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Soyemia Minmatar Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.13 07:29:00 - [1] What comes with it, shouldnt it come in next month? Proud member of fix. Hated on finnish channel. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Arkanor Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.08.13 07:31:00 - [2] Read Dev Blogs to find out. Originally by: Ghosthowl WoW = hardcore paladins smashin dat face. Originally by: HippoKing I just cried, you know that?
Soyemia Minmatar Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.13 07:35:00 - [3] Link, cant find Proud member of fix. Hated on finnish channel. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.13 07:36:00 - [4] September. Even though im beginning to doubt it... --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
CT BadIronTree Gallente Colossus Technologies	Posted - 2006.08.13 07:40:00 - [5] Originally by: Jim McGregor September. Even though im beginning to doubt it... Originally by: Jim McGregor September. Even though im beginning to doubt it... we need atlist a month for beta testing so maybe octomber .. or the 30th of september :P the unicode client is not out yet... ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
EnEs TaLuNdZiC	Posted - 2006.08.14 09:44:00 - [6] Kali Should have been out Q2 2006, Game By Chinese Communist Productions is not fulfilling their part of the contract. Game By Chinese Communist Productions
Indra Sebuchiore Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2006.08.14 10:25:00 - [7] CCP never stick to deadlines, everyone should know that by now. Expect Kali Part One a sometime in March. __________________________________________ "In girum imus nocte, et consumimur igni."
Emily Spankratchet Minmatar Pragmatics	Posted - 2006.08.14 11:17:00 - [8] Originally by: EnEs TaLuNdZiC Game By Chinese Communist Productions is not fulfilling their part of the contract. Bah, I wish I had your contract. The EULA I have mentions nothing about guaranteeing free updates at regular intervals.
robacz Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.14 11:30:00 - [9] Originally by: Soyemia Link, cant find Read: http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=345 http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=347 http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=354 http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=360 http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=361 Not sure if Tier 3 BS are gonna be ready for Kali 1, but I gave you links for them too. ___________ Buying/Selling: Implants, Cargo Expanders and more
Brastagi Caldari g guild	Posted - 2006.08.14 11:31:00 - [10] September in Sisi probably. --------- Stop monkeying around, get back sucking those roids!
ZaKma The Scope	Posted - 2006.08.14 11:33:00 - [11] I really doubt they will meet the deadline. It's not even on the test server yet. I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar.
Temerlyn Minmatar STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.14 12:09:00 - [12] Truth be told the last 2 expansions came out very close to when they expected them. Even had a 6 month gap, but Kali has been taking to long as many, many are waiting for it now. Thing is its been delayed by other things, especially a CCG and a china server, while this may seem bad in some eyes, both of these systems acheieve one thing, money. With more money they have more staff and resources. So while Kali maybe slow on the uptake they have a chance to get some other things going. Possibly even surprise us with release of kali 2 quicker than kali 1, at least we can hope anyway.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.14 12:12:00 - [13] I'm not expecting Kali 1 until December. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Francesca Dell'Agio eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.14 12:14:00 - [14] Maybe end of january. WTB: In Game Map Setting: Players logged off in system last 24 hours. Guess why ^^
EnEs TaLuNdZiC	Posted - 2006.08.14 14:11:00 - [15] Originally by: Emily Spankratchet Bah, I wish I had your contract. The EULA I have mentions nothing about guaranteeing free updates at regular intervals. A promise is a promise is a promise, right ? If you look @ Eve Online Features you will notice the little funny picture that leads to Kali says KALI RELEASEDATE Q2 2006. I'm not refering to any EULA. They said it themselves. They have this nice link stating the definitive releasedate. Kali/ Q2 2006. Nothing more nothing less. Maybe they should give us an accurate release date instead of high hopes, edit kali link image to reflect Releasedate Kali End Q4 2007, more likely, or Kali / Q3 2008. This Game By Chinese Communist Productions
