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Darknar
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Posted - 2006.08.15 14:59:00 -
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ok im having a little bit of trouble fitting this interceptor. i know its not the taranis, the reason i got this interceptor is becuse i like to looks of it.
i see it has a confusing bonuses to it. but what i want to do is able to fit longer ranged weapons. at least out of smartbomb/NOS range of meduim to heavy NOS.
i would like to use missiles(becuse its got a bonus to missiles) and the requred MWD.
i dont plan to solo in this craft. i want to use it to intercept other pilots. by litrally arriving at a gate before the enemy with a nice 13 odd AU speed this should help out.
so if anyone got experiance in a ganking interceptor let me know :)
i do plan to get the taranis later but i want to play about with the ares first becuse i personaly like it better
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Hydrian Alante
The Loot Company
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Posted - 2006.08.15 15:19:00 -
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My Ares Setup:
High 2x 125mm Railguns II 2x Standard Launcher II
Med 1x Gist A-Type AB (or tech II if you don¦t got the money) 1x Fleeting Warp Scrambler
Low 1x Damage Control 2x Local Hull Nanofiber 1x MAPC
For the Ammo Use Lead or Thorium to stay out of web and med nos range.
If you like more tank, you can fit a plate and a eanm II. But i prefer speed.
If you got the skills, try the Raptor too, it¦s very similar to fly.
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ElCoCo
Gallente KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.15 15:28:00 -
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2 nanofibers and a damage control don't go well together.
Fit a local hull overdrive and an local hull inertia stabilizer if you want to go that way... A bit less speed/agility but 300 more hardened hull to eat through.
(Although this stupid ship also has pityful cap and it's an ordeal to keep guns+scrambler running for too long with no cap relay)
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Hydrian Alante
The Loot Company
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Posted - 2006.08.15 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: ElCoCo 2 nanofibers and a damage control don't go well together.
Fit a local hull overdrive and an local hull inertia stabilizer if you want to go that way... A bit less speed/agility but 300 more hardened hull to eat through.
(Although this stupid ship also has pityful cap and it's an ordeal to keep guns+scrambler running for too long with no cap relay)
You are absolutly right!
I will try the overdrive + inertia combination!
Thos inertia mods will get a boost anyway with the next balance update.
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ElCoCo
Gallente KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.15 16:04:00 -
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AB?  |

Scorpyon
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.08.15 16:26:00 -
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Quite possibley the worse ship in the game. At least it's cheap as ****.
Scorp
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Christopher Dalran
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Posted - 2006.08.15 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpyon Quite possibley the worse ship in the game. At least it's cheap as ****.
Scorp
So its worse than an atron or an imicus?
Avoid using a MWD on an inty, the sig baloon will usually get you killed if your trying to close range on a larger ship by flying directly at it (zero transversal)
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Bazman
Caldari The Establishment
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Posted - 2006.08.15 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Christopher Dalran
Originally by: Scorpyon Quite possibley the worse ship in the game. At least it's cheap as ****.
Scorp
So its worse than an atron or an imicus?
Avoid using a MWD on an inty, the sig baloon will usually get you killed if your trying to close range on a larger ship by flying directly at it (zero transversal)
What kind of advice is that, Inties live by the MWD
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Audrea
Widowmakers Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2006.08.15 17:57:00 -
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We had a discussion about the usefulness of the Ares couple months ago or something.. to sum it up again in two words: Cheap shuttle 
Thats all it is. Useful to move faction/officer loot from 0.0, or rare minerals in case cov ops unavilable.
It can even evade a very well setup gate camps 
But its true crap for pvp applications. ------------------ Tired of fleet combat lag? -Post HERE
All posts are my personal opinions.  |

Foulis
Minmatar Chosen Path
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Posted - 2006.08.15 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Audrea We had a discussion about the usefulness of the Ares couple months ago or something.. to sum it up again in two words: Cheap shuttle 
Thats all it is. Useful to move faction/officer loot from 0.0, or rare minerals in case cov ops unavilable.
It can even evade a very well setup gate camps 
But its true crap for pvp applications.
qft, buy a taranis. ----
Cake > Pie - Imaran Cathath > Imaran - Cathath
Originally by: CCP Hammer Boobies
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Avernus
Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.15 18:24:00 -
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Just because an Ares will get it's ass handed to it by most other interceptors, by no means write this ship off completely. Realise that this ship is weak in some areas, but it's still a great tackler, especially when you factor in the price. I can purchase and fit 3 Ares for the price of 1 taranis... that's damn good value.
Btw, 98 kills, and 5 losses with the Ares. Know your ships strengths and weaknesses.
For setups, go close range all the way. It's a cheap ship, so get the most out of it.
Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback. |

Audrea
Widowmakers Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2006.08.15 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Avernus Just because an Ares will get it's ass handed to it by most other interceptors, by no means write this ship off completely. Realise that this ship is weak in some areas, but it's still a great tackler, especially when you factor in the price. I can purchase and fit 3 Ares for the price of 1 taranis... that's damn good value.
Btw, 98 kills, and 5 losses with the Ares. Know your ships strengths and weaknesses.
For setups, go close range all the way. It's a cheap ship, so get the most out of it.
Would you care to share its 'strengthes' with us? It only got 2 med slots, so how can it be tackler? it can either hold web+scram, or mwd+(web/scram).
I dont think any ceptor with only 2 med slots is of any use in the role all ceptors fill... ------------------ Tired of fleet combat lag? -Post HERE
All posts are my personal opinions.  |

