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Chimaera7
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Posted - 2006.08.14 17:30:00 -
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Edited by: Chimaera7 on 14/08/2006 17:31:27
I am SICK and TIRED of people stealing loot from cans outputted as result of empire war. This is worse than ore theft. Cans dropped by destroyed ships should be available to the person who lost it and the people who killed him. It is not fair allowing noobs to pick stuff up preventing the prize for the pvper going to the rightful person. They go red to the victim of ship loss but not to the person who destroyed the ship.
CCP.... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, sort this out ASAP.
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.08.14 17:39:00 -
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It's not your stuff, is it? It belongs to the guy who just died, unless and until you've already pinched it.
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The Hand
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Posted - 2006.08.14 17:42:00 -
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 Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
It's not your stuff, is it? It belongs to the guy who just died, unless and until you've already pinched it.
If thats the case, Then how come if i kill a blood raider the can has my corp ticker and not a blood raider ticker, yer i know ones pve and ones pvp.
But its the same basic principle, You keep what you kill.
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Down Range
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Posted - 2006.08.14 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: The Hand
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
It's not your stuff, is it? It belongs to the guy who just died, unless and until you've already pinched it.
If thats the case, Then how come if i kill a blood raider the can has my corp ticker and not a blood raider ticker, yer i know ones pve and ones pvp.
But its the same basic principle, You keep what you kill.
Only if you get there first. 
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Wrayeth
Inexorable Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.14 17:46:00 -
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Edited by: Wrayeth on 14/08/2006 17:46:30
Originally by: The Hand
But its the same basic principle, You keep what you kill.
Chronicles of Rid**** ftw!
EDIT: Ugh. It filtered out R*i*d*d*i*c*k.
-Wrayeth
"Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.14 18:02:00 -
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I looted a container from a war victim yesterday... worth 25 mill. I mean, what am i supposed to do when I pass by... leave it be? 
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Chimaera7
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Posted - 2006.08.14 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
I looted a container from a war victim yesterday... worth 25 mill. I mean, what am i supposed to do when I pass by... leave it be?
And you did nothing to kill the person who lost it, so yes you should then become concord fodder or killable for a month to those who killed the person who owned that loot
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.14 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Chimaera7
Originally by: Jim McGregor
I looted a container from a war victim yesterday... worth 25 mill. I mean, what am i supposed to do when I pass by... leave it be?
And you did nothing to kill the person who lost it, so yes you should then become concord fodder or killable for a month to those who killed the person who owned that loot
Im just stealing the victims can. And he gets the right to kill me. Unfortunantly he is dead. 
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Bhaal
Minmatar
M. Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.14 18:45:00 -
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Just wait until salvaging is in the game...
I think I'm gonna make a new character and call him Lamprey
If ore thieves are allowed to operate in this game, then so can loot thieves...
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Estelle Matsuko
Caldari
The Beiatch Corp Inc
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Posted - 2006.08.14 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Chimaera7
Originally by: Jim McGregor
I looted a container from a war victim yesterday... worth 25 mill. I mean, what am i supposed to do when I pass by... leave it be?
And you did nothing to kill the person who lost it, so yes you should then become concord fodder or killable for a month to those who killed the person who owned that loot
Possession is 9/10¦s of the law, and a good tank and mwd for a fast getaway is the other 10%.
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.08.14 18:56:00 -
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HAHAHAHA
My buddy went on his alt yesterday and camped Jita 4x4 picked up a bunch of loot from war.
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SilverCut
Caldari
Zephyr Enterprises Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.14 19:06:00 -
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Easy solution give the attackers kill rights as if it was their can
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.14 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: SilverCut
Easy solution give the attackers kill rights as if it was their can
Yes, because them stealing the can is not a crime... or.. is it? 
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Vikram Bedi
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Posted - 2006.08.14 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Chimaera7
Edited by: Chimaera7 on 14/08/2006 17:31:27
I am SICK and TIRED of people stealing loot from cans outputted as result of empire war. This is worse than ore theft. Cans dropped by destroyed ships should be available to the person who lost it and the people who killed him. It is not fair allowing noobs to pick stuff up preventing the prize for the pvper going to the rightful person. They go red to the victim of ship loss but not to the person who destroyed the ship.
CCP.... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, sort this out ASAP.
I'm not positive on this, but I'm 90% sure that as the victor, you still get can-flagged for taking your victims can. That would pretty heavily suggest that the can isn't actually yours to take from, and your claiming the contents as spoils of war is, in fact, theft.
What would be neat would be if can theft flagged a person to *everyone*, not just the owner of the can and their corp.
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Arkanor
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2006.08.14 21:16:00 -
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It flows with the other mechanics of Eve.
Take what you can. Isn't this the basis of all piracy?
Originally by: Ghosthowl
WoW = hardcore paladins smashin dat face.
Originally by: HippoKing
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Volcom V
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.14 21:25:00 -
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The reward of killing, is killing.
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Blut Legion
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Posted - 2006.08.14 22:17:00 -
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LOL cry more plz |
Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.08.14 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Vikram Bedi
I'm not positive on this, but I'm 90% sure that as the victor, you still get can-flagged for taking your victims can. That would pretty heavily suggest that the can isn't actually yours to take from, and your claiming the contents as spoils of war is, in fact, theft.