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.14 14:36:00 - [16] Q1 2007 I bet is when we will see it on TQ. Seems like a lot has to be tested, and that has not started yet... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Pesky LaRue Minmatar L.O.S.T. Foundation	Posted - 2006.08.14 14:47:00 - [17] Originally by: EnEs TaLuNdZiC Originally by: Emily Spankratchet Bah, I wish I had your contract. The EULA I have mentions nothing about guaranteeing free updates at regular intervals. A promise is a promise is a promise, right ? If you look @ Eve Online Features you will notice the little funny picture that leads to Kali says KALI RELEASEDATE Q2 2006. I'm not refering to any EULA. They said it themselves. They have this nice link stating the definitive releasedate. Kali/ Q2 2006. Nothing more nothing less. Maybe they should give us an accurate release date instead of high hopes, edit kali link image to reflect Releasedate Kali End Q4 2007, more likely, or Kali / Q3 2008. This Game By Chinese Communist Productions I'm with you! I'd rather have a half-assed, half-ready, half-baked publish that detracts from my gameplay just so they can meet a vague deadline that was set way off in the future before they realised any issues with the coding or implementation! seriously, grow up a little - a publish date doesn't constitute a promise or a binding agreement, it's a date when they think they'll be ready, and if they're not ready, then OH WELL, that date gets pushed back till they ARE ready. honestly, what would you prefer? a broken product on a date announced what, a year or so ago, or a finished product that works and comes out WHEN IT'S READY? sniff sniff, they broke their promise, sniff sniff. This message came from the Minmatar Messiah, accept no imitations Pesky LaRue, Minmatar Messiah Bringing Salvation To Your System Soon! ++ PRAY FOR PESKY ++
Scorpyn Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.08.14 14:53:00 - [18] 1 month of testing? Not likely. I still remember when they made like 4 new versions of the client with 24 hours or so of a patch launch. Kali is bigger though, so 3-4 days perhaps?
xeom Obsidian Sins	Posted - 2006.08.14 15:01:00 - [19] September but i doubt there gana make it.I mean they don't even got most features totaly finished.And just look at the new ships being added,they arn't even finalized yet. CCP where are our t2 shield power relays? \| Join[..SIN]
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.08.14 15:15:00 - [20] Edited by: FireFoxx80 on 14/08/2006 15:17:28 As far as oe of the topics I read stated, Dragon client was to be released in "2-3 weeks", that was a week ago, hence should mean late/end Aug we see Dragon. Contracts - seem pretty mature, we don't get to see the full implementation of them to begin with, just enough to replace Escrow. Ship Rigs - heard a basic amount on these. I dont expect them to be in Kali1. Tier 3 BS - seem to be being 'balanced' internally. Models for them are being worked on. Tier 2 BC - ditto on the above. Map Changes - heard that all was needed was a population of new NPC's; though roid belts, plexes (particularly ones related to boosters and rigs), etc all need to be spawned. Remember that the RMR/Exodus/Blood map changes were kapt off of the test server until release. Faction Warfare, Boosters, etc. All not Kali1. The RMR/Blood patch time was what? 8 weeks? I'll admit, 4-5 weeks between Dragon and Kali1 will be awfully tight.
Twilight Moon Minmatar eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.14 15:18:00 - [21] I'll be happy if they only release it when its ready, not before. I've enough to play with in EVE at the minute anyway. ...on the other hand using a banana might be a viable alternative.
EvilNate Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2006.08.14 15:18:00 - [22] Well, the first implement of Kali is suppose to be coming at the end of sept and atm, they don't even have it on SiSi, so I'm not holding out for this year. I would however really, REALLY like those wcs nerfs that were talked about implemented pls. Nate. -------- www.bydi.org
Valrandir Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.08.14 17:06:00 - [23] Kali 1 should make it to Tranquility before 2007, but not likely in september. Then we'll have a bugfix patch around a week after, and another one a month after. Afterward there will be some time without news, and then some talk about Kali 2 with a to soon release date. Yet everything is most excellent compared to other MMORPG. Long life EvE! -------------------------------- This has surpassed the Yarrdware specification and has been dubbed Uberware.
Tharrn Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2006.08.14 17:10:00 - [24] They'll just delay features like contracts, all things industrial and exploration and start Kali in September with a couple of new ships :P Exodus and gasmining, cometmining and variable ore spawns anyone? :P Now recruiting!
