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Miner Amarr
No Risk No ISK
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Posted - 2014.10.12 10:49:00 -
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Since we all hate titans, and generally anyone who has any kind of advantage over us by working harder.... implement doomsday fatigue and make it's mechanic similar to jump fatigue.
Let's nerf capitals into the ground, starting at titans. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
Guardians of the Morrigan
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Posted - 2014.10.12 10:55:00 -
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why? do we have DD spam? |
Tappits
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.10.12 11:12:00 -
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Miner Amarr wrote:Since we all hate titans, and generally anyone who has any kind of advantage over us by working harder.... implement doomsday fatigue and make it's mechanic similar to jump fatigue.
Let's nerf capitals into the ground, starting at titans.
They already have a finite amount of times they can doomsday limited by how much fuel the can carry + cool down timers + can only DD other caps + cannot change damage types + is stuck in system for 10 mins each time it uses one + cannot cloak while on cool down + is immobile for 30 seconds on grid after firing + cannot use MJD to get out of bubbles + cannot use its guns vs small targets in an efficient way to be able to protect its self + cannot dock + is hard to move + bumps everywhere off everything when it does. |
Miner Amarr
No Risk No ISK
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Posted - 2014.10.12 11:13:00 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:why? do we have DD spam?
Doesn't matter. As long as it's a nerf to capitals, it's good. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
2093
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Posted - 2014.10.12 11:17:00 -
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It already has a cooldown timer..
....and the only warning was the last line of the patch notes, which said. "Oh yeah, we also shuffled Moon Goo around!" Show your support, move Moon Goo with Power Projection changes!-á |
Miner Amarr
No Risk No ISK
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Posted - 2014.10.12 11:21:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:It already has a cooldown timer..
Sure, but the cooldown timer is only 10 minutes. I want it to be longer than that. Possibly even a month if you use your DD too much. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2872
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Posted - 2014.10.12 11:51:00 -
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I think CCP should instead implement Shiptoasting Fatigue. |
159Pinky
Under Heavy Fire Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2014.10.12 12:52:00 -
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Miner Amarr wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:why? do we have DD spam? Doesn't matter. As long as it's a nerf to capitals, it's good.
You sir, are a good troll. |
Samillian
Angry Mustellid The Periphery
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Posted - 2014.10.12 13:28:00 -
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Tappits wrote:Miner Amarr wrote:Since we all hate titans, and generally anyone who has any kind of advantage over us by working harder.... implement doomsday fatigue and make it's mechanic similar to jump fatigue.
Let's nerf capitals into the ground, starting at titans. They already have a finite amount of times they can doomsday limited by how much fuel the can carry + cool down timers + can only DD other caps + cannot change damage types + is stuck in system for 10 mins each time it uses one + cannot cloak while on cool down + is immobile for 30 seconds on grid after firing + cannot use MJD to get out of bubbles + cannot use its guns vs small targets in an efficient way to be able to protect its self + cannot dock + is hard to move + bumps everywhere off everything when it does + if you fire a dd, you can't log off for 25 minutes
If they need that many restrictions it just shows what a bad idea it was introducing them in the first place. CCP should just grasp the nettle and remove them from the game altogether and compensate the owners it would be quicker and cleaner than the slow death by inches they are suffering now.
NBSI shall be the whole of the Law |
Tappits
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.10.12 14:29:00 -
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This is a troll topic but whatever.
Miner Amarr wrote:Sure, but the cooldown timer is only 10 minutes. I want it to be longer than that. Possibly even a month if you use your DD too much. I think your totally overestimating the amount of doomsdays used in eve online by Titan pilots. 775 Doomsdays used in B-R which was 24% of all DDGÇÖs used in the past 2 years, which includes the 200 used the week before in HED-GP. ThatGÇÖs 3229 DDGÇÖs over a 2 year period (including 2 pretty much one off fights) thatGÇÖs on average 4.4 DDGÇÖs a day over all of eve, with around the 1800-2000 titans in game thereGÇÖs no one really using the DD mods to warrant nerfing them.
