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Eleanor Wish
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.10 17:25:00 -
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Well done CCP! |

Nevil Oscillator
10
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Posted - 2014.10.10 17:34:00 -
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Really Unlimited ? I can train Scrap Metal Processing to 6 now ? Always remember that mining is a big fat yorkie eating working mans environment. Not for Girls As for Distribution |

Notorious Fellon
345
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Posted - 2014.10.10 17:40:00 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Really Unlimited ? I can train Scrap Metal Processing to 6 now ?
Unlimited time, fool. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
6396
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Posted - 2014.10.10 17:44:00 -
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Props for spelling queue properly.
Mr Epeen  There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
2144
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Posted - 2014.10.10 17:44:00 -
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Queue ALL of the things! BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
17034
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Posted - 2014.10.10 17:54:00 -
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Hold on..
The real question will be..
Will you still need the prerequisite skills trained before being able to inject new skillbooks.. or will we be able to add the new skillbooks to the queue as long as the prerequisite skills are in the queue?
I wont be excited until this is answered. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
521
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:00:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Hold on..
The real question will be..
Will you still need the prerequisite skills trained before being able to inject new skillbooks.. or will we be able to add the new skillbooks to the queue as long as the prerequisite skills are in the queue?
I wont be excited until this is answered. You'll almost certainly still need to have all of the prerequisites actually trained, not just queued, before injecting a skill from a skillbook. Otherwise, what would happen if you queued up a prerequisite, injected a skill, and then canceled the prerequisite?
EDIT: Also...YESSSSSSSSS! CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I want to create content, not become content. |

Notorious Fellon
345
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:01:00 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Hold on..
The real question will be..
Will you still need the prerequisite skills trained before being able to inject new skillbooks.. or will we be able to add the new skillbooks to the queue as long as the prerequisite skills are in the queue?
I wont be excited until this is answered. You'll almost certainly still need to have all of the prerequisites actually trained, not just queued, before injecting a skill from a skillbook. Otherwise, what would happen if you queued up a prerequisite, injected a skill, and then canceled the prerequisite? EDIT: Also... YESSSSSSSSS!
Well, it could simply check the queue for pre-reqs not being met. Not all that hard to code. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
17034
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:03:00 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote: You'll almost certainly still need to have all of the prerequisites actually trained, not just queued, before injecting a skill from a skillbook. Otherwise, what would happen if you queued up a prerequisite, injected a skill, and then canceled the prerequisite?
EDIT: Also...YESSSSSSSSS!
of course there would need to be a system in place where if you deleted a pre-req from the queue, than all non-complaint skills would also be removed from the queue. That's a given.
But if you think about it, not having the ability to do this would make unlimited skill queues kinda... well, slightly less awesome. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
1496
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:20:00 -
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never not have minmatar titan V as your backup skill |

Brandon Shi
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:22:00 -
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nice I like this change |

Ms Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
46
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:24:00 -
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Rowells wrote:never not have minmatar titan V as your backup skill
Ragnarok? Waste of skill points.  |

Jur Tissant
Unreal Darkness
258
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:25:00 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote: You'll almost certainly still need to have all of the prerequisites actually trained, not just queued, before injecting a skill from a skillbook. Otherwise, what would happen if you queued up a prerequisite, injected a skill, and then canceled the prerequisite?
That wouldn't be a difficult fix... just don't let them queue up Lvl 1 in a skill before the prereq. |

The Forum Alt
Hedion University Amarr Empire
42
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:27:00 -
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Ms Forum Alt wrote:Rowells wrote:never not have minmatar titan V as your backup skill Ragnarok? Waste of skill points. 
But I am THE Forum Alt. |

Chiller
4 Marketeers Rura-Penthe
4
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:29:00 -
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This is an outstanding change!
This is one of the best player focused changes in a long, long time.
Skilling a character should not be a part time job.
About time.
Thanks CCP for finally doing the right thing on this one. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
17037
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:31:00 -
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The Forum Alt wrote:Ms Forum Alt wrote:Rowells wrote:never not have minmatar titan V as your backup skill Ragnarok? Waste of skill points.  But I am THE Forum Alt.
So.. youre saying that ALL skill points in your case are a waste? Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

