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PotatoOverdose
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Posted - 2014.10.16 21:48:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Ilaister wrote:
Phoebe will make rental empires defunct though no?
It very well may. Wishfull thinking that ignores the past.
Ehhh, idk. Pandemic Legion already ceded a region or three of their rental empire in preperation for Phoebe, so.... |
PotatoOverdose
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Posted - 2014.10.17 00:07:00 -
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Mr Omniblivion wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Wishfull thinking that ignores the past. The past: Quote:Expected consequences
Some alliances will immediately start wanting to look for better space
In the longer run, there'll be more conflicts going on, with more localized goals
Newer alliances will have an easier time getting a foothold in nullsec
Coalitions will be marginally less stable
Alliances will have to choose more carefully what space they develop, where their staging systems are, and so on (low truesec systems generally tend to be in strategically inconvenient places)
That was 3 and a half years ago. How many times do we (as a game community) have to experience history repeat itself till we realize that a certain way of thinking does not work? This is really funny, because it's the same [adjective] guy making similar changes for the same reasons. In reality, Nullsec coalitions change their space a little bit (Like PL putting their space under some alternative management...but it's still their renter space), and logistics and movement gets harder for everyone. Now, the coalitions will be even LESS inclined to fight each other, because they would need to move their assets so far from their home that it leaves them open to attack.
Could you enlighten me as to the organizational relationship between xxDeath and PL? Am legit curious. |
PotatoOverdose
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Posted - 2014.10.17 14:53:00 -
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Mr Omniblivion wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:
Could you enlighten me as to the organizational relationship between xxDeath and PL? Am legit curious.
https://eveskunk.com/e/343706457Edit: So the blue doughnut is only getting bigger because of the logistical changes and maintaining rental territory. :CCP:'ed yet again.
Looks to me like they're ceding renter space to another group in exchange for security/stability. Sure it isn't ideal, but where before you had 1 rental empire, now you have 2. And this is before the implementation of any changes in phoebe. |
PotatoOverdose
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Posted - 2014.10.17 18:15:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:
Just like now...Just like once neutral PL and XXDeath being not neutral... How many people who were soooo tired of shooting POSes would love to have pre-Dominion SOV back. I wonder if any of them can remember how happy they were that they didn't have to grind POSes any more??? lol
Hmmm...maybe I missed it, but what changes are you in favor of implementing? |
PotatoOverdose
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Posted - 2014.10.18 04:22:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:
Just like now...Just like once neutral PL and XXDeath being not neutral... How many people who were soooo tired of shooting POSes would love to have pre-Dominion SOV back. I wonder if any of them can remember how happy they were that they didn't have to grind POSes any more??? lol
Hmmm...maybe I missed it, but what changes are you in favor of implementing? Changes that don't backfire and make a bad situation worse. To do that you have to look at the underlying realities of WHY a situation exists and also keep in mind that we are talking about a game (meaning you must take human nature into account). Wishful thinking and good intentions don't work.
k...do you have any specific, detailed counter-proposals? It's very easy to say "this idea is ****." Doing so is also completely useless. Vague statements like "account for human nature" are scarcely less useless. Do you have any plan that involves specific buffs (preferably with numerics) e.g. add mexallon ore to nullsec grav sites, nerf/buff null income by x%, implement mechanic X instead of mechanic Y. You know, actual changes? |
PotatoOverdose
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Posted - 2014.10.18 05:28:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:
Just like now...Just like once neutral PL and XXDeath being not neutral... How many people who were soooo tired of shooting POSes would love to have pre-Dominion SOV back. I wonder if any of them can remember how happy they were that they didn't have to grind POSes any more??? lol
Hmmm...maybe I missed it, but what changes are you in favor of implementing? Changes that don't backfire and make a bad situation worse. To do that you have to look at the underlying realities of WHY a situation exists and also keep in mind that we are talking about a game (meaning you must take human nature into account). Wishful thinking and good intentions don't work. k...do you have any specific, detailed counter-proposals? It's very easy to say "this idea is ****." Doing so is also completely useless. Vague statements like "account for human nature" are scarcely less useless. Do you have any plan that involves specific buffs (preferably with numerics) e.g. add mexallon ore to nullsec grav sites, nerf/buff null income by x%, implement mechanic X instead of mechanic Y. You know, actual changes? I'm not a game designer. Being silent when you see a bad way of thinking being repeated for the umpteenth time because one doesn't have godlike powers to decern a better way is dumb. The difference between me and you is that I KNOW I don't know how to fix 'the problem', and would rather accept that than just go "well DO something, anything" which is the thing that is actually useless. CCP is committed to what they are doing, none of this talk is gonna change anything (you see it din't stop Dominion or the Anom nerf) . Feel free to ignore my (and others) warning, CCP does lol. But remember that you did so in 6 months after we've had time to see the results of the thing you are (wishfully and without thought) supporting.
Your warning is worse than useless without an alternative. So far, we have 2 choices: CCP's sov revamp or the status quo. If both are ****, present an alternative. |
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