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Xen0
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Posted - 2003.10.10 17:26:00 -
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You make me sick, even if I'm no longer a pirate, quit whining. If you don't want to be pod killed or lose your ship, play Morrowind!!!
FFS, this is a MMoRPG game, there will be pvp and always pvp in a game like this. So if I were you people who whine about getting podded, look at the systems with high pod kill numbers, if you don't you shouldn't even complain because it's your fault for not being self-informed.
I want all you people who whine to think about it a little, do you want to play a game that you mine for 24/7 and do nothing else? If so, you are a hopless cause. 
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Destruct
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Posted - 2003.10.10 17:31:00 -
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Quote: If you don't want to be pod killed or lose your ship, play Morrowind!!!
i take it you don't want to play morrowind!? that must mean that you want to be pod killed or lose your ship.
geez! 
You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word. - Al Capone
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Xen0
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Posted - 2003.10.10 17:34:00 -
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I'm not saying that, I'm saying try to be smarter about where you go. Its really easy to know where gate campers are, its just people don't take the time to look at their map or get info from other players, then they whine about pirates being in the game and people wanting them to all be banned!!
-=/Bah\=- |

Asmodia
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Posted - 2003.10.10 17:41:00 -
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He only want to say, if people are too lazy or stupid to use the basic functions of the game, they must not come here , to ask CCP to fix their lack of skills 
------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------ |

Destruct
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Posted - 2003.10.10 17:44:00 -
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ye well, there's whining from all sides. the ones we should really put under pressure is the devs. they need to fix this asap. most agree pierats are important in this game but the way the game mechanics allow them to operate isn't really fun to the victims and i'm sure the pierats would prefer to get their kills in other ways then those available today.
ccp needs to do something about pvp, because right now it sucks.
You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word. - Al Capone
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Xen0
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Posted - 2003.10.10 17:47:00 -
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I agree with destruct, the devs need to find a way to help pvp in the game. It's too one sided.
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Ange Noire
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Posted - 2003.10.10 17:49:00 -
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Edited by: Ange Noire on 10/10/2003 17:50:00 omg, that sound nearly as boring as the "pirates are evils, they kill the game" topics ...
/yawns
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RazorDreamz
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Posted - 2003.10.10 17:49:00 -
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/me Agree's with Xen0.
All it takes is a bit of time to check the map on podkills and you can skip by most pirates. If you don't like how pirating is implemented in the game then post a message with some new suggestions on how it could be implemented better, and let people discuss it. Whining about pirating is not a way your issues will be resolved. --------------------------------------- CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic m |

Paddyman
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Posted - 2003.10.10 18:37:00 -
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As true as it is mate your wasting your time trying to talk sence to them, its been tried before but to no success.
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Capn Blood
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Posted - 2003.10.10 18:38:00 -
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And whining about carebears is ok? 
Lets just stop all the whining....constructive posts only from now on  ============================================== "Trust no man who says to you that 'The ends justify the means' or who says that 'We will do whatever it takes...'. These men have no honour, and are fit only to be politicians."
The book of Rab Chapter 1, Verse 3. ============================================== |

Zraahd
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Posted - 2003.10.10 18:46:00 -
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Edited by: Zraahd on 10/10/2003 18:49:08 Razor, xeno, its not about the retards that can't check maps. Its not about, well let me list them so you understand and stop posting these topics.
Its not about: who likes PVP and who doesn't bashing pirates just to bash going to play other games that don't have PVP Not wanting to get into some great PVP
It is about: Ganking pirates that don't want PVP Not being able to load a screen before podding having real PVP and not lag enduced pod death
So from those few eamples do you see a little pattern emerging. Pirates use the jump- camp lag tactic to avoid PVP and just gank people. I would love to be able to enter that area and load the screen so that I could go after them. But they want to fire at derelect ships that are not even fighting back.
You tell me where the PVP is in that for the pirates that they whine about us not wanting (us = non pirate). It sure does appear to me that the pirates are really the ones that do not want the PVP. Or they would stop the exploits to just shoot at ships that can't fight back.
Do you get it now, Pirates using lag and jump in exploits not equal to PVP. If anything them doing these things is really PVE. They are fighting against game mechanics more than pilots. The players that enter the system don't have a chance in hell to do anything about being podded. Thats not PVP.
Rationalize it all you like but in the end "jump in camping lag enducing Pirates" are the true non PVP'ers and a real PVE group. Alomst as bad as the other side of the stick--- Afk miners. Takes about the same amount of brain power to do both. |

Yurito
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Posted - 2003.10.10 19:04:00 -
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Xen0, weren't you in Sinister?? how'd you switch to MASS... i totally missed that! aren't they enemies? O_o |

