drakes can run solo c3 anoms. It is known.

[quote=Bronya Boga]
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BC cant tank sleepers BS for example. The last waves in C3 data/relic are dangerous without a properly remote setup.
BC are ok for combat ano in C1 to C3.
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Its faster to just slowboat the dred.

This biggest problem always was and still is how ******* difficult is to have stuff and bring new people to the damned space, ie. POS security, corp roles, etc. Fix that and we are all set for population boom. All this stuff about rolling, conflict drivers, evictions and whatever is secondary to that. I'm still waiting for the personal ship hangar we've been promised to have right after Odyssey.

Try C4 Sites with Nagas. Take a Fleet with 2 Basilisk and 1 or 2 HAM Tengus for the frigates and at least a Minimum of 5 or 6 Nagas. We used to do C4 Sites in that configuration in about 4 - 7 Minutes each.

Thx for the tips, let me give you one. With 20 bombers you can clean a wave in 10 sec (the bomb flight time). Usefull huh ?

Thx for the tips, let me give you one. With 20 bombers you can clean a wave in 10 sec (the bomb flight time). Usefull huh ?



@Bronya Boga
Ok you close a hole in 60 sec, you are my new hero.

And you can pop all your blue loot with that last "extra" bomb.

I'd be all like "It's not about the money, it's about sending a message".

can some1 explain what ts wanted to say?

I have seen / been commited in 5 evictions attempt in wh <=C4 in 4 or 5 months.

It happens ...

From the POV of a small wh corp CEO trying to build a wh corp in low class wh, it is ... So ******* hard.

Reasons are well known :
1- risk vs reward balance is bad in low class
2- Hyperion release is a disaster for small corp
3- Nothing can be done solo
4- Skills needed for pilot (T3 mandatory)
5- Skills & knowledge needed for the player (lots of things to know)
( EDIT : And i forgot the discipline needed, lots of player can't bear that)

Reasons 1, 2 and 3 could be fixed by CCP.
Reasons 4 et 5 are just nice as it is.

If you want more people in low class wh, up the blue loots reward and remove Hyperion (mass based jump distance especially).
It is the only way.

I have been trying to recruit miners. Mostly for de-mining activities (picture a flock of Procurers pushed ahead of the troops like sheep in a minefield). However, it's hard to convince people that they won't be baiting when they want to be mining. I mean, hello, you roll yourself in and everyone chows down on the pimp nerd food in gravs, and just watch for a new sig. It's that simple. You'll make billions. And then, when there is something to bait, you'll get cheap-ass PVP handed to you on a plate.

But no, it's all "mew mew mew wormhole mining is too dangerous".

They are right. Why take the risk of mining in wormholes when you can do it in k-space which has the benefit of local?

Fit a procurer with T2 shield tank, get some drones in it, and then you can combine mining with PVP/being a bait for your invisible pvp fleet... that for sure is not in kspace too much.

I personally hope that the established corporations who have dominated wh space continue to hemorrhage members and lose control over their surrounding space a little more each time. Your establishments are just as terrible as the CFC/N3/PL. You complain more too.

Nothing will ever change about the culture of WH until you are gone. It's really that simple.

Baiting like that is more common than you think. You're not some elite space warrior.

How do these "established corporations" actually dominate wh space?

I can honestly say if you want to have a crack at my POS, you're welcome to waste 4 days of your life doing it. I'll even let you loot all the stuff I can't just MJD out of the bubbles.

Answer is easy and simple.

There are three kinds of people in eve. They are smart people and dumb people.

Currently in w-space, there is no reason for dumb people to live there. PVE sites in C4-C1 are too difficult and too unrewarding for the amount of effort required to make it risk free (dumb people don't do things that have what they perceive as risk, they usually die in risky scenarios because they thought it was risk free--not because they did it anyway despite knowing it was risky). They can't live in C5 or C6 space because that's even more riskier and also requires that they put effort into actually doing the PVE, and some intelligence as well--they don't have that. On the PVP side, the dumb pvp'ers cannot find targets because there are no dumb people doing dumb things. This is a combination off dumb players not doing PVE in WH's, and also the fact that WH's are so sparsely populated that dumb PVP'ers cannot find each other. So neither party lives in WH space. I'm sure some come and try to, but quickly get bored or killed by the few people still active in wormholes.

Similarly, there is no reason for smart people to live in WH's. The PVE is bad and requires significant effort to actually make it better than standard PVE in kspace or market trading--and the PVP is way too sparse and is significantly harder to find than in k-space. Some people are masochistic and like this, but frankly this is a fact--WH pvp is harder to get than k-space pvp by many orders of magnitude and k-space pvp is just as fun, there is no significant difference--ESPECIALLY after Pheobe, when lowsec/nullsec becomes significantly safer for capital brawls to happen in. The fun/effort ratio of playing the game in wormholes is significantly worse than playing it in k-space.

tl;dr i lost my train of though halfway through and I really just think that w-space is **** because it's way too much effort to actively force fights in general, and the flip side of just waiting for fights to come to you doesn't work due to the lack of population.

How do these "established corporations" actually dominate wh space?

Fit a procurer with T2 shield tank, get some drones in it, and then you can combine mining with PVP/being a bait for your invisible pvp fleet... that for sure is not in kspace too much.

SO MUCH TRUTH