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Miner Amarr
No Risk No ISK
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Posted - 2014.10.12 14:48:00 -
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Tappits wrote:This is a troll topic but whatever. Miner Amarr wrote:Sure, but the cooldown timer is only 10 minutes. I want it to be longer than that. Possibly even a month if you use your DD too much. I think your totally overestimating the amount of doomsdays used in eve online by Titan pilots. 775 Doomsdays used in B-R which was 24% of all DDGÇÖs used in the past 2 years, which includes the 200 used the week before in HED-GP. ThatGÇÖs 3229 DDGÇÖs over a 2 year period (including 2 pretty much one off fights) thatGÇÖs on average 4.4 DDGÇÖs a day over all of eve, with around the 1800-2000 titans in game thereGÇÖs no one really using the DD mods to warrant nerfing them.
Exactly, titans are support ships, used for bridging other vessels and ****. They should not even be able to use doomsdays. And since not many are fired anyway, no one is going to cry for the loss. |
Tappits
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.10.12 14:51:00 -
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Miner Amarr wrote:titans are support ships, used for bridging other vessels
Not in 3 weeks
Logistics are also support ships, but that does not mean you cannot kill things in them or do things out side of their main roles. |
Miner Amarr
No Risk No ISK
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Posted - 2014.10.12 15:03:00 -
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Tappits wrote:Miner Amarr wrote:titans are support ships, used for bridging other vessels Not in 3 weeks Logistics are also support ships, but that does not mean you cannot kill things in them or do things out side of their main roles.
Titans have guns and that is enough. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2014.10.12 15:14:00 -
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Samillian wrote:Tappits wrote:Miner Amarr wrote:Since we all hate titans, and generally anyone who has any kind of advantage over us by working harder.... implement doomsday fatigue and make it's mechanic similar to jump fatigue.
Let's nerf capitals into the ground, starting at titans. They already have a finite amount of times they can doomsday limited by how much fuel the can carry + cool down timers + can only DD other caps + cannot change damage types + is stuck in system for 10 mins each time it uses one + cannot cloak while on cool down + is immobile for 30 seconds on grid after firing + cannot use MJD to get out of bubbles + cannot use its guns vs small targets in an efficient way to be able to protect its self + cannot dock + is hard to move + bumps everywhere off everything when it does + if you fire a dd, you can't log off for 25 minutes If they need that many restrictions it just shows what a bad idea it was introducing them in the first place. CCP should just grasp the nettle and remove them from the game altogether and compensate the owners it would be quicker and cleaner than the slow death by inches they are suffering now. But the slow death by inches they are suffering now is more amusing and easily snuck through. Especially if it's an inch every six weeks, thanks to the new development cycle.
Probably it would be easiest to make it so Titans can't take gates. Later on, they get a larger multiplier to fatigue. ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.12 17:01:00 -
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So immobilised for 10 minutes isn't good enough for you? |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2879
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Posted - 2014.10.12 19:38:00 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:So immobilised for 10 minutes isn't good enough for you?
OP is buttmad about the incoming jump drive changes and is trolling. Please recognize this. |
Hopelesshobo
Tactical Nuclear Penguin's
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Posted - 2014.10.12 19:57:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Celthric Kanerian wrote:So immobilised for 10 minutes isn't good enough for you? OP is buttmad about the incoming jump drive changes and is trolling. Please recognize this.
And here I thought that this would be a good thread to suggest gate fatigue, so that if you take too many gates, you will be stuck in whatever system you are in for up to a month. From there I was going to spin the thread into docking fatigue in case you like to play docking games with someone. Thanks for ruining my fun Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6448
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Posted - 2014.10.12 20:44:00 -
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Hopelesshobo wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Celthric Kanerian wrote:So immobilised for 10 minutes isn't good enough for you? OP is buttmad about the incoming jump drive changes and is trolling. Please recognize this. And here I thought that this would be a good thread to suggest gate fatigue, so that if you take too many gates, you will be stuck in whatever system you are in for up to a month. From there I was going to spin the thread into docking fatigue in case you like to play docking games with someone. Thanks for ruining my fun Docking fatigue would make sense. The one getting fed up is the station manager.
