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Liberty Eternal
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2011.11.25 21:07:00 -
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A nerd and his EVE are never parted ...
Either that, or we never learn 
Soo, I back again! I see it's gotten quieter since I was last here - how's socialism working out for ya, CCP? 
ABOUT ME
I'm a Jita trader. In my spare time I read my Ayn Rand books - it ain't illegal yet.
BOND
I would like to borrow 20 bil to get back into Jita trading. I'm hoping for an interest rate of 4% a month, with monthly rollovers. No collateral as I'm a day trader - no scammers or commies as investors pleese.
PREVIOUS EXPERIENCES AND LEARNING CURVE
I've ran 6 bonds in the past. The last one was for 35 bil and closed early after just one month due to burnout. All money was repaid with 15% interest but I got criticised heavily and deserved it - I really should have stuck the whole thing out [3 months].. but you live and learn.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1541281
AUDITS
I've had multiple audits in the past [now out of date though]
The most expensive one was Vahrokh's full audit, so I'll link that to get my isk's worth http://www.vahrokh.com/eve-online/audits/gfttixxbo052/
LINK TO ARCHIVES
Links to all audits and past bonds can be found in the archives here in the opening post of my last bond:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1523067
Thanks MD!
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Eddie Laydon
Power Absolute Absolute Damage Inc.
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Posted - 2011.11.25 21:25:00 -
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Hmm my spidey sense is tingling for some reason  |

Liberty Eternal
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2011.11.25 21:33:00 -
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Don't post here unless you're going to be supportive, Eddiy.
For all the cool people, you got my evemail. We can take to convo somewhere more.. exclusive.. if you don't want to be seen in the company of Eddey. |

OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.11.25 22:39:00 -
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What size chunks are you breaking it up into? I'm pretty cash poor atm, too much time on the forums, too little in-game.
PS Good to see you again comrade, not much action here lately. |

Liberty Eternal
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2011.11.25 23:09:00 -
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OllieNorth wrote:What size chunks are you breaking it up into? I'm pretty cash poor atm, too much time on the forums, too little in-game.
PS Good to see you again comrade, not much action here lately.
Likewise Mr North, I've always been a fan. I figure minimum chunks of 100's of millions will be manageable, I've used that size before and it's been ok to keep track of. But in principle, I'm open to any size of investment as it's good to get new players interested in MD. |

Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.11.25 23:44:00 -
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Hahaha somehow i read the title as "Winter Bondage" and was all    
On a serious note though, We are looking for a bit better rate, any room for movement?
SH
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Liberty Eternal
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2011.11.25 23:50:00 -
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Stealing Honest wrote:Hahaha somehow i read the title as "Winter Bondage" and was all     On a serious note though, We are looking for a bit better rate, any room for movement? SH
lol - don't knock the rate, I learned the low-rate trick from you, Mr 2.5% !! 
Well.. the market is King and there is no collateral, so I suppose there is a little wriggle-room, depending on offers/demands received - I'll see how it's playing out by the time I log in tomorrow and play it from there  |

Gatan Hahran
Brukterer DUCT TAPE UNION
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Posted - 2011.11.26 00:03:00 -
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Liberty Eternal wrote: The last one was for 35 bil and closed early after just one month due to burnout.
from old forum:
Gatan Hahran wrote:That would be right if i had read about your previous bonds, but in true psychic octopus style i have avoided all the data! However, if you dont burnout making more than 5b every month (which would still leave no profit for yourself) or scam, or both, i offer free psychic octopus service for you.
Im sorry, but it looks like you have to PAY for my psychic octopus service. |

Eddie Laydon
Power Absolute Absolute Damage Inc.
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Posted - 2011.11.26 01:19:00 -
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Liberty Eternal wrote:Don't post here unless you're going to be supportive, Eddiy.
For all the cool people, you got my evemail. We can take to convo somewhere more.. exclusive.. if you don't want to be seen in the company of Eddey.
 You spelled my name wrong... The only thing worse than spelling a mans name wrong is spelling it wrong twice. You've done it now, prepare to be trolled! |