Samirol
Ore Mongers Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.15 19:04:00 -
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Edited by: Samirol on 15/08/2006 19:04:36 double post ftl
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Samirol
Ore Mongers Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.15 19:04:00 -
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highs - empty mids-1mn mwd II and cap recharger II lows- 4x local hull nanofibers
tech 2 shuttle
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Avernus
Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.15 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Audrea
Originally by: Avernus Just because an Ares will get it's ass handed to it by most other interceptors, by no means write this ship off completely. Realise that this ship is weak in some areas, but it's still a great tackler, especially when you factor in the price. I can purchase and fit 3 Ares for the price of 1 taranis... that's damn good value.
Btw, 98 kills, and 5 losses with the Ares. Know your ships strengths and weaknesses.
For setups, go close range all the way. It's a cheap ship, so get the most out of it.
Would you care to share its 'strengthes' with us? It only got 2 med slots, so how can it be tackler? it can either hold web+scram, or mwd+(web/scram).
I dont think any ceptor with only 2 med slots is of any use in the role all ceptors fill...
You assume all ships should be solo pwnmoblies? Ofc not; you are very limited on your mids, and an mwd is absolutely essential, normally, I would fit a 7500m scrambler for my second slot. In short, use teamwork and let someone else do the webbing.
For an example of how I like to fly it: 2 neutron II's, null s ammo. 2 rocket launchers (can't use T2 ones yet, not a priority)
1 mwd II 1 7500m scrambler (uses a great deal less cap to maintain)
1 damage control 1 mapc 1 cap relay 1 adaptive nano II
What you should note, is I don't use an armor rep. It gimps my setup. You asked for a strength, that is where the damage control comes in. The Ares has lots of structure, around 700 something with my skills if I remember right. Combine that with the minimalist armor tank with the nano and damage control, and opponents find they have quite a bit to shoot through to get to the chewy centre. 
I depend on others to repair my ship after a fight, it's a part of the teamwork we use. If I lose the ship, then I've saved my buddies some time repairing me. The obvious weakness is that most interceptors are still going to take a chunk out of you in an Ares, no matter how you setup. After that, it comes down to fighting smart and using good tactics. Use my setup if you like... but if you don't know how to fly it, you're screwed anyway.
Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback. |

KittyPilot
Gallente Black-Lotus
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Posted - 2006.08.15 19:40:00 -
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I agree completely with Avernus. My Ares makes a great 'team-player'. I can fit it to complement the other ships, and they can cover me. Since I fly a lot with Caldari, someone almost ALWAYS has a Leadership/shield bonus for me, which just helps even more. I'm about to get Rocket Launcher IIs, which I hope will go nicely with my blasters for close-in work. can I play with the cute mouse...can I? |

Avernus
Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.15 19:53:00 -
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Quote: I dont think any ceptor with only 2 med slots is of any use in the role all ceptors fill...
Just to expand on this one point. For the range of ships out there that you tackle, there are in fact very few that actually require you to hit with a web in order to stop them from getting to a gate for example. A T1 frig will be dead before it can hit the gate if he comes in at 15km, or hits a bubble... the only ships that really require a web are other interceptors, and some HACs that can tank the damage they take until they hit the gate. 90% of your targets only need more points of scramble on them to hold down the warp core stabbers.
Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback. |

Good Sir
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Posted - 2006.08.15 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Avernus
Quote: I dont think any ceptor with only 2 med slots is of any use in the role all ceptors fill...
Just to expand on this one point. For the range of ships out there that you tackle, there are in fact very few that actually require you to hit with a web in order to stop them from getting to a gate for example. A T1 frig will be dead before it can hit the gate if he comes in at 15km, or hits a bubble... the only ships that really require a web are other interceptors, and some HACs that can tank the damage they take until they hit the gate. 90% of your targets only need more points of scramble on them to hold down the warp core stabbers.
I agree with you totally. I have an exellent Ares tackling setup. Works well for groups, and the two mids are fine. Its a ranged setup, so web would be useless anyway. Imo, the ares does its job very well. just need to set it up right, and fly it in a group.
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Darknar
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Posted - 2006.08.15 20:59:00 -
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Cheers Hydrian, ElCoCo, and Avernus, for the good advice. @ the moment I can afford a taranis, but to be quite honest I want to live by the Ares , defend its name and all that. This advice might help me get the most out of quite possibly the cheapest T2 frig in the game. 
and everybody knows that red is faster
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Avernus
Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.15 21:16:00 -
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PS. Ares is also a great bait ship to pull in all the suckers that think it's an easy kill. 
Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback. |

Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.15 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 15/08/2006 21:53:33
Ares + Faction Scrambler = win. Its fast, Immume to heavy nosf due to the +22 km scrambler and thus a great tackler to get unstabbed battleships with.
Extremly useful in those situations where youre chasing someone and you need to hold him down untill backup gets there. My Taranis would get nosfed and die. -----
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OldPueblo
Gallente Defenders of Order
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Posted - 2006.08.16 03:23:00 -
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I had an ares, and when I lost it I just replaced it with an Atron with MWD and scrambler. Didn't really notice a difference. :p Just my two cents.
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BlueOrca
Gallente Delta team
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Posted - 2006.08.16 07:08:00 -
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75mm T2 with Spike and Standard T2 with precision Flamebusts can give you good DPS.
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