You know where it says "docking permission requested" "docking request accepted"?
"Docking permission requested" .... .... .... (and you explode while the NPC is laughing from inside the station)
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
607
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Posted - 2014.10.12 20:51:00 -
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Eve needs playing fatigue.
For every 5 minutes you play you get 50 minutes of fatigue if you don't wait it out and log off after 5 minutes you get socket crash and if you log back and play fatigue goes to 500 minutes in next 5 minutes, do this 5 times and CCP permabans you.
I think we should do more of this fatigue stuff.
Wait to play is great mechanics since it only leaves the very patient players in eve and the rest can all quit since we don't need them anyway.
EvE-Mail me if you need anything. |
Mag's
the united
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Posted - 2014.10.12 21:28:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:I think CCP should instead implement Shiptoasting Fatigue. Not empty quoting.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
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Lugh Crow-Slave
Guardians of the Morrigan
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Posted - 2014.10.12 22:08:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:I think CCP should instead implement Shiptoasting Fatigue.
The forums would be so quiet.... mildly productive... but quiet |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6450
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Posted - 2014.10.12 22:40:00 -
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We'd have to mine and build all our posts locally. ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
2433
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Posted - 2014.10.13 01:04:00 -
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Miner Amarr wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:why? do we have DD spam? Doesn't matter. As long as it's a nerf to capitals, it's good.
Now that's just stupid. Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence So Local Chat vanished, now what? |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2891
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Posted - 2014.10.13 01:55:00 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Miner Amarr wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:why? do we have DD spam? Doesn't matter. As long as it's a nerf to capitals, it's good. Now that's just stupid.
Welcome to F&I. |
Tikitina
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
183
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Posted - 2014.10.13 02:37:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:Miner Amarr wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:why? do we have DD spam? Doesn't matter. As long as it's a nerf to capitals, it's good. Now that's just stupid. Welcome to F&I.
These types of silly posts should be expected for a few weeks after an unpopular but much needed change is done.
And I say no to docking fatigue, since that implies Titans and Supercarriers should be able to dock. They should never be able to dock. Although I support the ability to reprocess them at some reduced efficiency.
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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
139
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Posted - 2014.10.13 04:24:00 -
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oh can we get fatigue from logi/triage too! that would be really swell and soon we can introduce fatigue for using...get this... Stargates! "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mine" -Dr. Smith |
Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
2433
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Posted - 2014.10.13 06:23:00 -
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Agondray wrote:oh can we get fatigue from logi/triage too! that would be really swell and soon we can introduce fatigue for using...get this... Stargates!
Fatigue from logging in, undocking, activating modules, and using any chat channel.
That will clearly fix this game...more time spent doing nothing. TIDI everywhere, all the time.
Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence So Local Chat vanished, now what? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6451
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Posted - 2014.10.13 06:28:00 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:why? do we have DD spam? Yeah you haven't lived until you realize in a big fight the titans are just machines that press F1 to doomsday every 30 minutes or something in 10% tidiland.
Doomsdays are supposed to be rare and powerful. You're supposed to celebrate at each one (and count the fuel costs...), not slather Shrike's Avatar in 20 hot doomsdays* until it dies.
*I don't know exactly how many Shrike took.
We might all like a good orgy of destruction, but that's just far too obscene. ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2895
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Posted - 2014.10.13 07:59:00 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:That will clearly fix this game...more time spent doing nothing. TIDI everywhere, all the time. To be fair, it was the attitude of "less time spent doing nothing" that brought us jump drives and titan bridges and all the things that have served to make EVE's thousands of star systems less than trivial to cross, contributing to the way things are now.
While I don't quite feel that this is necessarily the most elegant or gimmick-free way to handle the problem, it is a way and it's markedly better than the ideas that have been suggested thus far (short of removing jump drives, any kind of bridge and supercaps altogether, which is a perfect win IMO).
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6452
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Posted - 2014.10.13 08:11:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:it's markedly better than the ideas that have been suggested thus far (short of removing jump drives, any kind of bridge and supercaps altogether, which is a perfect win IMO). Everyone taking gates together forever.
Into a bright nullsec future ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
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