Valrandir Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.08.14 17:12:00 - [25] Originally by: Tharrn They'll just delay features like contracts, all things industrial and exploration and start Kali in September with a couple of new ships :P Exodus and gasmining, cometmining and variable ore spawns anyone? :P Yeah they will probably delay some features, but I think that contract and exploration will make it. The contracts where first supposed to be included in Shiva (Exodus), and were then delayed to now. Also we have seen screenshots of the current implementation, which althought being a shadow of the initial plan, is still a start. Gas cloud mining? That might be delayed. We'll see. -------------------------------- This has surpassed the Yarrdware specification and has been dubbed Uberware.
Tharrn Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2006.08.14 17:16:00 - [26] I fully expect research and rigs to be delayed in fact - it's really a good old CCP tradition to give lower priority to the industrial side than to pew-pewing stuff. Now recruiting!
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2006.08.14 17:29:00 - [27] as long as they don't pull an SOE, I am happy.
Skraelingz Gallente Gallente Federal Bank	Posted - 2006.08.14 18:13:00 - [28] You all should know by now NO Release dates are ever set in stone in the game industry. -----------------------------------------------
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.08.14 18:55:00 - [29] I completely forgot about cometmining and gasgiantmining. I guess these are cool idea that devs come up with, but sadly never make it further than the internal test server.
Go Team Caldari Dark Sun Solutions	Posted - 2006.08.14 19:01:00 - [30] OP, Qaurter 7, 2020.... Won't tell you what I found in my basement, if I had one :( - Cortes My other sig?? GIMME!!! -GT
EnEs TaLuNdZiC	Posted - 2006.08.15 06:30:00 - [31] Originally by: Pesky LaRue Originally by: EnEs TaLuNdZiC Originally by: Emily Spankratchet rable rable rable rable . . . . . This Game By Chinese Communist Productions rable rable rable rable . . . . seriously, grow up a little - a publish date doesn't constitute a promise or a binding agreement, it's a date when they think they'll be ready, and if they're not ready, then OH WELL, that date gets pushed back till they ARE ready. honestly, what would you prefer? a broken product on a date announced what, a year or so ago, or a finished product that works and comes out WHEN IT'S READY? sniff sniff, they broke their promise, sniff sniff. I take it that you didn't understand the sense morale of what I wrote, so, 1. They suck at making PR for themselves, this way they loose credibility. 2. I'd rather w8 4 the release to the date it's ready not some promise that they cab't hold. 3. This isn't the first time Chinese Communist Productions makes/states a release date for something that isn't by far ready for release. Do you get it now, or do I have to explain to you even further ? This Game By Chinese Communist Productions
Metlec	Posted - 2006.08.15 08:04:00 - [32] Originally by: EnEs TaLuNdZiC I take it that you didn't understand the sense morale of what I wrote, so, 1. They suck at making PR for themselves, this way they loose credibility. 2. I'd rather w8 4 the release to the date it's ready not some promise that they cab't hold. 3. This isn't the first time Chinese Communist Productions makes/states a release date for something that isn't by far ready for release. Do you get it now, or do I have to explain to you even further ? This Game By Chinese Communist Productions If you don't like it you know where to go..
