded in April 2012. So it exists for about 2.5 years. In the 4 to 5 years before that moderation was often scarce and erratic. The rule change regarding who can post in CAOD and who can not, was made long before CCL ever came to be, somewhere in the beginning of 2009 (rule 21).
And now for the interesting part: In the entire existence of ISD's CCL division, all members of the team combine posted just over 20000 times on the entire forum. Of which 67 times in CAOD or about 0.34%...... That is including posts such as 'this thread has been moved to CAOD' etcetera which constitute to about one third of them. Keep in mind, each moderator intervention in a thread leads to one of our team posting in it that he/she has done so. So counting ISD posts is a pretty good indication on how many times CCL had to come into action to moderate a thread.
In essence it boils down to this: CAOD has had 40 to 45 moderator interventions in the past two and a half years combined. That's can hardly be called over moderation now can it. If anything, it shows a lack of activity there by the posters themselves, actually leaving us very, very little to do there.
I mean come on, apart from four CCL closed threads (2 cross-post duplicates and two blatant troll ones) there are only 29 open player created threads there, the rest was automatically closed by the forum software for total lack of activity in the last 90 days......
You want to see the place more active and interesting? Do it yourself, but don't blame us for the current state. We didn't do it, we weren't there! Well, hardly.... ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1558
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Posted - 2014.10.09 16:37:00 -
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Thanks for the numbers! Any responding post is gonna be on thin ice for discussing moderation. Hopefully it's clear I'd like to discuss math in this post, not the act of forum moderation.
So basicly, true moderation began after the 2009 restrictions came to be? So doesn't that mean that any numbers you have can only represent a time period after said restrictions were in place? Aka, you started to take it's pulse when the horse was already dead? Or am I missing something? Well, so far we're still talking about numbers. I'm not even touching on the reasons why that place is dead, because... well you know why. |
DNSBLACK
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
697
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Posted - 2014.10.09 16:42:00 -
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I support this thread 100%. The long distance travel thread is a clear example of ISD letting it roll. It did bring back the fay of COAD gone wild.
It was fun reading the threads and the trolls. I hated having to go to Kugu and fail heap. COAD should be a smack talking war room. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2463
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Posted - 2014.10.09 17:00:00 -
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DNSBLACK wrote: COAD should be a smack talking war room. And it would get the same leeway Crime & Punishment has, where we do our best to remove only the most vile personal attacks (among which RL threats) and leave the rest.
ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.10.09 17:17:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote:So basicly, true moderation began after the 2009 restrictions came to be? So doesn't that mean that any numbers you have can only represent a time period after said restrictions were in place? Aka, you started to take it's pulse when the horse was already dead? Or am I missing something? Well, so far we're still talking about numbers. I'm not even touching on the reasons why that place is dead, because... well you know why. The forum was moderated prior to CCL, but not by dedicated volunteer team created for that purpose. Talking about figures, I have none on the old forum, but from the start of the new one in September 2011 CCP Dev's have also closed about 50 threads in total. And yes, when this new forum and half a year later CCL started, COAD was already pretty slow.
ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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