Mike'P
Kansas City Industrial One Stop Research
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Posted - 2011.11.26 02:06:00 -
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Liberty Eternal wrote: I'm hoping for an interest rate of 4% a month, with monthly rollovers. No collateral as I'm a day trader - no scammers or commies as investors please.
Hopefully I'll avoid the last two categories by offering 500 mill at 5% or 1 bill at 6%.
I took the word 'hoping' at face value...
Cheers,
Mike'P |

Liberty Eternal
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2011.11.26 15:16:00 -
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Gatan Hahran wrote:Liberty Eternal wrote: The last one was for 35 bil and closed early after just one month due to burnout.
from old forum: Gatan Hahran wrote:That would be right if i had read about your previous bonds, but in true psychic octopus style i have avoided all the data! However, if you dont burnout making more than 5b every month (which would still leave no profit for yourself) or scam, or both, i offer free psychic octopus service for you. Im sorry, but it looks like you have to PAY for my psychic octopus service.
I've always wanted a psychic octopus... how much do you charge? And what's your prognosis on this bond?
Eddie Ladyon wrote: You spelled my name wrong... The only thing worse than spelling a mans name wrong is spelling it wrong twice. You've done it now, prepare to be trolled!
Sorry Eddie, I was really tired
Mike'P wrote:Hopefully I'll avoid the last two categories by offering 500 mill at 5% or 1 bill at 6%.
I took the word 'hoping' at face value...
Cheers,
Mike'P
You're the second one to suggest me interest rates ain't generous enuff - so I is raising it to 5% - I'll take your 500, and if you want to offer the full billion at 5% - why, that would be most gracious towards poor liberty...
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Gatan Hahran
Brukterer DUCT TAPE UNION
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Posted - 2011.11.26 16:23:00 -
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Liberty Eternal wrote:Gatan Hahran wrote:Liberty Eternal wrote: The last one was for 35 bil and closed early after just one month due to burnout.
from old forum: Gatan Hahran wrote:That would be right if i had read about your previous bonds, but in true psychic octopus style i have avoided all the data! However, if you dont burnout making more than 5b every month (which would still leave no profit for yourself) or scam, or both, i offer free psychic octopus service for you. Im sorry, but it looks like you have to PAY for my psychic octopus service. I've always wanted a psychic octopus... how much do you charge? And what's your prognosis on this bond?
I fear the morality of my psychic octopus suffered a bit since he came back from Standard & Poor's. They taught him very bad things and he instructed me to tell you that his prognosis is directly related to the amount of ISK you pay him. Dont expect anything good below 5b isk! |

OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.11.26 18:57:00 -
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I'll have to sit this one out, I am pretty much ISK dry at the moment, good luck on the bond though. |

Liberty Eternal
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2011.11.26 19:54:00 -
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No worries Ollie, thanks for the interest.
First reservation for 1.5 bil by evemail
Reservations:
The Pear 1.5 bil
This will probably take a few days to complete as I can see that MD really has kinda died  |

GavinCapacitor
CaeIum Incognitum
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Posted - 2011.11.26 23:49:00 -
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Liberty Eternal wrote:
In my spare time I read my Ayn Rand books - it ain't illegal yet.
Then why on earth would you expect people to lend you money?
P.S. Politically charged crap like that usually isnt the best way to attract investors. |

Liberty Eternal
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2011.11.26 23:56:00 -
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GavinCapacitor wrote:Liberty Eternal wrote:
In my spare time I read my Ayn Rand books - it ain't illegal yet.
Then why on earth would you expect people to lend you money? P.S. Politically charged crap like that usually isnt the best way to attract investors.
Profit
P.S. I never back down or apologise to commies, so take a walk 
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Liberty Eternal
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2011.11.27 20:56:00 -
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6.5 bil has now been reserved, leaving 13.5 bil remaining. This is filling slowly so I will officially launch the bond on Wednesday if that's ok with my investors. Then I will make end-of-month interest payments and updates.
Garret Herveaux - 5 bil The Pear - 1.5 bil |