EnEs TaLuNdZiC	Posted - 2006.08.15 09:45:00 - [33] Edited by: EnEs TaLuNdZiC on 15/08/2006 09:50:07 Originally by: Metlec Originally by: EnEs TaLuNdZiC rable rable rable rable rable . . . . Do you get it now, or do I have to explain to you even further ? This Game By Chinese Communist Productions If you don't like it you know where to go.. AnOtHeR SmArT PoSt by you. You see, another explanation commin up. In order for something to evolve, get better, you need 2 talk about whats wrong and do something about it. But you would rather stagnate and die it seems. So go & die somwhere instead and I'll keep trying until I die. This Game By Chinese Communist Productions
Karl Shade FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.15 10:59:00 - [34] Originally by: EnEs TaLuNdZiC Edited by: EnEs TaLuNdZiC on 15/08/2006 09:50:07 Originally by: Metlec Originally by: EnEs TaLuNdZiC rable rable rable rable rable . . . . Do you get it now, or do I have to explain to you even further ? This Game By Chinese Communist Productions If you don't like it you know where to go.. AnOtHeR SmArT PoSt by you. You see, another explanation commin up. In order for something to evolve, get better, you need 2 talk about whats wrong and do something about it. But you would rather stagnate and die it seems. So go & die somwhere instead and I'll keep trying until I die. This Game By Chinese Communist Productions Stop abusing the poor quotes. Qoutes have feelings too. -
coolzero	Posted - 2006.08.15 11:52:00 - [35] http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=330 Quote: Kali One Release - September 2006 This is what we're aiming to release in Kali One. The list is created from a number of criteria, the main factors being a "Prerequisite for future release", "low risk, short development, big bang" or "we really need to get this done" project. * Contracts This is the most extensive addition in this release, something which will affect players of all ages. Gives you the ability to manage corporations offline and create "missions" for players and corporations alike. * Combat Organization The new seamless map with new system scanning, new gang features and better facilities for situational awareness. * Exploration Rewarding exploration of space, utilizing new system scanning and the new seamless view (see above), enabling you to discover escalating paths. This is a prerequisite for Next-Gen R&D, which will be used for gathering a plethora of R&D items. * Next-gen Research & Development We're opening up this aspect of EVE with Reverse Engineering and Invention, enabling you to create Tech II blueprint copies by gathering knowledge and technology through various means, such as exploration. * Combat Boosters Creates regional uniqueness for 8 regions, from 0.0 COSMOS constellations with unique resources to mini-professions and specialized starbase structures. A whole value chain will be created around these items, enabling players of all "ages" to be part of the bigger process. * Ship Upgrades & Salvaging of Shipwrecks This instantly creates content throughout the whole EVE universe. By making all destroyed ships - player and NPC alike - drop new ingredients, which are salvageable with the right profession skills and tools, we create a massive market for ingredients and ship upgrades, which the average EVE player can now utilize to further upgrade his own ship. * Tier-3 Battleships The third battleship will be added to all races. Battleships are one of the most frequently used ship classes in-game and the class has only had 2 ships for each race. It's time for the third Tier. * Tier-2 BattleCruisers This popular ship class receives its second battlecruiser to all races. * Eight New Regions We'll be opening up the eight existing but closed regions in the "top right" section of the universe (No, not Jove, just below them). They won't be owned by any NPC faction and there will be no conquerable stations, only ore and stuff. This is done to make room for more players. It will include various rogue NPC entities. This is our goal for September. Some of this will in all likelihood not make it, but now you have an idea of our intentions and what we want to achieve.
Entreri Finwe Caldari Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.15 12:12:00 - [36] Originally by: EnEs TaLuNdZiC Originally by: Pesky LaRue Originally by: EnEs TaLuNdZiC Originally by: Emily Spankratchet rable rable rable rable . . . . . This Game By Chinese Communist Productions rable rable rable rable . . . . seriously, grow up a little - a publish date doesn't constitute a promise or a binding agreement, it's a date when they think they'll be ready, and if they're not ready, then OH WELL, that date gets pushed back till they ARE ready. honestly, what would you prefer? a broken product on a date announced what, a year or so ago, or a finished product that works and comes out WHEN IT'S READY? sniff sniff, they broke their promise, sniff sniff. I take it that you didn't understand the sense morale of what I wrote, so, 1. They suck at making PR for themselves, this way they loose credibility. 2. I'd rather w8 4 the release to the date it's ready not some promise that they cab't hold. 3. This isn't the first time Chinese Communist Productions makes/states a release date for something that isn't by far ready for release. Do you get it now, or do I have to explain to you even further ? This Game By Chinese Communist Productions There's rarely any release date at all that are kept...this isn't something that detracts from CCP's reputation, all companies have this problem, it's not even limited to the gaming industry or even the computer industry... So, CCP had plans on releasing Kali in Q2, they told everyone this as alot of ppl wanted to know...some things came up (card games, unexpected delays, eve-china problem ect) and the development gets delayed, how do you propose they do then to meet the (to you) important dead-line of Q2? Try suing them... ---
fuze Gallente Chosen Path	Posted - 2006.08.15 12:38:00 - [37] If you look at from a marketing perspective they must have it finished before Xmas. Or even before if they don't wanna drown in the big new gamesfest. But tbh I don't mind they take so long. If they spend more time fixing stuff its way better than having to deal with yet another way too buggy update.