TIvian
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Posted - 2003.10.11 11:05:00 -
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Edited by: TIvian on 11/10/2003 11:06:05
Quote: Xen0, weren't you in Sinister?? how'd you switch to MASS... i totally missed that! aren't they enemies?
Yes, they are. he is a traitor
(\_/) (O.o) (> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you!! |

Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2003.10.11 11:17:00 -
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I have a new item I would like to see develpoed and added to the GAME. A Drone that carries cruise missles, A drone that will go through a jump gate and search and destroy a progamed type of ship. Each drone will carry 6 heavy cruise missles. It goes ahead of the owning ship. jumps and as soon as it sees its programed ship type. Fires off these cruise missles at the target. one drone nope it goes in groups of eight to ten. In some of the sciFi books from Mr David Webber they use this device to clear jump points. Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box and from this site.
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Nepereta
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Posted - 2003.10.11 11:49:00 -
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What about gate cameras that you can use to view the destination?
That would enable people to make a more informed choice given the fact we are vulnerable while the system loads. Or perhaps when moving in groups (ie moving corp minerals to empire) send an expendable alt thru first to see what is happening.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.10.11 11:55:00 -
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Edited by: DREAMWORKS on 11/10/2003 11:56:23 I agree that some people go to far, EvE is about PvP, EvE is about good v.s. Evil...
But what fun is it when your screen loads AGES because someone is using harvesters as drones to create lag.
If the player base would take some responsibilties and they would remove themselves from _abusing_ game mechanisms, i bet you will find alot "whiners" less.
Cuz, lets be real, what fun is a fight thats over before it began? None in my eyes.
(im sure some molly figure comes along with the set of carebear pics, but carebearness is about not willing to fight... I claim quite the opposide.)
-edit- spelling __________________________
http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html |