The Forum Alt
Hedion University Amarr Empire
42
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:33:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:The Forum Alt wrote:Ms Forum Alt wrote:Rowells wrote:never not have minmatar titan V as your backup skill Ragnarok? Waste of skill points.  But I am THE Forum Alt. So.. youre saying that ALL skill points in your case are a waste?
Since there is not yet a forum warrior skill then yes, any skills are a waste. |

flakeys
Arkham Innovations
2513
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:35:00 -
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Time to go eve offline i guess 
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5685
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:37:00 -
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Omgomgomgomg! =]I[= |

Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
522
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:46:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Good sir, I think you win the Internet today. Well played. CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I want to create content, not become content. |

Livonia Velorea
The Fiendish Pixies
41
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:46:00 -
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Whoop! Whoop! I pew you too! <3 |

flakeys
Arkham Innovations
2514
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:51:00 -
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On the brighter side looks like CCP finally learned how governments can implement higher taxes while people still think they ''won'' .
Just start by saying your gonna nerf every capital ship and then lower it down to mostly nerfing combat capitals and adding something silly like an unlimited skillqeue and everyone is screaming how awsome the new changes are ... 
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Satisfry
Tribal Liberation Force
0
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Posted - 2014.10.10 19:03:00 -
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flakeys wrote:We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
I don't understand your signature. Does this mean I'm stupid or ignorant... or are they both the same thing???  |

Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1311
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Posted - 2014.10.10 19:25:00 -
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Satisfry wrote:flakeys wrote:We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid. I don't understand your signature. Does this mean I'm stupid or ignorant... or are they both the same thing??? 
All it means to me is that he is stupid because he is obviously subbed to a game only to queu some skills since an unlimitted skillqueu addition to the game make him confirm he won't log in anymore. Paying a sub for a game you don't really play is a good definition for stupid imo. |

flakeys
Arkham Innovations
2515
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Posted - 2014.10.10 19:33:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Satisfry wrote:flakeys wrote:We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid. I don't understand your signature. Does this mean I'm stupid or ignorant... or are they both the same thing???  All it means to me is that he is stupid because he is obviously subbed to a game only to queu some skills since an unlimitted skillqueu addition to the game make him confirm he won't log in anymore. Paying a sub for a game you don't really play is a good definition for stupid imo.
But then you assuming i pay for my sub when i make it clear i currently lack interest in playing might show your ignorance .I plex my account mate and i got more then a year of sub left on my account at the moment.I love the game , or love the game as it used to be to be more precise and who knows maybe sometime soon i will get that feeling back again.
And if you don't understand the sig btw then that only makes the sig more appropriate .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Nar' alk Breau
University of Caille Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2014.10.10 19:42:00 -
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I just might not un-sub all my accounts because of this. Finally, something that I've been wishing for since the first day I began playing eve. |

Nevil Oscillator
11
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Posted - 2014.10.10 20:51:00 -
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Ms Forum Alt wrote:Rowells wrote:never not have minmatar titan V as your backup skill Ragnarok? Waste of skill points. 
I actually called my first Rupture Ragnarok with knowing there was another minmatar ship called a Ragnarok, it didn't live up to it's name at the first lowsec gate camp, since then I have called all my ships Concord Billboard. Always remember that mining is a big fat yorkie eating working mans environment. Not for Girls As for Distribution |

Tarpedo
Incursionista
1396
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Posted - 2014.10.10 20:59:00 -
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Now I'll be able to activate account for N months, queue all the skills I want - and go play other games until EVE will get actually interesting update. Dream come true \o/
p.s. I bet online numbers will be even lower after this update. |

Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
77
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Posted - 2014.10.10 22:08:00 -
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flakeys wrote:On the brighter side looks like CCP finally learned how governments can implement higher taxes while people still think they ''won'' . Because higher taxes can and do go into programs that benefit the people? Just a thought.
flakeys wrote:Just start by saying your gonna nerf every capital ship and then lower it down to mostly nerfing combat capitals and adding something silly like an unlimited skillqeue and everyone is screaming how awsome the new changes are ...  Well... they are awesome. Alt of [redacted on advice from a reputable internet spaceships lawyer] |

Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10790
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Posted - 2014.10.10 22:52:00 -
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This is clearly a nerf to whining on the forums. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

Nevil Oscillator
11
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Posted - 2014.10.10 22:59:00 -
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I'm not sure they do need to nerf half these things, they probably only do it to make the game a bit less predictable. Always remember that mining is a big fat yorkie eating working mans environment. Not for Girls As for Distribution |

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
3587
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Posted - 2014.10.10 23:43:00 -
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So... That's how it's going to be, eh? An unlimited supply of things fed to you with a silver spoon, eh? And mommy wiping your little tushes. So much for the age of personal responsibility and accountability.... ::shakes head, grumbles off...:: "Were [sic] not your monkey and so what?"-á -The Sex Pistols (2006) |

Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10794
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Posted - 2014.10.10 23:54:00 -
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I'm sorry, Khergit ... but whoever told you that this is the age of personal responsibility and accountability ... ... was probably born within the last 20 years.
Society is moving faaaar away from that ... ... and lots of people on the forums clearly prove this.
Sorry. :/ *hugs* :\ I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
2030
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Posted - 2014.10.11 00:05:00 -
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Re: Unlimited skill queue:
Haymitch Approves!
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |

Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
24292
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Posted - 2014.10.11 06:21:00 -
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The Forum Alt wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:The Forum Alt wrote:Ms Forum Alt wrote:Rowells wrote:never not have minmatar titan V as your backup skill Ragnarok? Waste of skill points.  But I am THE Forum Alt. So.. youre saying that ALL skill points in your case are a waste? Since there is not yet a forum warrior skill then yes, any skills are a waste. TIL I wasted 4 years training useless skills. Frostys Virpio > CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase
I like to gank it, gank it!
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations
2520
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Posted - 2014.10.11 09:12:00 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:flakeys wrote:On the brighter side looks like CCP finally learned how governments can implement higher taxes while people still think they ''won'' . Because higher taxes can and do go into programs that benefit the people? Just a thought.
You mean just like the jumpnerf is put in place to benefit the people ? 
Primary This Rifter wrote:flakeys wrote:Just start by saying your gonna nerf every capital ship and then lower it down to mostly nerfing combat capitals and adding something silly like an unlimited skillqeue and everyone is screaming how awsome the new changes are ...  Well... they are awesome.
I have to agree on this 
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
886
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Posted - 2014.10.11 13:28:00 -
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Why do people think this will have a big impact on online players? If you were logging in just to change skills, it isn't like you were significantly affecting the count in the first place.
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Kucial Kinan
Kinani Consortium
1029
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Posted - 2014.10.11 13:46:00 -
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Finally. Much less time involved to manage multiple accounts, now. |

Hicksimus
Torgue
362
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Posted - 2014.10.11 15:42:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Hold on..
The real question will be..
Will you still need the prerequisite skills trained before being able to inject new skillbooks.. or will we be able to add the new skillbooks to the queue as long as the prerequisite skills are in the queue?
I wont be excited until this is answered.
Well that sounds like a limitation. Do you have it? |

Nevil Oscillator
15
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Posted - 2014.10.11 15:47:00 -
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Kucial Kinan wrote:Finally. Much less time involved to manage multiple accounts, now.
Please elaborate because I haven't noticed the difference, do I really have to go read the patch notes ? Always remember that mining is a big fat yorkie eating working mans environment. Not for Girls As for Distribution |

Jace Sarice
Caldari State
15759
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Posted - 2014.10.11 20:18:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:So... That's how it's going to be, eh? An unlimited supply of things fed to you with a silver spoon, eh? And mommy wiping your little tushes. So much for the age of personal responsibility and accountability.... ::shakes head, grumbles off...::
Just head to the nursing home already and leave those of us alone that still have lives to live. |

Nevil Oscillator
15
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Posted - 2014.10.12 00:25:00 -
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What about not having to remove all the skills when you want to deactivate a training queue to swap to a different character ? Always remember that mining is a big fat yorkie eating working mans environment. Not for Girls As for Distribution |

Jace Sarice
Caldari State
15801
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Posted - 2014.10.12 00:51:00 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:What about not having to remove all the skills when you want to deactivate a training queue to swap to a different character ?
You do realize the pause button exists, right? Or am I misunderstanding your problem? |

Nevil Oscillator
16
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Posted - 2014.10.12 01:05:00 -
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Jace Sarice wrote:Nevil Oscillator wrote:What about not having to remove all the skills when you want to deactivate a training queue to swap to a different character ? You do realize the pause button exists, right? Or am I misunderstanding your problem?
So that's what that does. Always remember that mining is a big fat yorkie eating working mans environment. Not for Girls As for Distribution |

Revman Zim
Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda
258
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Posted - 2014.10.12 05:41:00 -
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Yeah, I agree that this is a change that has been WANTED by the EVE player base for quite some time.
HOWEVER, its timing does seem to be an effort to quell some of the shitstorm of incoming force-projection changes and future SOV changes.
What other changes are being held back for this purpose? |