Ilmonstre Minmatar 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.08.15 12:46:00 - [38] Originally by: ZaKma I really doubt they will meet the deadline. It's not even on the test server yet. they never hit the testserver or not patches that chnage as much as kali will. did you see exodus hit the testserver nope dont think so, so going by the testserver isnt the way to go.
Great Artista Earthbound Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.15 13:44:00 - [39] HAHAH, you nubs think that Kali is coming this year?! ------------- ½Artista - One name. One legend.+ -Sloganizer.net
El Yatta Caldari Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2006.08.15 14:09:00 - [40] Originally by: Ilmonstre Originally by: ZaKma I really doubt they will meet the deadline. It's not even on the test server yet. they never hit the testserver or not patches that chnage as much as kali will. did you see exodus hit the testserver nope dont think so, so going by the testserver isnt the way to go. errrr, what? Exodus was on the testserver for almost a month: in fact, Exodus testing was what gave birth to SiSi (which was a typo on Singularity but seems to have stuck as the more populary name) as the test server -before Exodus testing we had Chaos and Entropy as test servers (one dev, one public, cant remember which was which). I remember flying a Brutix around (back when they were being tested with 2-3k grid, so I had all neutrons and i think like dual 100mm AB or someting, what fun) in the first week of Sisi going live with one of the Shiva (which was what Exodus was called before they launched it as Exodus) builds. ---\|\|---
EnEs TaLuNdZiC	Posted - 2006.08.16 11:13:00 - [41] Originally by: fuze If you look at from a marketing perspective they must have it finished before Xmas. Or even before if they don't wanna drown in the big new gamesfest. But tbh I don't mind they take so long. If they spend more time fixing stuff its way better than having to deal with yet another way too buggy update. u r DA man! Couldn't agree more! This Game By Chinese Communist Productions
Matthew Caldari BloodStar Technologies	Posted - 2006.08.16 11:33:00 - [42] Originally by: El Yatta Exodus was on the testserver for almost a month: in fact, Exodus testing was what gave birth to SiSi (which was a typo on Singularity but seems to have stuck as the more populary name) as the test server -before Exodus testing we had Chaos and Entropy as test servers (one dev, one public, cant remember which was which). Chaos was the public one, Entropy was the dev-only one iirc. Sisi was specifically built to allow larger-scale testing of Exodus (codenamed Shiva before release). Sisi was, and is, far more powerful than Chaos, and is far more similar to TQ than Chaos was (which is important for testing some stuff, especially cross-node requests etc). For those of you interested, we have: 4th Oct 04: Shiva testing on sisi signup open 25 Nov 04: exodus deployment +1 day The dates on those make me feel depressingly old ------- There is no magic Wand of Fixing, and it is not powered by forum whines.
EnEs TaLuNdZiC	Posted - 2006.08.16 14:26:00 - [43] Edited by: EnEs TaLuNdZiC on 16/08/2006 14:26:10 Originally by: Great Artista HAHAH, you nubs think that Kali is coming this year?! At least the two of us are laughing and having a fun time! Game Made By Chinese Communist Productions The Game, Where The Devs Think They Are VIP! In other words, We don't Give A VoK about your opinion!
Akira Kaneshiro Caldari Associated Press	Posted - 2006.08.16 20:29:00 - [44] Originally by: Great Artista HAHAH, you nubs think that Kali is coming this year?! /sign
Mr Popov Shadow Company Alektorophobia	Posted - 2006.08.16 20:47:00 - [45] OMG u guys. stop posting on the forums. The devs must read all the threads and posts on the forums first (especially the ones that say DEVS PLZ READ!) before they can work on Kali. So everyone, until September just don't post!12
Admiral Pieg Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.16 20:49:00 - [46] Im a bit annoyed that they havent even released pictures of the wrecks or the tier 3 ships this close to release. I mean what gives devs? ______________ Pod from above.
Caethes Adain Minmatar The Descendents	Posted - 2006.08.16 21:41:00 - [47] I think they can easily do it, some stuff is tested internally to make sure it wont brake the game. Hell, they could have got most of this done a month or two ago but they just needed to polish it. Just because we can't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Or something People dissapoint me. End my dissapointment.

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