Zigackly. Of course, the guy you just killed already has the right to go after you for the next 30 days, so having an additional right to do it for the next 15 minutes won't matter much. But that stuff doesn't "belong" to his killers, unless and until they loot it. If someone else loots it, it belongs to someone else.
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Kella Mal
Royal Knights of Khanid
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Posted - 2006.08.14 23:14:00 -
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It's fun when you get to blow them up
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Ramez Baltar
ISS Navy Task Force
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Posted - 2006.08.14 23:31:00 -
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I really have no sympathy for you. Its part of the overhead of working in empire space.
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Vikram Bedi
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Posted - 2006.08.14 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Vikram Bedi
I'm not positive on this, but I'm 90% sure that as the victor, you still get can-flagged for taking your victims can. That would pretty heavily suggest that the can isn't actually yours to take from, and your claiming the contents as spoils of war is, in fact, theft.
Zigackly. Of course, the guy you just killed already has the right to go after you for the next 30 days, so having an additional right to do it for the next 15 minutes won't matter much. But that stuff doesn't "belong" to his killers, unless and until they loot it. If someone else loots it, it belongs to someone else.
I've only gotten killrights on the person who popped me once, and never had them against me.
I think the killrights system is kinda screwy.
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Lord Frost
Minmatar
The Crystal Method
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Posted - 2006.08.15 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Chimaera7
Edited by: Chimaera7 on 14/08/2006 17:31:27
I am SICK and TIRED of people stealing loot from cans outputted as result of empire war. This is worse than ore theft. Cans dropped by destroyed ships should be available to the person who lost it and the people who killed him. It is not fair allowing noobs to pick stuff up preventing the prize for the pvper going to the rightful person. They go red to the victim of ship loss but not to the person who destroyed the ship.
CCP.... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, sort this out ASAP.
LOL... why not take your wars elsewhere then? Stop the ganker wars... many of them are wars just to snatch loots... sorry if a nub gets there first... so sorry, so sad. No one wants you camping our traffic gates anyway... beat it you bums.
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Ketrin
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Posted - 2006.08.15 01:00:00 -
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No. It will just take away one more advantage of 0.0 space.
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Bluestealth
Minmatar
Alcatraz Inc.
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.08.15 02:17:00 -
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I am usually in it for the killing, who cares about the loot, if I get it, I get it... now what ****es me off though is friendlies picking up friendly cans... and not even trying the return the loot.
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CFC Fodder
Gallente
432
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Posted - 2006.08.15 04:51:00 -
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Originally by: Chimaera7
Originally by: Jim McGregor
I looted a container from a war victim yesterday... worth 25 mill. I mean, what am i supposed to do when I pass by... leave it be?
And you did nothing to kill the person who lost it, so yes you should then become concord fodder or killable for a month to those who killed the person who owned that loot
If I loot a war victim's can, then yes, I would be Fodder. :P
Originally by: Arian Snow
"GTC for ISK" promotes farming of isk to pay for your character those isk underminde the economy and creates inflation!!! Its like printing money in RL...
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Dr NOe
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Posted - 2006.08.15 05:20:00 -
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I think we all need to just Login and have a Great big carebear group hug and sing Kumbia.
As for loot can theft. Welcome to EVE hope you enjoy you stay and Remember this is a Risk VS reward style game. Not WOW or SWG. And i Hope CCP will not make it the Carebears Online those became.
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Kuolematon
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.08.15 05:26:00 -
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When I returned last time to EVE for brief time, it was just before loot can flagging from PvE was introduced. I went to my normal lvl4 agent whooring system and got mission where those battleships spawns near gate.
Boy was I suprise to find out that when I tried to kill those BS's, *FOUR* kessies came along and started driving behind that BS. I was so suprised that I didn't even know what to do. Loot stealing was at its high back then.
I tought that PvP cans holds same principal than PvE but seems like not. It's kinda funny thou. Pirates complaining about pirates who steals their cans. Makes me *giggle*
Unnerf Amarr!
"Just because you can utterly ruin another player's game doesn't mean that you must."
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F'nog
Amarr
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.15 05:37:00 -
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I think I need to get an alt over to Jita. Seems like there's a fortune to be made there by grave robbers.
Originally by: DB Preacher
The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when backdoor bandit is in local.
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eLLioTT wave
Art of War
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Posted - 2006.08.15 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: Chimaera7
Edited by: Chimaera7 on 14/08/2006 17:31:27
I am SICK and TIRED of people stealing loot from cans outputted as result of empire war. This is worse than ore theft. Cans dropped by destroyed ships should be available to the person who lost it and the people who killed him. It is not fair allowing noobs to pick stuff up preventing the prize for the pvper going to the rightful person. They go red to the victim of ship loss but not to the person who destroyed the ship.
CCP.... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, sort this out ASAP.
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Sakura Nihil
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.15 07:50:00 -
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its a fine vintage
OMG, WCS Nerf! |
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