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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
6510
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Posted - 2014.10.13 17:32:20 -
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J'Poll wrote:Kaisuko Mayaki wrote:hello! I am fairly new to eve (1-2 weeks) and i'm trying to get into mining to make some money. Currently i'm afk mining kernite for the most part in a venture but i want to know what i should aim for based on my playstyle. I'm currently training to be able to use better ORE ships like the procurer but it will be a few days before ive finished the skills.
Anyways, I would really like to be able to mine and not have to really do much for about 30 minute periods atleast. I will still be at the game in case i get ganked or anything But it would ideal that I would be able to not have to interact for roughly 30 minute periods. (other than changing asteroids - of course) With my current set up im filling my hold in about 5-10 minutes which is awesome but its requiring a lot of back and forth from me. Thanks! Really, stop doing AFK mining, it is bad. Not only in terms of safety but also in efficiency. Not to forget, why would you pay for a game...and then don't play it.
While I agree with you on many things, we'll never see eye-to-eye on this one.
I see nothing wrong with AFK mining. Or more specifically, semi-AFK. You need to weigh the cost effectiveness to see if it works for you, though. Sure, it's less efficient, but you can be focused on another character or homework or whatever. So anything you make is gravy.
If you tank your ship, stay out of popular systems and work belts that have a some other ships that are more tempting targets for gankers, you can keep your losses to a minimum.
The thing is, once gankers land on grid, you are pretty much screwed whether you are AFK or not. You can spend all your time running d-scan, labeling known gank corps and stressing out every time someone appears in local. Or just accept that you are going to take the occasional loss but in the end you'll come out ahead in ISK while doing next to nothing to acquire it. It's your choice.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Netan MalDoran
xXTheWarhammerXx
96
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Posted - 2014.10.14 00:15:20 -
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Fit a dessie with blasters, then go make some wrecks.
Or just mine until you unsub, which will be soon...
"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!
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Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
184
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Posted - 2014.10.14 01:03:58 -
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It's not a good idea to post it on the forums (because people can find out where you are in Eve if they know your char name), but the majority of people mining in Eve are semi-AFK at least part of the time. It doesn't require your undivided attention. There are only a few areas of high-sec that I've come across that have frequent ganking of miners. If you are mining in a tanked Procurer or Skiff they will ignore you for an easier target (unless you go out of your way to provoke them).
After you know what you are doing, you can get a Retriever as a 2nd mining barge that you use when you are paying attention or confident the system is safe. It has a bigger hold so you won't have to haul to a station as often.
As an aside, I prefer to mine in an area where CODE operates. It makes for a more interesting game of cat and mouse - and it scares off some of the mining competition.
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4725
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Posted - 2014.10.14 09:14:27 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:J'Poll wrote:Kaisuko Mayaki wrote:hello! I am fairly new to eve (1-2 weeks) and i'm trying to get into mining to make some money. Currently i'm afk mining kernite for the most part in a venture but i want to know what i should aim for based on my playstyle. I'm currently training to be able to use better ORE ships like the procurer but it will be a few days before ive finished the skills.
Anyways, I would really like to be able to mine and not have to really do much for about 30 minute periods atleast. I will still be at the game in case i get ganked or anything But it would ideal that I would be able to not have to interact for roughly 30 minute periods. (other than changing asteroids - of course) With my current set up im filling my hold in about 5-10 minutes which is awesome but its requiring a lot of back and forth from me. Thanks! Really, stop doing AFK mining, it is bad. Not only in terms of safety but also in efficiency. Not to forget, why would you pay for a game...and then don't play it. While I agree with you on many things, we'll never see eye-to-eye on this one. I see nothing wrong with AFK mining. Or more specifically, semi-AFK. You need to weigh the cost effectiveness to see if it works for you, though. Sure, it's less efficient, but you can be focused on another character or homework or whatever. So anything you make is gravy. If you tank your ship, stay out of popular systems and work belts that have a some other ships that are more tempting targets for gankers, you can keep your losses to a minimum. The thing is, once gankers land on grid, you are pretty much screwed whether you are AFK or not. You can spend all your time running d-scan, labeling known gank corps and stressing out every time someone appears in local. Or just accept that you are going to take the occasional loss but in the end you'll come out ahead in ISK while doing next to nothing to acquire it. It's your choice. Mr Epeen
Then go trading.
With same amount of attention you can not only make way more ISK but also at a lot lower risk if you know what you are doing.
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
284
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Posted - 2014.10.14 10:02:48 -
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I came here looking for the post someone liked. Found the thread cleaned up. Meaning my post is gone... |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
6510
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Posted - 2014.10.14 15:38:26 -
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BrundleMeth wrote:I came here looking for the post someone liked. Found the thread cleaned up. Meaning my post is gone...
It happens sometimes. Hundreds of times for some of us 
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Marc Callan
Thrall Nation
Brave Collective
487
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Posted - 2014.10.14 16:12:13 -
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I'd say that if you're going to mine, keep at least one eye on the screen, and if you have to go AFK, either dock up, or find a safe and logout until you can come back. Barring some ISBoxer rolling through with a bunch of zombie barges, the rocks should still be there when you get back.
(And read Rudyard Kipling's "Dane-geld".)
"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be."
- Kurt Vonnegurt
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ForTheEmpire2014
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.15 08:16:52 -
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Roughly 12-15 minutes to fill. You will need to cycle your mining lasers as needed.
The Procurer
Pretty straight forward stuff:
Evelopedia - Procurer
Evelopedia is a good start
UniWiki - Procurer
Eve University is a good experience for many players, consider joining.
note: Eve releases and patches may change things, alway read release notes for your ships!
Sample Fitting Guide
Shield tanks for all purpose resists. Change to suit the situation or your own preferences.
Choose 5x light drones for rats, and 5x of your choice (Warrior IIs are common).
Procurer, T2
(38 days training, 32 days with neural remap Mem=27,Int=21)
[Procurer, Procurer II]
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Damage Control II
Medium Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Survey Scanner II
Modulated Strip Miner II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Warrior II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Benefits: Very tough to kill. Does a substantial amount of drone damage (with skills)
Detriments: Smaller ore hold than it's cousins, single mining laser. |
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