PropanElgen
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Posted - 2003.10.11 11:58:00 -
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Quote: You make me sick, even if I'm no longer a pirate, quit whining. If you don't want to be pod killed or lose your ship, play Morrowind!!!
FFS, this is a MMoRPG game, there will be pvp and always pvp in a game like this. So if I were you people who whine about getting podded, look at the systems with high pod kill numbers, if you don't you shouldn't even complain because it's your fault for not being self-informed.
I want all you people who whine to think about it a little, do you want to play a game that you mine for 24/7 and do nothing else? If so, you are a hopless cause. 
Oh you are so clever.. You can't see how anyone can enjoy other aspects of a game? Having a zero in your nick doesn't help you either..
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away... Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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Kazim
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Posted - 2003.10.11 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: Kazim on 11/10/2003 12:16:02 Zraahd, I couldn't agree more.
These lame ass so called pirates, think they are some PvP elite, give me a friggin brake, if they are so good and l337 at pvp why don't they wait until the victims screen loads up and can fight back. This makes me furious just to think about it, doesn't anyone think that this is a bit unfair, that you lose your ship even before the screen loads up??
And just to top it off these elite pirates then come on these boards and whine about us just pointing out that this is wrong. You should be able to fight back.
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2003.10.11 12:16:00 -
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PvP= Player Vs Player. greifer= Player Vs Player that is one system behind his ship.
You want to have PvP but 90% of your pvp is griefing. You camp jump in points knowing that you will not even hear from your victims why is that cause by the time their system catches up they are in a new body. You want pvp then hunt your victims like you should not grief them at the jump in points. You say come and fight us!!! Well I say stay and fight like you should instead of running at the first return shot. Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box and from this site.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.10.11 12:21:00 -
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All of you *******s who are whining about load-up lag, how many of you actually were involved in any form of PvP?
You read on forums that someone had 1-2 harvesters amoong heavy combat drones, and you all go "omg the cheater, haxx!"
Have you seen it yourself? No. Note that a lot of "l331 PvP-ers" cannot admit that they lost a ship fair and square, but it's always due to CTD, lag, or they had NPC setup, or they were mining, whatever. I guess that of all these lag stories, maybe 5-10% are true. The rest is excuses. --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.10.11 12:22:00 -
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Edited by: Luc Boye on 11/10/2003 12:23:21
Quote: PvP= Player Vs Player. greifer= Player Vs Player that is one system behind his ship.
You want to have PvP but 90% of your pvp is griefing. You camp jump in points knowing that you will not even hear from your victims why is that cause by the time their system catches up they are in a new body. You want pvp then hunt your victims like you should not grief them at the jump in points. You say come and fight us!!! Well I say stay and fight like you should instead of running at the first return shot.
When CCP implements tracking feature this might happen. Until then the only chance on catching someone is sweeping belts and camping at certain points. --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2003.10.11 13:55:00 -
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Sweeping belts? They (elite Pvp) dont do that. To much of an effort for them they rather sit and wait for sombody to show up. And if too many show up well its "CTD" time...warp to station...warp to planet...warp to anywhere but where they are now. All the time saying " ARRRGGGHHHH Too much LAG!!" ARRRGGGHHHH I have to go to the store!" If this was a true PVP game...And if they are true PVP players. It would be more fun. But it is not. See further post for the tactics you all seem to lack
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box and from this site.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.10.11 14:10:00 -
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who the hell are you anyway? just mounted a gun on your merlin and feeling adventurous? --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2003.10.11 14:52:00 -
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I am just a simple player who spends $12.95 a month to have fun at a game. One that said it contains Player vs Player. Well except on few occasions in the last four months of me haveing this game. I have not seen any PvP just exploits.... Harvester drones. Mulitple cans floating around gates. Anything to give the "pirates" an un fair advantage. You have no ideal how to really play in this enviorment you just use every dirty trick in the book to win. And if things look to bad like maybe a group of heavy armed battleships jumping in you run. I posted two ways to do PvP..your so lame you wont do it though. The other way is the way of the true pirates. Come in a belt in mass and "Demand tribute" or come in a blasting. Camping jump points to "Pod" anyone that jumps in is LAME....a real Sorry excuse for a person who cant play the game. I will fight in a open area. I will come to you, or wait for you to come to me. But your exploits suck! And you cant deny that either. PLAY the game and dont cheat.
SHIPS LOST: 1 Triston 2 Thorax one clone activated. Four player corpse in hanger
No I will not come to a system where you are sit up to use your cheats. You want a part of me then you will have to play the way your suppose to. Come hunting and we can Rock, come with your exploits and I will leave the area. You want fun, and a challange? I guess you dont cause the way the exploiters play. Do I mine? Not in a real long time. I have fun at what I do and how I do it. If your in my AO then expect me to react. Espically if your part of a corp that uses exploits. Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box and from this site.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.10.11 16:04:00 -
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Dude, end yourself (tm)
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2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.10.11 18:43:00 -
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Amen
This is not a hijack
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2003.10.11 20:45:00 -
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Quote: Dude, end yourself (tm)
Why should I the more time I keep the likes of you on the forum the better the game gets. One person can get you LAME players all riled up. Well then there is another, and another, and another...etc...etc see the trend more "carebears" are getting tired of your LAME crapola you "PvP" players dish out. You wont stand to fight it out. You wont go into an area with less then three battleships. You camp the gates even though people sell the bookmarks around you. And now your camping the jump in points saying this is the only way we can make money...Hell want to make some cash sell you LAME account on E-bay like the rest of the PvP players are doing. You wont get much cause you and you like minded friends have driven away the new people. Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter,pirate[/i] or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box and from this site.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.10.12 01:26:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Dude, end yourself (tm)
Why should I the more time I keep the likes of you on the forum the better the game gets. One person can get you LAME players all riled up. Well then there is another, and another, and another...etc...etc see the trend more "carebears" are getting tired of your LAME crapola you "PvP" players dish out. You wont stand to fight it out. You wont go into an area with less then three battleships. You camp the gates even though people sell the bookmarks around you. And now your camping the jump in points saying this is the only way we can make money...Hell want to make some cash sell you LAME account on E-bay like the rest of the PvP players are doing. You wont get much cause you and you like minded friends have driven away the new people.
Cheese? --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Lottsa Pox
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Posted - 2003.10.12 07:46:00 -
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Edited by: Lottsa Pox on 12/10/2003 08:39:21 From Roshan quite extensive knowledge of PVP tactics he sit from the safety of his cowardice and spews venom anywhere he can. Who is the lamer? The ones who tries to play the game and the player provided content or the ones who hide behind the smoke screen. There is no smoke screen where we are.
Enjoy the game, I know I am and yes Roshan i pay the same amt of money you do for this game.
So I truly enjoy every minute of it. Sounds like your not to bad.
Lottsa Pox Pox to ya Pod BioMass Cartel Enjoy the game, I know I am
Lottsa Pox Pox to ya pod
BioMass Cartel Podding a system near you |

Melissa Badger
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Posted - 2003.10.12 10:52:00 -
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When CCP changes loading into a system (And don't doubt they won't) I can't wait to read the forums and listen to all the pirates heads exploding as they realize they can't InstaGank. I am going to keep an eye out for your whiney little post about how CCP 'killed' PvP. I hear Moo is recruiting... hahahaha
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