Tom Hagen
Twilight Empire Blazing Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.28 11:49:00 -
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I can agree with you that MD has lost several prominent posters. But also I believe this is really a bad time to launch a bond with the patch coming up and everything. If I didn't believe my ISK served me better in other places I would have sent you some of my ISK ;-)
Good luck LE! |

Mike'P
Kansas City Industrial One Stop Research
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Posted - 2011.11.28 19:57:00 -
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Hi Liberty,
Put me down for 500 mill, please. I'll wire the ISKies over later this evening...
Cheers,
Mike'P.
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Liberty Eternal
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2011.11.28 20:06:00 -
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Thanks Tom Investor list updates in main post to confirm two more entrants. This bond may not fill completely by Wednesday so I will leave it open to fill up over December, and start with whatever I've collected by November end [Wednesday]. |

Liberty Eternal
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2011.11.28 20:08:00 -
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Thanks Tom Investor list updates in main post to confirm two more entrants. This bond may not fill completely by Wednesday so I will leave it open to fill up over December, and start with whatever I've collected by November end [Wednesday]. |

Gatan Hahran
Brukterer DUCT TAPE UNION
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Posted - 2011.11.28 22:42:00 -
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Liberty Eternal wrote:Garret Herveaux - 5 bil
My psychic octopus told me that something is wrong about your main investor, so i tried searching for him ingame, turned out no character with this name exists. I said to myself, no way, Liberty Eternal is a honest businessman, who would never lie to MD. NEVER. So i tried to search for Garett Herveaux instead, and i was happy again. Garett Herveaux exists, a legit 3 month old NPC corp entrepreneur investing..ehm.. 5 .. billion.
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Liberty Eternal
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2011.11.30 02:44:00 -
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Gatan Hahran wrote:Liberty Eternal wrote:Garret Herveaux - 5 bil
My psychic octopus told me that something is wrong about your main investor, so i tried searching for him ingame, turned out no character with this name exists. I said to myself, no way, Liberty Eternal is a honest businessman, who would never lie to MD. NEVER. So i tried to search for Garet t Herveaux instead, and i was happy again. Garett Herveaux exists, a legit 3 month old NPC corp entrepreneur investing..ehm.. 5 .. billion.
Thanks for correcting the spelling error, that could have been expensive He is almost certainly an alt of a wealthier and more established player, many investors protect themselves by investing through alts. Investors have a right to privacy so I won't try to find out who it is.
I've had a couple of investment updates which have been put on the first post.
This bond is now open, all investors please send isk. I will leave the bond open to slowly fill over december - current list of investors is as follows:
Garrett Herveaux - 5 bil The Pear - 1.5 bil Mike'P - 500 mil Paukinra - 500 mil Corbexx - 1 bil
Interest payments will be on the last day of each month, and investors can withdraw their isk at any time without a problem - just evemail me and I'll send it back within a day or two as cashflow allows.
Many thanks!
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corbexx
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2011.11.30 10:37:00 -
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isk sent this morning |

Rojo Ocho
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.30 18:31:00 -
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I'll invest 1b in this, I'll send the isk when i get home from work |

Liberty Eternal
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2011.12.01 00:59:00 -
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Rojo Ocho wrote:I'll invest 1b in this, I'll send the isk when i get home from work
Many thanks Investor list and status updated on first post. |

Rojo Ocho
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.01 02:39:00 -
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Isk sent |

Zions Child
Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.01 02:43:00 -
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Although I have a distaste for Randians, what with your complete lack of human compassion, I would be interested in providing 1 bill at 5%. Still open for it? |

Liberty Eternal
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2011.12.01 03:02:00 -
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Zions Child wrote:Although I have a distaste for Randians, what with your complete lack of human compassion, I would be interested in providing 1 bill at 5%. Still open for it?
Thank-you for the offer, but I won't deal with you if it's your premise that I am immoral.
@Rojo Ocho - isk received, many thanks  |

Herrington Vance
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.01 03:45:00 -
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Liberty Eternal wrote:if it's your premise that I am immoral.
heh |
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