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Debolika Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2006.08.14 15:54:00 - [1] Seriously, there is no cruiser that even compares to the Caracal, and the BC and BS's available are a complete joke too... Is there some RP element I am missing here? Are Caldari supposed to have the upper hand with everything in this game? I chose Amarr Ni'Kunni for their story back drop, it appealed to me most, yet my ships will always be inferior to Caldari... From what I gather, over 75% of cruisers, BC and BS's are all Caldari... So why even bother with the other 3 races? At least throw in a couple of models that can do over 3 launcher turrets... Being as new as I am, finding out this disparity this weekend basically forced me to either relearn Caldari ships, wasting even more time or simply moving on to another game... I chose the latter, sucks too, this game would be the very best around if it wasn't for the 'I win' button that is the Caldari ship types... Balance is one thing, but making the experience enjoyable is another... 5 missle turrets or 5 laser beams, hmmmmm, which sounds more fun to you? 400x120@24000 bytes Max. -Capsicum
Lt Angus Caldari Sigma-Defect	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:05:00 - [2] Edited by: Lt Angus on 14/08/2006 16:05:21 The caldari have the raven and caracal but the rest are junk
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:06:00 - [3] You pick any Caldari ship and I will beat it with a ship of the same class from another race. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Laythun Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:07:00 - [4] u bother with other races ecause you dont want to be on the bandwagon. *See You In Space Cowboy*
Spiderweb Caldari GENERIC RACE Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:09:00 - [5] Originally by: Debolika Seriously, there is no cruiser that even compares to the Caracal, and the BC and BS's available are a complete joke too... Is there some RP element I am missing here? Are Caldari supposed to have the upper hand with everything in this game? I chose Amarr Ni'Kunni for their story back drop, it appealed to me most, yet my ships will always be inferior to Caldari... From what I gather, over 75% of cruisers, BC and BS's are all Caldari... So why even bother with the other 3 races? At least throw in a couple of models that can do over 3 launcher turrets... Being as new as I am, finding out this disparity this weekend basically forced me to either relearn Caldari ships, wasting even more time or simply moving on to another game... I chose the latter, sucks too, this game would be the very best around if it wasn't for the 'I win' button that is the Caldari ship types... Balance is one thing, but making the experience enjoyable is another... 5 missle turrets or 5 laser beams, hmmmmm, which sounds more fun to you? Sorry to say this but you are face full stuck in a pile of ... ignorance. Go around the forums and check. Caldari are particularly good at PVE thats all. for PVP they can do the best EW out of all but thats all there is. Now go read through forums and ask friends that have a basic sense of EVE ship balance and then come back here again with your offensive whines. get some cheese on the way, w(h)ine goes well with it ----------------------------------------------- "Light, in the Darkest of Hours..."
Calisto Cody Minmatar The Black Swan Society	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:10:00 - [6] Originally by: Avon You pick any Caldari ship and I will beat it with a ship of the same class from another race. now thats a challenge, accept Debolika? :D What makes a man? Is it the woman in his arms? Just 'cause she has big ***** Or is the way He fights everyday? No, it's probably the *****
HolographicEntrypoint The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:10:00 - [7] So a Rupture, Thorax or Maller can't beat a caracal... interesting. --- ^ Custom Sigs for ISK, learning rights on sourcefiles My custom Sigs Gallery
Moghydin Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:11:00 - [8] Yes, Amarr ships look like 2-nd grade nearly at anything. I can't say that all Caldari ships are that good, but compared to Amarr, they are. Let's say Amarr ships don't have any ship that would be the best in its class.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:13:00 - [9] Caldari are the best in the beginning... maybe thats what you mean. Missiles hit for good damage with practicly no training at all compared to guns. Later on, guns catch up abit... even though Raven remains one of the best battleships even for pvp. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Double TaP The Establishment	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:13:00 - [10] Originally by: Avon You pick any Caldari ship and I will beat it with a ship of the same class from another race. HOLY GOD QFT. SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS. I have a caldari specialized and a gallente specialized character. I didn't really like BoB much til right now.
Double TaP The Establishment	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:14:00 - [11] Originally by: Laythun u bother with other races ecause you dont want to be on the bandwagon. No you bother with other races, dont know what you're doing, and then get on the bandwagon of "CALDARI OVURPOWRD!!1"
Dixon Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:17:00 - [12] Edited by: Dixon on 14/08/2006 16:21:07 Where are all those overpowered Caldari ships? I have a hangar full of caldari ships and I hate them all... hell I even like Amarr ships more. Quote: From what I gather, over 75% of cruisers, BC and BS's are all Caldari That's the worst load of dogpoo I've ever seen posted on these forums. The last stats I saw on the matter the only really popular caldari ship was the Raven, just above the Megathron and Apoc in BS popularity - but I suspect that's largely due to lvl4 missions. - - - - - - I have no strong feelings one way or the other...
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:19:00 - [13] What I don't get, is nothing is stopping anyone from cross-training races. Why all the angst? Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback.
Moghydin Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:23:00 - [14] Originally by: Avernus What I don't get, is nothing is stopping anyone from cross-training races. Why all the angst? The angst is because some ppl spent time training for ships that are less good. And aren't all races should be somewhat equal in the ship strengths? I doubt we want to see the situation where 40% will use Caldari and 50% will use Gallente ships.
