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Byson1
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Posted - 2014.10.17 17:01:04 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:It should probably be noted, this isn't 'fixing Sov'.
It's a stop gap measure.
I dont see how it even helps unless your in a roaming goonswarm fleet that wants to destroy everything.. then yes this will help them considerably. |

Byson1
Zan Industries ZADA ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2014.10.17 17:09:46 -
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Zip Slings wrote:Makari Aeron wrote:Honestly, I don't feel they need a tweak. It can be done in SBs quite effectively. I've done it maaaaannyy times. Sit back, talk to your buddies on voice and blow through ammo. Honsetly, with the number of people the big entities can field they should be able to do it if little ol' Red-headed-step-Region Providence can do it. The whole point of these changes is that the "big entities" should not be the only ones with the ability to hold SOV
Ok so sov will be able to change hands faster, which will make holding sov less desirable for a small group that gets rolled every time the "big entities" send a small group to roll your sov. which now will be easier. they wont have to commit much to do so.
This is going to have an opposite effect than what they say they want.
Can I ask just one- well two- questions?
Do you have a vision of what you want, and will you please share that? 
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Byson1
Zan Industries ZADA ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2014.10.17 17:19:26 -
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Canaris Roshaak wrote:As much as I love that it will take me half as long to grind back 18 rental regions next time someone disbands, I think this might be a little overboard.
It takes 4 Triage niddy's* to 1-cycle triage rep a station from 0-25%. 2 to get it to 13%** (13%= the magic number if you kill the SBUs, as the recharge time brings it back to 25% before new sbus can come online)
6 Moroses to kill an SBU in 1 cycle.
What this means is I can have 10 dudes in dictors bubbling your fleet on titan/station/gates and if they can keep you pinned/delayed for 5 minutes I've saved the system. It also means I only need 10-16 caps to save almost any system in 5 minutes (1 set of 6 dreads per SBU required to get it under 50% control, 1-2 gate system=1 sbu to kill, 3-4 gate=2 sbus to kill. Most systems don't have more than 4 gates).
Toss on insurance, and even if you get past our dictors and manage to kill the caps, we've lost ~15bil, which is fairly trivial for any alliance holding null space currently. Add in if we do lose 1 16 man cap group, we still have 2 more timers to do this on.
This also means the number of capital caches I need per region are greatly decreased, as we can pack 50 caps into a central staging system, being able to simultaneously take care of 3-5 timers with ease.
Gotta say good work on most of the stuff so far CCP, but if I can find a way to abuse this in under an hour far smarter people than I have a much better/more efficient way already figured out.
*Note: Triage niddy=4 rep suicide fit(no tank all cap recharge) w/ tengu links for rep time calculation. 7-8 'standard' triage chimeras(3x rep 1x energy) will also 1-cycle rep a station 0-25% **13% may not be the 'magic-number' post change, depending on recharge times/etc math **** I don't care to work out I agree with your assessment. I think CCP is hoping this will spread fights out it will.
It will make it easy to fight on many fronts for small populated areas, but for more important systems nothing will change. |

Byson1
Zan Industries ZADA ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2014.10.17 17:21:51 -
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SFM Hobb3s wrote:As time goes on, the 'big' entities you speak of should shrink considerably. They will not be so 'big' later. I suppose it really depends on how much effort us players put into forcing those 'big' guys to shrink. At least CCP is now giving us an opportunity to do so, whereas we really had none before.
It will not be easy, for sure. Those big guys will go down kicking and screaming. But we CAN do it. And much more easily if a number of us are taking bites off the donut from different directions. But it is going to be lots of fun.
CCP Greyscale: Putting the Phun in Phoebe.
Yeah.. well.. let me know how that goes for you. Yes you may be able to take sove in a system they dont care about. Will it be hard for them to take it back? no.. so is it worth trying to hold sov if your small? NO |
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