Mag's
the united
17927
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Posted - 2014.10.12 07:05:00 -
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Revman Zim wrote:Yeah, I agree that this is a change that has been WANTED by the EVE player base for quite some time.
HOWEVER, its timing does seem to be an effort to quell some of the shitstorm of incoming force-projection changes and future SOV changes.
What other changes are being held back for this purpose? It's a known tactic that has been used by politicians for years.
Wanted or not, it still leaves a foul taste.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1585
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Posted - 2014.10.12 07:12:00 -
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Mag's wrote:It's a known tactic that has been used by politicians for years.
Wanted or not, it still leaves a foul taste. Or possibly it's all the back end recoding that is making the sov changes possible now that is also making changes like this possible now. You know, just to come up with another theory as to why it's only happened now.
Rather than rumour mongering for no reason. |

Scout Vyvorant
University of Caille Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2014.10.12 07:39:00 -
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I find this thread totally amusing!
Not much time ago, when people asked about a longer skill queue (48 hours, people didn't even dare to ask for unlimited) the posts degenerated so quickly among insults and people just posting "no" in an apex force of asperger syndrome, it was locked in a matter of minutes.
Now CCP give us something beyond every poster wildest dream and people clap their hands. The coherence of these forums will never cease to amaze me. |

Nevil Oscillator
16
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Posted - 2014.10.12 07:45:00 -
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I only posted here because someone said you get a free Gecko Always remember that mining is a big fat yorkie eating working mans environment. Not for Girls As for Distribution |

Steppa Musana
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
210
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Posted - 2014.10.12 10:21:00 -
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So many threads not whining about a change.
Not sure if this is a good thing, or still just annoying spam. Hey guys. |

Erin Crawford
300
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Posted - 2014.10.12 10:39:00 -
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Scout Vyvorant wrote:I find this thread totally amusing!
Not much time ago, when people asked about a longer skill queue (48 hours, people didn't even dare to ask for unlimited) the posts degenerated so quickly among insults and people just posting "no" in an apex force of asperger syndrome, it was locked in a matter of minutes.
Now CCP give us something beyond every poster wildest dream and people clap their hands. The coherence of these forums will never cease to amaze me. I've noticed this too. Seems like the overall mood of GD has 'chilled' a little over the past two weeks or so - I just noticed a change over that period. Could be nothing... Maybe it's just me... |

Kuldrek Culduvere
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.10.15 06:51:00 -
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Satisfry wrote:flakeys wrote:We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid. I don't understand your signature. Does this mean I'm stupid or ignorant... or are they both the same thing??? 
Stupidity and ignorance are not the same thing. The difference is that ignorance can be cured.
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
77
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Posted - 2014.10.15 07:29:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Revman Zim wrote:Yeah, I agree that this is a change that has been WANTED by the EVE player base for quite some time.
HOWEVER, its timing does seem to be an effort to quell some of the shitstorm of incoming force-projection changes and future SOV changes.
What other changes are being held back for this purpose? It's a known tactic that has been used by politicians for years. Wanted or not, it still leaves a foul taste. You do realize that just because sometimes things happen at the same time doesn't mean they're related, right? Alt of [redacted on advice from a reputable internet spaceships lawyer] |

Vorll Minaaran
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
38
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Posted - 2014.10.15 08:58:00 -
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Hail for my SkillQueue Online! :) |

Limp Wristed Wimp
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.10.15 15:24:00 -
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I hate to mention this, since everyone is luvvin this unlimited skill queue thing ---
Buuuut ---- They never said if it was going to COST anything or not.
I mean, not too long ago they announced skilling a second character -- for PLEX. Seems logical that another change to skilling mechanics would cost PLEX too... right? 
"Unlimited" as in, as long as you keep paying the fee. |

Aralieus
The Inf1dels
222
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Posted - 2014.10.16 00:58:00 -
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flakeys wrote:On the brighter side looks like CCP finally learned how governments can implement higher taxes while people still think they ''won'' . Just start by saying your gonna nerf every capital ship and then lower it down to mostly nerfing combat capitals and adding something silly like an unlimited skillqeue and everyone is screaming how awsome the new changes are ... 
Indeed
Yes, some of us saw what you did there Oderint Dum Metuant |

45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
102
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Posted - 2014.10.16 02:12:00 -
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When CCP said unlimited skill training but it is still limited to your game time.
Just a thought
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3420

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Posted - 2014.10.16 06:20:00 -
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Quote:17. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread. Thread closed. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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