Caleb Paine Infinite Technologies	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:23:00 - [15] short sightedness, ignorance, being emo, lazyness (mostly of the brain) Looking for a corp? INCH caters for mature players, VERY newbie friendly
Dixon Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:27:00 - [16] Originally by: Moghydin Originally by: Avernus What I don't get, is nothing is stopping anyone from cross-training races. Why all the angst? The angst is because some ppl spent time training for ships that are less good. And aren't all races should be somewhat equal in the ship strengths? I doubt we want to see the situation where 40% will use Caldari and 50% will use Gallente ships. Have you trained caldari yet? - - - - - - I have no strong feelings one way or the other...
Jenny Spitfire Caldari LoneStar Industries Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:32:00 - [17] Originally by: Debolika From what I gather, over 75% of cruisers, BC and BS's are all Caldari... ... huh? ... ---------------- Cruelty is God's way of showing kindness.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:35:00 - [18] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Debolika From what I gather, over 75% of cruisers, BC and BS's are all Caldari... ... huh? ... Basicly the guy is still in the caldari mission running systems and havent checked out the rest of the universe. When i was mission running, I only saw caracals and ravens and feroxes too. Its no mystery. :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:35:00 - [19] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Debolika From what I gather, over 75% of cruisers, BC and BS's are all Caldari... ... huh? ... 75% of all Cruisers, BC's & BS's in the game are Caldari. I think that is what he was trying to say. I have no idea if that's true or not... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Tharrn Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:38:00 - [20] Edited by: Tharrn on 14/08/2006 16:38:19 Don't have my E-ON's handy here, but isn't there a 'Most used ship of type X' thingy somewhere in each issue? Now recruiting!
Jenny Spitfire Caldari LoneStar Industries Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:42:00 - [21] Originally by: Bhaal 75% of all Cruisers, BC's & BS's in the game are Caldari. I think that is what he was trying to say. I have no idea if that's true or not... Oh. I doubt it is true. Top ship sellers are Brutix, Ferox, Rupture, Thorax, Vexor, Caracal, Cyclone, Prophecy and Omen. ---------------- Cruelty is God's way of showing kindness.
tookar Amarr Krookid	Posted - 2006.08.14 16:49:00 - [22] There were some stats posted a couple of months back about bs in all of eve and from what i remember just under 50% of the bs in eve were ravens . Go to any 0.0 space and try to catch a ratter and he will be in a raven (if in a bs) 80% of the time too . In fact the only place that ravens dont really have a role is in large sniping fleet ops (they are pretty uber in small gang warfare as they can tank like hell dish good damage and still fit 2 stabs ) . Needless to say the caldari get a sniping bs in the tier 3 bs so they can have a bit of everything I seem to remember jenny spitfire posting in a thread a few weeks back " Cladari are not overpowered its just that they are the only balanced race" No offence jenny i think your cool but that was funny :)
Naran Darkmood Gallente MC Cubed Inc	Posted - 2006.08.14 18:03:00 - [23] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Debolika From what I gather, over 75% of cruisers, BC and BS's are all Caldari... ... huh? ... Basicly the guy is still in the caldari mission running systems and havent checked out the rest of the universe. When i was mission running, I only saw caracals and ravens and feroxes too. Its no mystery. :) And I bump into Domis all the time ----------------------------------------------- Warning: The above post may contain irony or sarcasm. If you are not fit to handle this, go the the beginning and start deleting the post from yopu
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.14 18:06:00 - [24] Originally by: Tharrn Edited by: Tharrn on 14/08/2006 16:38:19 Don't have my E-ON's handy here, but isn't there a 'Most used ship of type X' thingy somewhere in each issue? I just remember Rifter being more popular than Kestrel.. that was cool. :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Ujio Noki Puppets on Steroids Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.14 18:07:00 - [25] Originally by: Debolika or simply moving on to another game... can i have your stuff?
Tao Han Caldari Crucial Electronics	Posted - 2006.08.14 18:18:00 - [26] Originally by: Ujio Noki Originally by: Debolika or simply moving on to another game... can i have your stuff? Bah, beaten to it...
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.14 18:23:00 - [27] Originally by: Avon You pick any Caldari ship and I will beat it with a ship of the same class from another race. Lemme guess, Domi? ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.14 18:37:00 - [28] Originally by: Moghydin Originally by: Avernus What I don't get, is nothing is stopping anyone from cross-training races. Why all the angst? The angst is because some ppl spent time training for ships that are less good. And aren't all races should be somewhat equal in the ship strengths? I doubt we want to see the situation where 40% will use Caldari and 50% will use Gallente ships. Actually, my interest is in having the various races ships having variety, not nescessarily equality. It always come down to setups and tactics in the end. Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.14 18:44:00 - [29] Originally by: Bhaal Originally by: Avon You pick any Caldari ship and I will beat it with a ship of the same class from another race. Lemme guess, Domi? Yeah, that would work .. but then I could probably beat a Raven in a host of other ships. What really matters is the start range, that decides the ship and configuration. The Raven is superb at mid range, but it suffers up close because of the tactics that can be employed against it within 20km, and is outclassed at extreme range by turret based ships. The same goes for most caldari ships .. well, all ships .. most have an effective counter. Balance does not come from making everything the same. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Dixon Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.14 18:46:00 - [30] Originally by: Avon Balance does not come from making everything the same. QFT - - - - - - I have no strong feelings one way or the other...

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