Right. Against my better judgement, as I should actually close this thread for discussing forum moderation, I will give you some facts.

The CCL division of ISD that is tasked with moderating the forum was founded in April 2012. So it exists for about 2.5 years.
In the 4 to 5 years before that moderation was often scarce and erratic.
The rule change regarding who can post in CAOD and who can not, was made long before CCL ever came to be, somewhere in the beginning of 2009 (rule 21).
I mean come on, apart from four CCL closed threads (2 cross-post duplicates and two blatant troll ones) in the past three months there are only 29 open player created threads there, the rest was automatically closed by the forum software for total lack of activity in the last 90 days......

You want to see the place more active and interesting? Do it yourself, but don't blame us for the current state.
We didn't do it, we weren't there! Well, hardly....

Ezwal, you might as well bang your head against a wall.

Because no matter how many times players in this sandbox (forums included) are given rope to hang themselves with, it'll be CCP's fault when they screw themselves.

So just tuck your facts away and lock the thread. It's a waste of time to try and convince people they have done it to themselves.

Mr Epeen

Bummer, and here i even thanked the man, and then you come here and say he should lock the thread

I support this thread 100%. The long distance travel thread is a clear example of ISD letting it roll. It did bring back the fay of COAD gone wild.

It was fun reading the threads and the trolls. I hated having to go to Kugu and fail heap. COAD should be a smack talking war room.

As one of many veterans in this game, ive seen a lot of changes, both ingame and on the forums.
There was a time when the CAOD section of these very forums were filled with life (flames, trolls, a few battlereports and so on), however over the past few years things have changed.

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Ezwal, you might as well bang your head against a wall.

Because no matter how many times players in this sandbox (forums included) are given rope to hang themselves with, it'll be CCP's fault when they screw themselves.

So just tuck your facts away and lock the thread. It's a waste of time to try and convince people they have done it to themselves.

Mr Epeen

There was a noticeable shift towards contentless posting when Test formed and started spamming every forum with 4chan crap.

Crumpets Anonymous Online Dating.

As one of many veterans in this game, ive seen a lot of changes, both ingame and on the forums.
There was a time when the CAOD section of these very forums were filled with life (flames, trolls, a few battlereports and so on), however over the past few years things have changed.

First there was the changes where you had to be in a 10 man corp to post, wich did kill a lot of the troll posts, and then the change so you had to be logged in to see the posts there, wich i to this day dont really see the reason for.
In the old days when two sides had flame wars, these forums felt so much more alive, and fun to be part of.
However with the way CAOD is run, mostly in due of overzealous ISD and DEV moderators, that single subforum is now the least used subforum in here.
You might as well remove the entire section if we're not allowed to use it as it once was used. As a tool for agitating other alliances, for saying what you really felt like saying to them. I have seen quite a few wars (mostly small ones) faught due to someones posting on CAOD, but that can no longer happen as it more often then not will be locked as trolling or something along those lines.

Seeing as the new expantion seems to be bringing back a lot of oldtimers, is it really so bad to let that one single section of these forums slip into the demented, depraved cesspool it once was.

A more used forum can only be good for this game as it brings back enthusiasm in the playerbase, and hopefully brings back some of the many that left these forums for 3rd party sites were CCP has no means of moderating them in the first place.

After having had an internal discussion in CCL, we have decided on the following.
Just for your information.

After having had an internal discussion in CCL, we have decided on the following.
Just for your information.

After having had an internal discussion in CCL, we have decided on the following.
Just for your information.

The 10 man limit is still an issue. Many of us are active in the sphere of alliances ad corps without being in a big corp ourself.

The 10 man limit is still an issue. Many of us are active in the sphere of alliances ad corps without being in a big corp ourself.

The 10 man limit is still an issue. Many of us are active in the sphere of alliances ad corps without being in a big corp ourself.

Right. Against my better judgement, as I should actually close this thread for discussing forum moderation, I will give you some facts.

The CCL division of ISD that is tasked with moderating the forum was founded in April 2012. So it exists for about 2.5 years.
In the 4 to 5 years before that moderation was often scarce and erratic.
The rule change regarding who can post in CAOD and who can not, was made long before CCL ever came to be, somewhere in the beginning of 2009 (rule 21).

And now for the interesting part: In the entire existence of ISD's CCL division, all members of the team combined posted just over 20000 times on the entire forum. Of which 67 times in CAOD or about 0.34%......
That is including posts such as 'this thread has been moved to CAOD' etcetera which constitute to about one third of them.
Keep in mind, each moderator intervention in a thread leads to one of our team posting in it that he/she has done so. So counting ISD posts is a pretty good indication on how many times CCL had to come into action to moderate a thread.

In essence it boils down to this: CAOD has had 40 to 45 moderator interventions in the past two and a half years combined.
That's can hardly be called over moderation now can it. If anything, it shows a lack of activity there by the posters themselves, actually leaving us very, very little to do there.

I mean come on, apart from four CCL closed threads (2 cross-post duplicates and two blatant troll ones) in the past three months there are only 29 open player created threads there, the rest was automatically closed by the forum software for total lack of activity in the last 90 days......

You want to see the place more active and interesting? Do it yourself, but don't blame us for the current state.
We didn't do it, we weren't there! Well, hardly....

Ezwal, you might as well bang your head against a wall.

Because no matter how many times players in this sandbox (forums included) are given rope to hang themselves with, it'll be CCP's fault when they screw themselves.

So just tuck your facts away and lock the thread. It's a waste of time to try and convince people they have done it to themselves.

Mr Epeen